S10.E02: To Live and Text in Beverly Hills

[Door County Cherry]

Airs 4/22/2020:

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While Kyle tries to attract buyers for her new fashion line in New York City, Erika gets big news that has her moving there; Dorit's move into a new house is marred by negative press about her finances. 

Spoiler warning:  Please do not talk about future storylines that have not yet occurred on the show even if they have been discussed in the press.  (i.e. why Denise stopped filming.)

[nexxie]

Hopefully, Kyle tells people her line is supposed to be “resort wear” - that didn’t seem clear by what they showed of her fashion show.

[bosawks]

Rinna reacting to negative posts on her daughters Instagram as a reflection of her parenting skills and not how it hurts her daughters is the most Rinna thing ever.

[QQQQ]

Did I just have a stroke, or did the scene with Lisa Rinna talking about her daughter's current school/mental health struggles play twice?

Edited April 23, 2020 by QQQQ

[bosawks]

If Dorit hooked up with PK while he was broke she’s dumber than I thought.

[FlyingEgret]

1 minute ago, bosawks said:

If Dorit hooked up with PK while he was broke she’s dumber than I thought.

And a liar

[Keywestclubkid]

Did she just compare herself to rumple stilskin? He was the bad guy right?

[bosawks]

“I have a high pain tolerance.”

Well, yeah, you married Charlie Sheen....

[Keywestclubkid]

Was Erica Starting to pull a Valerie cherish time out? lol 

[bosawks]

I would actually love a scene of Erika picking up her grandchild from pre-k.

[Keywestclubkid]

erika coming across super defensive in those talking heads. Girl she was just getting to know you calm down 

[Axie]

I dislike everything about Sutton.  I even hate her name.

Aaron is a really good husband.  He takes care of the kids, washes the dishes and takes care of Denise.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, Axie said:

I dislike everything about Sutton.  I even hate her name.

 

You would think for a woman who spends that much on fashion the clothes would fit and be a little more flattering. That dress did her NO favors 

[LibertarianSlut]

Dorit is so shady in her financial shenanigans.  Why isn’t the title on the home in both her and PK’s names?  Why can’t she answer a question if she has nothing to hide?  Her deflection to the producer about his own house title was so amateur.  The producer is not on a show about being rich in Beverly Hills, she is.  I do not believe one word they say about their finances.  I have no idea how they’re affording that house.  Something about robbing Peter to pay Paul.  When she met PK, he might have been just above broke on paper, as in on the way to filing bankruptcy, but I’m sure he had credit to extend to her so that she could buy shoes and firs and purses.  She wouldn’t look at him twice if he couldn’t.  At least the producers sat them down and tried to hold their feet to the fire, even if they were only coughing up fumes.

Wow, Garcelle’s story is dramatic.  Does anyone know who the other woman was?  I have a feeling that the email was “leaked” to the press by Garcelle or someone in her camp, which seems perfectly fair under the circumstances.

I don’t think Amelia isn’t making it at school because of her mental health; I think she’s a very young adult who isn’t mature or responsible enough to do college, when she’s had her ass kissed her whole life.  I hate when people like Amelia share all of their innermost thoughts on social media.  Like, why don’t you tell your therapist about your problems and control what you put on social media?  It’s so self-indulgent and it’s so easy for it to come back to bite her down the line.  

Sutton is like Rumpelstiltskin, not Rip van Winkle?  She wants someone to let their hair down for her??  That’s...an odd position to be in.  

ETA I’m the dummy now; I got Rumpelstiltskin confused with Rapunzel.  I still maintain Rumpelstiltskin is an odd character with whom Sutton would identify.  He could turn straw into gold. I’m sure PK has crossed paths with him in business. 

Edited April 23, 2020 by LibertarianSlut
Rumpelstiltskin

[Legalbeagle421]

Maybe I'm crazy but I didn't really see anything wrong with Teddi's text except for the fact that it was a text. She could have called or done something more formal, I guess. 

[Axie]

Erica must be going through menopause.  This is a whole new sensitive side,

[FlyingEgret]

23 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I would actually love a scene of Erika picking up her grandchild from pre-k.

Is a leather or rubber outfit more appropriate for pre-k pickups?

[bosawks]

1 minute ago, FlyingEgret said:

Is a leather or rubber outfit more appropriate for pre-k pickups?

