S11.E16: Threats and Promises

[islandgal140]

15 hours ago, Cupcake04 said:

hahahaha now he had eye surgery and rolled his car 5x???  LOL

Tom's driving record is as bad as SNL's classic Toonces the driving cat

Edited September 9, 2021 by islandgal140

[bkathi]

9 hours ago, gatopretoNYC said:

Kyle's never heard of conch? I know that bitch has been to the Caribbean.

This is a woman who orders margaritas in France.  

[Dutchgirl]

7 hours ago, film noire said:

Maya Angelou be like "When people tell you who they are, believe them. She has 'Cunty' advertised in neon on her NECK. Hello."

[Cosmocrush]

12 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

I get anxiety when I see Sutton shopping...like when I find out my grandma went to Best Buy alone. Christ, what did they talk her into. Hope she kept the receipt for that orange beaded number. 

OMG, coffee just came out my nose!  You made my morning @Dutchgirl! 👏

[pasdetrois]

Attorneys have all kinds of access to data that the public cannot get.

Does Erika dip into that data, using Tom's access credentials? Or get someone else to do it for her?

I have a feeling she would stoop to this level. She may have more dirt on her Bravo colleagues than they realize. I can see her researching the dirt when she considered being on the show, for example.

By "dirt," I mean credit histories, liens, bankruptcies, settlements, etc.

Edited September 10, 2021 by pasdetrois

[Ms Blue Jay]

9 minutes ago, bkathi said:

This is a woman who orders margaritas in France.  

She also ordered sushi in Italy 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[Cosmocrush]

16 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“I’ve never seen a worse response to what’s going on.”

On the nose PK!  And he should know.  Look how long he's been living the high life with no visible means of income, lol.  

That said, I've always kind of liked PK the doughboy.  He seems like fun.  I honestly wanted to hear Dorit's story about them meeting but then Kyle had a point that it might continue through to dessert 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[Dutchgirl]

6 hours ago, Cupcake04 said:

Who TF is Sutton to be questioning Erika? 

 

6 hours ago, Cupcake04 said:

Huh?  

Who do you have to be to question a retired stripper turned gold digger turned embezzler?

 

[oakville]

15 hours ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

And conch chowder!

Key West, does LaTeDa still have that French onion dip at The Terrace Bar?

🤤🤤🤤 

Yes! I ate conch every day when I visited the Bahamas.

[janiema]

5 minutes ago, oakville said:

Yes! I ate conch every day when I visited the Bahamas.

Rinna’s visited the Bahamas too!

[Pondlass1]

I know one thing, I’d never ever share my thoughts with Vile Kyle about anyone or anything otherwise I’d be obligated to repeat it all at the expense of appearing two faced. 

[njbchlover]

12 minutes ago, janiema said:

Rinna’s visited the Bahamas too!

But she doesn't eat.....fish (or, well, anything, it seems)!!   

[blixie]

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Also, conch is a practically a staple in Florida restaurants

It is literally on the Bahama Breeze menu! I mean I think it's fine to not like something generally but Rinna made some extra shitty comment about the food not being what she's used to (sure cause it's.....food) which was clearly a comment about the ethnicity and spices of the food. Christ these women. She's making me retroactively hate her Billie from Days, and I liked her Billie!

[izabella]

4 hours ago, blixie said:

I agree but then, what's Crystal's excuse? I will say I am really looking forward to the reunion where all these women backtrack like a mofo, but that assumes Andy isn't in Erika's hip catsuit pocket. Asshole.

I'm afraid they will coddle Erika at the reunion, just as they have been so far.  I think they will pile on Sutton at the reunion, and defend Erika the entire time. 

2 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

 

It looked to me like Crystal, in her bubble on the show, sees Erika as the winning side so chimed in to say she admired how she defended herself, since that's what most of the women are saying. So this was a time when it seemed like she and Sutton got tested and Crystal failed by siding with power without really caring about the truth and Sutton passed with flying colors by refusing to apologize for Erika being a bad liar.

When she announced her divorce she claimed all those years she was saying they had a great marriage and Tom was nice to her, that she was actually miserable, trying to make money to get away from him but couldn't, that he was cold and not supportive etc. So her whole storyline was that everything she'd led everyone to believe about her life wasn't true.

