S03.E13: Against All Odds/S03.E14: Tell All

[endure]

6 hours ago, Drogo said:

You can only ask me one question, so make it a good one. 

ex:  "What's your favorite seasonal Frappuccino?"

What’s your favourite colour?

Edited October 30, 2019 by endure

[Jel]

This show could save a lot of time if they dispensed with the scenes of people arriving in their cars, and walking to the stage (so many walks to the stage!). That annoyed the hell out of me.

[Drogo]

3 minutes ago, endure said:

What’s your favourite colour?

Cloudy.

[cinsays]

19 minutes ago, Jel said:

This show could save a lot of time if they dispensed with the scenes of people arriving in their cars, and walking to the stage (so many walks to the stage!). That annoyed the hell out of me.

Yeah, who the hell cares to see any of that?

That and having to watch those dreadful nail commercials was driving me crazy.

[doyouevengohere]

1 hour ago, nytonc said:

I agree. There would have to be an assumed risk of assault, especially with the she-beast Huge Ange in the cast. Didn’t she assault Mahkul last season?

Rebecca has come out today and said it was true and TLC did not show the whole fight.  Avery commented that Skyla and Angela rushed at her mom and both of them pushed her backwards.  Avery grabbed her mom away and Angela was so mad she kicked the coffee table.  She said her mom did not press charges because she wasn't hurt at all, but plenty of people are telling her to do it now.  I'm sure TLC pressured them to not press charges and gave them some extra money or something.    Angela can run her gross mouth all she wants, but when you put your hands on someone in anger it's a completely different story.  Rebecca also said Angela chest bumped her about 5 times.  The cast refused to film with her after the "fight" and TLC took her out and filmed her segment the next day or something.

Edited October 30, 2019 by doyouevengohere

[lovesnark]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Like on Judge Judy, "You didn't bring them? Where did you think you were coming today, the beach?" 

Remember, both Darcey and Stacey have been down the aisle before. 

Yes, and they were both divorced on the exact same day😂 I doubt Darcey gave much thought to what her first marriage would entail, only the wedding, and I don't think any of that has changed. She is such a sucking hole of neediness, I don't think there is a human alive that could give her the constant validation and adoration she craves.

Did you catch Tom saying how he found her crying in the hotel bar with some guy draped around her? Darcey said the rando stranger was comforting her. So, she comes to NYC to tape the Tell Nothing, gets hammered and winds up slobbering and ugly crying on some random guy's shoulder because she wasn't getting the attention she craves almost as much as wine.

[Neurochick]

8 hours ago, b2H said:

You notice that she was escorted off the stage and out of the building after all of that.  There's no more Angela after that and that poor excuse for a human should never be allowed back in the franchise.  She's so full of herself that she doesn't realize she just lost her income supplement.  If she does come back next season, a lot of letters need to be written to get her out of there.

Bondy Blue, who reviews the show on YouTube also said that Angela and her daughter got in a fight with Avery and her mother.  That's why Angela was gone and Michael was still there she did more than make contact with Avery's finger.  I know she Tweets with several people in the show, maybe Rebecca told her.

However, I wish Angela had been there when Maria came on.  Everybody was sooooo nice to Maria.  Angela would have hauled off and called her a prostitute.  (I mean let's face it that's what she is)

I don't think Angela is going anywhere though, as long as Michael wants to film with her she's still there.  

I doubt any letters will be written if Angela comes back next season.  I remember MTV's Real World and Road Rules had no violence policies, which sort of made sense.  However I wrote a letter to them because on Road Rules a white male who was over 6 feet called a black female who was under five feet the "N" word.  She slapped him and then SHE was taken off the show.  I wrote and said that calling someone the "N" word was the same as slapping them.  About a decade later it seemed like everybody was getting into it on Real World.  The fact that TLC didn't show the fight between Angela and her daughter and Avery and her mother says a lot.  All we have to go on are people's say so and today everybody wants to see the "receipt."

Edited October 31, 2019 by Neurochick

[lovesnark]

6 hours ago, Normades said:

You forgot the horse drawn Cinderella carriage.  Other than that you're spot on (as Tom would say).

A Swarovski crystal encrusted Cinderella carriage! The horses will have crystal encrusted harnesses, too.

[Twopper]

1 hour ago, endure said:

What’s your favourite colour?

When Tom's sister asked Darcy if she knew Tom's favorite colour. all I could think of was the Bridge of Death scene in Monty Python~~

Bridge Keeper: What is your quest?

Galahad: I seek the grail.

Bridge Keeper: What is your favourite colour?

