S45.E06: I'm Not Batman, I'm the Canadian

[Whimsy]

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Castaways must roll their way to a win in the immunity challenge, leaving the rest at risk of going home. Then, a comment from day one comes back to haunt one of the castaways.

Original airdate 11/1/23

[Carey]

Pretty wild episode. I'm totally okay with a so-called faux merge before the real thing.

Bruce survives, but maybe that's not a bad thing

[LadyChatts]

Well, I was hoping for a blindside at TC, but that wasn't the blindside I was expecting.  Yay for the SITD finally working, and I'm so happy it saved Kaleb (but dang, Emily really was in a no-win situation and it might have cost her).  I'm still wondering what J Maya did to get such a big target on her back.

I also feel that this isn't going to shift anything off of Kaleb and people perceiving him as a threat, but hopefully next week having more targets will help.  Bruce can't go fast enough for me.  Katurah sure had him pegged.  His attitude of 'no one's coming up and talking to me' and 'Kaleb isn't staying Belo strong!' when Kaleb wasn't even a Belo to begin with...I guess he should be lucky he was on the winning tribe tonight.  I was hoping he'd run out of time to find the idol before the fake merge happened.

Also, Austin needs to cut it out with the stupid sandwich.  Hopefully with J Maya gone that can be done with.  He's not as funny as he thinks.  

One thing I wish they'd change going forward, if they are going to keep the earn the merge, is not letting the winning tribe be a part of the vote.  It's just stupid that literally 6 people out of 13 can be voted for.  I wish they'd get rid of earn the merge anyway.  

[mojoween]

Emily knew Kaleb was going to play his shot in the dark, she had the chance to vote out whoever the fuck she wanted to if it worked.  I mean, she stayed, but the revote was unnecessary drama.

Dee, calm the fuck down.

[Quilt Fairy]

6 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Emily knew Kaleb was going to play his shot in the dark, she had the chance to vote out whoever the fuck she wanted to if it worked.  I mean, she stayed, but the revote was unnecessary drama.

ITA.  Whatever happened to a backup plan? 

[GenerationX]

How should we pad the show 30 minutes this week...relationships? scheming?

Well, the revote will get us 10 minutes.  Let's just scrape another 20 minutes of immunity challenge footage off the floor for the rest.

[dancingdreamer]

Holy moly, what a TC. Finally  shot in the dark worked,  and Kaleb remains in the game. Phew!  I was so worried, he had overplayed his hand. Bruce was right, he has a big smile( personally  I love it) he does flit around  like a butterfly. Hopefully  now, there will be others who are seen as threats.Oh, and Austin, get over that damn sandwich .
I can't  stand Kendra, she pulls those weird faces.

[Vikitty]

Glad my boy Kaleb survived, but yikes. I was worried for Emily during the revote.

[susannot]

OK, I adore Kaleb.  He has got it all:  looks, brains, personality, luck, & game.  I'll give long odds that he will survive longer than his nemesis Bruce.

Also, re Austin and the sandwich--that is as good a reason as any to vote someone out!  I would also resent someone who took food out of my mouth.

Edited November 2, 2023 by susannot

[LadyChatts]

2 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Glad my boy Kaleb survived, but yikes. I was worried for Emily during the revote.

I’m happy Kaleb survived, but if she hadn’t clued him in would he have known it was him?  That would have sucked for her if she went on the re-vote because she would have essentially gotten herself voted off by default.

I thought about how wild it would be if a SITD could be used on a re-vote, and what if J Maya used hers and it worked?  I wonder if they will change that rule going forward since Probst loves maximum chaos at TC.  

[susannot]

I doubt that even Probst would have SITDs work twice in a row but who knows?  Maximum chaos, but CBS requires show to end in 90 minutes.

[Heathrowe]

I like that Austin’s so bitter about the sandwich. 
Not-Boston-Rob guy is really growing on me. 
I’m very attached to Kaleb and Emily. Emily’s so interesting since she bugged me so much episode 1 but now I feel like she’s my eyes into the show. I was very upset when J said Emily and everyone seemed like they would go with it. The unanimous votes tonight for a merging tribe were pretty impressive. I was glad Drew didn’t turn on Emily.