And nobody would hold that against her if she was just really in an abusive relationship and too afraid or ashamed to admit it, but she can't say that, then follow it up with saying that the time she said her husband had a minor car accident and broke his ankle and was acting like a baby about it she was actually covering up major head trauma and a coma that would make it impossible to act like anything--and then pretend her honor has been besmirched when someone points out that sometimes Erika says things--like for years--and then claims they weren't true. 

Erika also lied about Tom's affairs, on camera.  She told Garcelle she had no knowledge of Tom cheating.  Then she told the group that she found out Tom was cheating back when Yolanda left David for cheating, and she picked up Tom's phone and saw the evidence.  At least one of those statements isn't true, and probably both.

[izabella]

55 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

I know one thing, I’d never ever share my thoughts with Vile Kyle about anyone or anything otherwise I’d be obligated to repeat it all at the expense of appearing two faced. 

Even when you repeated it all, she would still call you two-faced and yell at you to be honest because that's the narrative she is pushing.

[kristen111]

17 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

This ‘bay-bee’ and Buh-Buh stuff is nauseating. That’s a lot of food for two people. I hate saying this but PK is making some sense. 

Bay bee, buh buh, sweet pea, love bug.  GTFOOH.  She’s thinking she’s British.  You were in Connecticut, near NY, we don’t talk like that.  Pretentious fool.

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

I know one thing, I’d never ever share my thoughts with Vile Kyle about anyone or anything otherwise I’d be obligated to repeat it all at the expense of appearing two faced. 

Verbatim.  And god forbid you don't use the right inflection.

 

[Double A]

13 hours ago, izabella said:

13 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

 

 

I imagine that low, threatening voice and the grimaces she uses when she goes batshit on someone is something she learned during her stripping or waitressing days when a customer went too far.  It finally clicked for me that's what it seemed like.

Totally. Except I imagined her on the show P Valley threatening another girl for taking her tricks.

[janiema]

44 minutes ago, izabella said:

I'm afraid they will coddle Erika at the reunion, just as they have been so far.  I think they will pile on Sutton at the reunion, and defend Erika the entire time. 

Erika also lied about Tom's affairs, on camera.  She told Garcelle she had no knowledge of Tom cheating.  Then she told the group that she found out Tom was cheating back when Yolanda left David for cheating, and she picked up Tom's phone and saw the evidence.  At least one of those statements isn't true, and probably both.

Yes. Do we actually know that Tom had affairs or is that just part of her story?

Also, is anything happening with their divorce? She filed 10 months ago.

[gingerella]

7 hours ago, JenE4 said:

If a car flips over 6 times going over a cliff behind a house and no one’s there to see it, did it really happen? Seriously, how would Erika possibly know it flipped 6 times if the only person there was unconscious for 12 hours? 

She knows because he called her, probably right before it flipped so he was able to tell her in real time how many times he was flipping, yanno, before he went into his 12 hour coma...

4 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Kyle scares me.  The levels of manipulation in every single thing she does.  Who has that kind of mental energy to spend on manipulating people?  I can't believe how much effort she puts into it.  She's constantly planning how to try and make Sutton and Garcelle look bad.  

Kyle has no life. Her entire existence now is shopping for expensive shit so she can keep up with the Suttons (ie: Cartier Panther ring, which is not chump change), and stirring the pot like it's god's work.

Edited September 9, 2021 by gingerella

[JonnieUniteUs]

5 hours ago, blixie said:

I agree but then, what's Crystal's excuse? 

Crystal seems to be trying to make a name for herself because fame, infamy and recognition of whom someone is (🙄) seem to be very important to her.🙄🙄

That, and the fact that she is a proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

 

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by JonnieUniteUs

[Cosmocrush]

11 hours ago, gingerella said:

So, how could Erika threaten - sorry PROMISE - that Tom would sue Sutton for talking shit about Erika if Tom has, yanno, dementia and doesn't know what's going on, on account of his car accident where he rolled his car and then was thrown from the car while also crawling out of the car while also calling Erika for help but also laying in a coma for 12 hours? I'm just sorta curious about that...

Which is what someone at the table should have said!

[JonnieUniteUs]

3 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Tom's driving record is as bad as SNL's classic Toonces the driving cat

maybe Tom’s nick is “Toomces”

[Yours Truly]

19 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Well my opinioin of Crystal has turned 180 degrees. The worm has turned and she is a worm. She wants so badly to be with the mean girls. Ugh I hate this. Maybe what she said about her husband and me too will come back to haunt her.  I despise people like Crystal. 

