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S07.E14: Tell All Part 1


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8 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I continue to dislike Tania but I felt a little sorry for Sasha. What Sister Emily was hearing was "Sasha is fat shaming Emily and forcing her to lose weight". What I heard was "Emily is feeling badly about herself and wants to get in shape and Sasha is trying to support her by helping." He replies to a lot of Reddit stuff and my opinion of him has warmed. 

I guess we'll have to wait for Mike and Natalie to bring the crazy. Rats.

And ho hum.   Angela gets into a fight at the Tell All. That's new... 

NAnny has become my surprise favorite. My husband, who has never seen the show, was passing through the room and when I said, "People think she's a gold digger", he paused and asked, "Well, was she promised gold?" I fully believe Robert promised her a bunch of shit and now he's bullying her out of wanting it. 

My favorite part was when Son Michael came onto the set and paused to shake Mursel's hand.

 @Suzywriter said in the live chat that she couldn't find any pictures online that proved Juliana is a legit model:

She is signed with PRM London, a legit agency (as in, you don't pay to sign up)  https://www.prm-agency.com/women-direct/juliana-custodio/portfolio/women-direct

Also with Modelwerk (Germany) https://www.modelwerk.de/page/model-5831/Juliana_Custodio.html

Catalog work for BooHoo: https://www.boohoo.com/maternity--2-pack-oversized-t-shirt/BZZ48399.html?color=144

She walked for several designers for London Fashion Week in 2017 and 2018. Some of the videos are still online. She's done print work for Elle and New Look, among others. It is possible to be a working model without everyone knowing your name. Many models do online and printwork for small-time designers and catalogues, or runways and salons for people who aren't household names. Models are often brought on for pretty faces at parties, conventions, etc (in a non-escort way). All of her modeling was done abroad and, from what I remember, she was only over there for 2 years (maybe 3 if you count Japan). It's not like we're looking at a complete lifetime of work that spans decades. There is enough mid-level modeling work (especially abroad) available that it's entirely possible to sustain your livelihood without raking in big bucks or becoming famous. Or to get regular work without making a lot of money. Sometimes the benefits (subsidized housing from the agency, comped travel and meals, clothing, etc) are a lot more enticing than the pay. As a child I made decent money (for a kid) for a few years just from doing catalogue work for Hills, Penneys, and Sears and for doing fashion shows for small boutiques in shopping malls. It can be steady, though exhausting, work. And who knows, maybe she got by by being a professional escort. I've known a few who followed that path and when asked what made them do it, "desperation" has almost always been the answer. Michael's kids seem to love her, and they seem to be pretty with it. It's hard to fake it with kids because they'll see through the bull shit pretty quickly. 

 

 

 

 

I think there might be a spoiler in one of those links, so, I'm putting all of my comment in spoiler tags.

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To me, Juilanna looks much better on the show than her professional shots. Not sure why.  Oh, and in that last one, she is modeling Maternity wear.  Is that accurate or is that a pillow under her shirt?  lol 

 

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Count me in with the posters that wonder about the future of some of the folks. What are they going to do? Is Syngin exploring options - does he have anything narrowed down? Life in the shed can get claustrophobic?

Is Mursel planning to take ESL courses so he can actually talk to people? Is Anny planning to work? Will she be a full time mom/babysitter to Bryson? Will Juliana find work as a model? Does she plan to go to school to get a business diploma or something? She doesn’t want to be controlled so what is the plan? Can Sasha get any work as a personal trainer? Lots of them out there and he has to find a way to get some clients.

Have left Angela and WA Mike out since they haven’t had their 5 mins, along with Blake and Jasmin.

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1 hour ago, PityFree said:

Another thought: I really don’t care why Sarah and Michael’s marriage broke up. I cringed through that whole unnecessary exchange. I also cringed when they brought Michael’s kids out.

Initially, I thought you made a mistake and were posting about the two on Love After Lockup. It just proves how appalling my viewing tastes are! Incidentally, this show was my gateway drug to LAL after reading countless recommendations.