Is it before or after Labor Day?

“I heard a rumor”

All the wives look up and salivate like my dog does when I say treat.

”that the mayor of West Hollywood is here”

All the wives look down like my dog does when I say vet.

[Axie]

Well, Sutton just made an ass out of herself with the mayor.

[JAYJAY1979]

I like there is a housewife not caring if she's liked...it's refreshing. 

[Legalbeagle421]

Ok, the text wasn't bad. But the "I don't care! Don't come!" had me face palming. Calm down, Teddi. None of them want to go, but they are trying to be diplomatic. Meet them halfway, girl!

[TexasGal]

45 minutes ago, bosawks said:

If Dorit hooked up with PK while he was broke she’s dumber than I thought.

If Dorit hooked up with PK while he was broke, it was because he was lying through his teeth to her about being rich.  Like, you know, he might be doing still. 

[Wicked]

Oh Teddi, I don't think she has bad intentions, but she is sooooo off base with how she is handling this.

And Sutton....  she is just weird. Money alone doesn't make you interesting

 

[whydoievencare]

Kyle talking about what is going to happen reminds me of how Texicanas was set up with a narrator.  It seems like that format wasn't very popular and I find it odd that they are essentially doing the same thing with RHOBH.

[LibertarianSlut]

Denise doesn’t want her daughters to know anything bad about Charlie, because he’s their dad, so she’ll just film a reality show where she talks about his hookers and lack of child support payments for two seasons.  She has nothing else to talk about right now, except a hernia surgery.  Last season she spent an entire episode having Aaron drive her to the airport.  Without Charlie, she’s got bupkis, but at least she seems to be aware of that.  

I don’t care if Denise was the most interesting person on the planet—she could have invented the cures to baldness and cancer—and it’s not interesting to watch Aaron take care of her.  They open the show holding diamonds, and we get this?  

Erika and Tom don’t have sex.  She was caught off-guard by the question, and it was so obvious.  Erika said her child comes first.  I don’t know exactly how to respond to that.  I was surprised that Erika’s house looked a little dated when they showed it.  Either that, or I just don’t love their designing aesthetic—too homey.  

Teddi is so boring that she had to bring her dad into her storyline immediately.  She’s no dummy.  She knows why she’s still here, and it ain’t cause of Edwin!

I saw nothing wrong with Teddi’s text either.  If I was going to take offense to it, which is in these women’s DNA, my best guess would be that she’s calling some of them fat and lazy if they don’t want to come, but that’s a stretch.  But Lisa coming out of left field by saying it’s “too open”?  I have never heard anything more petty in my life.  Then again, Teddi got a little defensive at Sutton’s party.  It feels like something off-camera was going on.  Could it really be all about the beach house in Orange County from two seasons ago?  Excuse me, you’re boring me.  

I am so glad the press is coming for Dorit now.  Especially with Bravo protecting her from the woman in the Bahamas last season.  

So Erika, it’s elitist to say something is couture when someone asks you about your outfit?  What is the proper etiquette, to lie and say it was on sale at Target?  And what about saying your outfit is Moschino right off the runway?  That’s down to earth?

I had no problem with the way Sutton spoke to the mayor.  He showed up to her event in sneakers, and his tone was jocular.  He knew there would be alcohol, and I think the questions about the parking were par for the course.  

No live Kyle.  I am girding my loins in anticipation for next week.  🙄

[HeddaGabler]

Erika saying she wished for more emotional support growing up, and then crying with her 80-year old husband (who admittedly seems like he is a good guy and really does support her) = daddy issues

[esco1822]

I found it hilariously hypocritical of Erika to complain about Sutton saying she was wearing couture and then say it’s still ugly. How many times has Erika done the same exact thing since she’s been on the show? Girl, please with the false modesty made by Moschino.

[Lizzing]

It may be an unpopular opinion, but I liked hearing the prdocuers' questions the ladies in their interview segments.  And did anyone else catch the RHOBH mug in Denise's kitchen cabinet? The logo was at first facing the camera, but then suddenly turned around so the logo was no longer visible.  And this is before Denise intentionally breaks the 4th wall by saying "Bravo" to stop filming.