Pegged it! 💁🏻‍♀️ Fucking mean girl wanna be popular girl.. How do you condone a grown woman threatening another grown woman at the dinner table. Acting like it ain’t no thing for someone to be so damn vicious at the dinner table. Please!! 🙄

[blixie]

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Do we actually know that Tom had affairs or is that just part of her story?

I really don't think he had any, but eh, I also don't care because whatever their arrangement was almost certainly fidelity wasn't required on either side. Probably discretion was required on hers, but other than than he could do what he wanted with who he wanted. This is another piece of her wanting to play both sides, of being happy and relatively equal partners in her 20 year marriage with no cheating at all, or she's the innocent naif stooged by a cruel and controlling man who cheated on her god knows for how long or how much. 

[Dutchgirl]

8 hours ago, JenE4 said:

If a car flips over 6 times going over a cliff behind a house and no one’s there to see it, did it really happen? Seriously, how would Erika possibly know it flipped 6 times if the only person there was unconscious for 12 hours? 

Unfair. You know how bad Tom and Erika are at math.

[RealHousewife]

6 hours ago, Lassus said:

I can't even manage to read through everything, but did anyone else notice Rinna saying to Garcelle "Well, sure I attacked you and then didn't defend you, but you only thanked me once for the sauce, so, BOTH SIDES, see?  We both have issues."

Garcelle has endless patience with Rinna and Dorit. 

[Bossa Nova]

15 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I’m about to really lose my s- - - on all of you- -

Don’t do it. Nope.

Hahahahaha!

DO IT, ERIKA. 

LOSE IT HONEY, ON NATIONAL TV. 

 Another threat.

 

[Dutchgirl]

3 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

DO IT, ERIKA. 

LOSE IT HONEY, ON NATIONAL TV. 

 Another threat.

 

She already lost everything...or hid it. Jury's out.

[TheCouchPotato]

Who is in favor of getting rid of everyone aside from Sutton, Garcelle, and Kathy? I just can’t with the rest of them. 

[Dutchgirl]

Flashback of Erika heading into Garcelle's dinner

 

[J80134]

Erika Disdain- thigh high boots aren't pants ya skank. 

Lips TH  - bright orange dress,  bright orange eyeshadow...and right in the middle a clashing bubble gum pink baboon ass. The camera folks must have been struggling to hold in thier laughter.

Vyles advice to Sutton was to go head to head with disdain, because anything less is weak...and vyle wants to be the only weak bitch in the bunch. 

I don't think we'll be seeing Lil Kathy next season. She's had enough of these souffle wasters.

Rinna understands conveniently timed memory loss...making it easy to support the hustler and the howife.

Doritos outfit for munchies with PK reminded me of these polyester pants/dress outfits my grandma wore to work in the winter because it was so cold in ND. She'd be so happy to know the look is now worn in BH.

I can't wait for Stoner Mo and Bubba's dinner with the wives next week. Gentlemen...commence with the straight talk. 

 

 

[thesupremediva1]

Erika crossed many lines last night. Viciously teething at someone like Mike Tyson is not ok. This is what? The fourth time she's done this? First Eileen, then Teddi, then Garcelle, now Sutton. When will the coven put her in her place? Why is this behavior ok?

I'm disgusted with all of them even more than Erika. We all know what Erika is. It's well-documented. Why do they allow it? Why the fuck didn't Kathy Hilton tell Erika to take her threats, promises, and spittle out the damn door? Condoning this behavior is despicable.

Thank God Garcelle has some sense.

Crystal is still hanging on to beef with Sutton, and using this situation to beat up on her by proxy. In the process, she's aligning herself with a horrid human being.

Sutton didn't back down and she was not intimidated. She attempted to have an adult conversation with Erika. Erika declined. That's IT. You don't just get to scream at and word-vomit on someone who has made clear they do not want to talk to you. Erika declined the conversation; Sutton took the social cue and disengaged. That was appropriate. The problem was that Rinna and Kyle don't have the balls to be straight with Erika, so they sent Sacrificial Lamb Sutton in to do their dirty work. 

As hostess, Kathy should have put a stop to Kyle's antics like they did with Dorit. Then, once Erika's fangs were activated like a busted True Blood extra, Kathy should have had the butler buttle her bubble butt right out the damn door. 