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1 hour ago, PinkFlamingo said:

This tell all was more watchable than previous ones. There were a couple of tougher questions asked this time around and that

The more I see Murcel the more childlike he seems to me. He was clinging to Anna’s arm on that couch like a scared and confused three year old. He was totally lost as to what was going on the entire time. His face was the epitome of ignorance is bliss - everyone is laughing? I will laugh too. No matter how much time passes he doesn’t learn any more English. His English “examples” are the first phrases you learn in week one of a foreign language class. They probably don’t put him in an ESL class because he is probably too dumb for that. 

 

 

I saw him cling to her as well, for a minute I thought she was going to whip out a teet and start nursing him

 

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Mike: "So, here's what happened. Bo was drunk one night--okay, there are many nights--but this particular night he told me, 'Mike, I wished I knew how to quit you!' So things are really awkward right now, and between that and Natalie...I don't know, man."

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I did not realize that Bo was his uncle so the joke completely falls apart!
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21 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Count me in with the posters that wonder about the future of some of the folks. What are they going to do? Is Syngin exploring options - does he have anything narrowed down? Life in the shed can get claustrophobic?

Is Mursel planning to take ESL courses so he can actually talk to people? Is Anny planning to work? Will she be a full time mom/babysitter to Bryson? Will Juliana find work as a model? Does she plan to go to school to get a business diploma or something? She doesn’t want to be controlled so what is the plan? Can Sasha get any work as a personal trainer? Lots of them out there and he has to find a way to get some clients.

Have left Angela and WA Mike out since they haven’t had their 5 mins, along with Blake and Jasmin.

Anny can work in a salon as an assistant until she completes her one year for hair. She could do nails in less than two months. Both can be lucrative if you’re good and in a decent market. IMO, she went to the strip club to get the lay of the land. I don’t think she’d make South Florida money there or here, but she could easily pull 300 per shift. Her age is against her though. No matter how youthful a stripper over 30 is, the customers always suss it out and boom it’s the day shift for you. Still pays well enough. 
Sin Gin would be snatched up right away for bartender/waiter based on his looks and personality. If he worked a gay club he would need garbage cans as tip cups. Of course, he’s in his thirties and those clubs are highly competitive. He’d need to work out and age out in a few years. Still, he could tend bar in a straight club indefinitely. 
MRSA has Anna’s bee business. Doesn’t require him speaking or dealing with people. It’s perfect for him.

Jasmin could give out free cheese samples at Costco. Or be one of those perfume squirters. 
The Ukrainian woman is absolutely unemployable. Even worse than Jasmin.

Mahkul could do whatever he’s qualified for and wants to do. He seems smart enough and has a calm personality and a positive feel. He’d easily find work in hospitality until he finds what he wants. 
Juliana is just too childish for me to place. I think nanny. 

 

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It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I loved seeing CeCe and Max at the Tell-All. They appeared to enjoy themselves, especially Max. Cece was feeling a bit shy, but I thought they were super cute - and I don't even like most kids. But Max and Cece are smart and well-spoken (far more so than Anna's boys are) and they seemed to want to be on the Tell-All. If for no other reason than to tell Anna and Mursel that they should've learned to speak each other's language before they got married. They were the only voices of reason on that stage, on that subject. 

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26 minutes ago, Scout Finch said:

Mike: "So, here's what happened. Bo was drunk one night--okay, there are many nights--but this particular night he told me, 'Mike, I wished I knew how to quit you!' So things are really awkward right now, and between that and Natalie...I don't know, man."

It’s his uncle ew.

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2 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

First thing I said to Mini Persnickety when they showed Tania...

"Oh, holy shit, I think she actually showered and washed her hair!"

but it drove me crazy when she was playing with that one stringy strand

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I feel bad that I am so critical of these people...that said, I feel better for confessing and I continue blasting away.   I remember an early episode where a Big Mike said that Natalie had multiple degrees and had studied psychology for years. I think they edited out the words “could have” multiple degrees because she has spent her whole life in therapy, on the couch curled up in the fetal position with her mother cradling her, stroking her hair, calling her “her golden child”.  

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Juliana needs a new best friend.  

Something tells that Sarah and Michael were equally responsible for the end of their marriage.   It wasn’t all Michael’s fault.  

