Real Housewives in the Media

[SuprSuprElevated]

5 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

reality TV was created in part because it was unscripted and therefore cheap to produce. Yet here we are today with heavily, unofficially scripted scenarios that are crass, ham-handed, and, at one point, paying large salaries to some of the "stars."

Exactly.  Whether or not the salaries have been reduced and can be labeled as "large"  depends on one's perspective I guess.  I contend they're all overpaid.  Paid too much to fabricate drama and drink to excess.  Where was Bravo when I was in my 20's, hmmm?

[WhatAmIWatching]

19 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I contend they're all overpaid.  Paid too much to fabricate drama and drink to excess.  Where was Bravo when I was in my 20's, hmmm?

This is why I've been enjoying the Million Dollar Listing NY show. Light on the drama, big on the house porn, and a lot of shots of NY. (I haven't watch the LA version as yet, but I grew up there, so it's familiar to me where NY isn't.)

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Folks,

We're losing the media aspect of the discussion.  Small Talk is the place to go when the topic shifts away from the show. 

[Hiyo]

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NeNe tried to pull Kim Zolciak's wig one time.... Or maybe that was Sheree. One of them pulled on Kim's wig. But just a little.  It was dumb.

It was Sheree, on the sidewalk, before Kim started making out with Lindsay Lohan's dad.

 

[Jextella]

1 hour ago, Hiyo said:

It was Sheree, on the sidewalk, before Kim started making out with Lindsay Lohan's dad.

 

Aaah. good times.

[amarante]

On 6/28/2021 at 2:55 PM, 65mickey said:

From what I read the current season has the lowest ratings ever. If Bravo thought that Leah and Eboni were going to save this franchise they better think again. Neither are likable and neither bring anything to the show but fighting and discord. God help me for saying this but maybe bring back Dorinda and Bethenny. Just pony up the big bucks and have Dorinda sign a contract that says she must undergo anger management or shut down this franchise. I will no longer tune in just to watch the  Leah and Eboni show. both are just too unpleasant.

I don’t know if having them on my DVR and not watching is counted. 🤷‍♀️
 

NY used to be my favorite franchise. Leah was awful last year but in combination with  Eboni, the franchise has become unwatchable and I have a backlog since I haven’t watched since Leah  was caterwauling about her dead grandmother and all I could think was what an awful person she was to attempt to get sympathy while not doing what most people would do which was to get home amd support the family 

I think what is truly putrid is that Leah uses Eboni to try to establish her "hip" credentials when she is actually just an awful person who represents no one except crazy alcoholic bullies. I just can't stand her smug expressions of her hipness. Eboni is a bore frankly and should take some lessons from Garcelle on the BH franchise who is a strong black woman who actually is interested in a dialogue - her lunch with Kyle and explaining why the accusation of not making the charitable donation was especially damaging to a WOC was a stellar example of educating a person so they come to a real understanding and are not put on the defensive by accusations.

Edited July 11, 2021 by amarante

[MsMalin]

I just can't believe how much the show and the ladies have changed.  I am slowly working my way thru all of the seasons. I am on Season 4 now.  I would say the biggest one to change is Sonja. She had class, sounded somewhat intelligent and was very nice. Now she is just a bitter, jealous woman with an alcohol problem.

Ramona was so very pretty back then. She still looks very good for her age but I forgot how young and fresh she used to look.  Her personality has not changed all that much, maybe is more exaggerated. I feel worry that Mario cheated on her because it seemed like she really loved him.

[Stats Queen]

On 7/10/2021 at 2:28 PM, Hiyo said:

It was Sheree, on the sidewalk, before Kim started making out with Lindsay Lohan's dad.

 

There are several instances about one real housewife pulling another housewife’s hair. 
The lesson, if you are on a real housewives show, have very short hair.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Folks,

Again, this is the media topic.  Can we please get back to discussing media?  Housewives each have their own threads in which you can discuss their actions and/or how they have changed. 

