S07.E07: The Truth Shall Set You Free

[Pepper Mostly]

And the way the whole family caterwauled about "American breakfast! American cereal!" like it was the second coming of Christ. My god, its a bowl of cereal for crying out loud. The ride to the gym must have been fun. "Look, Sasha, there's an American tree! Do you have such tall trees in Russia?" "Over there is an American Jiffy Lube! Do you have such clean efficient oil changing shops in Russia?" "There's an American Dunkin Donuts! Large sugary donuts are a traditional American treat!" 

[b2H]

On 12/14/2019 at 11:49 PM, liammaam said:

Angela absolutely is ruining this season for me. She’s such a wretch. So nasty and abusive, and she leaves such a bad taste. I’d never be okay with TLC showing a man treating a woman the way she treats Michael- they need to kick her sorry trash Georgia assface to the curb. 

The problem is, viewers complained that these participants this season were boring, so they thought they were entirely justified in bring this $#itshow back.

Be careful what you wish for - you just might get it.

[Drogo]

Just now, Pepper Mostly said:

And the way the whole family caterwauled about "American breakfast! American cereal!" like it was the second coming of Christ. My god, its a bowl of cereal for crying out loud.

May I kindly remind everyone that it does not say RSVP Frosted Mini Wheats on the Statue of Liberty?!

Here's an American breakfast:

[RealReality]

10 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

Blue is what's in style now.

And I'd personally prefer a no-cost wedding and a $100K stake in the business/house/portfolio.

I'm hoping she doesn't. I want her to blow up on the int'l modeling circuit and leave him fast.

You forgot "pre-nut."

Id hope for Juliana's sake that she gets away from him too.  But she may stupidly think that a baby is in her best interest.  

Or....he could be behind the scenes passive aggressively dangling the green card status or divorce if she doesn't get pregnant.  

Maybe he will surprise me and help her to be financially independent....but I doubt it

1 minute ago, Drogo said:

May I kindly remind everyone that it does not say RSVP Frosted Mini Wheats on the Statue of Liberty?!

Here's an American breakfast:

Its only missing the selection of syrups.  I love American breakfast...so many items...bacon and sausage....why choose?  I also take my eggs scrambled with cheese, but those eggs are prettier. 

[RealReality]

7 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

And the way the whole family caterwauled about "American breakfast! American cereal!" like it was the second coming of Christ. My god, its a bowl of cereal for crying out loud. The ride to the gym must have been fun. "Look, Sasha, there's an American tree! Do you have such tall trees in Russia?" "Over there is an American Jiffy Lube! Do you have such clean efficient oil changing shops in Russia?" "There's an American Dunkin Donuts! Large sugary donuts are a traditional American treat!" 

If she wanted an easy American oversugared breakfast she should have gotten donuts.  

Are they going to be living with her sister?  I was in the middle of soapmaking and so I wasn't paying attention. 

[Cherrio]

I didn't read the live chat so its probably been covered, but...........

did Angela's mother have a goatee?  (under the sawed off shotgun blast)

Oh ......and that scene with mediator ?  Greenwich guy was looking at her with a Dirty John look. Scary........

[gotta watch]

I've seen no proof that we're NOT being ruled by aliens riding ponies. So who's to say?

[magemaud]

10 hours ago, RealReality said:

I'm not sure if he is doing all this for a storyline but it sucked. 

I'm paraphrasing the conversation, but none of it makes sense.

Robert, voiceover on the way to looking at apartments: "We really need a two bedroom apartment. It's not fair to Anny to have to sleep with Bryson." (in other words, he's not getting any until they have privacy.) 

Anny, outside the apartment afterwards, scowling and flipping her hair: "Why did you bring me here?"

Robert: "Because I love you." (WTF kind of non-answer is that?)

Anny: "I don't want to wait a year to move. want this apartment."

Robert: "What do you love more, ME or the apartment? You're ungrateful." 

Edited to add, I am totally distracted by Robert's dirty neck ring in his THs. He just looks and acts nasty. Anny is a full on bitch

Edited December 16, 2019 by magemaud

[blubld43]

3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I think it's been a very long time since a white wedding dress has been thought of as virginal and pure and a white wedding dress is now just a white wedding dress. God knows when I was married, I should have been wearing a pitch black dress if that was the case. 

Dying laughing. I've been married more than once too, a lot of us would be wearing the black dress of slut-shaming.

