Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[Harmony233]

Ciaria doesn't really get many scenes with her family but honestly neither does Sarah I don't think I've seen her have one conversation with any of the hortons 

I mean I can't stand abby but why not build a friendship up between the two.

[Harmony233]

1 hour ago, Rafael said:

Lord help us !!! oh dear- first we were supposed to have sympathy for the serial killer , psycho gabby and now freagin Kristen , a woman who once raped a priest and carved a baby outta the womb of another woman . 

kinda like TIIC expecting us to buy Nicole as a heroine when she committed atrocious crimes such as sabotaging Chloe's facial reconstruction surgery . 

I don't see Nicole as a heroine although she got called out more for Sarah's paternity lie more than Sarah did but she was urging Eric to lie about the baby switch.I mean I think Nicole has shown some growth but I don't think she's a heroine she will still do underhanded things when it comes down to it.

[DaphneCat]

3 hours ago, Harmony233 said:

Ciaria doesn't really get many scenes with her family but honestly neither does Sarah I don't think I've seen her have one conversation with any of the hortons 

I mean I can't stand abby but why not build a friendship up between the two.

Because this show stopped writing actual friendships years ago.  The only plots they can write are people having sex (I wouldn't say love because most of the time, there is no actual human interaction) someone almost dying, and the revolving door of CEO of various businesses.  Ciara should have been an integral part of discovering what was wrong with Hope.  Instead, she went for over a YEAR without even noticing.

[Lastwaltz]

They cheated us out of Patch and Kayla scenes?? They suck. No wonder that whole sequence lacked the emotional punch it should have had. 

[BuckeyeLou]

Oh Wow; today's show is Intense!  I was crying along with Steve & Kayla as his memory came back & we did see brief snippets of their Wedding(oh my, how I loved those Patch/Kayla wedding scenes on the boat!). And then Linsey Godfrey knocked it out of the park with her suppressed anger!  Justin kept asking her if she was OK, and Xander looked concerned & worried.  Sarah telling Xander their relationship started with a Lie...she is getting more agitated.  Crazy Kristen is hanging onto the Baby & wont turn it over until "Magic Doctor" Marlena convinces her to hand Baby over.   Sarah (and Xander) world is going to come apart!

[howmanywords]

I've has this gem of a video in my YouTube favorites for years and I think its appropriate to share today. Steve and Kayla flashbacks set to their original song. Try not to cry watching this! These are the flashbacks we deserved today. Crappy ass cheap DAYS and their shit budget 😫

[islandgal140]

1 hour ago, BuckeyeLou said:

And then Linsey Godfrey knocked it out of the park with her suppressed anger! 

Agreed! Opinions seem to be split on her, but I generally like the character of Sarah, but I can agree that sometimes the actresses acting choices are not the best. Even I was annoyed last week when she was acting really immaturely the day of her wedding. She did a great job today. As did Paul Telfer, who I usually find lacking in scenes that need emotional resonance. 

Days really spared every expense with that wedding. They couldn't even bother to have a guests or 3 or  even the required adult witnesses. How does a 1yr infant qualify as witness to a wedding? And that basic ass dress was the gown Sarah needed Nicole to use her special fashion industry connects to track down? Apparently, I have special fashion connects too as I know someone who works at JC Penney's.  

1 hour ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Crazy Kristen is hanging onto the Baby & wont turn it over until "Magic Doctor"

Thankfully, Gov. Cuomo's daily Covid briefings spared me from Kristen's gollumesque "my precious" impression with that poor baby. 

[Harmony233]

I tend to dislike Sarah but I thought she was the most interesting today.

I also really liked the Brady and Eric scenes.

 

[Sandman]

On 4/12/2020 at 9:54 AM, Lastwaltz said:

My heart broke for Sarah and the world of pain she's about to enter.

I thought Godfrey was quite effective in those scenes, but the pacing of this show feels off. No way would anyone take as long to tell Eric as Nicole did last week -- not with the kind of news she was carrying. It was draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn out beyond all reason. The same thing happened with Sarah's wedding rant. "Why is this taking so long?" was all I was thinking as scene after scene after scene unrolled before Sarah actually got to the bloody point! Were we supposed to think she was going a little mad? If so, it didn't fully work.