[Gracie123]

They are blaming this flaming pile of shit on Ramona???

https://realityblurb.com/2021/07/12/report-ramona-singer-to-be-fired-from-rhony-amid-ratings-drop-and-racial-tensions-plus-how-ramona-feels-about-alleged-axing/

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

16 minutes ago, Gracie123 said:

They are blaming this flaming pile of shit on Ramona???

https://realityblurb.com/2021/07/12/report-ramona-singer-to-be-fired-from-rhony-amid-ratings-drop-and-racial-tensions-plus-how-ramona-feels-about-alleged-axing/

 

Oh, my gosh. I’m not one of her fans, but even I think this is incredibly unfair.

[Feech]

So Eboni and Leah destroy this show and they want to fire Ramona?

They have fired most of the original gangsters like Nene, Vicki and LVP so there is precedent.

The only way that this works is if they fire Leah and especially Eboni because they are the cause of the destruction of the ratings on this show.

[CSunshine76]

I really hope the rumors of Moaner being fired are false. If she’s out, so am I. Ramona is NOT the problem with this season! I can’t quit that woman and her crazy ways! 

[Boo Boo]

I wonder if Ramona says something worse than Eboni never suffering.

Or is she being Machiavellian and is the source of the leak in hopes that fan backlash will save her job.

I think her days were numbered anyway -- she's aging out of the franchise sadly.

Edited July 12, 2021 by Boo Boo

[Feech]

Ramona isn’t that smart.

This has the woke finger prints of Andy Cohen all over it.

They have to realize that if they dump Ramona and keep Eboni that this show is over.

[ichbin]

2 hours ago, Feech said:

 

So Eboni and Leah destroy this show and they want to fire Ramona?

 

 

If anyone is fired it should be the person(s) responsible for casting Leah and Eboni in order to force the show into a direction which ratings show is obviously a downward trajectory.  

[chlban]

1 hour ago, Feech said:

Ramona isn’t that smart.

This has the woke finger prints of Andy Cohen all over it.

They have to realize that if they dump Ramona and keep Eboni that this show is over.

Damn you show for making me defend Ramona. She is not the problem.  I actually think she has grown a bit as a person and is a much better friend than Sonja. The real problems with this show are Eboni and Leah. Dump then, bring Dorinda back and hire a couple of new ladies. I think Dorinda will be on her best behavior now. 

[SweetieDarling]

If it weren't for Ramona and Lu, I'd have already stopped watching. If they get rid of Ramona and keep Eboni and Leah, I'm out. 

[Chatty Cake]

I hope this isn’t true about Ramon. IMO Leah threw gasoline all over the show and Eboni lit the match. 

[Baltimore Betty]

I would love to see Dorinda and Jill back on the show if they got rid of Leah and Eboni. 

[Showthyme]

#saveramona.

 

[Persnickety1]

So reading between the lines of that article, Bravo will be bringing back Eboni and Leah next season to move in the direction they want the show to go and that direction doesn't include Ramona.  

I'm not (and never have been) a Ramona fan, but if Leah and Eboni are returning, this franchise will be off my list.  

Whoever said Leah and Eboni were on a mission to get Ramona off the show, kadooz to you.  You were indeed correct and they succeeded.  

Ugh.  No more NYC for me.  And if the other franchises go in such a direction, it will be no more Housewives for me period.  

(I'm holding out a bit of hope this article is incorrect.  I thought Bravo made it a policy not to make any casting decisions until after the reunion had been taped and aired but who knows.  I guess time will tell.)

[Avaleigh]

12 hours ago, chlban said:

Damn you show for making me defend Ramona. She is not the problem.  I actually think she has grown a bit as a person and is a much better friend than Sonja. The real problems with this show are Eboni and Leah. Dump then, bring Dorinda back and hire a couple of new ladies. I think Dorinda will be on her best behavior now. 

I want them to dump Eboni and Leah but I really, really don't want Dorinda to come back. I still haven't got the impression that she thinks she did anything wrong last season. I don't want her being rewarded with an apple after the way she treated the cast the past couple of seasons especially when I consider how she treated Tinsley.

I'll be shocked if they let Ramona go especially if it has anything to do with her not getting along with Eboni. I don't for a second believe that Ramona is the reason for the decline in ratings. 

I'm curious if the response to Eboni via social media has been primarily positive. I've seen both supportive and negative tweets but don't have a sense of how the majority feels. There are a lot of people who seem to like Leah for whatever reason. 

