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41 minutes ago, Kitty Sharter said:

While the concern expressed may be coming from a place of compassion, to call Gina a poor role model is uncalled for and frankly untrue.  Gina is a great role model; she's an incredibly hard worker and makes it a point to treat EVERY fan with warmth and respect.  

Thank you. 

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2 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

Will not be sharing, only confirming, any new information moving forward. This is fun for me, never serious enough to start accusing other posters. Hopefully others will be able to provide their information. 🙂

Thankful for you lemonbus!

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2 hours ago, Kitty Sharter said:

While the concern expressed may be coming from a place of compassion, to call Gina a poor role model is uncalled for and frankly untrue.  Gina is a great role model; she's an incredibly hard worker and makes it a point to treat EVERY fan with warmth and respect.  

Being a good role model is not a black & white thing. You can be an excellent role model in many ways while not so much in others. Everyone has strengths & weaknesses.

Excellent role model (strengths): hard work & dedication; treatment of fans.

Not so good role model (weaknesses): over photoshopping/filtering pictures on social media; IF she has lost too much weight or is doing unhealthy things (diet, etc), not maintaining a healthy weight or healthy behaviours.

No one is 100% perfect. Everyone has flaws. It doesn't make them any less worthwhile or take away from their goodness.

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6 hours ago, Kitty Sharter said:

 Jalyn is probably the thinnest DCC in person, but again, she has a very narrow frame and her body does not look unhealthy, just skinny and fit. 

 

Is Jalyn the thinnest? She just looks regular to me which says that is her body naturally. I would have never picked her as the smallest DCC. They're all tiny to me!

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I watched the video.  I think it is the perception that makes Gina appear thinner.  If you were to shrink Rachel's height down to Gina's she would appear just as thin.  Rachel's legs are virtually the same size.  There's just more length.   Some people also are just small waisted no matter what.

Also, I don't know who those intro dancers are, but all the DCC look too thin compared to them.  That may have something to do with it?   My niece who is 40 something weighs 84 pounds and is very healthy.  She is just tiny.

Marissa is also a very tiny person isn't she?

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Just a theory…Gina must’ve been given point if they announce it at practice last night and “LB” is a 4 yr vet who… #1 doesn’t like their position in the triangle… #2 trying to cause waves of negative discussion about Gina so people aren’t happy about it when it airs.  I think I know who LB is by looking back at all comments starting with the night the vets were cut in the bubble.  Just a theory.  

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4 minutes ago, BossKeyBlessed said:

Just a theory…Gina must’ve been given point if they announce it at practice last night and “LB” is a 4 yr vet who… #1 doesn’t like their position in the triangle… #2 trying to cause waves of negative discussion about Gina so people aren’t happy about it when it airs.  I think I know who LB is by looking back at all comments starting with the night the vets were cut in the bubble.  Just a theory.  

What is your theory? I'm very fascinated!

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7 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

Being a good role model is not a black & white thing. You can be an excellent role model in many ways while not so much in others. Everyone has strengths & weaknesses.

Excellent role model (strengths): hard work & dedication; treatment of fans.

Not so good role model (weaknesses): over photoshopping/filtering pictures on social media; IF she has lost too much weight or is doing unhealthy things (diet, etc), not maintaining a healthy weight or healthy behaviours.

No one is 100% perfect. Everyone has flaws. It doesn't make them any less worthwhile or take away from their goodness.

If this post were on Reddit I would give it an award! Gina is talented, seems to have a warm and lovely personality and like Holly85 said, a valued contributor to the DCC camp. 
 

She might also struggle with getting enough calories to maintain the active lifestyle she has, whether it’s a factor of no time or because she heavily controls her intake. Who knows, and that’s her business. But if others have noticed, some of the campers might have as well, and I hope those close to her talked to her about it before expressing their concerns to leadership. 
 

ED is nothing new in the dance world, so hopefully she has the support she needs to get back on track in a healthy way, the same way they do the ladies that are continually on WW. Which makes me wonder, other than the blunt conversation on camera with Kelsey several seasons ago (which was poorly done,) why they don’t talk about nutrition in a holistic way.  Being uniform ready means maintaining a healthy weight on both sides of the spectrum.  It takes a lot of calories to maintain the stamina required and still fill out the uniform nicely. 