Edited December 16, 2019 by blubld43

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, winsomeone said:

That poor Russian baby. His head is so huge I bet he will never be able to sit up or walk without tipping over.

From the look of those thighs, he has plenty of support! I just can't help comparing him to some of the baby pictures I've seen on "My 600 Pound Life." 

[blubld43]

2 hours ago, charmed1 said:

I feel sorry for Robert’s other four children and I wonder how often he sees them. If I were their mothers, they damned sure wouldn’t be spending the night at his place. If the one kid is sleeping in the bed with him, I’m sure they would be forced to sleep on the floor like little urchins.

I had a pony!

We're going to have a Seinfeld episode here!

I'm interested in the rest of his kids too, I hope they're all better off with their moms.

[b2H]

3 hours ago, queenbee24 said:

And now she wants to blame a language barrier? um what? Now I do believe he should learn to speak her language too, but we've seen no evidence she can't understand him.

But I also believe, from my own past experience, that something technical should be translated into the native language.  There're plenty of folks out there who speak Portuguese that could help her - my son-in-law's family is from nearby Waterbury, CT, and there is a pretty sizable Portuguese community there.  Wouldn't be hard to get a reasonable translator to help her navigate it.  That way, she can't use the language barrier as a defense for not understanding the legal jargon.

@magemaud

Edited December 16, 2019 by b2H

[PinkFlamingo]

51 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

I always watch all the couples, but I had to fast forward through that guy with the 5 baby mammas. I watched the part in the apartment, but really I don't need to hear their stupid phony IGNORANT arguments. In my opinion the worst couple featured on any version of the show in the history of the show. DESPISE.

In my opinion no couple can top the demonic force that is Eric and Leida. 

Agree that I don’t find Anny and Robert interesting enough to pay attention to at this point either. All they do is snipe back and forth and it’s annoying. 

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, queenbee24 said:

I'd spend a couple grand to get her an independent attorney to look over the final prenup,

who speaks Portuguese!  

[WahooLAH99]

3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I think it's been a very long time since a white wedding dress has been thought of as virginal and pure and a white wedding dress is now just a white wedding dress. God knows when I was married, I should have been wearing a pitch black dress if that was the case. 

Not if you ask Iris from Married at First Site!  Everyone knew her white, white, extra white dress meant she was a virgin, NOT!

[Normades]

44 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

And the way the whole family caterwauled about "American breakfast! American cereal!" like it was the second coming of Christ. My god, its a bowl of cereal for crying out loud. The ride to the gym must have been fun. "Look, Sasha, there's an American tree! Do you have such tall trees in Russia?" "Over there is an American Jiffy Lube! Do you have such clean efficient oil changing shops in Russia?" "There's an American Dunkin Donuts! Large sugary donuts are a traditional American treat!" 

That reminds me, I have to go to the American grocery store later. 

[PinkFlamingo]

So Sasha is one of those guys that winks at every woman around because he smugly thinks he is God’s gift to women...  including blood relatives of his “fiancé”... guys like that make me STABBY..

Guess what Sasha no amount of muscles fixes the DERP look that you have on your face 90 percent of the time. Muscles fade but derp is forever. 

And he is going to be a guest in someone’s house and not only dictate what food they should be providing for him, but what food they should eat as well? GTFO Mimbo, go buy your own food.

[ChiMama]

12 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

I want trashcAngela to be hoisted on her own petard. The visa she wants Mykull to get is from one of them shithole countries. Big Ange should have grabbed a guy from Norway. Heh.. as if.

I was screaming this in my head the whole time -- especially when she claimed that "as a taxpayer, I DESERVE to  .. . . yammer, yammer." She lives in a state that I think takes more than it gives in taxes. It's also a pretty tone deaf argument for her to make, especially considering one daughter is a 'guest of the state,' so to speak and I'm confident she's getting public funds to help raise all those grandchildren. I think the 'taxpayers' have done plenty for Angela; delivering Mah-kuhl to her is not a 'right.' And, as you stated -- he's definitely at risk not to get approved in the current immigration environment.

Plus, I suspect he didn't do the interview at all and is lying about not getting approved -- Angela would never check on it and it's a perfect out for him to break her steely bonds and find a younger, more fertile Nigerian wife.