Imagine Brady being semi-adult and not blaming Eric and Nicole!

I'll admit, Kayla and Steve (hi, Steve!) made it very dusty in my apartment.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Sandman

[Lisa418722]

When Kayla was reminiscing about their wedding I had a flashback remembering that Justin sang "Hopeless Romantic" at that wedding.  I am a Kayla / Steve fan and I am waiting for them to get back together, but part of me feels like Steve just assumed Kayla was just waiting around for him to return.  She's always waited for him and I'm glad she moved on, even though we know they will end up together.  This is one triangle where no one is "bad." 

[Sandman]

2 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

They couldn't even bother to have a guests or 3 or  even the required adult witnesses. How does a 1yr infant qualify as witness to a wedding?

That was so weird. The showrunners do know that if Xander and Sarah did get married, it wouldn't be legal, right? Oh, what am I saying? Like anyone behind the scenes cares about silly details like the law!

[kitmerlot1213]

I loved Brady's reaction to finding out that Mickey is actually his daughter--he was overjoyed that his little girl is alive but also devastated that his brother's child was dead and I loved his moment of realizing the hell that Sarah and Eric are about to go through--truly well done by all of the actors.

I also loved Marlena and John's compassion towards Kristen and I appreciated Kristen's realization that she needed a professional to talk to about her grief.  I think SH is very good in her moments of quiet pain.

Lastly, I loved how LG played Sarah's suppressed rage and I especially loved Justin's asking if she was alright and reminding her that she doesn't have to go through with the wedding.  And good for Sarah for realizing that her and Xander's whole relationship was based on lying about Mickey and just how far they will go to protect the little baby.

And in the middle of all of this angst we had the gorgeous Steve/Kayla wedding flashbacks and Steve's remembering how much he loves Kayla--DAMN!!

Truly outstanding acting by all of the actors involved

[Irlandesa]

13 minutes ago, Lisa418722 said:

This is one triangle where no one is "bad." 

For now. In 2 months, they'' turn Justin into a stalker. (don't worry--not a spoiler...yet).

[bunnyblue]

Wow, Steve remembering Kayla was really well done, and I loved that Days finally used some flashbacks. I've always loved Steve calling her 'sweetness' and 'baby', and their scenes are extra emotional when it's the original long-time actors playing it out. 

Xander's an idiot for not realizing Sarah was pissed & distracted and clearly hiding something. Did he not notice that she made a complete 180 from the baby-voiced-super-happy Sarah he saw earlier that day? Even Justin picked up on it with the WTF faces he was making in the background. 

I liked Eric & Nicole breaking the baby news to Brady. I'm glad Brady realized how much this was hurting Eric. Even though they're not blood related, I love the bond they have and that they clearly consider each other brothers.

Truly, I am so fed up with Kristen's endless tears and scenes over her "dead" baby. Yeah yeah losing a child is the hardest thing ever, but this woman's entire existence is about that baby. That is not healthy. Please get her off my screen.

[CanaryFan98]

Kristen aside this show is so much more watchable when Cin aren't on. 

Having the middle aged adults and the old timers be a focal point like today is the way to go with this show. Yes there probably should be a younger set but the show can't write for young people. I mean John and Marlena have more life to them than the 20/30 somethings left on this show and they're elderly.

[bobcat1946]

3 hours ago, Harmony233 said:

I tend to dislike Sarah but I thought she was the most interesting today.

I also really liked the Brady and Eric scenes.

 

Makes me wonder if it was in reverse would Brady hand over Eric's baby to him.  I doubt it.

[Pearson80]

I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of love for Steve and Kayla, they were just so damn awesome today, they still have it after all these years. It is a shame we cannot get couples like this anymore.   

[lb60]

The good people of Salem need to stop being nice to Kristen. They need to start remembering all the heinous shit she's done to them and/or their loved ones.

Crawl, Rachel, crawl! As far away from Mommy Dearest as you can get.

Oh, hey there, Steven Earl Johnson. It's so nice to have you back. You and your Sweetness are still magic.

I'm still not looking forward to Xander's world crashing down on him. 