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1 hour ago, BossKeyBlessed said:

Just a theory…Gina must’ve been given point if they announce it at practice last night and “LB” is a 4 yr vet who… #1 doesn’t like their position in the triangle… #2 trying to cause waves of negative discussion about Gina so people aren’t happy about it when it airs.  I think I know who LB is by looking back at all comments starting with the night the vets were cut in the bubble.  Just a theory.  

Interesting perspective. This sleuthing is a lot more fun than the TV show. 

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2 hours ago, BossKeyBlessed said:

Just a theory…Gina must’ve been given point if they announce it at practice last night and “LB” is a 4 yr vet who… #1 doesn’t like their position in the triangle… #2 trying to cause waves of negative discussion about Gina so people aren’t happy about it when it airs.  I think I know who LB is by looking back at all comments starting with the night the vets were cut in the bubble.  Just a theory.  

Lemonbus has been posting since before all this and they have made comments about a couple of the 4 year vets, or they have liked posts about the 4 year vets

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11 hours ago, Kitty Sharter said:

While the concern expressed may be coming from a place of compassion, to call Gina a poor role model is uncalled for and frankly untrue.  Gina is a great role model; she's an incredibly hard worker and makes it a point to treat EVERY fan with warmth and respect.  

I agree with you that Gina is a fantastic role model. She's gracious to everyone she meets and she's clearly a good teammate (you don't win VOTY for no reason).

Is it possible that "poor role model" in the original post by LemonBus was just a bad choice of words? Could it be that some DCCs expressed concern about Gina's tiny frame being an unrealistic body image for young girls, but they meant no judgment or criticism to Gina's character? I'm just wondering if the rift between LemonBus & Dr. M. is more about word choice and miscommunication than any real drama among the DCCs.

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Note: For anyone who may be triggered by photos of very thin women, please skip by this post.

An unedited photo from 2018 that was posted to facebook early one morning by DCC and then was removed (after numerous horrified comments) within 30 min. was this photo of Daphne. The second photo shows Daphne and Gina on a gameday.

I recall seeing that photo of Daphne and saying, "OMG." It reminded me of my struggles with an ED in college. I was so surprised it was posted to begin with and that anyone in charge there at DCC would approve that.  I am definitely not trying to shame either lady, as I have been that thin in my life, and I do not know the reason for their appearance. Who I AM upset with (if these ladies appear to look unhealthy in real life) is Kelli, Charlotte, and Judy IF they have overlooked/encouraged this look as being desired.

 

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13 hours ago, Blue hues said:

Can’t help but wonder if the girls who reportedly reported Gina being so thin, was jealousy rearing its ugly head?  Or are the girls all besties? 😆 they wouldn’t throw their sister DCC under the bus!  LOL!  K and J would only use it for drama!  

If you're going to start a rumour about someone out of jealousy, there are "better" things to start rumours about. Weight is too easily verifiable by K & J. Start rumours about things that aren't so easily verifiable -- like she's saying bad things about K & J (or whoever), go back to the supposedly snotty attitude she supposedly had as a TCC, or other questionable behaviours that aren't easily verifiable.

2 hours ago, BossKeyBlessed said:

Just a theory…Gina must’ve been given point if they announce it at practice last night and “LB” is a 4 yr vet who… #1 doesn’t like their position in the triangle… #2 trying to cause waves of negative discussion about Gina so people aren’t happy about it when it airs.  I think I know who LB is by looking back at all comments starting with the night the vets were cut in the bubble.  Just a theory.  

I didn't take LB's comment as meant to cause "waves of negative discussion" about Gina. More just sharing info as to what is going on. I also don't see it as being negative towards or "casting aspersions" on Gina's character as Dr. M & some others seem to be taking it. LB reported some girls are concerned about her weight & how it might influence young girls -- nothing in that is saying that anyone thinks she is a bad person. Gina's weight (and her photoshopping/filters) is already mentioned quite a bit on here. She does seem to have body image issues given the amount of photoshopping/filters she uses, so it would not surprise me if she has developed an ED. Is that saying something bad about her? No, just that she's dealing with something (and if young girls (and us older ones, too 😆) don't recognize it for what it is & try to aspire to be like her in that way, then, yes, that can also mean she's a poor role model in the healthy body image/maintaining healthy habits area) and can hopefully get the help she needs in that area (if it's true).