Galahad: Blue, no yellow...argh.... [Galahad plunges off]

33 minutes ago, lovesnark said:

Did you catch Tom saying how he found her crying in the hotel bar with some guy draped around her? Darcey said the rando stranger was comforting her. So, she comes to NYC to tape the Tell Nothing, gets hammered and winds up slobbering and ugly crying on some random guy's shoulder because she wasn't getting the attention she craves almost as much as wine.

I think they should get rid of Darcy now, but they will probably bring her back. 

Does anyone know why Rebecca's friend was brought on?  She added nothing, plus her sitting with her legs crossed at the knee was distracting.  I didn't care for Skylar being there, but I understand that they needed to have her for the discussion about egg toting.  There's a scene where Angela is in the car with Mychul and she talks about having children.  Not a child ,but children.  I am not sure he is all that eager to have kids, but he wants to make his mama happy.

1 hour ago, doyouevengohere said:

Rebecca has come out today and said it was true and TLC did not show the whole fight.  Avery commented that Skyla and Angela rushed at her mom and both of them pushed her backwards.  Avery grabbed her mom away and Angela was so mad she kicked the coffee table. 

That's awful, but I am not that surprised about Angela.  I am surprised the daughter joined it, but all we have seen of her is her refusing to donate and/or tote the egg.   Wouldn't they harvest multiple eggs if she agreed?  Maybe Angela would end up pg with multiples.  I doubt she has the money for in vitro.   Maybe we will never see Angela again, and Mychul will return to the show with a younger American woman.   He must really, really, really want to come to the USA.

[Spike]

24 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Bondy Blue, who reviews the show on YouTube also said that Angela and her daughter got in a fight with Avery and her mother.  That's why Angela was gone and Michael was still there she did more than make contact with Avery's finger.  I know she Tweets with several people in the show, maybe Rebecca told her.

However, I wish Angela had been there when Maria came on.  Everybody was sooooo nice to Maria.  Angela would have hauled off and called her a prostitute.  (I mean let's face it that's what she is)

I don't think Angela is going anywhere though, as long as Michael wants to film with her she's still there.  

I doubt any letters will be written if Angela comes back next season.  I remember MTV's Real World and Road Rules had no violence policies, which sort of made sense.  However I wrote a letter to them because on Road Rules a white male who was over 6 feet called a black female who was under five feet the "N" word.  She slapped him and then SHE was taken off the show.  I wrote and said that calling someone the "N" word was the same as slapping them.  About a decade later it seemed like everybody was getting into it on Real World.  The fact that TLC didn't show the fight between Angela and her daughter and Avery and her mother says a lot.  All we have to go on are people's say so and today everybody wants to see the "receipt."

Words never justify hitting someone. 

[Tuneful]

Darcey's drinking is mentioned frequently. But I think Big Ange has that problem as well. I bet she nips all day long. I grew up with that issue in a parent and two siblings and can spot it from miles away. Whenever they aren't buzzed they are ornery as hell, because they're hungover and/or counting the minutes until they can start again. Man, the drinking on this show...also including Debbie and (IMHO) Emma...if true, might explain why Emma was so loud and belligerent this time. And how about Zied, who should have three or four hands to shovel everything in? Debbie doesn't bother me, I think she's funny, at least as portrayed, and she doesn't seem to pick fights. Weird relationship with her son? A thousand times yes. And Bikini needs to take her whiny, humorless little squeak far, far away from me...what an act, puts the Royal Shakespeare Company to shame. 

[RealReality]

3 hours ago, nytonc said:

I picture her backstage with a can of red spray paint. Instant Louboutins!

Pfffffft.  No need for all that effort! 

[Neurochick]

33 minutes ago, Tuneful said:

Darcey's drinking is mentioned frequently. But I think Big Ange has that problem as well. I bet she nips all day long. I grew up with that issue in a parent and two siblings and can spot it from miles away. Whenever they aren't buzzed they are ornery as hell, because they're hungover and/or counting the minutes until they can start again. Man, the drinking on this show...also including Debbie and (IMHO) Emma...if true, might explain why Emma was so loud and belligerent this time. And how about Zied, who should have three or four hands to shovel everything in? Debbie doesn't bother me, I think she's funny, at least as portrayed, and she doesn't seem to pick fights. Weird relationship with her son? A thousand times yes. And Bikini needs to take her whiny, humorless little squeak far, far away from me...what an act, puts the Royal Shakespeare Company to shame. 

Who is Bikini?

Quote

Words never justify hitting someone. 

And that's why I don't agree with a "zero tolerance" policy.  Each case needs to be looked at separately.  And being called the "N" word is very much like being slapped, I know.

Edited October 31, 2019 by Neurochick

[RealReality]

49 minutes ago, lovesnark said:

A Swarovski crystal encrusted Cinderella carriage! The horses will have crystal encrusted harnesses, too.

You'll be able to see Darcy's hypothetical wedding from the international space station. 