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by lb60

[Frozendiva]

Steve and Kayla were magic, with the real emotion and tears of discovery that he was still there. Leagues above most of the other pairings.

Kristen killed one of Salem Hospital's nurses. She should not be left unsupervised with any infant. There should also be some counselling for her before handling any child. Marlena's reasonableness saved the day. Yes, Kristen should be escorted from the hospital and told to not come back.

I did like Eric and Brady talking as adults, and sharing each other's pain. I did get a kick out of Brady suggesting that he and Eric go kill Xander together. It was best to leave it to Sarah to deal with Xander in her own way. Nicole was right in hoping to let Eric find a way to feel and express his grief - he hasn't done that yet. At least no one blamed her this time.

Sarah was not in any real shape to marry anyone. She did a 180. Who does all these ramblings at weddings anyway? Some of the handwritten vows are just disasters. Sarah did wait to lead Xander along the web of lies that was their relationship and give him the gut punch at the end. No witnesses except for a baby? No gardener or anyone who had ten minutes to attend? The dress wasn't that great and the small flower arrangement looked fake.

[enchantingmonkey]

If you consider that in the deep recesses of Sarah's mind she's always known that Mickey isn't hers, as that flashback leads us to believe, then her going-through-the-motions ceremony with Xander was one more way for her to prolong her confrontation with tragedy.  So while I was initially frustrated that she didn't rip his face off the moment she walked in, it actually gave the story more depth with her forcing her way through those vows.  This whole year has been like a ticking time bomb for her that she hopes will never go off.   

I think I'm impressed that she's such a masochist.  

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, bobcat1946 said:

Makes me wonder if it was in reverse would Brady hand over Eric's baby to him.  I doubt it.

I think he would as flawed as Brady is he tends to do the right thing in the end with far less sanctimony than Father Eric.

[bunnyblue]

6 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

I am a Kayla / Steve fan and I am waiting for them to get back together, but part of me feels like Steve just assumed Kayla was just waiting around for him to return. 

In fairness to Steve, he probably hasn't entirely processed that it's been 2 years, so that's why he assumed Kayla would be more than willing to reunite. 

6 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

even though we know they will end up together.  This is one triangle where no one is "bad." 

IMO, the only reason Steve & Kayla won't eventually reunite is if one of the actors leaves the show again. Poor Justin, it's only a matter of time. And yes, I really appreciate that there is no bad guy in this triangle. Let's keep it that way. 

5 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Having the middle aged adults and the old timers be a focal point like today is the way to go with this show. Yes there probably should be a younger set but the show can't write for young people.

So true. I much prefer the show when the older characters are the focus. The writing sucks for the younger people, but it also doesn't help that most of them can't act. It's not like the older actors are Oscar-caliber either but they are better at selling the crap that's written and have fewer cringeworthy moments than the younger set. 

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Kristen killed one of Salem Hospital's nurses. She should not be left unsupervised with any infant.

She shouldn't even be allowed in the hospital. Was it ever explained why Kristen isn't in jail for killing Haley? It better not be something infuriating like "a mother's grief" made her do it, so therefore she should be forgiven.

Edited April 14, 2020 by bunnyblue

[DisneyBoy]

11 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

 And that basic ass dress was the gown Sarah needed Nicole to use her special fashion industry connects to track down? Apparently, I have special fashion connects too as I know someone who works at JC Penney's.  

ROTFL - nice one. I didn't know they'd set up the dress as being special. Why bother saying it's designer when they know it's going to be basic?

(Basic Black indeed!)

I thought LG was okay today. Was hoping for more of a change in her delivery. More cold. More dead. She got 50% of the way there though.

Marlena handling Kristen doesn't, in my mind, alter that Doc thinks she's a mega crazy bitch. I think Dee is with me on that too. I saw Mar getting "professional" there...not personal.

I want to see RANGE from Telfer tomorrow...I want to see him crumble like a real person. Not squeeze out a tear like a muscle man afraid of looking "bad". 

And yeah where IS Eric's shock and grief? Brady moved me more today by apoloizing to his brother...

Edited April 14, 2020 by DisneyBoy

[tribeca]

Sara was so mad her blue veins were showing when saying her vows.

lost power so don’t know how the wedding ended or if Kristin found out about the baby.