Sarah didn’t need to be there.  She so wants her own show.  Michael is over it. 

I cringed when the kids came on.  

Syngin will be the first in his family to get a divorce. 

Robert has five kids that he struggles to support.  They come first.  He had no business to bring Anny here, let  alone have more kids.

How is Anna going to pay for a surrogate?   Babies via surrogates are around $30k to $50k.   Sure she makes a decent living but not that good.  Her first financial obligation is to her three kids that are already here. Not to her Turkish Delight man-baby.  Someone needs to bitch slap her. 

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10 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I continue to dislike Tania but I felt a little sorry for Sasha. What Sister Emily was hearing was "Sasha is fat shaming Emily and forcing her to lose weight". What I heard was "Emily is feeling badly about herself and wants to get in shape and Sasha is trying to support her by helping." He replies to a lot of Reddit stuff and my opinion of him has warmed. 

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NAnny has become my surprise favorite. My husband, who has never seen the show, was passing through the room and when I said, "People think she's a gold digger", he paused and asked, "Well, was she promised gold?" I fully believe Robert promised her a bunch of shit and now he's bullying her out of wanting it. 

So agree on these two points. I absolutely HATE when someone mentions they want to lose weight or tone up or get fitter and they're immediately steamrolled by someone like Tania who insists "YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL" over and over (meanwhile, she's like, uhh, thanks? But I'm not talking about being beautiful, I'm talking about feeling better in my own skin). You can be okay with yourself and still want to make positive changes. And her husband is a trainer, and very obviously into fitness, and she very obviously likes that, so what's the harm in wanting to get a little fitter? I find it telling that the only ones complaining are Betsy and Tania, and...well...perhaps they are not as familiar with the very uncomfortable feeling of having been a fit person who's now carrying an extra ten or 20 pounds. If you've always been bigger, it's probably not as weird or uncomfortable to carry around extra weight you're not used to.

I was prepared to hate Anny, not sure why, but she grew on me. She's every straight man's dream! Beautiful, sexy, smart, assertive, sexually adventurous with a high libido, and good to Robert's kid. She's not asking for much--she's barely asking to be treated with respect! And what does she get? Some couple she doesn't know and isn't related to--and neither is Robert--offering to pay her to leave the country (and why? Who is she harming by being here?). If I had my way I'd ask to keep Anny in the US, and give Robert back to another country (AFTER getting snipped). I'd even set her up with some of my cute single male friends, who are all super nice and would treat her well, and have real jobs!

This "soulmate" thing is so tiring. I get why Syngin was upset, and it was a dumb thing to say from the start, but the long term backlash is so stupid. I can't think of a single married adult who gives a shit about or even believes in soulmates. That's something for dreamy-eyed high school kids to write in their journals about. It's right up there with calling your SO your "partner in crime" or your "ride or die." It's a word that's been bandied about for so long it's lost all meaning, if it ever had any.

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When Anny mentioned not having conceived yet, PornGramps, looked at each other liked they had been caught in a trap. There was additional bickering about Bryson, but that comment seemed to really trigger something in them. I wonder what that was about.

It was bad enough that Blake hadn't figured out that the shade of blonde he wears does not complement him, but now he's sporting blue contacts. The horror.

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I thought Tania looked gorgeous.  And call me kooky but she did grow  on me.  She's a terrible person, but her brand of narcissism and the bickering amuse me.

Am I the only one that likes Robert?  I can't help it.  He makes me laugh and Anny for some odd reason does seem to love him.  I wouldn't mind a spinoff show with them.

Anna goes on TV talking openly about not needing to tell anyone about a surrogacy?  Forget about the stupidity of saying that on TV, why is she teaching her kids it's okay to lie?  Then again, this is the woman that married a man who denies her own children.

Michael's kids continue to charm the hell out of me.