 

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Are there non-photoshopped pictures of Gina as a TCC? I keep reading posts that she just has a tiny frame, but IIRC, she looks significantly smaller now than she did as a rookie (when she was already in shape), so this doesn’t appear to be just a “small frame” issue.  However, I haven’t watched her rookie season in a while, so it’s possible that my memory is jumbled, and she was smaller than I’m remembering. Regardless, It’s not like EDs are uncommon in the dance world, and the DCCs are uber-focused on looks and body. It’s not hard to see how anyone could slide down the path of having unhealthy habits in pursuit of the DCC requirements, no matter how lovely or likeable they may be otherwise.

Now, on the dance side of things, I’ve been calling for Gina to be point for a few years now, so I’m thrilled that it looks like she actually may be point. She is by far (IMO) the strongest dancer on the team. 
 

 

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Slipping into "too thin" for a period of time doesn't mean someone has disordered eating the same way slipping into "too fat" doesn't...and of course it's okay to be thin.  Obviously in America we have a huge problem with obesity, and that gets talked about all the time.  We probably all know a million women who haven't lost their baby weight, for example, and there's the freshman 15, or any number of lifestyle changes that cause a lapse in our normal routines and we pick up weight.  It happens quite often with the younger DCC in particular as they get out on their own and adjust to their new life.  But it's certainly possible to be too thin, and that can cause just as serious of health issues as morbid obesity.

I think the concerns around Gina possibly having ED are centered around the extensive photoshop/filters in the past two plus years AND her sinewy appearance.  Most of the concern is probably coming from a good place, especially since she's grown to be a team favorite based on her dance skills.  I suspect a lot of us (including me) are uncomfortable talking about it in a way we might not if a DCC was showing some muffin top.  Could be completely subconscious on her part and it might take a friend going "hey, I've noticed you've lost some weight lately.  Are you feeling okay about that and do you want to talk about it?"  And for all we know, she might respond with - "I'm on a cut for a bodybuilder show!  Or yikes, I've been so busy lately and noticed my pants are a little looser lately!  Definitely gotta find more time to meal prep!"  Or maybe she has some issues with body dysmorphia. Who knows?  Just look at the Kardashians - all the money, stylists and make up artists in the world and most of the time their pictures are photoshopped beyond recognition.  I would like to see concern about being too thin normalized the same way we seem to normalize being too thick.  

 

Gah, it's such a touchy subject and at the end of the day, hopefully we all wish all of the TCC/DCC good health and much happiness.

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9 minutes ago, SanDiegoGal said:

Does that mean I can start calling myself big-waisted? Because that has a nice ring to it!

I've been calling myself that for years 😂

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1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

Lemonbus has been posting since before all this and they have made comments about a couple of the 4 year vets, or they have liked posts about the 4 year vets

I'm lost. Who do yall think it could be?

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I will say this. Gina is most definitely thinner now than she was her rookie year. Go back and watch her rookie season if you disagree. However, the girl seems to have a very active workout schedule and maybe just cleaned up her diet some after college. I hate to speculate on EDs because such a sensitive topic. She’s absolutely an A++ top tier performer and I hope all is well behind the scenes!

I also think she got a bad edit her rookie year. I admit I deemed her arrogant and feel guilty about that because she has seemed so humble and positive towards her teammates in all the later seasons. Love to Gina!

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1 hour ago, ByTor said:

I've been calling myself that for years 😂

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I really hope not!  She reminds me a bit of Bridget (looks only). Cannot compare her dancing because I haven’t seen it. 

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15 hours ago, Kitty Sharter said:

Have always shied away from discussing appearance/weight on forums, but feel compelled to jump in here to defend Gina.  In person she's definitely thin and very fit, but she has a petite frame in general.  To say that any of the girls on the team are "frighteningly" thin is definitely a stretch.  Jalyn is probably the thinnest DCC in person, but again, she has a very narrow frame and her body does not look unhealthy, just skinny and fit. 

While the concern expressed may be coming from a place of compassion, to call Gina a poor role model is uncalled for and frankly untrue.  Gina is a great role model; she's an incredibly hard worker and makes it a point to treat EVERY fan with warmth and respect.  

I couldn't agree more ~ VERY well said !!   Gina is an amazing young lady on so many levels!!!   And yes, I too agree that she's a wonderful role model !