Edited December 16, 2019 by ChiMama

[TrininisaScorp]

2 hours ago, Drogo said:

In case anyone missed the episode, here's a quick visual recap: 

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ANGELA: 

Kindly do not besmirch the name of Spornak by comparing my Queen Bea to Angela!  LOL.

I got the creeps in Angela's house.  It looks dirty and clearly smells.  Ew.

I'm with all of you:  Emily doesn't really want to gym, as much as she wants Sasha to stay away from all that ample American booty.  I don't doubt he was with #2 when he met Emily, so the pattern of behavior is there.  That said, Sister Emily couldn't have grabbed some oatmeal, fruit, and eggs at the store?  Those seem like basic breakfast foods that would work regardless of where you come from.  There is little more I love than a chubby wubby baby and I would squeeze Daveed like Elmira from Tiny Toons...he is sooo cute.  I'm sure once he's mobile, he'll get rid of that baby fat, but gimme one of those cheeks or thighs in the meantime.

Sad that Alien Mike is the sane one between him and Natalie.  B/c, she got the crazy eyes, and her behavior at breakfast was appalling. 

Anney may be terrible, but somehow, Robert is much worse.  He gaslights her at every opportunity, and seems to think she should be thanking him for it.  I'm shocked at the price of that apt...in Orlando, rentals are EXPENSIVE, and in a desirable area with a view and refurbishment, I'm surprised it was only $1700.

Fuck, Michael.  He's a prick with a dick complex that is trying to flex his money, but he seems like a small fish in a rich, big pond.  

[RealReality]

51 minutes ago, gotta watch said:

I've seen no proof that we're NOT being ruled by aliens riding ponies. So who's to say?

People are riding ponies on every continent.  I'm not saying that's proof of anything, but how did everyone know to ride ponies......it's like the aliens came down and told everyone that they could ride on the backs of ponies.  

Edited December 16, 2019 by RealReality

[RealReality]

18 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

So Sasha is one of those guys that winks at every woman around because he smugly thinks he is God’s gift to women...  including blood relatives of his “fiancé”... guys like that make me STABBY..

Guess what Sasha no amount of muscles fixes the DERP look that you have on your face 90 percent of the time. Muscles fade but derp is forever. 

And he is going to be a guest in someone’s house and not only dictate what food they should be providing for him, but what food they should eat as well? GTFO Mimbo, go buy your own food.

LOL....he was very clear that he isn't looking at the women....the women are looking at HIM and his amazing muscles.  What's a guy to do?

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Edited to add, I am totally distracted by Robert's dirty neck ring in his THs. He just looks and acts nasty. Anny is a full on bitch

And she is counting the days since they last fucked. They're both gross!

[sasha206]

1.  Why does Michael always look constipated?

2. Please Juliana, you know what a prenup is.  However, I don't blame you for wanting to be protected.

3. Beekeeper, hope your moronic idiot shrimpy boyfriend's supposedly large dick was worth the damage you already did to your kids by even considering marrying him.

4. Shrimpy sacrificed a lot for Anna?  How about not getting into a relationship with a woman who has children? 

5. Ukrainian Virginia Madsen lookalike, how about not getting involved with an atheist if religion is that important to you?

6.  Emily, the cat eye doesn't work for you on your droopy eyes.  Meanwhile, Sasha looks uglier and uglier by the minute.  What the fuck is it with that stupid hair?  He has no forehead.  And big features on a small face.  And Emily, you're already worried about him leaving you.  Maybe you should have worried about that before you you bore a third son for him to abandon?  

7.  I love Anny & Robert and their bickering.  I can't help it.  

[FrancescaFiore]

20 minutes ago, ChiMama said:

I was screaming this in my head the whole time -- especially when she claimed that "as a taxpayer, I DESERVE to  .. . . yammer, yammer."

I wish I could remember the comedian who said this (I want to say it's John Mulaney) so I could properly credit them, but it's the first thing I thought of when trashcAngela said "I'm a taxpayer, I DESERVE..." was this comedians line, "The INSTANT anyone says 'I'm a taxpayer...' the next thing they say is going to prove them to be a giant, self-entitled asshole."

And so it came to pass when Ange said that she is entitled to get what she wants as a taxpayer, she proved herself to be the dirty sphincter we all knew she is.  There is nothing in the reality TV world that I would relish more than trashcAngela getting screwed by her own numpty politics. Fingers crossed for maximum sadness for her. She's earned it. 

