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19 hours ago, JBC344 said:

Unless they are retconning Kristen's memories she knows who her bio father is. She may not have many memories of him but she has always known who he is and was aware of his death.

I was joking, mostly. Her behaviour certainly suggests she is both batshit crazy and, well, not that bright. I don't actually think there will be any official retcon here -- but then again, I wouldn't put it past these jokers anyhow.

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1 hour ago, Sandman said:

I was joking, mostly. Her behaviour certainly suggests she is both batshit crazy and, well, not that bright. I don't actually think there will be any official retcon here -- but then again, I wouldn't put it past these jokers anyhow.

Oh I knew you were joking, but like you mentioned I wouldn't put it past the writers to then have Kristen wonder if Steve was her birth father. 

One thing I did like was Kristen mentioning that she is the only living daughter. Nice little touch/reminder. 

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18 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

I had to laugh at Chad concerned about Ciara dating a killer when that's literally what he, Chad, is doing.

 

Didn't Chad himself accidentally kill his own mother?  I mean no one can throw stones in this town.  

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Chad has become so smug and arrogant. The only person he seems to be soft and caring towards is Abigail. What's happened to him?

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1 hour ago, ihavenoidea said:

Didn't Chad himself accidentally kill his own mother?  I mean no one can throw stones in this town.  

Chad didn't kill Madeline. She died after a fall down the stairs. Now she was probably distracted because of an argument she had with Chad, but it wasn't like they were struggling with one another. 

But yes, I agree that all the charm Chad used to have is all gone. 

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I'm sure the EP is interfering but it doesn't explain the things we see on this show that we've seen with Ron on other soaps that were terrible(DID, crazy women, women who are helpless etc) I mean they're both at fault here I blame the EP more because some things stay the same regardless of writer.

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2 hours ago, Sidney said:

Chad has become so smug and arrogant. The only person he seems to be soft and caring towards is Abigail. What's happened to him?

Agreed!!! Not only that, but he’s super dull and almost always nagging or repeating himself. Shut up Bruh. 

True confession. I have always disliked Kristen but really warmed to her during her pregnancy and can’t deny she at least does stuff that’s interesting. I would prefer if they did have a crazy bitch on canvas, it would be Claire. Since I’m admitting newfound appreciation I’ve always been bored by Eli but damn if he isn’t sexy AF w Gabi and showing some grit. Since Jack’s been back I’ve also liked Jennifer and I hated her for years. 

I feel sorry for JJ for all everyone’s well meaning words and gestures I don’t feel like anyone is authentically “there for him”. If that makes sense. Even now in his recovery and processing of grief he’s supressing his self care to help Lani, who I actually think is a user and playing up her martyrdom. 

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8 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

 

I feel sorry for JJ for all everyone’s well meaning words and gestures I don’t feel like anyone is authentically “there for him”. If that makes sense. Even now in his recovery and processing of grief he’s supressing his self care to help Lani, who I actually think is a user and playing up her martyrdom. 

That's because there isn't anyone there authentically for him.

There was Doug but they rarely share scenes. .... 

I'd say Rory but he can't take care of himself let alone anyone else. 

Eric might've worked but alas he's all about Sarah/Nicole so...

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He’s an addict and borderline suicidal. He still hasn’t processed it all or done the work and totally ignoring and throwing it aside to help stupid Lani. Abigail of course doesn’t give a damn. The writing is really shitty. All the people who are carrying the heaviest burdens are caping for others. And all the people with stupid ass trivial problems that often they create or exaggerate are those with the sympathy. 

Like Ben. The entire focus is he’s wrongfully convicted. But he was never convicted for a bunch of horrible felonies. Why would I feel sorry karma vistited in a round a bout way? giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29d2e16c1f03333e19fd

hes honestly lucky Eve didn’t discretely arrange to have him killed. It always reminds me of the man who killed his gf in front of her kids and skated on a technicality as innocent. Months later, this Halloween a person in a clown mask and costume walked up and shot him in the head and no useable witnesses or evidence cuz of the mask, gloves, clown shoes and dude never saw that shit coming. 