[boes]

7 hours ago, tribeca said:

Sara was so mad her blue veins were showing when saying her vows.

lost power so don’t know how the wedding ended or if Kristin found out about the baby.

The wedding ended with Sarah saying NO when asked by Justin if she takes this man stuff, and Kristen doesn't know about the baby yet, Brady left to tell her.

I thought LG did a good job yesterday with her rage and hurt just below the surface though certainly breaking through in her eyes and sometimes her voice.

I liked the Steve and Kayla scenes until the end when she told him she'd moved on, that felt a jarring end to the scene.  But then I remembered how many times Steve has left and not stayed in touch, how he got in a snit because he didn't approve of what Kayla did to get him his sight back, how long he stayed away in Africa or wherever the hell he was and I thought that as good as the two of them are together, it's Kayla who's done most of the heavy lifting in this relationship.  So with all due respect, Steve, you can suck it for a while.

What hospital in its RIGHT MIND would let Kristen hold babies?  Especially, as one of you pointed out, when she recently MURDERED one of their nurses?  They shouldn't even let her in the door unless she's been sedated and muzzled.

All this Oh POOR KRISTEN b.s. is too much for me.  Wrap up a troll doll in swaddling clothes, shove it in her arms and call it a day.

[boes]

49 minutes ago, boes said:

double post

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by boes

[Lastwaltz]

Wow, speed-watching it now but the Patch remembering Kayla just killed me. Hats off, Mary Beth and Steve, but I know you two are magic and pros and just the overall best. And thank you, show, for including those scenes. Again I spoke too soon! 

[Retired at last]

I also like Patch and Kayla, but I just felt that the whole "I remember" thing was too forced and fast and I didn't feel the satisfying reunion yet. And, why didn't he ask her what the hell is "Stefano's essence?" I still don't know how she could have said that with a straight face.

[BuckeyeLou]

Wow: Another Intense show today!  Good scenes for everyone.  Sarah's hurt, anger & devastation were making me cry.  And then Steve & Kayla, then Kayla talks to Justin: Justin kisses Kayla in the most Romantic way, oh sigh...he is going to be so hurt...this is a well-done triangle.  Brady actually showed a heart & some brains for a change!  Brady is thinking of Eric & Sarah's pain & does not want to go and rip Mickey(Rachel) away from them.  I thought Paul Telfer did a good job of showing Xander's desperation to keep Sarah & Mickey, but whoa: that look Xander gave Eric at the end!

[kitmerlot1213]

4 hours ago, boes said:

What hospital in its RIGHT MIND would let Kristen hold babies?  Especially, as one of you pointed out, when she recently MURDERED one of their nurses?  They shouldn't even let her in the door unless she's been sedated and muzzled.

All this Oh POOR KRISTEN b.s. is too much for me.  Wrap up a troll doll in swaddling clothes, shove it in her arms and call it a day.

Let's be frank here--Kristen did JJ a favor by getting rid of that simpering twit Haley.  That is one of the few things Kristen has done right.

And on today's episode, we got Kristen's telling Eric that she's going to pray for him--the show needs to drop the idea of Kristen as this self-sacrificing nun because it rings false.  We all know that there won't be any "forgive and forget" or "all's well that ends well" for Xander and Victor for the baby switch,  she will be seeking complete and total revenge that will make Gabi look like an amateur.

LG's Sarah continued to just decimate Xander, especially her disbelief that he showed how much he loved her by switching her dead baby with a live one--damn but that is just sick.

As wonderful as Steve's anguished response to Adrienne's death was, the show ruined it by having Steve talk about how close they were growing up and all they had was each other.  Steve and Adrienne didn't meet until she was a young woman.  I remember how awesome that episode was with Adrienne asking him who she looked like and he finally admitted she looked like his mom--gorgeous!

Edited April 14, 2020 by kitmerlot1213

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, Retired at last said:

I also like Patch and Kayla, but I just felt that the whole "I remember" thing was too forced and fast and I didn't feel the satisfying reunion yet. And, why didn't he ask her what the hell is "Stefano's essence?" I still don't know how she could have said that with a straight face.