[BallisticNikki]

12 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

I forgot about Mike and Natalie. The religion thing that is so important to her is a major red flag. He does not share her faith and is not likely to convert any time soon. He may respect it, but that is it. He has his own beliefs.

We could see how pushy she was last week, forcing him to jog and then comparing him unfavorably to her ex.

She shouldn't have given him a second thought once she learned he's an atheist. DRAMA QUEEN.

11 hours ago, RealReality said:

I totally agree.

And I'll do you one better......I think he was 200% full of shit when he said he had just signed a lease renewal.  

Typical Robert mindfuck. He promised her a shopping spree. But it's at a thrift store. 🤡 He promised they'd look at upscale apartments. 🎩 But he cannot sign a lease. He promised to marry her. 🐇 But it will be at the courthouse. He promised her an iphone. But it will be an iphone 6. 🤣

3 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I don't think being from Nigeria is a big obstacle to Mycull.  In 2017, over 13,000 Nigerian nationals received US green cards.  In 2016, only 362 Norwegians received green cards.  

Prbly have to compare the numbers of green cards received against green cards applied for. The more obvious obstacle is getting a travel visa. Norweigans can travel freely to the US (visa waiver) and Nigerians cannot. And it's gotten even harder for Nigerians...in the last 3 years.

2 hours ago, charmed1 said:

I feel sorry for Robert’s other four children and I wonder how often he sees them. If I were their mothers, they damned sure wouldn’t be spending the night at his place. If the one kid is sleeping in the bed with him, I’m sure they would be forced to sleep on the floor like little urchins.

I'm assuming the oldest two are much older. When did he leave NYC?

2 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

I feel like Natalie could have found a religious American guy to marry and impregnate her immediately.  There are tons of aging religious strict evangelical guys that think American women ...

But she's Ukranian Orthodox. That's even more "weird" and "nonChristian" than Catholicism. So maybe not the old evangelicals.

[P-bolts]

Why doesn’t someone explain to Juliana that a prenup doesn’t have to be a negative thing? This is a great opportunity for her to say “if we divorce, I will take the house (or equivalent condo etc) and $3000/month for 10 years”. Done ✅ and add more support if they’re are minor children involved.

it would actually give her power and an idea of what would happen. He didn’t explain it well at all for her.

[FrancescaFiore]

10 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

Prbly have to compare the numbers of green cards received against green cards applied for. The more obvious obstacle is getting a travel visa. Norweigans can travel freely to the US (visa waiver) and Nigerians cannot. And it's gotten even harder for Nigerians...in the last 3 years.

Excellent point. And of those travel visas granted to Nigerians, how many were K1 visas? I can't imagine that it's become anything but nightmarish for people trying to bring fiances to the US from any of the derided-as-shithole countries. Case and point, Avery and Omar are never getting approved under the current rules and political climate. 

[OldButHappy]

12 hours ago, Christina said:

Side note here, I've been having a few issues with the popup ad across the bottom, too

Please, mods, can you tell the bosses to lose these ads on the bottom of the page?  They really screw things up...and I'm on a Mac desktop!  Am coming to the site much less often because of the new and annoying ad package!!!!

[RealReality]

18 minutes ago, P-bolts said:

Why doesn’t someone explain to Juliana that a prenup doesn’t have to be a negative thing? This is a great opportunity for her to say “if we divorce, I will take the house (or equivalent condo etc) and $3000/month for 10 years”. Done ✅ and add more support if they’re are minor children involved.

it would actually give her power and an idea of what would happen. He didn’t explain it well at all for her.

I can't see him agreeing to those terms at all while he has all the leverage and power.  

He probably would low ball her in paper and give her some vaguely worded BS about how he would "promise to help her out" even if they broke up.  Which she apparently knows isnt the truth.  

Her purchase of the car makes sense in the context.  

Edited December 16, 2019 by RealReality

[FrancescaFiore]

19 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

Prbly have to compare the numbers of green cards received against green cards applied for. The more obvious obstacle is getting a travel visa. Norweigans can travel freely to the US (visa waiver) and Nigerians cannot. And it's gotten even harder for Nigerians...in the last 3 years.

Excellent point. And of those travel visas granted to Nigerians, how many were K1 visas? I can't imagine that it's become anything but nightmarish for people trying to bring fiances to the US from any of the derided-as-shithole countries. Case and point, Avery and Omar are never getting approved under the current rules and political climate. 