I wonder if this is more ageism at play than anything else?

2 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

(I'm holding out a bit of hope this article is incorrect.  I thought Bravo made it a policy not to make any casting decisions until after the reunion had been taped and aired but who knows.  I guess time will tell.)

I'm still on the fence about whether or not it's true too. The main things that make me think it could be true are the claims about her high salary. I can totally see them wanting to cut her over that in addition to her being the oldest.

I think they mistakenly feel that Leah and Eboni will be able to bring in younger viewers. I'd prefer for the show to fire Leah and Eboni and bring back Tinsley and maybe two new others.

[chlban]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I would love to see Dorinda and Jill back on the show if they got rid of Leah and Eboni. 

Works for me.

[chlban]

13 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

I want them to dump Eboni and Leah but I really, really don't want Dorinda to come back. I still haven't got the impression that she thinks she did anything wrong last season. I don't want her being rewarded with an apple after the way she treated the cast the past couple of seasons especially when I consider how she treated Tinsley.

I'll be shocked if they let Ramona go especially if it has anything to do with her not getting along with Eboni. I don't for a second believe that Ramona is the reason for the decline in ratings. 

I'm curious if the response to Eboni via social media has been primarily positive. I've seen both supportive and negative tweets but don't have a sense of how the majority feels. There are a lot of people who seem to like Leah for whatever reason. 

I wonder if this is more ageism at play than anything else?

I'm still on the fence about whether or not it's true too. The main things that make me think it could be true are the claims about her high salary. I can totally see them wanting to cut her over that in addition to her being the oldest.

I think they mistakenly feel that Leah and Eboni will be able to bring in younger viewers. I'd prefer for the show to fire Leah and Eboni and bring back Tinsley and maybe two new others.

I was never a big fan of Tinsley, but she was fine  Anyone would be an improvement over Leah.  Eboni just needs to stop making everything about race, stop preaching and let us see if we like her, the person, not the teacher but, at this point, it might be best To be rid of her.

[thefog]

The solution is a no brainer.  Get rid of Leah and Eboni.  They are the reasons why the ratings are the worse in 13 seasons. 

These 2 are unwatchable.  RHONY won't survive if the show is built around them.

Edited July 13, 2021 by escape

[Feech]

It is clear that Eboni came on the show with an agenda. It was not to “educate” but rather to destroy it. She has stated that “these white woman” were allowed to have a show and she was here to change that.

When Ramona walked away she acted as a surrogate for the viewer. When confronted with non stop politicization and racialist racketeering she changed the channel.

Ramona is a chucklehead but she is our  chucklehead. She gave us years of unforgettable moments from her eye bulging catwalk to her spastic turtle time dance. Eboni and her pal Leah only give us a headache.

This franchise is in its death throes and it is because of the evil and pernicious Eboni and Leah.

[Jextella]

17 hours ago, ichbin said:

If anyone is fired it should be the person(s) responsible for casting Leah and Eboni in order to force the show into a direction which ratings show is obviously a downward trajectory.  

I like Eboni on the show.

I liked Leah for the most part last year so it saddens me to say this, but sober Leah is a complete downer.

Edited July 13, 2021 by Jextella

[Marley]

If they want to fire Ramona cause her huge salary whatever but if it’s because they think Eboni and Leah are the future of the show then I’m deleting this shit off my PVR.

They should bring Dorinda and Jill back. Jill has stuff going on I’m sure. Husband died and she has a new man. I would even be open to Carol coming back if it means Eboni and Leah are fired. I would like Lu to stay and like I said before who cares about fake delusional alcoholic Sonja. The show is obsessed with Sonja tho so I don’t see her going anywhere.

Just hope the rumours are untrue.

[Cosmocrush]

19 hours ago, Boo Boo said:

I think her days were numbered anyway -- she's aging out of the franchise sadly.

 

But as Wendy (Williams) said this morning, Ramona is young!  Not so much in numbers but in energy/behavior. 

I just heard about this and I'm bummed.  I've watching RHONY since day one, it's always been my favorite but I'm out with Ramona. 

Sadly, I think in my fifties I'm aging out of the Bravo preferred demo  so it's not really going to matter if I quit. 