I don’t think I like any of the other women players, other than Emily. Maybe Katurah. My final three would be Emily, Kaleb, and Austin. I like Sifu but he seems a little all over the place.

I would agree with Kaleb that Bruce is playing an old-school game. You need to be the leader no one notices leading in this game, and he’s all listen to me! 
Drew is holding himself back from taking charge but I suspect everyone knows it. His relationships seem very selective. 
The rest of the women don’t seem to have a clear agenda. They don’t seem strong together - and I guess now they are one less. 

[hendersonrocks]

Sifu seems like he’s trying too hard and still getting next to no screen time, while Bruce is going to annoy his way right out of the game. Settle down, my dudes! 
 

Kaleb is so good at this, it will be interesting to see if this gives him a second chance at life or if they’re just going to come right after him again.

I like Julie too. She is mostly invisible, but I like her.

[North of Eden]

Eight minutes. Eight  minutes in Jay was allowed to speak and given a lot to say and immediately I was..."Welp, she's going home"

Then that second revote came up and I was nearly having a heart attack when Emily's name was being floated. If Emily left my interest in the season would immediately drop by 75%-but I DO wish Emily had voted for Jay the first time and she would never be at risk.

In the end though....what had Caleb really bought himself....another week? It's hard to believe they won't simply try again unless someone manages to paint a huge bullseye on their back with a neon sign pointing to it.

In other news, I was really bummed by the way the teams shook out. With the exception of Austin....EVERYONE that I don't like....especially Katura wound up on blue and safe and I would have been very happy with any of them going. A lot of folks seemed to just have a general dislike/lack of connection for Jay that I never really got.

[choclatechip45]

Yay Kaleb's shot in the dark work. I really like him and Emily.

[gesundheit]

I have to say, the fact that it was only Lulu at TC before the tribe mix-up means that I didn't really have enough time to get clear on the original members of the other two tribes. So now all this talk about Reba vs Belo means nothing to me, because I have no idea who was on which tribe. I can't keep the "who knew who and was aligned before" components straight.

I'm with all of you who didn't understand why everyone was so anti-J. Bummed to see her go, but I guess better her than Kaleb, because that moment was a sheer delight.

[mojoween]

The one way to figure out who was on which tribe first is that Reba people are wearing primarily red and Belo are wearing primarily blue.

[Jodithgrace]

And kaleb has that sweatshirt that looks like moldy bread. 
 

As far as shenanigans go, Dalton Ross, who has hung out on the island with the crew, says that standards and practices are right there, making sure that things like the shot in the dark are on the up and up. 
 

Did Emily know that Kaleb was going to play his SITD? She warned him to, but when he “voted,” he called out “J!” as though he were voting for her. But still, I don’t know why she voted for him. Does this end their alliance? 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, mojoween said:

Dee, calm the fuck down.

Every week I become more convinced that Dee is going to murder someone, and I love her for it.

Kellie has very piercing, beautiful eyes.

[Grizzly]

Tonight, he was Batman.

[Quilt Fairy]

The TC reminded me of a scene from the movie Hoosiers:

"I think we should vote again!"

"Call for a RE-VOTE!"

[Lady Calypso]

Honestly, I'm so glad things worked out here for Kaleb AND Emily. I love them both individually AND as a duo, so I would have been disappointed if their journey ended here. It was such a fun and intense Tribal, and I love that Kaleb broke the record for most votes nullified at one single Tribal.

That being said, Kaleb knows now that his time is very limited unless he finds a way to re-integrate fast. He's going to have a very difficult path to get to the end now.  

I get the worry on Kaleb; they all see that he's the type of player who can integrate himself into alliances and get far. Kendra's logic made sense for sure. Bruce, on the other hand, felt like it stemmed more from jealousy at Kaleb's position. I could be wrong, but Bruce seemed to turn on Kaleb when he started figuring out that Kaleb was integrating himself with groups better than Bruce, and people were actively not going to Bruce. It seemed like that was when he started vocalizing his anti-Kaleb tirade. 