I can see why Sutton was too in shock to respond properly. It's NOT normal to encounter that kind of viciousness in a large group and have NO ONE really try to put a stop to it. Even Garcelle should have said more in the moment.

Lawd help me when Dorit was the only one willing to point out to Mistress of the Dark that making such threats is exactly why Sutton wanted to consult a lawyer in the first place.

Also, Sutton simply pointed out she didn't believe ALL of Erika's stories. She was honest about it, to the group and Erika. She didn't make any bombshell allegations about Erika. She owes zero apologies... especially to Kyle. Kyle didn't act like a friend and I was screaming at my TV when Sutton apologized to her. Blech. Kyle becoming like Bethenny and I'm NOT here for it.

Newsflash, harpies: You can call someone a liar and make your views clear WITHOUT screaming at them like a shrew. All Sutton did was keep it classy. Guess they couldn't possibly recognize that.

The anger belongs squarely on Kyle for that dinner debacle. She engineered it right in the open. By the way, it is NOT weak or cowardly to remove yourself from the path of a human tornado psychopath. When someone's teeth are in my face, I walk away. Especially when 6 other women are watching and condoning it. No one deserves or should allow themselves to be subjected to that kind of abuse and disrespect. You pull a Meredith Marks, calmly get up, and disengage. It demonstrates self-respect. 

Now kids, let's pull out our history books,  because after the last two seasons I didn't threaten - I promised - that I'd come for these women if they pulled their coven act again. And I'm here to deliver:

2019: LVP, after recently losing her brother to suicide, is mercilessly beat up on by this group for... outing a dog-dumper. They are CERTAIN she planted the story and refuse to believe anything she says. In the process of shouting for "truth," they SIDE with a woman who DUMPED A DEFENSELESS DOG. Kyle literally walks into her bff's home for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of calling her a liar, and that was cool, but Sutton saying she thinks Erika lied to the group about a few things? Worthy of bussing and allowing Erika to verbally abuse her. Got it. 

2020: Denise was publicly, relentlessly accosted at every meal last season because the Vacant Parasite reappeared and decided she wanted more camera time. An alleged sexual encounter, which could have ruined Denise's marriage and family and affected exactly ZERO of her co-stars, was worthy of trying to destroy Denise now matter how many times she UNEQUIVOCALLY denied it. They just all  believed she was lying, so nothing was off limits. They called her a liar every fucking day, and she never threatened them or nearly bit their faces off. Bravo Bravo Bravo reminds me of simpler days.

2021: Erika is embroiled in a massive fraud case involving stolen funds that were meant for widows, orphans, burn victims, and plane crash survivors. She rewrites the last 3 years of Tom's medical history, the last decade of their marriage, presents new medical issues on his behalf, offers proof of a mean man with a mistress, then advocates for a demented old man who just doesn't know better, has money, doesn't have money, doesn't know how to use a bank card after 30 years of living as a middle-class worker, never mentions the victims, knew what she was doing when she left, had no choice, wants to talk about it, can't talk about, won't let anyone else talk about it... and one person pointing out her stories aren't straight is just too much. Bitch please.

As Bethenny always said, you can't play smart and stupid at the same time. The fact that everyone is so afraid of her and refuses to question her, and won't stand up to her when she behaves like a savage, are just too much for me. Contrast this with what went on over in NJ 8 years ago, and the fucking hypocrisy is stunning. They had Tre in jail for decades... but add several tens of millions and a lear jet, and we just have to sit tight and let Erika Jayne tell her story. FUCK THAT.

Fuck me, PK reading the situation to Dorit makes me want to hug him. Amazing that it will be the husbands holding the purse strings who ultimately tell these cows to pull their public support of EJ. 

Their collective stupidity, on display for the last three years, is shocking. They are not only tone-deaf but dumb as stumps. I include Cystal in this. She made me want to skip the season, but I dislike Erika more than I dislike her, so I stayed. 

[NoWhammies]

10 hours ago, JenE4 said:

If a car flips over 6 times going over a cliff behind a house and no one’s there to see it, did it really happen? Seriously, how would Erika possibly know it flipped 6 times if the only person there was unconscious for 12 hours? 