Edited July 13, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[Cosmocrush]

On the other hand, this makes sense to me so maybe I'm just being sentimental: 

A bunch of older white women behaving badly was fun a decade ago but not today. The world has changed and if the show wants to survive another decade it must change too and that starts with the cast.”

https://realityblurb.com/2021/07/12/report-ramona-singer-to-be-fired-from-rhony-amid-ratings-drop-and-racial-tensions-plus-how-ramona-feels-about-alleged-axing/

Yet, I'm not really enjoying a younger white woman acting worse than almost any other housewife ever.  So what exactly is it Bravo?  The money?   Ramona's age?  

Edited July 13, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[Avaleigh]

Is it possible that this story was deliberately "leaked" in an effort to take the temperature of what the viewers want to see next season?

[Cosmocrush]

11 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

Is it possible that this story was deliberately "leaked" in an effort to take the temperature of what the viewers want to see next season?

I hope so but my usual gossip source is Wendy Williams and it's been my experience she seldom gets it wrong. 

[ichbin]

1 hour ago, Cosmocrush said:

So what exactly is it Bravo?  The money?   Ramona's age?  

Ding! Ding! Ding! ... I think we've got a winner!

[izabella]

Ramona has brought very little of herself to the show for years.  She's always coming to dinners and then leaving a short time later for "dates" or whatever.  And that's it.  So if her salary is the largest of them all, I can see them wanting to fire her and bring on someone for less money who is more willing and able to bring something to the show.  They could probably bring on two people for the price of her salary.  They would do well to get rid of Sonja too.  She also brings nothing but laments of Morgan days gone by and screeching drunken insanity a la Dorinda.

 

Edited July 13, 2021 by izabella

[Feech]

It is understandable if they get rid of Ramona if they get rid of the evil Eboni and the loathsome Leah. If they don’t then it appears that they are attributing the precipitous drop in the ratings to Ramona instead of the dastardly duo.

They can just keep Luann, bring back a couple of alumni and get some new blood. That might be the only chance they have of righting the ship.

[Persnickety1]

Gawd almighty, fucking Andy Cohen just posted that Eboni is on WWHL tonight and requesting questions for her (and Isaac Mizrahi).  

I didn't offer up a question but I did congratulate him on destroying his own franchise.  

Fucking asshole.  

[Hiyo]

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evil Eboni

I think evil is a bit much...

[thefog]

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EXCLUSIVE: Real Housewives of New York 'cast shakeup' is on the horizon but insider insists 'Ramona Singer isn't going anywhere' following claims she's being axed

'One Housewife in particular has it out for Ramona and she wants her off the show. This Housewife is leaking to news organizations that Ramona is fired in an attempt to push the network to get rid of her,' they continued.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9784837/RHONY-insider-says-cast-shakeup-way-Ramona-Singer-aint-going-anywhere.html

I am willing to bet it's Leah.  She's been desperate to get her boring sister an apple.  And she's complained how viewers have turned on her.

The article also says that there is 1 cast member whom producers sees as problematic.  They said it's not Ramona. 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by escape

[emmawoodhouse]

Turned on her? How can you turn on someone who was so vile from day one? 

Edited July 13, 2021 by emmawoodhouse
Oopsie typo!

[Avaleigh]

10 minutes ago, escape said:

I am willing to bet it's Leah.  She's been desperate to get her boring sister an apple.  And she's complained how viewers have turned on her.

I can't decide if it's Leah or Eboni. It could be both, I suppose. Leah is definitely thirsty to get her sister on and Eboni has probably already rec'd one of her own friends to the producers. Eboni has made it clear that she wants to bring this show in a totally different direction and she might see Ramona as standing in her way. 

Even Sonja has crossed my mind as a dark horse candidate since she and Ramona don't seem as close as they used to be. Although I can't really see Sonja (or Luann) wanting to suddenly be the oldest cast member given how it seems the showrunners have been hiring younger cast members lately. They probably think Ramona will (temporarily) keep them off the chopping block.

[Persnickety1]

36 minutes ago, escape said:

I am willing to bet it's Leah.  She's been desperate to get her boring sister an apple.  And she's complained how viewers have turned on her.