This captures perfectly how I've been feeling the last 48 hours. Yesterday's episode and today's as well just had too many things happening at once in each of the storylines. Steve first recovers from the surgery, but then he has amnesia, but then he remembers Kayla, but then he finds out Adrienne's dead, but then he finds out Kayla's with Justin. All of that in two days?!

Then we have Sarah excited to marry Xander, Sarah finding out her baby is dead, Sarah teasing Xander with marriage, Sarah confronting Xander, and then Xander offering to run away with her and the baby that isn't theirs.

Because apparently Ron doesn't know how to pace himself for shit, they rushed what I thought was a really interesting moment - Brady's horror at realizing Eric had lost his daughter and that he was openly rejoicing over having regained his own. When Brady tearfully started apologizing to Eric yesterday? It was the most I've liked Brady in a very long time. He put aside his own happiness for a second and realized how awful Eric must feel and sympathized with that. It was over before it started though....

As much as I wanted to like today's wedding confrontation scenes, I didn't really. I don't think Lindsay was bad, I've just seen her do all of this shrieking and gesturing before, with Rex. What Xander pulled off is on a completely different scale than being cheated on by your fiance...still bad, but different. Yet her response was remarkably similar so this didn't feel real to me. I mean, let's be honest, this was prime Emmy reel material. Too bad Ron over-writes it and doesn't let the actor's faces do some of the talking instead. They can say more when they aren't given too much dialogue...

For whoever asked, I don't think they ever explained why Kristen didn't get sent to jail over Haley's death. The explanation seemed to be that she fled to a nunnery in Italy so...time served?

I wonder what's going to happen to Victor now that all of this has come out...

Edited April 14, 2020 by DisneyBoy

[cmahorror]

While I am loving the fallout from the baby switch a lot, you know what would have made it even better? If it were anyone other than Kristen because I just cannot bring myself to feel sorry for her at all. My heart is absolutely breaking for Sarah because she is dealing with multiple major revelations at once, even more than the other players in the game. First, she learns that Mickey isn't hers and then she learns that her baby is dead. Then she puts the pieces together and realizes that her mother caused the accident that killed her daughter. Finally she discovers that all of this heartache and pain has been caused by the one person she trusted most. You see it in her eyes all through the ceremony - she has all this pain and rage inside of her and the person who caused most of it is standing right in front of her, so what does she do? She strikes back in the most painful way possible - destroying his hope for a future as he is the most hopeful.

But, again, this would play out so much better if I had even an ounce of sympathy for the other mother in the story and I have none. Kristen is a murderer, kidnapper and rapist so I cannot bring myself to feel more than the bare minimum of sorrow for her loss. I wish I could but the way the character has been written over the years has stripped away makes it impossible.

Imagine if it had been another couple that the switch was done on. We don't have many options but the more soapier choice would have been an oops pregnancy for Cin with Victor choosing to have the swap happen not only to protect Maggie but to also drive a wedge between Ciara and Ben. He would still be able to spend time with his grandchild and I would have more sympathy for Ciara as she is just an idiot and not a raving lunatic criminal. Plus you have the added pathos of the Brady clan and the history of them with the Kiriakis's. Victor could see it as a just cause - Victor is protecting his grandchild from a man he feels is evil and unworthy.

[DaphneCat]

 

34 minutes ago, cmahorror said:

First, she learns that Mickey isn't hers and then she learns that her baby is dead. Then she puts the pieces together and realizes that her mother caused the accident that killed her daughter. Finally she discovers that all of this heartache and pain has been caused by the one person she trusted most.

She hasn't put it together yet that her mother is the reason her baby is dead.  I hope the fact that Victor wasn't even mentioned isn't the start of hand-waving his involvement.  Granted Xander didn't have to go along with it, but it really was Victor's plan.  I REALLY want him to tell Kristen and Brady that he thought it was a good idea because he was saving the baby from a psychopath.

The whole Eric at the cemetery thing didn't even ring vaguely true.  So now he has found out that a baby he never even laid eyes on (and to whom he had no emotional attachment as he didn't think it was his) has died and somehow, THAT is what he's focusing on?  I get that he's pissed about Mackenzie but how does that relate to a baby he didn't even know was his?