[Frozendiva]

17 minutes ago, P-bolts said:

Why doesn’t someone explain to Juliana that a prenup doesn’t have to be a negative thing? This is a great opportunity for her to say “if we divorce, I will take the house (or equivalent condo etc) and $3000/month for 10 years”. Done ✅ and add more support if they’re are minor children involved.

it would actually give her power and an idea of what would happen. He didn’t explain it well at all for her.

Maybe a divorce settlement would be more lucrative.

Perhaps Michael found a lawyer who speaks Portuguese and maybe even a translator to talk to her and fully explain the pre-nup and the benefit of having one. All done in openness and fairness and transparency for the best interest for both.

[jumper sage]

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

And the way the whole family caterwauled about "American breakfast! American cereal!" like it was the second coming of Christ

I hate cereal and only tried it in my highchair and then dumped it out.  Mom was making me eggs until I could cook myself - for you nonItalians that would be at age 5 or 6.

1 hour ago, Drogo said:

May I kindly remind everyone that it does not say RSVP Frosted Mini Wheats on the Statue of Liberty?!

Here's an American breakfast:

Yep!  I would cancel out the pancakes and one meat,  but for guests I would go the whole nine yards.

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

Maybe he will surprise me and help her to be financially independent....but I doubt it

I do too.  Though she did take the reins and buy that car and leave it so she would have an income stream.  I was impressed.

31 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

Typical Robert mindfuck. He promised her a shopping spree. But it's at a thrift store. 🤡 He promised they'd look at upscale apartments. 🎩 But he cannot sign a lease. He promised to marry her. 🐇 But it will be at the courthouse. He promised her an iphone. But it will be an iphone 6. 🤣

First off - How Robert got a 1 bedroom apartment while having a child is beyond me.  In Michigan you, legally, can't rent a 1 bedroom if you have kids.  You can rent a 2 bedroom with 2 adults and 5 kids, but the kids need their own rooms.  This is for legal apts and not under the table rentals.

He should have already rented a 2 bedroom and trained that child to sleep in his own room long ago.  What a nightmare.

Ukranian lady and religion - she should have swiped right at the get-go.  You can't compromise on something like that.

31 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

But she's Ukranian Orthodox. That's even more "weird" and "nonChristian" than Catholicism. So maybe not the old evangelicals.

The only rule to being a Christian is the belief in Jesus.  I don't know what non-Christians you are thinking of.

I think, while his delivery of his thoughts were weird, the guys belief in aliens is not a "crazy" as the belief is a being who is not of this earth.

Angela/Michael - I liked seeing him with all those kids.  He was really good with them.  He does need to find a young lady and start a family.  Angela was just as nasty as we have seen her.

@charmed1 - 10 points for the Seinfeld reference.  

Edited December 16, 2019 by jumper sage

[jumper sage]

14 minutes ago, OldButHappy said:

Please, mods, can you tell the bosses to lose these ads on the bottom of the page?  They really screw things up...and I'm on a Mac desktop!  Am coming to the site much less often because of the new and annoying ad package!!!!

I agree.  I have had to re start this page 4 times now and I have a huge gaming computer.  I think the quoting is getting messed up too.  I don't know if @BallisticNikki was the author of a quote in my post above.  I don't think so.

[BallisticNikki]

29 minutes ago, P-bolts said:

Why doesn’t someone explain to Juliana that a prenup doesn’t have to be a negative thing? This is a great opportunity for her to say “if we divorce, I will take the house (or equivalent condo etc) and $3000/month for 10 years”. Done ✅ and add more support if they’re are minor children involved.

it would actually give her power and an idea of what would happen. He didn’t explain it well at all for her.

Bc she would awarded something similar to that  ^^^ without a "pre-nut." The pre-nut is to protect his interests over and above what a judge would decree in a typical wife-doesn't-work divorce. There is no way Michael would initiate or execute a pre-nut that gives her power. A pre-nut would limit (slightly or greatly) her potential to collect what she would we eligible to collect in divorce court.

[BallisticNikki]

2 hours ago, jumper sage said:

Ukranian lady and religion - she should have swiped right at the get-go.  You can't compromise on something like that.

The only rule to being a Christian is the belief in Jesus.  I don't know what non-Christians you are thinking of.