Car A is traveling at 25 mph along 6% slope switchbacks. There are 7 switchbacks. Bitch B is at home reading text from her husband's lover on his cellphone at a rate of 5 texts per minute. Crook C somehow flips Car A 6 times down a hill where he is unconscious, bleeding, and pantsless (Idk why - but in this equation, I keep seeing him pantsless) for 12 hours at the bottom of a 500-foot cliff with a 90% slope and 16 tree stumps, 2 boulders, and a prairie dog. After 12 hours, Crook C wakes, calls Bitch B using the cellphone she is reading texts on. Given the data in this story problem, solve for Bitch B and how much of Crook C's ill-gotten gains she may or may not have received using common core math. Show your work. 

[NoWhammies]

7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Well the first big one that is making EVERYONE confused is Tom and his accident .. she changed the story 10 times now ... Now hes gonna be in a car that flipped 6 times ... You cant say oh what I told you the first time didn't really happen without admitting you lied the first time ...she is gonna be raked across the coals in court being on tape changing her story so often it will show the Jury she is untrustworthy

Careful now. Tom is reading this forum, as is Erika. And they are coming for you. That's not a threat. It's a promise. 🙄

[LemonSoda]

7 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Kyle scares me.  The levels of manipulation in every single thing she does.  Who has that kind of mental energy to spend on manipulating people?  I can't believe how much effort she puts into it.  She's constantly planning how to try and make Sutton and Garcelle look bad.  

It’s terrifying in different ways. I’ve never understood how someone with such a blessed life, surrounded by so much goodness can be so VILE, manipulative and full on school yard bully. It’s like, What is wrong with you? WHY? 

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, LemonSoda said:

It’s terrifying in different ways. I’ve never understood how someone with such a blessed life, surrounded by so much goodness can be so VILE, manipulative and full on school yard bully. It’s like, What is wrong with you? WHY? 

Seriously! Kyle is beautiful, has a handsome husband, four darling kids, and a TON of money. I don't know if she's nicer in real life or doesn't understand how bad some of her behavior is, but sometimes I wonder how she has such a blessed life when she's not the nicest. 

[izabella]

34 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

2019: LVP, after recently losing her brother to suicide, is mercilessly beat up on by this group for... outing a dog-dumper. They are CERTAIN she planted the story and refuse to believe anything she says. In the process of shouting for "truth," they SIDE with a woman who DUMPED A DEFENSELESS DOG. Kyle literally walks into her bff's home for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of calling her a liar, and that was cool, but Sutton saying she thinks Erika lied to the group about a few things? Worthy of bussing and allowing Erika to verbally abuse her. Got it. 

And remember, we started off the series with this.

 

 

[sistermagpie]

1 minute ago, RealHousewife said:

Seriously! Kyle is beautiful, has a handsome husband, four darling kids, and a TON of money. I don't know if she's nicer in real life or doesn't understand how bad some of her behavior is, but sometimes I wonder how she has such a blessed life when she's not the nicest. 

Big Kathy. Gotta be. She and Kim always eventually circle back to Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.

[65mickey]

21 minutes ago, NoWhammies said:

Car A is traveling at 25 mph along 6% slope switchbacks. There are 7 switchbacks. Bitch B is at home reading text from her husband's lover on his cellphone at a rate of 5 texts per minute. Crook C somehow flips Car A 6 times down a hill where he is unconscious, bleeding, and pantsless (Idk why - but in this equation, I keep seeing him pantsless) for 12 hours at the bottom of a 500-foot cliff with a 90% slope and 16 tree stumps, 2 boulders, and a prairie dog. After 12 hours, Crook C wakes, calls Bitch B using the cellphone she is reading texts on. Given the data in this story problem, solve for Bitch B and how much of Crook C's ill-gotten gains she may or may not have received using common core math. Show your work. 

I'm Dead.

[izabella]

4 minutes ago, LemonSoda said:

It’s terrifying in different ways. I’ve never understood how someone with such a blessed life, surrounded by so much goodness can be so VILE, manipulative and full on school yard bully. It’s like, What is wrong with you? WHY? 

This is who she is.  She never grew past the high school mean girl stage. 

[LemonSoda]

5 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Seriously! Kyle is beautiful, has a handsome husband, four darling kids, and a TON of money. I don't know if she's nicer in real life or doesn't understand how bad some of her behavior is, but sometimes I wonder how she has such a blessed life when she's not the nicest. 