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19 minutes ago, monagatuna said:

So agree on these two points. I absolutely HATE when someone mentions they want to lose weight or tone up or get fitter and they're immediately steamrolled by someone like Tania who insists "YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL" over and over (meanwhile, she's like, uhh, thanks? But I'm not talking about being beautiful, I'm talking about feeling better in my own skin). You can be okay with yourself and still want to make positive changes. And her husband is a trainer, and very obviously into fitness, and she very obviously likes that, so what's the harm in wanting to get a little fitter? I find it telling that the only ones complaining are Betsy and Tania, and...well...perhaps they are not as familiar with the very uncomfortable feeling of having been a fit person who's now carrying an extra ten or 20 pounds. If you've always been bigger, it's probably not as weird or uncomfortable to carry around extra weight you're not used to.

And she's well past her postpartum baby weight gain now. I don't know why she has gained so much as of late, but this would be the best time for her to tackle it, before it gets to be a harder struggle. Betsy seems to have an agenda in seeing her sister get chubby.

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20 minutes ago, Iguessnot said:

It was bad enough that Blake hadn't figured out that the shade of blonde he wears does not complement him, but now he's sporting blue contacts

Maybe he always wanted to be a blue-eyed blond. 

About Emily and Sasha, here’s what I think may have happened. Emily met him at the gym and flirted with him, even going so far as to ask him out. He told her he was married, but then he thought for a while and realized that Emily could be his ticket to America. 

Off topic, but you people might know the answer to this. Is the Russian city correctly pronounced Mos-koh or Mos-cow? (Spell check suggested Mos-Kohl’s) 

7 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

What was the rosary bead tassel broken wristlet off a YSL knockoff Murse that Mursel was holding and fidgeting with

It’s a Turkish fidget spinner. 

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5 hours ago, blubld43 said:

Tania and Syngin, I give them two years, tops.  They argued before the marriage, they're arguing now, when most couples are in the honeymoon phase.  She takes zero responsibility for any of her bad behaviors, puts herself first always.  I think Syngin is here for the green card, once he has that on lockdown, he'll tell her to kick rocks.  I hope.

I think Syngin will stay with Tania unless and until it gets completely unbearable and she gives him his walking papers. He’s much too lazy to initiate anything and will follow the path of least resistance. 

With regard to him ever finding a job or deciding on a career path, he’ll be waiting forever to find the perfect fit. I also think that his PTSD (which, in my opinion, is “over-diagnosed” by people who have never actually seen a bonafide mental health professional) is a convenient excuse. You’re just plain lazy, Syngin! I’d have more respect for you if you owned it.

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1 hour ago, FrancescaFiore said:

It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I loved seeing CeCe and Max at the Tell-All. They appeared to enjoy themselves, especially Max. Cece was feeling a bit shy, but I thought they were super cute - and I don't even like most kids. But Max and Cece are smart and well-spoken (far more so than Anna's boys are) and they seemed to want to be on the Tell-All. If for no other reason than to tell Anna and Mursel that they should've learned to speak each other's language before they got married. They were the only voices of reason on that stage, on that subject. 

You are not in the minority.  I don't have kids, never wanted them, but I love kids (my nieces and nephews are to die for.. great kids.. and adults now).  I think Anna's kids are very polite and mature, so I give Anna that for raising them right.. She has NOW blown it all by marrying a special-needs adult who has NO IDEA what the hell is going on.  I can't blame the oldest boy.

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6 hours ago, FurBabyMama said:

Not sure if I heard correctly cause I was only half watching, but did I hear anny say that she can’t have children? As someone who has dealt with infertility it can be totally triggering when someone asks about birth control or having kids. Still think porn star granny is crazy. 

What I took from that exchange was that Anny said she was 30 and since she hadn't gotten pregnant/had children up to this point that she was assuming she couldn't have children. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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1 hour ago, LGGirl said:

 

How is Anna going to pay for a surrogate?   Babies via surrogates are around $30k to $50k.   Sure she makes a decent living but not that good.  Her first financial obligation is to her three kids that are already here. Not to her Turkish Delight man-baby.  Someone needs to bitch slap her. 

Guess Anna’s sons can kiss their college funds goodbye. After all, Anna’s happiness is paramount and who really gives a shit about the kids?

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17 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

What I took from that exchange was that Anny said she was 30 and since she hadn't gotten pregnant/had children up to this point that she was assuming she couldn't have children. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

That's what it sounded like to me. She made assumptions since she hadn't been knocked up yet, but no real medical diagnosis.