15 hours ago, Kitty Sharter said:

Have always shied away from discussing appearance/weight on forums, but feel compelled to jump in here to defend Gina.  In person she's definitely thin and very fit, but she has a petite frame in general.  To say that any of the girls on the team are "frighteningly" thin is definitely a stretch.  Jalyn is probably the thinnest DCC in person, but again, she has a very narrow frame and her body does not look unhealthy, just skinny and fit. 

While the concern expressed may be coming from a place of compassion, to call Gina a poor role model is uncalled for and frankly untrue.  Gina is a great role model; she's an incredibly hard worker and makes it a point to treat EVERY fan with warmth and respect.  

 

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15 hours ago, Kitty Sharter said:

Have always shied away from discussing appearance/weight on forums, but feel compelled to jump in here to defend Gina.  In person she's definitely thin and very fit, but she has a petite frame in general.  To say that any of the girls on the team are "frighteningly" thin is definitely a stretch.  Jalyn is probably the thinnest DCC in person, but again, she has a very narrow frame and her body does not look unhealthy, just skinny and fit. 

While the concern expressed may be coming from a place of compassion, to call Gina a poor role model is uncalled for and frankly untrue.  Gina is a great role model; she's an incredibly hard worker and makes it a point to treat EVERY fan with warmth and respect.  

your username has me crying lmfao

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1 minute ago, lemonbus230 said:

This is not rocket science. All of the following can be true-Gina was voted VOTY by her teammates, Gina is well liked by her teammates, several of those teammates care about her enough to be concerned about her weight and bring to leadership attention, and Gina’s in person weight and use of filters is not always a realistic/positive image for those who may look up to her. Not hard.

You are doing the Lord's work LB

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5 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

This is not rocket science. All of the following can be true-Gina was voted VOTY by her teammates, Gina is well liked by her teammates, several of those teammates care about her enough to be concerned about her weight and bring to leadership attention, and Gina’s in person weight and use of filters is not always a realistic/positive image for those who may look up to her. Not hard.

Agreed, if there is concern about her weight her friends owe it to her to bring it to her attention. I'm always honest with my friends and expect the same of them. Sadly, most people would rather talk behind your back than to your face. It doesn't mean they don't like Gina quite the opposite they love/care for her...

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36 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

This is not rocket science. All of the following can be true-Gina was voted VOTY by her teammates, Gina is well liked by her teammates, several of those teammates care about her enough to be concerned about her weight and bring to leadership attention, and Gina’s in person weight and use of filters is not always a realistic/positive image for those who may look up to her. Not hard.

well said!

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18 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

If she's so tiny that her in-person weight is generating THAT much worry and concern, there's a good possibility that she's not a good role model for a group that's already targeted for body shaming, eating disorders, and other health issues. 

This is what I thought after reading "not a good role model". I don't think it is personal or related to character.  I agree there must be a general concern about her weight and an awareness that they cannot use her as a role-model because of that unhealthy skin and bones body type that will unintentionally convey the wrong message to young girls.

Fortunately, the world is slowly moving away from the idea that women have to be almost skeletal to be beautiful. More and more model agencies and companies use fuller models for that reason. 

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7 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

Haven't posted in month bc well life and this past year has made me realize i'm too old for petty drama especially with girls I don't really even know anymore.

But have to say that 1) Rachel W is point bc of looks. Her dancing is adequate and them short drumstick legs SMH, but she is a stunner. Watch that last video on the stage - don't ask me to post it bc it's a few up - she comes out of the gate with the WOW factor they want. She is prob the most photogenic DCC theyve ever had and yes, she is no Ashlee powerhouse, Gina technical, or Amanda fun to watch, but she's STILL better performer than Maddie, Amy, or Lexie. 

2) Tess that bitch is au naturale. No implants. Just straight homegrown Louisiana.

3) Gina. Oh, Gina. So that video I mentioned above. Rachel had the wow factor, but as soon as Gina and Rachel were side by side I was drawn to Gina. She outdanced her. Duh. Split the two with point, get your pictures and then your entertainment. I love split point.

4) Gina part 2. Her body and if she's a good or bad role model. Her body is naturally tiny, muscular and thin, but yes she has gone overboard with the photoshopping and it is not a good look. I think too that she is OCD and has to go to the extreme, competitive with herself more than otehrs, but she has gone too far and it is not a good look. It's just too harsh. I doubt she is unhealthy just looks that way. As for her being a role model, I don't for one minute think she is a bad moral role model or has bad personality traits. I do think her current stringy almost anorexic look is not ideal and it does set her back as an ambassador. 