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Wouldn't Abigail have a slightly better relationship with Uncle Steve? Why just drop in at Kristen's hotel room? No one calls to for a visit?

Jack, you did a smart thing by editing Jennifer's 'story'. No, you do not have proof that the person who pushed her off was Dr. Rolf. She could still be a target.

Lani, you are a cop. Surely you could investigate the company that made Julie's pacemaker to see if there is a real App that can actually do anything. It really could be like a garage door opener that has found a frequency that is identical to the programmed one. Up goes someone's door. Why ask JJ, who has his own problems? Surely you can do this on your own or ask your dad for help. JJ, you should be a bit selfish and just pay attention to yourself and your recovery right now. Not help the helpless not nun.

Gabs, nice outfit but it is more for summer. You'd get frostbite on your midriff if you lived where I am living. Eli, you should not let your grandma pressure you in to marriage.

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On 1/11/2020 at 10:54 AM, Sidney said:

No words for Ciara.

I have a word for her. Loud mouthed annoying harpy. Okay, more than one word. I just don't like that girl. I wouldn't like the way she acts, even if the guy she was defending was a good guy. It's just OTT annoying.

 

I want that dress Kristen is wearing. Anyone know of a site that sells daytime knock off clothes ? I would so wear that dress and those boots.

So okay, I'm so lost on the Will/Adrienne thing. Obviously, the audience is supposed to be, but I just wonder if it's not one of those things yet that even Ron doesn't know what happened ? Why would Victor let Will think he'd killed Adrienne, and why would Will think it ? I'm so confused.

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Just now, IWantCandy71 said:

So okay, I'm so lost on the Will/Adrienne thing. Obviously, the audience is supposed to be, but I just wonder if it's not one of those things yet that even Ron doesn't know what happened ? Why would Victor let Will think he'd killed Adrienne, and why would Will think it ? I'm so confused.

At this point I'm sure he knew what he wanted to write but it was pretty annoying how they wrote the Victor/Xander/Ciara scenes.  I actually enjoyed much of the drama of it but in order to drag it out, they had Ciara act unlike anyone else would act in that situation.  Once she finds out that it's Will who is the innocent one, she doesn't stick around to find out what exactly happened; she leave claiming she's going to go tell people.

But tell people what? That Will is innocent?  People are going to want to know what really happened and she doesn't have a clue.  Did Victor kill Adrienne?  Xander? Someone else?

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5 minutes ago, IWantCandy71 said:

So okay, I'm so lost on the Will/Adrienne thing. Obviously, the audience is supposed to be, but I just wonder if it's not one of those things yet that even Ron doesn't know what happened ? Why would Victor let Will think he'd killed Adrienne, and why would Will think it ? I'm so confused.

It will be revealed on screen next week (and likely in the spoiler thread here, as long as it's released in the various mags or promo, later this week).

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2 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

At this point I'm sure he knew what he wanted to write but it was pretty annoying how they wrote the Victor/Xander/Ciara scenes.  I actually enjoyed much of the drama of it but in order to drag it out, they had Ciara act unlike anyone else would act in that situation.  Once she finds out that it's Will who is the innocent one, she doesn't stick around to find out what exactly happened; she leave claiming she's going to go tell people.

But tell people what? That Will is innocent?  People are going to want to know what really happened and she doesn't have a clue.  Did Victor kill Adrienne?  Xander? Someone else?

She was told the details during the commercial between Victor telling her that he and Xander framed Will, and then finishing up with "That's the whole sordid truth..." - I can't really say much more without spoiling things, but your last few questions will be answered by the end of next week.