I don't think Bruce fully understand how much he's pissing people off. It's good that we're getting more than just Katurah's perspective on Bruce, as well. Bruce demanding that Kaleb don't talk to the Reba tribe is a lot.

Austin's obsession is that goddamn sandwich. 

Dee's obsession was getting out J Maya for some reason. And hey, it worked, so good for her! I love when women take charge of moves, even if I don't fully get why Dee was so insistent on getting J Maya out (as well as Julie pushing for it).

Drew's obsession is to be a strategic mastermind. Which, by the way, he is not, or else he'd realize that the social game is VERY important, more important than him planning out his next few moves, or whatever.

Kendra's obsession is probably destroying all of Lulu. Speaking of Kendra, I get her feeling betrayed by Emily but Kendra seems blind to the fact that Emily's been on the outs and there was no good option for her. Holding this against her for the rest of the game is going to be annoying. It's not like Kendra/Emily were close allies since day 1. They just got to know each other the past couple of days. Emily was going to piss off someone, no matter what. It would be horrible gameplay for Kendra to use this revenge arc on Emily. It's such a small thing to hold against Emily, and it's not like Kendra was close to Brando to begin with.  

 I am interested to see how things shift now that they've merged.

[Chicago Redshirt]

4 minutes ago, Grizzly said:

Tonight, he was Batman.

I kept on wanting to attribute lines by or about Batman to Kaleb like...

"Survivors are a cowardly and superstitious lot" 

"I am vengeance! I am the night!"

With enough prep time, Kaleb can outwit, outlast and outplay anybody.

[Chicago Redshirt]

1 hour ago, mojoween said:

Emily knew Kaleb was going to play his shot in the dark, she had the chance to vote out whoever the fuck she wanted to if it worked.  I mean, she stayed, but the revote was unnecessary drama.

The math on the SITD is not very  good. There's an 83 percent chance of it failing. If she writes down J (or whoever) and the SITD fails, Emily now makes it clear that she is not with either faction and calls attention to herself. Not that she would be long for this world without Kaleb IMO anyway, but being on the outs for the vote would probably accelerate matters. 

[mertensia]

Okay, I am a bad person. I was hugely amused by everyone but Katurah being plastered in mud at the reward.

[dizzyd]

44 minutes ago, North of Eden said:

In the end though....what had Caleb really bought himself....another week?

But he can go on an immunity run now. I’m so glad he survived because he’s my favorite. I also like Kellie. 
 

In the moment I was “why Emily!” but I can see why she voted with everyone because a SITD is exactly it’s name, it’s probably worked 10% of the time it’s been played so likelihood was Kaleb would be voted out and then she’d be stuck having to explain to everyone why she reneged on her word. 
 

J’s downfall was not voting out Sifu 2 weeks ago. Kaleb is right, she’s smart and good at strategy and she knew her path to the end involved eliminating the physical players so she formed the 3 Reba women’s alliance but then instead of going with the plan, she changed her vote and became Sifu’s target. Not that I wanted him gone over dumdum #3 Sean, Sifu is entertaining. 
 

I’m also cool with sandwich gate. Austin keeps joking about being deprived of his meal but taking J out also strengthened his advantage and now he’s 1 step away from it becoming an idol. As opposed to the one that was handed to Bruce on a silver platter 🙄😒 I will be delighted if they send him home with it in his pocket. 
 

Such a better episode after eliminating the dead weight.

[TVFan1]

I must be in the minority, but I don't care for Kaleb.  I don't mind Emily.

As was mentioned, the players that win immunity at this "earn the merge" should not be able to vote. It's unfair to the losing 6 players that are vulnerable. Since there are 2 teams, the tribe that wins stays at camp while the losing tribe goes to tribal only where they vote, not everyone.

J. Maya is another player voted out that I don't know much about. She's a singer, does yoga, and had an alliance with the Reba women Dee and Julia. Other than that, nothing. 

Bruce can go anytime. He gets on my nerves every episode. Too bad he has an idol, maybe he won't use it when everyone else votes him off. 