The ones evangelicals reject as nonChristian.

And she didn't meet him on a dating app. I'm guessing she was slightly misled bc he agreed to be GODFATHER to the baby and she assumed he was Christian. But obviously, he told her he wasn't eventually. But maybe she had already fallen for him? IDK

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Maybe a divorce settlement would be more lucrative.

Perhaps Michael found a lawyer who speaks Portuguese and maybe even a translator to talk to her and fully explain the pre-nup and the benefit of having one. All done in openness and fairness and transparency for the best interest for both.

Right. That's what I was saying above. She would clean up in a regular divorce. A prenup would never help her.

Edited December 16, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[John M]

41 minutes ago, ChiMama said:

find a younger, more fertile Nigerian wife.

Maybe it's just my visceral hated of children and being in a same-sex marriage but what is with all these people and children? You can just not have them! It's great! We don't and all we have to show for it is freedom, money and a clean house.

Even under ideal circumstances having children is a thing. My parents were millionaires with full time live in help on top of my mother being a stay at home mom and I would describe my mother as, not stellar at being a mother.

[Neurochick]

6 minutes ago, John M said:

Maybe it's just my visceral hated of children and being in a same-sex marriage but what is with all these people and children? You can just not have them! It's great! We don't and all we have to show for it is freedom, money and a clean house.

I've never understood people who hate children; I can however understand why someone wouldn't want to have them.  

I don't think Angela and Michael's story is even real.  It seems like Angela is trying to get on as many version of "90 Day Fiance" possible, kind of like Dani and Nicole.

  

I bet Michael's Visa will be denied, Angela will have to go to Nigeria and she'll be on the new season of "90 Day Fiance, The Other Way."  

[Frozendiva]

@BallisticNikki, Michael could be the type of man who can and may dig things up about Juliana's past to reduce any divorce settlement. In addition to pocketing some money in to her own account, maybe some scrubbing of stuff she'd rather not let be made public in a divorce.

[FrancescaFiore]

4 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I bet Michael's Visa will be denied, Angela will have to go to Nigeria and she'll be on the new season of "90 Day Fiance, The Other Way." 

Nooooooooooo!!!  No more Angela. Enough is enough. (And it was enough last season. Why do the producers of this show hate us so much?)

[OldButHappy]

21 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

The ones evangelicals reject as nonChristian.

Like Catholicism..ha!  One of my clients was a Baptist preacher - growing up Catholic, I had no idea how much Baptists trash-talk Catholics.  Their biggest beef seems to be the statues - idolatry with pagan roots, from a Baptist perspective.  It's all nonsense to me  - as I explain to any fundies interested in saving my soul: "I love God, I just can't work with any of his staff."

[Mr. Miner]

That glimpse we got of Angela's life could double as a trailer for a new horror movie.

[Kellyee]

Quote

Why doesn’t someone explain to Juliana that a prenup doesn’t have to be a negative thing? This is a great opportunity for her to say “if we divorce, I will take the house (or equivalent condo etc) and $3000/month for 10 years”. Done ✅ and add more support if they’re are minor children involved.

it would actually give her power and an idea of what would happen. He didn’t explain it well at all for her.

I don't think Michael wants her to know she has any power. The whole point of marrying a child who doesn't understand how things work in your country is to retain power. If Juliana realizes that she can speak up, then Michael (and his ex-wife) can't control everything anymore.

[Haute Messe]

13 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Anna and Mursel - an almost 40 year old man cannot stand up to his parents and tell them that his fiancé has three kids from a previous marriage. What will happen to him? Can they afford to fly over and do anything to him or drag him home? Will he be left out of the will? They can barely communicate and he is becoming a buzzkill. The bachelorette party was a bit embarrassing - no, I don't want to hear about Mursel's nonvisits to downtown - all that was missing was a bit of Petula Clark. Her friends are right about him - what does she see in him?

I don`t think Mursel has ever been away from his parents before and seems to not have any relationship experience. That bachelorette party was so over the top and way TMI. There must be something wrong with Anna if she thinks that this is all she deserves in a partner.

13 hours ago, Christina said:

Also, if he did recently sign a new lease, and I don't believe anything with this show in general and his story in particular, he can likely move into another apartment in the complex. It's not that dramatic. It does make me wonder if he has any evictions in his past that will effect them, but if there is a two bedroom available in his current complex, he should be able to transfer for less than paying to get out of the lease. Fake fake fake fake fake storyline.