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2 minutes ago, QueenSerena said:

She was told the details during the commercial between Victor telling her that he and Xander framed Will, and then finishing up with "That's the whole sordid truth..." - I can't really say much more without spoiling things, but your last few questions will be answered by the end of next week.

Thank you.  I must have missed the beginning of that scene but I didn't care enough to rewind. 

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42 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

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At this point I'm sure he knew what he wanted to write but it was pretty annoying how they wrote the Victor/Xander/Ciara scenes.  I actually enjoyed much of the drama of it but in order to drag it out, they had Ciara act unlike anyone else would act in that situation.  Once she finds out that it's Will who is the innocent one, she doesn't stick around to find out what exactly happened; she leave claiming she's going to go tell people.

But tell people what? That Will is innocent?  People are going to want to know what really happened and she doesn't have a clue.  Did Victor kill Adrienne?  Xander? Someone else?

Well I think Ciara asked if they killed her, and Victor said "of course not" and Xander said "we would never". 

But they are leaving Will to rot, and Will seems to think he did it. Well, at least the show has something I'm interested in knowing the truth about LOL !

41 minutes ago, QueenSerena said:

It will be revealed on screen next week (and likely in the spoiler thread here, as long as it's released in the various mags or promo, later this week).

Okay. I will try to remain unspoiled. I want to be surprised.  

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2 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

He’s an addict and borderline suicidal. He still hasn’t processed it all or done the work and totally ignoring and throwing it aside to help stupid Lani. Abigail of course doesn’t give a damn. The writing is really shitty. All the people who are carrying the heaviest burdens are caping for others. And all the people with stupid ass trivial problems that often they create or exaggerate are those with the sympathy. 

Like Ben. The entire focus is he’s wrongfully convicted. But he was never convicted for a bunch of horrible felonies. Why would I feel sorry karma vistited in a round a bout way? giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29d2e16c1f03333e19fd

hes honestly lucky Eve didn’t discretely arrange to have him killed. It always reminds me of the man who killed his gf in front of her kids and skated on a technicality as innocent. Months later, this Halloween a person in a clown mask and costume walked up and shot him in the head and no useable witnesses or evidence cuz of the mask, gloves, clown shoes and dude never saw that shit coming. 

As self absorbed as Abby is I do think she cares about her family I can't say the same for Ciara but otherwise I agree with you. 

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Which is why I'm so glad JJ is leaving this show because at least he'll be offscreen and spared the stupidity of future storylines on this show. This is what happens when you are reduced to nice guy loser status on this show.

 

53 minutes ago, IWantCandy71 said:

 

 

I want that dress Kristen is wearing. Anyone know of a site that sells daytime knock off clothes ? I would so wear that dress and those boots.

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Ask and you shall receive

 

https://wornontv.net/days-of-our-lives/

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6 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

As self absorbed as Abby is I do think she cares about her family I can't say the same for Ciara but otherwise I agree with you. 

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Which is why I'm so glad JJ is leaving this show because at least he'll be offscreen and spared the stupidity of future storylines on this show. This is what happens when you are reduced to nice guy loser status on this show.

 

Ask and you shall receive

 

https://wornontv.net/days-of-our-lives/

Aww, thank you. I knew someone here might know where to find it.  I like the one Nicole was wearing last week as well and I see it on there, too.

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11 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

But tell people what? That Will is innocent?  People are going to want to know what really happened and she doesn't have a clue.  Did Victor kill Adrienne?  Xander? Someone else?

This is pure speculation, and I have no spoilers, but I can only imagine that

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Maggie fell off the wagon and accidentally knocked Adrienne off that balcony. Who else does Victor love enough to want to protect? Who else would Xander and Victor agree on enough to shield?

Knowing this lot, it'll probably end up being Will who killed Jordan ...

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I liked how Gabi overreacted during the dream sequence.

All of that noise Marlena was making, I thought she and John were doing the nasty.

 

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It would've been better if Gabi walked in on them having sex rather than making out.