As I will say every week until they are gone, still can't stand Drew and Austin. They need to get off my screen too.

Good episode overall though.

[LadyChatts]

1 hour ago, tracyscott76 said:

Every week I become more convinced that Dee is going to murder someone, and I love her for it.

Kellie has very piercing, beautiful eyes.

At TC, when Kaleb was talking about who he believed was the biggest threat (J) and Dee challenged him to point to another threat, and he wouldn't...the look on her face, I couldn't tell if she was genuinely annoyed at him or pulling off one heck of an acting job to not spook J Maya.  I love her.  Honestly, I'm glad we are getting outspoken women who are actually aware of the game around them and also making moves (even if they don't always get the credit in the end for it).

1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

Drew's obsession is to be a strategic mastermind. Which, by the way, he is not, or else he'd realize that the social game is VERY important, more important than him planning out his next few moves, or whatever.

This is what I'm not getting with Drew.  Now I absolutely hate winners that win mainly or solely on social game.  But I get it is a strategy, and someone like Drew that likes to think he's the smartest person out there should know that it is going to count for something in jury votes.  Right now Austin has him beat there.  In addition, I feel that Drew talks down to those he isn't aligned with or finds inferior, which is something else he might struggle with in making a jury argument.  Finally, if he goes to the end with Austin, they are going to have the same resume (for now) so it will come down to who the jury wants to give credit to for the moves.  And this will tie back to social game, so it will likely be Austin.

Edited November 2, 2023 by LadyChatts

[Lantern7]

Wow. Hell of an episode. If Kaleb doesn't win, I'm thinking he gets heavily into the lottery, because he got so lucky on Shot In The Dark. What were the odds that he could have been safe? I can't keep track of Probst's "improvements."

Yeah, a lot of the more irritating people wound up safe. Bruce is a "little much" where I emphasize with Katurah, and Sifu leans into his gimmick too hard. Like I said in the live thread, I bet he runs with his arms behind him, like Naruto. I'm beginning to see the disdain for Kendra as well, though she hasn't really worked my nerves.

A puzzle on a puzzle. I believe we're in the glory days of the Dream Team in terms of setting up challenges. Truly.

1 hour ago, Grizzly said:

Tonight, he was Batman.

59 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

I kept on wanting to attribute lines by or about Batman to Kaleb like...

"Survivors are a cowardly and superstitious lot" 

"I am vengeance! I am the night!"

With enough prep time, Kaleb can outwit, outlast and outplay anybody.

Here's hoping. He will have walked out of the wreckage of the original Lulu tribe and played Shot In The Dark successfully. That's enough for an underdog edit. Emily has calmed down somewhat since the first day, but she hasn't endured being on the receiving end to vote her out. Speaking of which . . . why did she vote for Kaleb? She almost bumped herself off doing that. Good thing J.Maya became to secondary target . . . for reasons that elude me.

1 hour ago, Jodithgrace said:

As far as shenanigans go, Dalton Ross, who has hung out on the island with the crew, says that standards and practices are right there, making sure that things like the shot in the dark are on the up and up.

Is it acceptable for me to have a little doubt that Probst didn't pull a "SAFE" parchment from his sleeve? Kaleb doesn't seem like a dude Probst would safe (Bruce and Bargain Rob being the obvious suspects, but eleven votes wound up getting negated.

[Cotypubby]

Kendra can cool it with her over the top facial reactions to everything and her general insanity around camp. I don’t know how anyone can stand being near her for more than 5 mins.

[Skooma]

2 hours ago, Heathrowe said:

I like that Austin’s so bitter about the sandwich.

He really isn't.  Just playing to the camera for laughs.  He said the real reason.  With J Maya out his "thingie" becomes more powerful as does the second one one of the women has though I forget who.

2 hours ago, North of Eden said:

In the end though....what had Caleb really bought himself....another week? It's hard to believe they won't simply try again unless someone manages to paint a huge bullseye on their back with a neon sign pointing to it.