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10 hours ago, lizajane said:

I would listen to Sasha 's nutrition advice long before his sister in law's. She looks like she should heed it as well. But he should find himself some shirts that fit.

I think when Angela jumped in with her advice on health and nutrition was just awesome...wait...she stayed quiet for once?

I wonder why?🤔

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Does anyone think that Anna looks like she's pregnant?? (God forbid).. and I'm just gonna say it.. Blake is definitely gay (I have no problems with that.. one of my best friends is a gay man).. and Jasmine is a cold hearted, plastic, lazy, woman and I would have hoped that Blake would have realized that (his friends did).. but maybe it's all for the show.

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Do you know what I wanted Tonya to be grilled on instead of the soulmate thing I wanted her to be grilled on why the she shed wasn’t complete before he got there.

 

 I am going to guess at what Mike and Natalie’s big secret is: I do not think he cheated. I’ll bet he had the good sense to cancel the visa request!! And that’s why everybody else on stage gasps and is so shocked; that’s never happened before on 90 day that I know of.

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1 hour ago, Iguessnot said:

And she's well past her postpartum baby weight gain now. I don't know why she has gained so much as of late, but this would be the best time for her to tackle it, before it gets to be a harder struggle. Betsy seems to have an agenda in seeing her sister get chubby.

I get the feeling Emily's thinness when meeting Sasha was not a lifelong way of life for her. I suspect she was chubby like her sister all her life and so Betsy knows she's going to be that way again and Sasha will leave her.

 

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4 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I get the feeling Emily's thinness when meeting Sasha was not a lifelong way of life for her. I suspect she was chubby like her sister all her life and so Betsy knows she's going to be that way again and Sasha will leave her.

 

IDK, nothing in their interaction suggests that Emily is returning to a heavy size. Betsy is enjoying the taunts, even if Sasha is shady. 

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27 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I get the feeling Emily's thinness when meeting Sasha was not a lifelong way of life for her. I suspect she was chubby like her sister all her life and so Betsy knows she's going to be that way again and Sasha will leave her.

 

Here’s how I imagine it all went down:

Emily didn’t have much of a life other than teaching English to Russian kids and decided going to a gym would give her some way to interact with adults. She developed a crush on Sasha and started working out religiously just to get his attention. He became her personal trainer and had to continue exercising in order to keep his attention. They started dating, she got pregnant and the rest is history. I doubt that she’ll ever get back to her pre-pregnancy weight and fitness level. She says she wants to get back in shape, but I think she’ll passive aggressively use her weight gain as a big FU to Sasha.

History will repeat itself and he’ll leave Emily when he finds his next victim female client. You can tell that she’s already contemptuous of him (read about the Four Horsemen of Divorce https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-recognizing-criticism-contempt-defensiveness-and-stonewalling/). I also think she’s depressed, so that doesn’t help.

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30 minutes ago, Iguessnot said:

IDK, nothing in their interaction suggests that Emily is returning to a heavy size. Betsy is enjoying the taunts, even if Sasha is shady. 

I think Emily will develop an eating disorder -- either losing weight or gaining it -- because she seems to have an intense paranoia about Sasha leaving her now (which she should've had before marrying him).

  

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5 hours ago, Colfrmb2 said:

question:  do you think some people purposely leave their story hanging so they have a story line for upcoming seasons?  

The couples don't have that much control over their own stories - it would be the show's decision to leave their story dangling for a second season.

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I agree (earlier post from LGGirl) that Juliana needs a new best friend...someone nearer to her age than Sarah. I was hoping that she and Anny would talk backstage during the Tell All (perhaps they did). While they speak different languages, each knows English well enough to talk about what they are experiencing and form a friendship. And NO...not Tanya. I don't care that they both live in Connecticut. Tanya sucks.

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3 hours ago, LGGirl said:

Juliana needs a new best friend.  

Something tells that Sarah and Michael were equally responsible for the end of their marriage.   It wasn’t all Michael’s fault.  

Sarah didn’t need to be there.  She so wants her own show.  Michael is over it. 

I cringed when the kids came on.  

Syngin will be the first in his family to get a divorce. 