Why must JJ be stuck in this mess I rather have him in scenes with Rafe finding out about Hopina/Stevano instead.. at least that involves his actual family members.

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I saw someone on a different site make the excellent point that Gabi saved JJ's life and asked for nothing in return but Lani stopped JJ from shooting Kristen(the woman who killed his girlfriend over nothing, much like how his other girlfriend died) and is now asking for a favor. Like are the writers sure Lani is the one we are supposed to be rooting for? I think this is ass backwards. When I think about it, Lani has more or less sabotaged every relationship Gabi has had Eli, JJ and then Stefan(I would say he's the luckiest cos he didn't have to live in order to get fucked by Lani) so I don't feel that sorry for her. Not saying Gabi is 100% justified in dragging Julie into her beef with Lani but It's understandable since Julie was an ass to Gabi for so long. So two birds with one stone, but good grief there had to have been a better way than some stupid pacemaker app. I will go to my grave calling this story line stupid. 

Also Gabi x Eli does nothing for me they can't break up soon enough. 
  

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40 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

I liked how Gabi overreacted during the dream sequence.

All of that noise Marlena was making, I thought she and John were doing the nasty.

 

The phrase "Bombs bursting in air" came into my head for some reason, followed immediately by "the Little Train that could".

My poor brain.....

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21 minutes ago, TeamGabi said:

I saw someone on a different site make the excellent point that Gabi saved JJ's life and asked for nothing in return but Lani stopped JJ from shooting Kristen(the woman who killed his girlfriend over nothing, much like how his other girlfriend died) and is now asking for a favor. Like are the writers sure Lani is the one we are supposed to be rooting for? I think this is ass backwards. When I think about it, Lani has more or less sabotaged every relationship Gabi has had Eli, JJ and then Stefan(I would say he's the luckiest cos he didn't have to live in order to get fucked by Lani) so I don't feel that sorry for her. Not saying Gabi is 100% justified in dragging Julie into her beef with Lani but It's understandable since Julie was an ass to Gabi for so long. So two birds with one stone, but good grief there had to have been a better way than some stupid pacemaker app. I will go to my grave calling this story line stupid. 

Also Gabi x Eli does nothing for me they can't break up soon enough. 
  

Gabi wasn't that selfless she brought it up when JJ was rightfully suspicious of her gaslighting Abby acting wounded that he would think such of thing of her after what she did for him.

Lani and Gabi are both terrible for different reasons. Between the two Gabi is far easier to take.

Regardless I hate that JJ is in this storyline in general for a variety of reasons but he also doesn't fit in this story not when for the past year he barely interacted with these people till now. If they want to create stakes for these lame stories of theirs they need to actually have a real buildup and they don't...

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Pro Tip: If the crux of the Hattie distinction is she stammers and trips over her words. Maybe not have “Marlena” do it also? 

“and and and...uh um gasp” STFU both of you. 

Eli’s ring was a little ugly. But he’s extremely good looking and seems like he’s banging Gabi like a screen door in a hurricane so who cares? Nice touch that Gabi’s been wearing Stefan’s necklace gift this entire time daily for months (Days 1.5 years?). Obviously this shit will come full circle and Lani will ruin their wedding and make Eli dump her at the alter. Yawn. 

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1 hour ago, Petunia13 said:

Pro Tip: If the crux of the Hattie distinction is she stammers and trips over her words. Maybe not have “Marlena” do it also? 

 

This may be an unpopular opinion but I hate Deidre's version of Hattie.  Andrea Hall was so much better in the role. 

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22 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

This may be an unpopular opinion but I hate Deidre's version of Hattie.  Andrea Hall was so much better in the role. 

UO? I hate all the dual characters which seem to consist of stuttering or corny accents. 

I was ruined by David Canary who spun shit to gold and was incredibly distinct. Stuart could move you to tears or want to hug him and Adam would be making you scared or wanting to beat his ass same episode or scene. I’m not expecting that caliber but damn the half assedness and grade school play of it all are trying me. 