I can’t figure out Robert at all. Maybe he’s a gaslighter in training? I am not an Anny fan, but I am firmly on her side in this apartment situation. Or the whole thing is fake, just like more and more we are seeing on this show.

Whoo boy. Those were the strangest shots of Grangela and her daughter in the car on the way to go “huntin” for a wedding dress. Seatbelts off, then on, then off, then on. Somebody spent a lot of time splicing these scenes together, and who the hell knows what was actually said. Renee and her cohort were so very entertaining with the looks they were giving. Glad to see that she at least kept her pants on under the dress. No doubt a suggestion by the store.

Sasha and Emily aka Hans and Franz. “We going to PUMP you up!” Sasha, you really lost 10 pounds of muscle in 10 days??? How would he know that? Hilarious how Mom and Sis pretty much ignored him at the airport. That whole cereal debacle was totally scripted, but was he flirting with her mom when they left to go to the gym?

Juliana acts like a child and Michael treats her like a possession. He wants full control of her. I can’t imagine she has had a huge modelling career, or you’d think she would have had something to show for it. Wonder why Michael “kicked her out”.

Natalie - I can kind of understand her thinking it is important to have the same religious views as your partner in terms of raising kids, but there are lots of interfaith marriages that work! She is very judgemental and apparently an emotional loony. Run, Michael.

[RealReality]

28 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

@BallisticNikki, Michael could be the type of man who can and may dig things up about Juliana's past to reduce any divorce settlement. In addition to pocketing some money in to her own account, maybe some scrubbing of stuff she'd rather not let be made public in a divorce.

Unless what he digs up is a fund of offshore assets I don't see how that would impact a divorce settlement. 

If she has some well funded offshore accounts....then maybe she does have a shot at a career in acting, because her poverty seems pretty authentic to me. 

[PityFree]

 I was getting ready to comment that Beekeeper Anna is too old to be wearing such short skirts, but then I looked again and realized that she actually has very pretty legs. Why not show them off?  Her dress was otherwise age-appropriate. 

 It reminds me of my mom who has lovely, flawless legs and wore short shorts well into her mid-60s.  Not many women can pull that off after the mid 30s, but if you can? go for it!

[libgirl2]

Emily is an idiot and Sasha is no gift to women. I think he is in competition with Robert to see how many kids he can have with multiple women. I wouldn't touch him (or Robert) with a ten foot pole. 

Michael chose Juliana for a reason, dangle that green card and he can get everything he wants. If it doesn't work out, he keeps everything he wants. Plus he likes them real young. He is gross and is yet another guy I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. 

[doyouevengohere]

1 hour ago, BallisticNikki said:

But she's Ukranian Orthodox. That's even more "weird" and "nonChristian" than Catholicism. So maybe not the old evangelicals.

She still has a one up on all the fat American whores according to them probably.  True, they are probably into Filipino women, but after their 2nd divorce they would probably be willing to try an orthodox woman that can cook and only wants sex and kids.

[gotta watch]

Y'all know the saying "you made me spit coffee on my keyboard?" Well I just laughed so hard at the Seinfeld/alien references I sucked a piece of potato chip down my windpipe 😂

[John M]

51 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I've never understood people who hate children;

Order and process are the things that keep me sane in this crazy world and children are the opposite of that.

Conversation with co-worker:

"You know when you misplace your keys?"

"No? Why would I misplace my keys? They keys are in the key bowl."

"OK, but what if they weren't?"

"But they won't, the keys are in the key bowl where they keys live"

"OK, but say they weren't"

"But that is a thing that wouldn't happen, we might as well be speculating on if my dog learned to play chess"

[RealReality]

18 minutes ago, John M said:

Order and process are the things that keep me sane in this crazy world and children are the opposite of that.

Conversation with co-worker:

"You know when you misplace your keys?"

"No? Why would I misplace my keys? They keys are in the key bowl."

"OK, but what if they weren't?"

"But they won't, the keys are in the key bowl where they keys live"

"OK, but say they weren't"

"But that is a thing that wouldn't happen, we might as well be speculating on if my dog learned to play chess"

But what if your dog learned to play chess though?  LOL.  

Kids are fun to be around, but then I go home and nap!