I might be in my own corner, but I love Sutton for the show.  She is a horrible, shallow, vapid, nasty bitch,  and super unapologetic about it, and that's what this show needs.  I never really want to like any of the HWs, and she provides delicious hate-watching so far.  Her fashion alone is worth it--she looks weird in everything we've seen her in, and she's beyond clueless about it.   It may be designer, but she's making Vicki's season 1 brown pants look well-fitted. 

1 hour ago, FlyingEgret said:

Is a leather or rubber outfit more appropriate for pre-k pickups?

Rubber, clearly.  Kids are sticky. 😉

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

You would think for a woman who spends that much on fashion the clothes would fit and be a little more flattering. That dress did her NO favors 

I have never seen someone with such a strange body shape.  I don't ever bodyshame anyone, but Sutton is just sooo oddly shaped.  She seems petite, with a large head and face, very thin arms and legs but a strangely barrel - shaped torso.  

She reminds me of Lord Farquaad from the movie Shrek:

Edited April 23, 2020 by njbchlover

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Axie said:

Erica must be going through menopause.  This is a whole new sensitive side,

I am, strangely, kind of liking this season's Erica~she seems more relatable and more open.  At least, for now.  

And, you know what - she's right in her talking heads about her marriage.  No matter what anyone else's opinion is, she and Tom have been married for 20 years, so whatever it is, it's working for them.  That's saying a lot in the land of short term marriages.

[HeddaGabler]

3 minutes ago, Lizzing said:

I might be in my own corner, but I love Sutton for the show.  She is a horrible, shallow, vapid, nasty bitch,  and super unapologetic about it, and that's what this show needs.  I never really want to like any of the HWs, and she provides delicious hate-watching so far.  Her fashion alone is worth it--she looks weird in everything we've seen her in, and she's beyond clueless about it.   It may be designer, but she's making Vicki's season 1 brown pants look well-fitted. 

I totally agree! It's great to have someone just burst the scenes like the Kool-Aid man, with all her Yacht-dropping conversation starters, and just mindlessly stepping on everyone's toes. She is a good shake-up! I'm sorry to see that she obviously doesn't last, or gets downgraded somewhere in the season.

[Callaphera]

If this whole season is just Sutton versus Teddi, I'm fucking All In. 

[Door County Cherry]

1 hour ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

Ok, the text wasn't bad. But the "I don't care! Don't come!" had me face palming. Calm down, Teddi. None of them want to go, but they are trying to be diplomatic. Meet them halfway, girl!

I think the whole "I'd love to have you but I really really won't be insulted if you don't come" can be really hard to read and it makes the receiver question which half of that is insincere. 

If I think "I won't be insulted if you don't come" is insincere, then she comes off as insecure because I think she will be mad if I don't come but wants to come off as chill.  I'll pay the price for not going.

If I think the "I won't be insulted if you don't come" is sincere, then I might not believe the "I'd love to have you" and think she really doesn't want us there.  

I fall into the habit quite a bit and it usually means I don't want people there because I'm an introvert and the fewer people the better even if it means no people. 

Strangely, based on Teddi's reaction, I oddly think it's both.  She doesn't want them there because she knows they'll likely cause drama (it's part of the job description.)  But when Dorit mentioned she only would come for a short while, she gave her a bit of attitude like she was insulted that Dorit didn't want to come. 

And she can't even get drunk. 

Sutton is kind of interesting.  "Yacht rock?"  That's so lame and hateable but kind of a fun hateable.  Accosting the mayor to complain about parking and having to park correctly on a hill immediately after insinuating she might want help with permits?  Just hateable.  That's not the way to politic. 

The producer needs to have a tagline if he's going to be so prominent. 

[nytonc]

1 hour ago, Axie said:

I dislike everything about Sutton.  I even hate her name.

Aaron is a really good husband.  He takes care of the kids, washes the dishes and takes care of Denise.

I had stopped watching when the show became too Vanderpump-centric. Tuned back in to see the new women before I commit myself to watching again. . 
I just came here to post the same thing about Sutton. She acts like she’s richer/better/smarter/more chic and fashionable than everyone. I hate her already. 

I’m looking forward to the Denise drama. I don’t care for her either. She tries too hard to convince everyone she’s an earth mother.

Garcelle seems ok so far. I’m sick of Dorito & PK and their lawsuits. Kyle is as clueless as ever.