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1 hour ago, Petunia13 said:

UO? I hate all the dual characters which seem to consist of stuttering or corny accents. 

I was ruined by David Canary who spun shit to gold and was incredibly distinct. Stuart could move you to tears or want to hug him and Adam would be making you scared or wanting to beat his ass same episode or scene. I’m not expecting that caliber but damn the half assedness and grade school play of it all are trying me. 

Yes and AMC by the end was truly awful.... and yet he managed to still be watchable...

I miss that man dearly...

However at least it was established Adam/Stuart are twins from the beginning more or less...

These dopplegangers are those Days comes up with because they are too lazy to come up with decent stories for the actual characters involved.

So here are some ideas if the writers actually read this thread.

 

Hope

Could've stayed with Aiden this entire time. Chase/Ciara could've had a complicated sibling relationship. They could butt heads w/ her being a cop and him being a lawyer defending the shady people she's trying to put away.

If that wasn't an option they could've had a story with Ciara returning to town resenting Hope for ditching her after Bo died. They could've dealt with their many issues because of that, Chase raping her etc. she could've developed a crush on Rafe even to the point where she went after him herself and Hope had to deal with it. Would be a nice tie in to Doug/Julie's history with Hope's mom.

Steve

Could've returned to town watching Kayla move onto another man because he pushed her away over the Bionic Eye. For once Steve would have to fight another man over Kayla who craves stability etc despite loving Steve. Bring back Stephanie or Joey for them to deal with. 

 

Adrienne

Bring back another one of her and Justin's kids for Sonny to deal with, Victor to bond with. Or have Angelica return BFTD and torment Justin/Adrienne.

Marlena 

Have her be involved in Brady/Kristen's storyline as she should be or even with Will. Heck bring Claire back and have Jarlena deal with their hellion granddaughter so they can relive the Sami years.

Kristen

The character ran her course just kill her off.

All of these would be better storylines than well the alternate versions of these characters.

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Of course, Kayla's test on Julie's pacemaker may indicate some sort of tech upgrade to it. Or not.

Hope's office wouldn't have stunk up the rest of the floor? I don't get the plan to kill both John and Marlena. Just find a lookalike, and ask Dr. Rolf to create a mask so you both get who you want and no one suffers. At least Rafe has the Salem Nose today.

Nice of Lani to lie to her father about where she was for a year. And that she is back in Salem using JJ. Please just pack a bag and maybe go to London for a year, JJ. Get rid of your ties to Salem.

Gabi's ring was okay - simple.

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13 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Please just pack a bag and maybe go to London for a year, JJ. Get rid of your ties to Salem.

 

I would prefer it permanent he would be so much better off.

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In a way it makes sense for JJ to help Lani.  It’s a distraction.  I doubt he wants to be around his family in his state.  I do think Abby cares about him and sees through any Bs if he tries to say he is fine.  
Jennifer has always been very involved with her kid’s so her not at least visiting JJ doesn’t make sense. 
 Lani doesn’t seem to care about JJ at all.  A man she use to love.  Eli should more concern than Lani.  I was extremely disappointed in her. 

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12 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Pro Tip: If the crux of the Hattie distinction is she stammers and trips over her words. Maybe not have “Marlena” do it also? 

I know. Yesterday when "Marlena" woke up from her dream, she was very Hattie-like. 

12 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Obviously this shit will come full circle and Lani will ruin their wedding and make Eli dump her at the alter. Yawn. 

Poetic justice, I suppose. 

10 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

UO? I hate all the dual characters which seem to consist of stuttering or corny accents. 

I'm sick of all the dual characters.  And losing interest again in the show.  Good thing it's winter, because if this were gardening season, I probably wouldn't be watching at all.

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15 hours ago, TeamGabi said:

Also Gabi x Eli does nothing for me they can't break up soon enough.   