Robert has five kids that he struggles to support.  They come first.  He had no business to bring Anny here, let  alone have more kids.

How is Anna going to pay for a surrogate?   Babies via surrogates are around $30k to $50k.   Sure she makes a decent living but not that good.  Her first financial obligation is to her three kids that are already here. Not to her Turkish Delight man-baby.  Someone needs to bitch slap her. 

The fact that Anna said Murcel can have a conversation in English then with the help of subtitles he says that he cannot speak English...before they have a baby they should speak the same language. 

Do we see Juliana living with Sarah when things go south with her marriage? LOL.

I am not sure why but none of these couples seem to really worry about money, how do they not lay awake at night wondering how they are going to make ends meet?  Why do they add to their already messy lives?   This has got to be some sort of syndrome.

 

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I'm tired of seeing Angela on this show and mute when she talks...it's ridiculous that this franchise would continue to fund such a piece of garbage.

I feel the same about Darcy...she makes me cringe...i was so glad when her season was over...then to see she's coming back?? Ughhhhh!

It's like going on your porch and finding half of a dead snake that your dog killed...you clean it up and are glad that mess is finished...then you go back in the house and find out the dog threw up the other half of the snake! 

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2 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:


What was the rosary bead tassel broken wristlet off a YSL knockoff Murse that Mursel was holding and fidgeting with? 

 

2 hours ago, Iguessnot said:

They were tasbih beads

Are we sure it wasn’t a teething ring?

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 I would listen to Sasha 's nutrition advice long before his sister in law's. She looks like she should heed it as well. But he should find himself some shirts that fit.

Emily's sister talked about this in an Instagram post after the tell-all, but it sounds like she has struggled with disordered eating. She probably "lashes out" at Sasha because when he talks about restricting, it triggers her. 

 Mahkul could do whatever he’s qualified for and wants to do. He seems smart enough and has a calm personality and a positive feel. He’d easily find work in hospitality until he finds what he wants.

Michael seems like a nice guy. I almost feel like he deserves an honorary Green Card at this point for putting up with Angela's shenanigans. (Not going to lie though: the idea of anyone having sex with Angela, let alone 38 times in 14 days, makes me nauseous.) 

 

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8 hours ago, lasandi said:

 When they remarry other people, a real ring will cover it right up.  lol

Yikes...…...you think someone else is going to want to marry her? hmm...…..I guess stranger things have happened

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1 hour ago, ChiCricket said:

I think when Angela jumped in with her advice on health and nutrition was just awesome...wait...she stayed quiet for once?

I wonder why?🤔

lol! Funions, smokes, Skol vodka, pickled aigs, pickle sausage, pork rinds and Pabst. Angela knows all the food groups.

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The Robert on "90 Day" and the one we saw on the "Tell All" seemed like two different people. The one from the "Tell All" was quite likeable, while on "90 Day", he was a complete a-hole who constantly disrespected his fiancé and allowed others to do so as well.  I have a feeling their storylines were manufactured.

They seemed to have tight restraints on Angela. Based on some of her facial reactions, she clearly wanted to go off.  

I got a chuckle out of Emily's reaction when she saw Juliana.  All of a sudden she felt short and stubby.  That's probably how Sara feels. 

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4 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I loved seeing CeCe and Max at the Tell-All. They appeared to enjoy themselves, especially Max. Cece was feeling a bit shy, but I thought they were super cute - and I don't even like most kids. But Max and Cece are smart and well-spoken (far more so than Anna's boys are) and they seemed to want to be on the Tell-All. If for no other reason than to tell Anna and Mursel that they should've learned to speak each other's language before they got married. They were the only voices of reason on that stage, on that subject. 

Does Michael speak Juliana’s language? Her English is okay, not great, but then I think she pretends to not understand to maintain the too innocent to be scamming act. She hasn’t told the same backstory twice. I suspect Michael doesn’t want the truth out there and she’s scared she’ll slip and let the cat out of the bag. 
 

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6 hours ago, Spike said:

Plus asking their favorite couple when those kids are too young to be watching the show.  

yeah, not a question you ask anybody anyway

but since they did answer, why on earth would they have said mike and natalie?  what is likeable about their situation? 

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