Edited April 23, 2020 by nytonc

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Dorit is so shady in her financial shenanigans.  Why isn’t the title on the home in both her and PK’s names?  Why can’t she answer a question if she has nothing to hide?  Her deflection to the producer about his own house title was so amateur.  The producer is not on a show about being rich in Beverly Hills, she is.  I do not believe one word they say about their finances.  I have no idea how they’re affording that house.  Something about robbing Peter to pay Paul.  When she met PK, he might have been just above broke on paper, as in on the way to filing bankruptcy, but I’m sure he had credit to extend to her so that she could buy shoes and firs and purses.  She wouldn’t look at him twice if he couldn’t.  At least the producers sat them down and tried to hold their feet to the fire, even if they were only coughing up fumes.

 

More like "Paul robbing Peter to pay Paul" (remember - PK's name is Paul Kemsley) - I'm still convinced he has stolen money in a bank account in the Caymans or somewhere untraceable.

And, the house is probably only in Dorit's name because they didn't want his name on anything that could be seized or have a lien put against in any future lawsuits he may be involved in.

Finally, yes, Dorit - many, many, many married couples do have BOTH spouses names on the title of their marital homes.  Probably more do than don't.

[JD5166]

I am just hate watching at this point, but wow is this boring AF. I don’t like Teddy, but why are they so mean to her? I didn’t see anything wrong with her invitation. She can’t say “hey, Bravo will be there if you want to be on camera...even if it’s just before lunch and you have to leave before the evening event.” Why bother even going Dorit, you fucking poser. PK looks even more gross than before , less fat and far more feminine. I wonder if BFF boy george is doing his make up because he was definitely wearing lipstick. 

No wonder they threw this shit out there during a pandemic, what the hell else are we going to do? 

[bichonblitz]

Ugh. PK and Dorit with their TH damage control bullshit. Oh, PK started in real estate and turned the business in to a 2 BILLION dollar business. Stop with the lies! 

Poor Teddi. She is so out of her league. 

I can't stand the way Rinna greets everybody with her loud hello's, her "you look fantastic" BS and her air kisses. Fake AF. 

Erika is really trying out her acting chops this season. Cried twice just this episode alone. We get it, you're a Broadway star now. 

[ShawnaLanne]

I haven't watched this yet, I came here to try to figure out if it is worth my time; which is saying a lot because I am one of the millions who was laid off. But I'm super sensitive right now and not sure if I can handle people being mean to each other. Plus, I really, really hated kyle and rinna at the end of the first episode. 

I'm trying to figure out if seeing Gabrielle, who it doesn't sound like was in very much of the episode, and Erica who might have been given an emotion chip, is worth it. 

Edited April 23, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

I have never seen someone with such a strange body shape.  I don't ever bodyshame anyone, but Sutton is just sooo oddly shaped.  She seems petite, with a large head and face, very thin arms and legs but a strangely barrel - shaped torso.  

She reminds me of Lord Farquaad from the movie Shrek:

she is trying to dress 19... I get wanting to wear cute clothes but when u look like ur gonna bust a stitch sitting down that aint is sis 

[princelina]

2 hours ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

Ok, the text wasn't bad. But the "I don't care! Don't come!" had me face palming. Calm down, Teddi. None of them want to go, but they are trying to be diplomatic. Meet them halfway, girl!

IMO Teddi's main problem is that she just has no sense of humor and can't make anything lighthearted or fun.

As for Denise - the main reason it's hard to believe she was "with" Brandi (even more so than - Brandi) is because she can't STFU about loving big dick!

[enchantingmonkey]

2 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Sutton is like Rumpelstiltskin, not Rip van Winkle?  

It's funny that she got that wrong, and then she seemed appalled that Kyle didn't know about Yacht Rock.  I'd say more people know that van Winkle woke up from a long sleep than people who've heard of Yacht Rock.  

 

16 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I'm trying to figure out if seeing Gabrielle, who it doesn't sound like was in very much of the episode, and Erica who might have been given an emotion chip, is worth it. 

Gabrielle has a segment in which she talks about how her marriage came to a dramatic end. She has brunch with Erika in another segment, then she's on again at the end for Sutton's boutique opening.  