Yeah, between Gabi and Eli and Chad and Abs and Bonehead Black and his new "friend" Nicole (and maybe Will and Dead Man BOllie Walking??), this show has become a neck-and-neck race to decide the Lesser of Who Cares? 

Wait, so Lani became a nun, but didn't tell anyone where she was or what she was doing, and now she's lying to her father about where she went for an entire year? That's … some vocation ya got there, lady.

I don't think I've ever seen a time-jump that immediately functions as a retcon before. That must be a tricky little combo to pull off.

Of course, it leads to the natural question: what was the frickin' point? (I think it must mean the character is completely expendable, but what do I know? I live in a world where every third person I know isn't someone else's evil twin...)  

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16 hours ago, TeamGabi said:

Also Gabi x Eli does nothing for me they can't break up soon enough. 

I mean, they look hot together, but this. I'm bored. Gabi is the only character I really still care about tbh but I don't even watch most of their scenes because they're just so boring. Eli is hot but he's just nothing to me.

1 hour ago, Sandman said:

Wait, so Lani became a nun, but didn't tell anyone where she was or what she was doing, and now she's lying to her father about where she went for an entire year? That's … some vocation ya got there, lady.

Yet we're supposed to be rooting for her. It's actually kinda funny.

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1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Yet we're supposed to be rooting for her. It's actually kinda funny

So laughable. And at the end of the day, the fact that she killed Gabi's husband is forgotten and poor Lani is the victim. Cry me a fucking river!

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1 hour ago, howmanywords said:

So laughable. And at the end of the day, the fact that she killed Gabi's husband is forgotten and poor Lani is the victim. Cry me a fucking river!

I think that's why I am having so much trouble with this storyline because Lani is a terrible character, bland and self-righteous but we're supposed to see her as sweet and compassionate and deserving of all good things?  How can the writing be this off the mark?

 

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40 minutes ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

I think that's why I am having so much trouble with this storyline because Lani is a terrible character, bland and self-righteous but we're supposed to see her as sweet and compassionate and deserving of all good things?  How can the writing be this off the mark?

Ron has the most uncanny ability to paint the villains as the good guys and the good guys as the villains. I can't decide whether it's deliberate, or just another indictment on his particular brand of storytelling. 🙃

Edit - I should probably expand on this a bit. Leo was a conman who had previously killed, but his mommy was so mean to him and that's why he did such terrible things. Same with Xander; we're apparently supposed to feel sorry his family has treated him like the joke he is, despite all the terrible things he's done. Ron has a thing about redeeming villains, for some reason.

Then there's Eric, who is supposed to be a good guy but yikes. Friggin' Ciara jumps in the face of anyone who dares to say her serial killer boyfriend isn't safe to be around (plus that same serial killer's living victims are starting to change their tune about him). And of course, there's your example with Lani. It doesn't help that so many characters had to be dumbed down for this pacemaker thing to be told, but what the heck is going on that they can't figure out how to write correctly for the protagonists vs. the antagonists?

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1 hour ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

How can the writing be this off the mark?

Is that a trick question?

Or are you perhaps looking for a more detailed and cogent answer than "... because they're TERRIBLE, that's why!"

Edited to add: Ooh, looks like QueenSerena has Option #2 covered already.

 

 

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23 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Gabi wasn't that selfless she brought it up when JJ was rightfully suspicious of her gaslighting Abby acting wounded that he would think such of thing of her after what she did for him.

Lani and Gabi are both terrible for different reasons. Between the two Gabi is far easier to take.

Regardless I hate that JJ is in this storyline in general for a variety of reasons but he also doesn't fit in this story not when for the past year he barely interacted with these people till now. If they want to create stakes for these lame stories of theirs they need to actually have a real buildup and they don't...