While I loved the whole Kayla/Steve thing (two terrific actors doing a great job) it didn't have the pull for me that I think they were hoping for.  Are we REALLY supposed to believe that after how many twists, turns, and misunderstandings there is any chance Kayla will end up with Justin?  And do we really want to see all the twists, turns, and misunderstandings?  I, for one, do not.

[Sandman]

58 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

I wonder what's going to happen to Victor now that all of this has come out...

I'm going to go out a limb and say the same the thing that happens to Victor most of the time: Nothing. 

[cmahorror]

1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

She hasn't put it together yet that her mother is the reason her baby is dead.

My guess would be that she has - after all, she knows her mom caused the car accident that caused her to go into labor. Maggie is in jail for that crime after all.

Sarah might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but she does know basic logic and, even if she hasn't said it, she knows that her mom accidentally caused the death of her daughter.

Edited April 14, 2020 by cmahorror

[Silver Raven]

Why didn't Steve ask, "Who's Sarah?"

 

[DaphneCat]

1 hour ago, cmahorror said:

My guess would be that she has - after all, she knows her mom caused the car accident that caused her to go into labor. Maggie is in jail for that crime after all.

Sarah might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but she does know basic logic and, even if she hasn't said it, she knows that her mom accidentally caused the death of her daughter.

No, I just think she's so enraged at Xander that she hasn't really thought about anything else.  She's not thinking about her mother now.  Later, when she has time to process everything, it will probably hit her.  She hasn't even thought to ask if he acted on his own or if anyone else knew about it.

[Lisa418722]

3 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

As wonderful as Steve's anguished response to Adrienne's death was, the show ruined it by having Steve talk about how close they were growing up and all they had was each other.  Steve and Adrienne didn't meet until she was a young woman.  I remember how awesome that episode was with Adrienne asking him who she looked like and he finally admitted she looked like his mom--gorgeous!

That took me out of the scene for a moment.  Billy (Jack) was a baby and Steve was 5-years-old when Jo put the two of them up for adoption. When Adrienne showed up all those years later, I remember Steve asking her (not a direct quote) "they had another one after giving me and my brother away?"  After she said yes, he said something like, "so they kept you?"  He was so hurt they gave him and his brother away, but kept her.

I can remember a storyline from 33 years ago, but I can't remember what I need to put on my shopping list. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by Lisa418722

[boes]

4 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

For whoever asked, I don't think they ever explained why Kristen didn't get sent to jail over Haley's death. The explanation seemed to be that she fled to a nunnery in Italy so...time served?

They sorta did, though vaguely.  I remember Kristen telling Lani that Brady stayed with her after she "accidentally" killed Haley more out of a sense of pity and duty and in that conversation, some reference made to how she wasn't charged due to temporary insanity.

TEMPORARY??

[WendyCR72]

3 minutes ago, boes said:

They sorta did, though vaguely.  I remember Kristen telling Lani that Brady stayed with her after she "accidentally" killed Haley more out of a sense of pity and duty and in that conversation, some reference made to how she wasn't charged due to temporary insanity.

TEMPORARY??

The stupid, it positively BURNS!!!!

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

Let's be frank here--Kristen did JJ a favor by getting rid of that simpering twit Haley.  That is one of the few things Kristen has done right.

 

Except it turned out to be pointless beyond giving JJ some brief meaty material. The show still got rid of him and he's most likely not returning(at this point its my preference). They might as well have given JJ a happy ending sure Haley isn't my first preference but considering the alternative was most likely Lani had the show kept him she's miles better than her to me.  

The worst part was that Melinda didn't even get to grieve her own daughter on screen or at least had a moment of rage vs Kristen. Instead it was treated as an afterthought and I'm supposed to find Kristen a sympathetic character based on what exactly? 

Its like Ben killing three women and the show wanting us to forget about it because hey they were irrelevant so who cares that he did something heinous I mean lack of consequences= great drama (Days logic apparently).

[hypnotoad]

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While I am loving the fallout from the baby switch a lot, you know what would have made it even better? If it were anyone other than Kristen because I just cannot bring myself to feel sorry for her at all.

Right there with you. The other side of this equation does nothing for at all. I don't like Kristen, I've liked this actress in other things but not here and I just don't care about Kristen's 'pain.' And her whole praying thing? Give me a break. Stop with the nun crap. She raped a priest, I mean seriously.