Someone will.  They always seem to.  Bigger fish to fry etc as red and blue face off.  There was only 6 to choose from this episode.  Next week there will be 12 to choose from and Bruce's edit is rising in intensity and Kaleb spilled the beans that Bruce has an idol.  I don't read spoilers, just saying the edits have built up Kaleb so much as the hero and Bruce as the braggart there must be a reason for the edits they are getting.

1 hour ago, Jodithgrace said:

As far as shenanigans go, Dalton Ross, who has hung out on the island with the crew, says that standards and practices are right there, making sure that things like the shot in the dark are on the up and up.

Thanks!

7 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Is it acceptable for me to have a little doubt that Probst didn't pull a "SAFE" parchment from his sleeve?

Not according to Jodithgrace's post above.  Also it seemed pretty clear in the video that Probst read the SITD paper Kaleb handed him.

[princelina]

2 hours ago, North of Eden said:

In the end though....what had Caleb really bought himself....another week? It's hard to believe they won't simply try again unless someone manages to paint a huge bullseye on their back with a neon sign pointing to it.

I'm pretty sure the Survivor maxim is to make it to the next vote - and quite often that's all it takes, and someone new is on the chopping block next week.  Plus in this case he has bought himself a jury seat at least, hasn't he?

2 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

Did Emily know that Kaleb was going to play his SITD? She warned him to, but when he “voted,” he called out “J!” as though he were voting for her. But still, I don’t know why she voted for him. Does this end their alliance? 

I don't think it does because she gave him all of the warnings.  She said herself that if he was going she couldn't afford to alienate the others.  I hope he is understanding of this because I like them as a team.

1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

I get the worry on Kaleb; they all see that he's the type of player who can integrate himself into alliances and get far. Kendra's logic made sense for sure. Bruce, on the other hand, felt like it stemmed more from jealousy at Kaleb's position. I could be wrong, but Bruce seemed to turn on Kaleb when he started figuring out that Kaleb was integrating himself with groups better than Bruce, and people were actively not going to Bruce. It seemed like that was when he started vocalizing his anti-Kaleb tirade. 

I don't think you're wrong at all!  Mr. P and I were noticing that Kaleb was "talking to people" while Bruce was upset that "no one is talking to me" - like he's the king who should be approached.  But it's not like Kaleb was the other king whom everyone was approaching!  Bruce could have talked to people too; he seems to have an odd idea of his position in the game.  

Austin and his sandwich:  do you remember right before that they were all starving and fantasizing about what they'd like to eat and Austin's idea was sushi? I'm sorry but if you're starving you should fantasize about something better -  IMO that's why he deserved to lose that sandwich 😄

Edited November 2, 2023 by princelina

[Chicago Redshirt]

Re: Kaleb and Batman, I am ashamed it took me this long to come with...

Kaleb: The Shot in the Dark Knight! :)

[Andyourlittledog2]

Does anyone else think the music at TC has gotten completely out of hand?  I could  barely hear the talking the music was so loud. And get off my lawn!

Honestly, I don't know what J Maya did initially but the things people were saying about her were about being sneaky, untrustworthy, stuff like that. And Dee, one of her original alliance, was right in there with the criticism. I think Julie was too but we've spent so little time with Belo and Reba that I am not sure I have everyone sorted out yet and it might have been a different woman who was talking to Dee about J.

Whatever it is, what I've seen of J Maya I don't really like so I was glad to see her gone. I just find her offputting and pushy.

[Fake Jan Brady]

I'm beginning to think that Dee now fully believes that Jay did write Sifu's name down. 🤷‍♂️

[DEL901]

So who else was flabbergasted but not shocked when Bruce referred to himself as a celebrity since he had been on tv before?   He really is delusional….like when he complained no one was coming to talk to him…it does work both ways.  He could go talk to them.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, TVFan1 said:

I must be in the minority, but I don't care for Kaleb.  I don't mind Emily.

I like Kaleb generally, and I get that he was making a much-needed Hail Mary with openly targeting J at Tribal, but I thought him yelling out "J!" when he was in the voting booth was a bit much. Yeah he was kind of joking, but it seemed gratuitous. In that moment I briefly flickered toward wanting him gone over her.