She has so much going for her. I don’t get it. 
 

2 minutes ago, izabella said:

This is who she is.  She never grew past the high school mean girl stage. 

Definitely a huge part of it. From her book, show behaviours, she has some stunting and a lot of emotional damage. Where I lose empathy is she has the resources and support system to fix herself. She should be doing that not humiliating cast members on national tv over donations then saying oh it wasn’t me who handles that! 🙄

[WhatAmIWatching]

18 minutes ago, NoWhammies said:

Careful now. Tom is reading this forum, as is Erika. And they are coming for you. That's not a threat. It's a promise. 🙄

(That's for Erika and Tom-or Tom's minder since he probably can't remember what words are)

But! We all know Kyle, Dorit, and Rinna aren't because the threads are far too long and have too many big words.

[RoseAllDay]

I had to record this to watch later. (Damn Tuesday night’s insomnia.)

I’m not even five minutes into this and I’m fed up with Erika’s bullshit. She threatened Sutton, and by extension everybody else at that table, and they’re telling Erika to fucking calm down, and telling Sutton she shouldn’t leave? WTF?Why shouldn’t Sutton have left? Why stay around and take Erika’s abuse?

Erika has no answer to Sutton. That is Erika’s problem. I am SO over this bitch!

🤬

Edit: Now Lisa Rinna is pissing me off. Her wide-eyed, innocent look with Garcelle…and saying she was too drunk to remember the dinner? If that’s true — which I seriously doubt, that’s a blackout and she needs help.

Edited September 9, 2021 by RoseAllDay

[RealHousewife]

6 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

I had to record this to watch later. (Damn Tuesday night’s insomnia.)

I’m not even five minutes into this and I’m fed up with Erika’s bullshit. She threatened Sutton, and by extension everybody else at that table, and they’re telling Erika to fucking calm down, and telling Sutton she shouldn’t leave? WTF?Why shouldn’t Sutton have left? Why stay around and take Erika’s abuse?

Erika has no answer to Sutton. That is Erika’s problem. I am SO over this bitch!

🤬

Edit: Now Lisa Rinna is pissing me off. Her wide-eyed, innocent look with Garcelle…and saying she was too drunk to remember the dinner? If that’s true — which I seriously doubt, that’s a blackout and she needs help.

That reminds me of when Kyle puts on her soft voice and acts all docile. lol It's like they forget most of us have been watching the show for years. 

[65mickey]

I'm convinced that they have the producers teling them that when the fights start keep it going. The louder and more outrageous the better. Don't stop until we yell cut! That's why they drug Denise back last season when she wanted to leave. And that's why the other housewives chase after the ones that want to leave. 

[RoseAllDay]

Sutton and PK are winning this episode so far. But I would NOT let Erika Jayne intrude on my date night.

Erika’s photos and captions were disgusting. Way to stay on brand, dear.

And about the dinner — Kathy should have told Erika to calm down or get out. 

[izabella]

57 minutes ago, LemonSoda said:

She has so much going for her. I don’t get it. 
 

Definitely a huge part of it. From her book, show behaviours, she has some stunting and a lot of emotional damage. Where I lose empathy is she has the resources and support system to fix herself. She should be doing that not humiliating cast members on national tv over donations then saying oh it wasn’t me who handles that! 🙄

Kyle told us this season that, even now as adults, Kathy and Kim would sometimes gang up on her and shut her out. and sometimes Kathy and Kyle would shut out Kim.  Notice how Kathy is never the one who is shut out by the other two?

I remember her doing that to Taylor and LVP, and taunting LVP that she must be "jelly"  of her friendship with Taylor. This is the only way Kyle knows how to behave.  

Edited September 9, 2021 by izabella

[LemonSoda]

19 minutes ago, izabella said:

Kyle told us this season that, even now as adults, Kathy and Kim would sometimes gang up on her and shut her out. and sometimes Kathy and Kyle would shut out Kim.  Notice how Kathy is never the one who is shut out by the other two?

I remember her doing that to Taylor and LVP, and taunting LVP that she must be "jelly"  of her friendship with Taylor. This is the only way Kyle knows how to behave.  

It’s repulsive and she has the resources to break these patterns. 

[Stats Queen]

16 minutes ago, LemonSoda said:

It’s repulsive and she has the resources to break these patterns. 

Exactly