I can 1000% absolutely see Leah planting this shit, hoping to get Ramona off the show.  

I wouldn't put anything past thirsty Leah.  

[Jextella]

Last I heard, Leah, Eboni and Ramona were getting along really well. THey were even going out together - or at least that's what Andy said when Leah was on WWH recently.

Who knows, but my money is on Bravo being the source of these rumors.

It's like clockwork. There are reports like these all the time midseason. Unfortunately for Ramona, sometimes they are true. Rumors swirled about all the recently axed OC women, i.e. Vicki/Tamra, Kelly, & Braunwyn.

I think Bravo puts reports out like these to test the waters or to prepare fans for the falling ax. 

Edited July 13, 2021 by Jextella

[Cosmocrush]

 

1 hour ago, escape said:

'One Housewife in particular has it out for Ramona and she wants her off the show. This Housewife is leaking to news organizations that Ramona is fired in an attempt to push the network to get rid of her,' they continued.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9784837/RHONY-insider-says-cast-shakeup-way-Ramona-Singer-aint-going-anywhere.html

Well you don't have to be an insider to know that Leah has been gunning for Ramona from the start, but certainly this season it's been very apparent.   I mean, she walked around Ramona's house calling her a bitch to everyone she saw. 

[JonnieUniteUs]

12 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I would love to see Dorinda and Jill back on the show if they got rid of Leah and Eboni. 

Dorinda was so fun until her constant strange attacks on Tinsley.  Bring her back please; sober or not.  If she goes on more bizarre constant attacks then CLIP !
 

i was never a fan of Jill but if she could replace BuzzKillEboni, so be it.  
 

Leah is polarizing but doesn’t come across as annoying as Eboni imo.  Even Leah has expressed she wished BuzzKill could have fun instead of constantly being in teaching mode.  How about a little teaching and more fun?  I couldn’t stand watching Carole because of all the seemingly superior political posturing either.  I was very glad when she was “clipped.”

 

Bring back Dorinda and clip Leah (maybe) and Eboni (definitely).

 

CLIP!  CLIP!
 

 

Edited July 13, 2021 by JonnieUniteUs
Correcting an auto correct

[JonnieUniteUs]

8 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

 

Well you don't have to be an insider to know that Leah has been gunning for Ramona from the start, but certainly this season it's been very apparent.   I mean, she walked around Ramona's house calling her a bitch to everyone she saw. 

Ok wait if Leah was instrumental in getting Moaner fired then Leah definitely needs to be gone.

CLIP!😡

[Shannah Banana]

If Ramona is out, I'm out.

That is all.

 

[Chit Chat]

2 minutes ago, Shannah Banana said:

If Ramona is out, I'm out.

I'm already done with the show.  I quit watching it a few episodes in.  Andy talks about an overhaul with the show, but it was reported that this season's ratings are already sinking.  I think that the HWs shows have run their course.  It might be time he just let the entire franchise die a quick and painless death.   ;) 

[Shannah Banana]

2 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I'm already done with the show.  I quit watching it a few episodes in.  Andy talks about an overhaul with the show, but it was reported that this season's ratings are already sinking.  I think that the HWs shows have run their course.  It might be time he just let the entire franchise die a quick and painless death.   ;) 

There was a time I could not wait until it was time for NY, now I have it on, but it's in the background while I fold clothes or do dishes or something.  I read that the ratings are worse than they have ever been although I don't care enough to try and fact check.  Regardless, it's not coincidence that the ratings tank with the advent of Leah and Eboni, especially Eboni.  She is a total drag.  Leah is too though.

[ichbin]

33 minutes ago, Jextella said:

Who knows, but my money is on Bravo being the source of these rumors.

Occurred to me too.  Not only to test the waters but also possibly put the fear in Ramona to prepare for contract negotiations offering a lower salary.  Also not ruling out a play for better ratings. I always thought that advertising fees are based upon those numbers. I definitely think there is a reason for something like this to "leak".  It's not unusual. Just recently I remember hearing that some of the Jersey cast was axed but that apparently was false. Regardless of politics or leanings, the one thing I do believe is that Bravo is going to make decisions primarily based on $$.