[violet and green]

6 hours ago, Skooma said:

He really isn't.  Just playing to the camera for laughs.  He said the real reason.  With J Maya out his "thingie" becomes more powerful as does the second one one of the women has though I forget who.

The second one is Kelly with the amazing blue eyes. They were a sort of luminous turquoise in one scene tonight. (Mind you, I do have a very special tv...)

That was exciting. So glad Caleb lucked out and also pleased J is gone, after her earlier attempts to target Sifu who I find adorable, and also that Austen gets his sandwich revenge.

 

[JudyObscure]

5 hours ago, Andyourlittledog2 said:

Does anyone else think the music at TC has gotten completely out of hand?  I could  barely hear the talking the music was so loud. And get off my lawn!

 

 

It was so bad last night,  I was struggling to hear through the entire show.  It would be bad enough if it was natural noises from the surf, but it's the show's own sound track made up of ridiculous "jungle" noises, men shouting, and garbage cans banging together. It's stupid, just stop it!

I'm also ready to tell Kendra that it's stupid, just stop it. Did she say she was "living in Karma."  What now? 

I'm enjoying Kaleb and Emily, but my favorite is Katurah. Why does everyone shun her?  Is it just because they, inexplicably, love Bruce? I find her so lovely, both in looks and personality.

[cowgirlwen]

5 hours ago, Andyourlittledog2 said:

Does anyone else think the music at TC has gotten completely out of hand?  I could  barely hear the talking the music was so loud. And get off my lawn!

OMG Yes!!!  And not just at TC.  The entire episode has so much background "music" and noise, I cannot hear the conversations most of the time.  And my husband is hard of hearing, so it's especially tough for him.  I just don't get why they think that enhances the show in any way!

 

[Haleth]

Slow clap for Kaleb.  Well played, my friend.  Well played.

After the first couple episodes I never would have believed I'd be worried about Emily getting voted out, but there we are.  I haven't wanted a duo like Kaleb and Emily to make it to the end so much in years.  

Emily had no choice but to go along with the crowd.  Voting for J (Jay?) on the hopes that Kaleb would win the SITD would have been foolish.  Hopefully Kaleb understood this and didn't hold it against her.

[weaver]

Wow, close one.  If not for Kaleb and Emily I wouldn't be watching.  I like Austin too.  Drew

The third person with an amulet is Kellie.  She is promising.  Id like to hear more from her.

[JudyObscure]

I don't want Emily voted out either, she's very interesting to watch and her behavior has certainly improved since Kaleb told her how important it was to act nicer.  But I don't forget the "act" part and that underneath it is still the woman who said very critical things followed by a proud, "that's just me being honest."

[Chicago Redshirt]

8 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Wow. Hell of an episode. If Kaleb doesn't win, I'm thinking he gets heavily into the lottery, because he got so lucky on Shot In The Dark. What were the odds that he could have been safe? I can't keep track of Probst's "improvements."

....

Here's hoping. He will have walked out of the wreckage of the original Lulu tribe and played Shot In The Dark successfully. That's enough for an underdog edit. Emily has calmed down somewhat since the first day, but she hasn't endured being on the receiving end to vote her out. Speaking of which . . . why did she vote for Kaleb? She almost bumped herself off doing that. Good thing J.Maya became to secondary target . . . for reasons that elude me.

Is it acceptable for me to have a little doubt that Probst didn't pull a "SAFE" parchment from his sleeve? Kaleb doesn't seem like a dude Probst would safe (Bruce and Bargain Rob being the obvious suspects, but eleven votes wound up getting negated.

There are supposedly 5 "Not safe" and 1 "Safe" parchments in the bag for a contestant to choose from. So there was a roughly 17 percent chance of Kaleb being safe, 83 percent chance of him not being safe. 