5) I agree, Daphne has always from day 1 looked sickly and worse than Gina. She just has never looked healthy. I think she is a waist weight gainer and has to look anorexic to keep from looking like she carries a little less than DCC perfect there. Her face always looks tired, drawn, just not good. I do not know anything about her as a person except UCLA UCLA UCLA, but sort of glad she is stepping down for injury bc she always looks sick and miserable. 

6) Caroline. This one is the mystery to me. She looked like perfect cookie cutter point material. Fabulous technical dancer, as good as Gina, maybe better musicality. Perfect body. No weird personality issues. Basic as hell with her look but they seem to like that for point. Not ugly, just not a stunner, but approachable. Now is she even anywhere near the triangle? I know they have a lot of talent but dang. Was the lake incident that bad?

7) Would be shocked if Kat does not make show group just bc she's gorgeous and she can talk to a tree stump. We've seen worse on show group. 

8) Sad Amanda left, but not suprised at all. 

9) Don't get the Alora Rose hate with her looks, personality or dance ability. She's worked on a higher pro level than basically all these girls, looks are fine, and yeah comes off as a little fake, but like a working actress in antoher acting job, so doesn't bother me.

10) Not getting the Marissa hate. She's like an overactive puppy, kind of annoying but you still want play fetch and pat her on the head. Yeah I compared her to a Golden retriever. 


Agree with all of what you said. 

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Just now, Holly85 said:

Dcc Armani 

I totally did not recognize her, but I feel like I could not pick out a single Rookie from last year if they all knocked on my front door. She is GOOD. Reminds me a little of Robin but better and that says a lot.

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I believe Gina’s filters and her increasing weight loss is scary.   She seems to be a great DCC abd great role model except for the weight.  Sadly most women who develop an ED are in denial and good friends speaking to her may go in one ear and out the other.  My MIL is anorexic at 75 and if you say anything, she gets very defensive that she is the exact weight she is supposed to be and then gets louder to say no doctor has ever said anything.  As her son tried to tell her, her reaction told him all he needed to know.  .  If we catch her trying to sneak food, we have learned not to say anything

teammates telling Gina she’s too thin are not going to help the situation 

 

 

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If one has a personal issue with Gina’s weight, so be it. 
 

Bringing in other people’s confidential concerns to make a point is unwise and unkind. 
 

It can be masked as a show of concern. 
 

But it just creates hurt feelings. 

And drama. 
 

But then again maybe that was the purpose. 
 

Gooodbye. 

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15 minutes ago, Lona said:

Ahhhhhh so there ARE concerns???? 

I don’t think Dr. M was ever mad that there were “concerns” or that Gina is being discussed, he/she/they (??????) seem upset that other’s trust has been betrayed in order to get a “scoop.” 
 

I appreciate the info but I do feel LemonBus overstepped by bringing in Gina’s teammates. 

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3 minutes ago, Christineelgene said:

DCC Armani, and I was surprised that she did not make show group last year.  I think this is her year.

I thought she was one of the better rookies last year, I'm shocked she didn't make SG then.

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Just keep in mind that DCC/TCC are weighed weekly (I think, correct me if I'm wrong). So if Gina has dipped below a normal-for-DCC of her height, THEY KNOW. And I'm thinking it will be addressed, or has already been.

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1 hour ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

Haven't posted in month bc well life and this past year has made me realize i'm too old for petty drama especially with girls I don't really even know anymore.

3) Gina. Oh, Gina. So that video I mentioned above. Rachel had the wow factor, but as soon as Gina and Rachel were side by side I was drawn to Gina. She outdanced her. Duh. Split the two with point, get your pictures and then your entertainment. I love split point.

I watched the video and was focusing on Gina. She had energy, was a natural with the dance steps and seemed to truly enjoy being there. Plus, as someone else noted, she had that extra sparkle (ala Kashara) that should be part of the point. 
 

Rachel looked like she was counting the steps in her head. “1,2,3,4, spin, spin, hip thrust, hip thrust, tilt the head, flip the hair, pageant smile, pageant smile”.  She had the steps but seemed to lack the flow between steps and continuity across the dance. In a circle with the whole team, or even aground level shot with the girls in this video, they’d be dancing circles around her (and not just because they’d be in a circle). The girls may like her, doesn’t justify her election as point.  Give that the Gina and any number of the equally qualified ladies. 

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