True. Be that as it may however, JJ should know his sister is not infallible she provoked Gabi by sending her to prison for a crime she didn't commit if Abby didn't want to be gaslighted then maybe she shouldn't have gone around framing people for murder and being an all around judgmental twat, if JJ wants to stick up for his sister fine. But don't enable her or make excuses he knows what she did. Like he knows what Gabi did in response. As for Lani this is the chick he cheated on Gabi with, maybe he should stay out of it even if he doesn't agree. They both did her wrong. But if JJ is the one that put this storyline to rest, then so be it they just need to hurry it up before I start disliking him the way I dislike the rest of his family. I really don't want to do that.

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So, instead of taking Gabi's phone so it could have the app disabled or, for crying out loud - TELL ELI, he just played around and tried to guess Gabi's passwords so that she can walk back in and see what he is doing and put him on alert??? JJ is (was) smarter the that.

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11 hours ago, tribeca said:

In a way it makes sense for JJ to help Lani.  It’s a distraction.  I doubt he wants to be around his family in his state.  I do think Abby cares about him and sees through any Bs if he tries to say he is fine.  
Jennifer has always been very involved with her kid’s so her not at least visiting JJ doesn’t make sense. 
 Lani doesn’t seem to care about JJ at all.  A man she use to love.  Eli should more concern than Lani.  I was extremely disappointed in her. 

From that POV I get why JJ would be helping I prefer he not I rather he be a jerk and tell her to go fuck herself.

Nice guy losers are just that.

Its funny Lani has no regard for JJ considering the lengths she went through to get him in the first place.. Lani wants what she can't have.. she always seems to want Eli or someone else when they're taken.. yet that's never addressed as to why. 

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4 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

How can the writing be this off the mark?

Ron. That's how.

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14 minutes ago, TeamGabi said:

True. Be that as it may however, JJ should know his sister is not infallible she provoked Gabi by sending her to prison for a crime she didn't commit if Abby didn't want to be gaslighted then maybe she shouldn't have gone around framing people for murder and being an all around judgmental twat, if JJ wants to stick up for his sister fine. But don't enable her or make excuses he knows what she did. Like he knows what Gabi did in response. As for Lani this is the chick he cheated on Gabi with, maybe he should stay out of it even if he doesn't agree. They both did her wrong. But if JJ is the one that put this storyline to rest, then so be it they just need to hurry it up before I start disliking him the way I dislike the rest of his family. I really don't want to do that.

Yet Gabi is cool with Stefan who helped frame her and showed no real remorse for it Abby apologized even if it wasn't that sincere to me that's more than Stefan but hey he's her "true love" who's heart she's using to blow Julie up for kicks. I can't take Gabi seriously here if she hates Abby for the exact same thing Stefan did to her and has no mental illness excuse to fall back on. If Gabi hates Abby for other reasons (like Chad etc) that would make more sense to me but that's not the case.

Besides Gabi never was into JJ that much putting aside the fact he was too drunk to remember anything with Lani. I find it gross to shame him for that when if the roles were reversed JJ would be labeled a rapist. Same with Eli however Gabi hating Lani over that and getting revenge afterwards makes more sense than Gabi getting revenge on Lani after her 5 second relationship with Stefan a dude she only married to steal his money and company in the first place. She was always more fixate on Chad than either of those guys.

The only saving grace of Stabi is that the actors had chemistry and played well off each other nothing from a writing standpoint made Stabi a viable pair to me at least.

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6 hours ago, howmanywords said:

So laughable. And at the end of the day, the fact that she killed Gabi's husband is forgotten and poor Lani is the victim. Cry me a fucking river!

Trust me, Gabi hasn't forgotten it. But, Lani killed Stefan because the idiot jumped in front of her gun while in the middle of committing a crime. Lani did not deserve Gabi's vengeance considering her beloved husband was in the wrong. It struck me watching the show the other day how similar Gabi and Julie are in their misplaced hatred. I get that Julie loved Nick but he was a horrible person who did horrible things to Gabi. Just because she loved Nick didn't mean she had any right to continually attack Gabi for years for killing him. Same with Gabi here. Her love for Stefan doesn't mean he was some innocent victim here or that Lani, or even Julie, deserves what she's doing right now. Cry me a fucking river for Gabi.