MBE and SN certainly still do have it after all these years. And they bring the weight of those years to the scenes. They are very good at their jobs. But ... the writing just leaves me a tad cold. It felt badly paced. Sigh. Poor Justin.

I like LG and so I liked the wedding stuff. I really do enjoy Sarah and Xander and those scenes were tough. And I am betting Victor will skate on this as per the usual.

[Pearson80]

2 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Except it turned out to be pointless beyond giving JJ some brief meaty material. The show still got rid of him and he's most likely not returning(at this point its my preference). They might as well have given JJ a happy ending sure Haley isn't my first preference but considering the alternative was most likely Lani had the show kept him she's miles better than her to me.  

The worst part was that Melinda didn't even get to grieve her own daughter on screen or at least had a moment of rage vs Kristen. Instead it was treated as an afterthought and I'm supposed to find Kristen a sympathetic character based on what exactly? 

Its like Ben killing three women and the show wanting us to forget about it because hey they were irrelevant so who cares that he did something heinous I mean lack of consequences= great drama (Days logic apparently).

Your post is why Soaps have been dying for years now..  A serial killer is a romantic hero dating the daughter of a beloved supercouple and a degenerate like Kristen is now a heroine with a miracle baby. 

My heart went out to Sara today and I hope she takes that baby and disappears for good.  Mackenzie deserves better than Kristen as a mother..  Mackenzie/Rachel is Sara's as far as I am concerned, biology be damned! That poor baby is nothing but a prop for Kristen to worm her way into Jarlena's life.

Edited April 15, 2020 by Pearson80

[Silver Raven]

36 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

Your post is why Soaps have been dying for years now..  A serial killer is a romantic hero dating the daughter of a beloved supercouple and a degenerate like Kristen is now a heroine with a miracle baby. 

When the hero of GH is a mobster who has how many murders to his credit?

[Frozendiva]

I continued to like Steve, Kayla, Jack, and Justin. No one is a bad person in the weird triangle. Steve's pain at losing Adrienne, finding out his brother has magically returned from the dead, etc.  So much time and history with all the characters. Maybe give Kayla some space and time to see what she wants.

No, Kristen, you just don't sashay up the Kiriakis driveway, pound on the door, and demand your baby back. The only mother your baby has ever known has just been told that her baby is not hers, her baby apparently died, her prospective husband switched the babies, etc. Give it til the next day. Allow both Eric and Sarah to grieve a bit. Felt for Nicole and Eric at the cemetery.

Sarah is a mess and entitled to be one.

I noticed that Xander's feet were quite big when he was sprawled on the floor, realizing that everything he had worked so hard for, in his weird redemption/being the kind of man Sarah would want tour, had crumbled.

Brady, Kristen is still a very unstable woman. Assaulting Eric the priest, killing Haley, finding some weird sort of redemption in going to a nunnery to find whatever she was looking for - mainly revenge.  It may not be the best idea for her to be in Rachel's/Mackenzie's life for a while without counselling and supervision. Maybe Sarah will fight for custody.

[boes]

I enjoyed a lot of today's show, even more than yesterday.  I thought that SN and MBE were just terrific today.  His pain at finding out about Adrienne was wrenching, as was Kayla's sorrow at having to tell him everything that's played out in the past year or more and the dawning realization of how this is going to change her life.

I loved Jack and Patch's scenes too, they really did have that old connection today.  Minor quibble, I wish one of them had mentioned Jo but maybe later.  In any case, I think everyone in that storyline did an excellent job and left me wanting more.

LG was also very good, I thought.  Paul Telfer was okay, not bad, I just don't think these kind of scenes are his strong suit.  Nonetheless, his bewilderment at how messed up his life just got and her fury and hurt came across loud and clear.

I was afraid there, for a moment, that Show was going to make us watch Nicole be really nice to Kristen.  Thank God Show let her just be mute.  I just can't with Kristen.  Yeah yeah she lost her baby, how sad.  About as sad, maybe, as it was when you made everyone think Holly was dead?  