9 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

she is trying to dress 19... I get wanting to wear cute clothes but when u look like ur gonna bust a stitch sitting down that aint is sis 

I think part of her charm is that she seems utterly clueless that she's trying too hard.

[Callaphera]

1 hour ago, enchantingmonkey said:

 I'd say more people know that van Winkle woke up from a long sleep than people who've heard of Yacht Rock.  

Is it wrong that I want Yacht Rock to not only be a thing but also be the thing in music? Two years from now, I want to be watching the Grammy Awards and bitching to the husband about these kids housewives these days and their Yacht Rock clogging up the charts. Like, ugh, back in our day, it was Inflatable Dinghy Jams or GTFO. 

[UsernameFatigue]

I am confused about Sutton's sign regarding her store. Under the name Sutton is says Est. 1971. Is she trying to make it look like her store is some long established, successful store that has been around for decades? Does she not know what Est. means? It isn't even her birth year (not that that would make any sense either) as it appears she was born in 1970. When I googled to look up her birth year I also came across her height (5'6'' - possible) weight (120 lbs - not likely - lol) and net worth - $ 2 million. Two million? I thought she was supposed to be loaded? In BH and surrounding areas, I don't know that that would even qualify as middle class. Not impressed by anything about her at this point.

Speaking of not impressed, one of the reasons I watch the RH franchises (only watch BH, OC and NY) is house porn. So I am not impressed by the new gal's new digs - a basic house that could be anywhere USA (or Canada for that matter since that is where I live). And Denise's rental may be on 2 acres in Malibu, but the house is a decades old looking cookie cutter suburban tract house.  So disappointing. Its like watching Sonya and Dorinda in their shoe box sized apartments and being glad that I live where I live. 

I love the softer, more emotional Erica. And I liked the scenes with Erica and Tom - they obviously have a lot of love and affection for each other after 20 years of marriage, so good on them. 

I agree with a poster above that I think Teddi sent the invitation to the retreat because it is something she needs to do, but likely doesn't really care who comes. I belong to a group of ladies who meet every couple of months and we rotate hosting duties. I hate entertaining (I always say that my home is where I go to get away from people) so I am actually happy when there are some that can't make it - the less the merrier. I love these women, but entertaining is not my thing - I stress about what to serve, if people are comfortable, etc. I would imagine Teddi is the same from what we have seen. 

 

 

[UsernameFatigue]

9 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Is it wrong that I want Yacht Rock to not only be a thing but also be the thing in music? Two years from now, I want to be watching the Grammy Awards and bitching to the husband about these kids housewives these days and their Yacht Rock clogging up the charts. Like, ugh, back in our day, it was Inflatable Dinghy Jams or GTFO. 

Lol. The only reason I know what Yacht Rock is that is was (maybe still is - not sure) the name of a satellite radio station. The guy would come on in a snobby bored rich guy's voice and announce the name of the station. So sorry Sutton, you don't have to be on a yacht to hear yacht rock (which on the station was soft rock from the 70s and 80s), just have satellite radio. Much cheaper than a yacht. And without the insufferable snobs like Sutton. 

[Hiyo]

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And I liked the scenes with Erica and Tom - they obviously have a lot of love and affection for each other after 20 years of marriage, so good on them. 

Yeah, if whatever they have is working for them, then good for them.

The the thing about Sutton is, you'd think she could afford having her clothes tailored to her body style. And if she already is, then that person needs to fired and replaced, stat.

[ShawnaLanne]

Ah yacht rock, I only know the blame of the genre because of music documentaries, but it was popular on the West Cast for a while the 70's and 80s. I'm a few years younger than Sutton, and um, my understanding of the genre is that it's kind of a tackier pop rock? It always came across as sort of skeevy.

[princelina]

26 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I am confused about Sutton's sign regarding her store. Under the name Sutton is says Est. 1971. Is she trying to make it look like her store is some long established, successful store that has been around for decades? Does she not know what Est. means? It isn't even her birth year (not that that would make any sense either) as it appears she was born in 1970. When I googled to look up her birth year I also came across her height (5'6'' - possible) weight (120 lbs - not likely - lol) and net worth - $ 2 million. Two million? I thought she was supposed to be loaded? In BH and surrounding areas, I don't know that that would even qualify as middle class. Not impressed by anything about her at this point.