5 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

I think that's why I am having so much trouble with this storyline because Lani is a terrible character, bland and self-righteous but we're supposed to see her as sweet and compassionate and deserving of all good things?  How can the writing be this off the mark?

 

It's not off the mark for me. I'm relishing Lani getting revenge on Gabi. I find it kind of ridiculous that more people seem to be up in arms about Lani committing vandalism and lying to her dad but are totally cool with Gabi threatening murder. Also, she had Eli humiliated in the worst possible way and laughed at the idea of his pain and then proceeds to enter into a relationship with him while still threatening to kill his grandmother. And yet, we're supposed to feel any sympathy for Gabi and worry about her lies blowing up in her face. Screw that. I'm fine with any way Lani chooses to get revenge on Gabi. Lani isn't an absolute favorite of mine but the hatred towards this character has always seemed disproportionate and kind of makes me root for her especially when she's up against a gross character like Gabi.

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48 minutes ago, TeamGabi said:

True. Be that as it may however, JJ should know his sister is not infallible she provoked Gabi by sending her to prison for a crime she didn't commit if Abby didn't want to be gaslighted then maybe she shouldn't have gone around framing people for murder and being an all around judgmental twat, if JJ wants to stick up for his sister fine. But don't enable her or make excuses he knows what she did. Like he knows what Gabi did in response. As for Lani this is the chick he cheated on Gabi with, maybe he should stay out of it even if he doesn't agree.

Abby was mentally ill. She didn't go around gaslighting anyone for shits and giggles. And unlike Gabi, Abby actually apologized for what she did. JJ should stick up for his sister when someone is drugging her while pregnant and trying to ruin her life purposefully. Especially when stupid Gabi tried to make JJ feel awful when he called her on her lies knowing full well he was right about what she was doing.

He should stay out of it? Maybe so if Gabi and Lani were simply squabbling over a guy but Gabi is threatening to MURDER someone JJ loves. of course he's not just going to stay out of it.

35 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Yet Gabi is cool with Stefan who helped frame her and showed no real remorse for it Abby apologized even if it wasn't that sincere to me that's more than Stefan but hey he's her "true love" who's heart she's using to blow Julie up for kicks. I can't take Gabi seriously here if she hates Abby for the exact same thing Stefan did to her and has no mental illness excuse to fall back on. If Gabi hates Abby for other reasons (like Chad etc) that would make more sense to me but that's not the case.

This! If Gabi was cool with Stefan after what he purposely did to her then she should be over what Abby did.

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I was hoping that JJ would accidentally blow up Julie's heart fooling around with Gabi's phone.

Boom goes Julie in the middle of Horton Square!

That's some drama I can get behind.

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7 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

I think that's why I am having so much trouble with this storyline because Lani is a terrible character, bland and self-righteous but we're supposed to see her as sweet and compassionate and deserving of all good things?  How can the writing be this off the mark?

 

Root for a woman who slept around with two of Gabi's men and killed the third one.  Not happening,.

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2 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

From that POV I get why JJ would be helping I prefer he not I rather he be a jerk and tell her to go fuck herself.

Nice guy losers are just that.

Its funny Lani has no regard for JJ considering the lengths she went through to get him in the first place.. Lani wants what she can't have.. she always seems to want Eli or someone else when they're taken.. yet that's never addressed as to why. 

Right.  Until Lani found out that Eli was with Gabi she never gave him a thought.  She was content being a nun,.

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The show has not been shown much here. Lots of breaking news going on.   The one scene I did catch was Rafe and Steve.  Rafe seemed to have a feeling something was off with Steve.  
 

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