I'm not sure exactly why Doug and Julie were on today.  Doug, yeah, he's a nice guy who pretty much cares about everyone but I've never thought Julie really gave a rats ass about anyone outside of the Hortons and not even all of them.  

Justin, when you go home tonight, set up a Tinder account, you're gonna need it sooner than you think.

[bunnyblue]

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Steve's pain at losing Adrienne, finding out his brother has magically returned from the dead, etc. 

I started watching again last year after a long hiatus, so I'm not quite clear on when Steve left and what he knew before he left. You're telling me that the last thing Steve knew (before Stefano's men got him) about Jack was that he died when the elevator fell? WTH??!! Now his non-reaction to Jack sitting in his hospital room makes no sense. I loved his reaction to finding out about Adrienne's death, but we get nothing about seeing his brother miraculously back from the dead. Ugh.

Anyway, Stephen Nichols has been great these last 2 episodes, so I will forgive the line about Steve & Adrienne being there for each other as kids. Since they were still pretty young when they met maybe he considers himself and her as 'kids' during that time. 

Edit: I just rewatched, and Steve actually said when he & Adrienne were "little" not "kids" like I said earlier. Well that makes the line worse, because they were definitely not little when they met. 

Also, I couldn't help but laugh when Jennifer & Jack barged into Steve's hospital room as he's crying his eyes out over Adrienne. Learn to knock, people! And then Jennifer just flings herself over Steve to hug him when the poor guy is trying to compose himself. LOL.

Edited April 15, 2020 by bunnyblue

[Irlandesa]

5 minutes ago, bunnyblue said:

Adrienne's death, but we get nothing about seeing his brother miraculously back from the dead. Ugh.

I think it's unclear when Steve lost his memory but I do think he knew Jack was back from the dead. 

I liked their scenes and that awesome hug.  I didn't like the dialogue.  It feels like everything Steve said was exposition of some sort.  He recapped the situation he's in regarding Kayla as if we couldn't figure out the dilemma they now face.  Then he recapped the most recent moments he spent with Kayla.  It was basically nothing.

[CanaryFan98]

35 minutes ago, boes said:

 

 

I'm not sure exactly why Doug and Julie were on today.  Doug, yeah, he's a nice guy who pretty much cares about everyone but I've never thought Julie really gave a rats ass about anyone outside of the Hortons and not even all of them.  

 

Episode guarantees but one would think they would've been featured with Gina/Hope instead of something that has very little to do with them. Its not like they raised Hope together or something..

However for those of us who watched Julie for decades yeah she cares mostly about the Hortons but she does have regard for others she was a mentor to Eve (when CR played her) along with other characters. For some reason though the show seems to forget Julie actually has a history and stature on this show that goes beyond feuding with Gabi. Gabi doesn't really rate compared to her old time rivals tbh.

Edited April 15, 2020 by CanaryFan98

[CanaryFan98]

1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

When the hero of GH is a mobster who has how many murders to his credit?

GH along with the NBC soaps were what I grew up on watching with my mom and in the end only GH was the one she watched till she passed. 

I however gave up on GH way before that because I knew it was never going to go beyond Sonny/Jason/Carly.  The only way the show is going to escape those three is when it gets cancelled. 

For some reason I can still find something about Days to watch because despite my issues with the show they actually write for more than 3 characters and have decent family scenes once in a while. Plus they always seem to make the camp work compared to the other three which takes themselves too seriously.

2 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

Your post is why Soaps have been dying for years now..  A serial killer is a romantic hero dating the daughter of a beloved supercouple and a degenerate like Kristen is now a heroine with a miracle baby. 

My heart went out to Sara today and I hope she takes that baby and disappears for good.  Mackenzie deserves better than Kristen as a mother..  Mackenzie/Rachel is Sara's as far as I am concerned, biology be damned! That poor baby is nothing but a prop for Kristen to worm her way into Jarlena's life.

Pretty much that and there are way more options for viewers to get their soap fix reality TV shows come to mind. Times have changed things acceptable back then don't work now and soaps never adapted.

In my ideal Days Sarah went to Africa where JJ hides her and Mickey they work alongside each other in the clinic and raise Mickey together. That would be JJ's revenge vs Kristen for killing Haley.

Edited April 15, 2020 by CanaryFan98