For Emily's own game, she had to do what was best for her. And in this case, it's voting Kaleb. As she said in one of her THs, voting against the majority puts a target on her back. Pushing too hard for Kaleb puts a target on her back. By saying "sure I'm down with voting Kaleb" to whoever asks her and actually following through and doing it. she shows that she's a potential ally to them, or at least a number worth keeping around for the short term.  If she had voted not-Kaleb, it would have stood out and likely made her the focus for a vote shortly thereafter. She outs herself as being untrustworthy and in the 13 percent chance that Kaleb hits his Shot in the Dark, they are outed as a duo. Now she is in a position where she can be like "I want nothing to do with Kaleb" to everyone else but privately be like "You're my No. 1" to Kaleb if she wants to.

Sifu targeted J because she foolishly made him think that she was the one who wrote his name down even when Sean was quitting and voting anyone but him made little sense. Austin and Kelly should want to target J because they were the three amulet holders, and getting J out increases the power of the remaining amulets from "extra vote if all three agree" to "steal a vote if two agree." (I wonder who needs to watch their back more, Austin or Kelly, because now there's an incentive to be the last one standing and have it as an immunity idol). Drew targeted J presumably because he's allies with Austin and knows that getting J out helps with increasing the amulet power. Dee and Julie were fine with getting J out in general even before the quasi-merge; we saw that they were talking about actually voting her out back in their old tribe. Any others can be explained by the whispering campaign against J that took place before the revote. 

Yes, I don't think it's too tinfoil-hatty to think that there are ways to rig the Shot In The Dark that whatever Standards and Practices person might not catch. Or even to think that whatever oversight person might be...persuaded to look the other way. I will choose to take it on face value though that Kaleb just was lucky enough to beat the odds.

[AntFTW]

Was this the first time a Shot in the Dark resulted in someone being safe? I don’t recall any previous SITDs that did.

[Nashville]

11 hours ago, gesundheit said:

I'm with all of you who didn't understand why everyone was so anti-J. Bummed to see her go, but I guess better her than Kaleb, because that moment was a sheer delight.

Actually, J being on the outs was telegraphed somewhat at the beginning of  the previous episode - when stfu was grilling the others over who threw a vote at him:

• Dee: “I wrote down Sean’s name.”
• Julie: “I totally voted for Sean.“
• J: <buries face in arms>

Almost certainly purely editing, I’m sure, and in actuality it may have been J taking one for the team - because even if (as the women were trying to play off) Sean had written stfu’s name down, somebody else had to have thrown a vote Dee’s way - the scene still emphasized J being tagged as odd person out.

 

11 minutes ago, AntFTW said:

Was this the first time a Shot in the Dark resulted in someone being safe? I don’t recall any previous SITDs that did.

Second time - the first was last season.

[AntFTW]

I'll give a round of applause to whoever did the politics right, which seems to be Bruce. Getting a unanimous vote is quite a political feat and Kaleb's luck kicked in at the right time.

Edited November 2, 2023 by AntFTW

[SnapHappy]

13 hours ago, mojoween said:

Dee, calm the fuck down.

I was saying "Kendra, calm the fuck down".   And "Austin, shut the fuck up about the sandwich". 

I'm waiting for the ego clash between Bruce & Sifu.  It's got to happen, as "Celebrity" Bruce and Sensei Sifu are both so Alpha Male, it's painful.  And I hope it's going to be really ugly. 

[iMonrey]

12 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

That being said, Kaleb knows now that his time is very limited unless he finds a way to re-integrate fast. He's going to have a very difficult path to get to the end now.  

I'm not so sure. The difference is that there were only six people to choose from. Next week anyone is up for grabs. Kaleb may have been an obvious target out of those six but going forward there may be bigger targets. And Kaleb has already managed to form strong alliances. That said, the target on his back is certainly larger now than before.

12 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

As far as shenanigans go, Dalton Ross, who has hung out on the island with the crew, says that standards and practices are right there, making sure that things like the shot in the dark are on the up and up. 

Sure, sure they are. Hey, I've got some swampland in Florida I'd love to sell to anyone interested.

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1 hour ago, AntFTW said:

Was this the first time a Shot in the Dark resulted in someone being safe? I don’t recall any previous SITDs that did.

Jamie Ruiz in 44 got a safe one.