Speaking of not impressed, one of the reasons I watch the RH franchises (only watch BH, OC and NY) is house porn. So I am not impressed by the new gal's new digs - a basic house that could be anywhere USA (or Canada for that matter since that is where I live). And Denise's rental may be on 2 acres in Malibu, but the house is a decades old looking cookie cutter suburban tract house.  So disappointing. Its like watching Sonya and Dorinda in their shoe box sized apartments and being glad that I live where I live. 

I love the softer, more emotional Erica. And I liked the scenes with Erica and Tom - they obviously have a lot of love and affection for each other after 20 years of marriage, so good on them. 

I agree with a poster above that I think Teddi sent the invitation to the retreat because it is something she needs to do, but likely doesn't really care who comes. I belong to a group of ladies who meet every couple of months and we rotate hosting duties. I hate entertaining (I always say that my home is where I go to get away from people) so I am actually happy when there are some that can't make it - the less the merrier. I love these women, but entertaining is not my thing - I stress about what to serve, if people are comfortable, etc. I would imagine Teddi is the same from what we have seen. 

Whether she was born in 70 or 71 - Sutton is younger than me?  Wow, I'm shocked.  (I was born in 67 and am 52 - I would have guessed her as mid-50s.)

I agree with you about Erica - I have always thought she and Tom are happy together.  Is it a marriage I would choose?  No, but everyone's marriage is different.

I agree with you about Teddi - I am one who loves to entertain and flatter myself that I am good at it, but I can also tell who doesn't/isn't, and she is one.  She tried in earlier seasons with her spa party and pot-luck dinner; smart of her to do something that doesn't depend upon her hosting gifts OR the behavior of the other women 😄 

[SemiCharmedLife]

19 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

The the thing about Sutton is, you'd think she could afford having her clothes tailored to her body style. And if she already is, then that person needs to fired and replaced, stat.

I think she should hire a stylist.  Someone who could tell her WHICH designer clothing would flatter her figure and show her how to accessorize.  But, then, we wouldn't have as much to snark about!

[Marley]

Sutton is an idiot. There’s a yacht rock radio station on my Sirius radio. It’s soft rock mainly I think. She’s such a clueless snob I don’t like her so far. She keeps saying how rich she is too. I tried googling it and could only find the 2 million net worth. Which yea I’d like to have 2 million but for someone who lives in bel air as she likes to brag that is nothing. Does she have family money? Is money hidden? It’s kind of weird.

Aaron and Denise were boring. IDC about his dick size. Seems like she talks about it too much.

This show is way better without LVP tho. Only thing is that now she’s showing up on VPR too much and ruining that show.

[Lizzing]

1 hour ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Speaking of not impressed, one of the reasons I watch the RH franchises (only watch BH, OC and NY) is house porn. So I am not impressed by the new gal's new digs - a basic house that could be anywhere USA (or Canada for that matter since that is where I live). And Denise's rental may be on 2 acres in Malibu, but the house is a decades old looking cookie cutter suburban tract house.  So disappointing. Its like watching Sonya and Dorinda in their shoe box sized apartments and being glad that I live where I live.

The lackluster houses really struck me too.  Hate or love them, Camille, LVP, and Adrienne had some good house porn.  For the current cast, I really only like Kyle's house, and that's for the house, not the shitastic Faye decor or the location.  (Erica's and Rinna's houses could be improved upon with a top to bottom reno--there's a ton of unrealized potential in both.)  The others are just kinda contractor-grade blah, making the pre-reno $30K dumps in Laurel on Home Town look super interesting (at least they're genuine Craftsman with historical details). LOL!

36 minutes ago, princelina said:

Whether she was born in 70 or 71 - Sutton is younger than me?  Wow, I'm shocked.  (I was born in 67 and am 52 - I would have guessed her as mid-50s.)

Either way, Sutton is only 2-3 years older than me, and I would have sworn she's Ramona's age or older.  The crows feet and lines under her eyes are worse than my mother's and she's in her 70s.  Whilst in NYC, Sutton should have skipped NYFW and sat her ass in Dr. Sharon Giese's office waiting for an appointment. OTOH, her aged before her time appearance adds to her general delusion that she's cooler, hipper, and more fabulous than she actually is.  How she didn't make the final cut as a full time cast member escapes me.