2 hours ago, Cherrio said:

I bet the expiration date on that stuff is 1995.

Right?  Candy underwear isn't an aphrodisiac, it's a punchline to a golden girls joke. 

[AZChristian]

4 hours ago, mochamajesty said:

Not to mention the too high slit on Stacy’s dress. I held my breath when she sat down I thought she was gonna flash us.

I'm not sure she didn't.  LOL.

[Spike]

9 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Who is Bikini?

And that's why I don't agree with a "zero tolerance" policy.  Each case needs to be looked at separately.  And being called the "N" word is very much like being slapped, I know.

We all have words that push our buttons.  It doesn’t justify hitting.

[nytonc]

1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

A Swarovski crystal encrusted Cinderella carriage! The horses will have crystal encrusted harnesses, too.

And mane extensions!

Huge Ange raised a sex offender and a brawler. Where is the sex offender going to live when she gets out of the Big  House?  Mahkul better rethink having a child related to or exposed to anyone in that bloodline.

Edited October 31, 2019 by nytonc

[Teri313]

2 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Rebecca has come out today and said it was true and TLC did not show the whole fight.  Avery commented that Skyla and Angela rushed at her mom and both of them pushed her backwards.  Avery grabbed her mom away and Angela was so mad she kicked the coffee table.  She said her mom did not press charges because she wasn't hurt at all, but plenty of people are telling her to do it now.  I'm sure TLC pressured them to not press charges and gave them some extra money or something.    Angela can run her gross mouth all she wants, but when you put your hands on someone in anger it's a completely different story.  Rebecca also said Angela chest bumped her about 5 times.  The cast refused to film with her after the "fight" and TLC took her out and filmed her segment the next day or something.

Okay, this explains why we never saw a scene from the previews where Avery is standing with her back to the camera and has someone in front of her who she has her arm around, like she's trying to shield this person. She looks back toward the camera and she is clearly distraught. You can just see part of the person's shirt, which, after watching the show, is Teri's. But they never aired that scene. I was waiting for it, but it didn't happen.

[Jeanne222]

43 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Who is Bikini?

And that's why I don't agree with a "zero tolerance" policy.  Each case needs to be looked at separately.  And being called the "N" word is very much like being slapped, I know.

Akini is bikini!!!  Lol

[lovesnark]

20 minutes ago, nytonc said:

And mane extensions!

Huge Ange raised a sex offender and a brawler. Where is the sex offender going to live when she gets out of the Big  House?  Mahkul better rethink having a child related to or exposed to anyone in that bloodline.

Tail extensions are a thing, I'm sure the fake hair queen could arrange for some mane extensions, too.

Huge Ange's daughter will have to register as a sex offender for the rest of her life. If the blonde behemoth is planning on letting Scottie parole to her house, no kids can be there. 

I really, really hope the whole Mahkul and Angela is just another fraud perpetrated by TLC because I'd hate to see what will undoubtedly happen to him if he marries her and moves to rural Georgia. She'll beat the shit out of him and he'll wind up going to jail because she'll lie about it. There has to be a non violent woman who is able to bear children that would like to marry Mahkul and bring him to the US.

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Jel said:

This show could save a lot of time if they dispensed with the scenes of people arriving in their cars, and walking to the stage (so many walks to the stage!).

And how much time did we waste seeing people get on and off that elevator with the shiny silver swirls on the wall? 

[Spike]

39 minutes ago, magemaud said:

And how much time did we waste seeing people get on and off that elevator with the shiny silver swirls on the wall? 

I kinda like that elevator.  Is it hammered tin?

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

I kinda like that elevator.  Is it hammered tin?

Yeah, something "industrial chic" like that. 

[Armchair Critic]

On 10/29/2019 at 11:52 AM, nytonc said:

Darcy does not contribute one word to the group discussions. She’s so self-absorbed and if it’s not about her, she has nothing to say.  Of course she’s also dumber than a sponge. Her thoughts run about as deep as a puddle. Go read another Victorian romance novel Darcy. 

Not that Tom is a prince but I can't blame him for being bored with her. She was so keen on getting him into bed because that's how she thinks she can keep a man interested. That's why somebody like Jesse is a better match because he is just as superficial as she is.

[Anduril]

I haven't read all the thread yet but I just want to say: Jesse did nothing wrong.

[blubld43]

10 hours ago, Neurochick said:

11 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I doubt any letters will be written if Angela comes back next season.  I remember MTV's Real World and Road Rules had no violence policies, which sort of made sense.  However I wrote a letter to them because on Road Rules a white male who was over 6 feet called a black female who was under five feet the "N" word.  She slapped him and then SHE was taken off the show.  I wrote and said that calling someone the "N" word was the same as slapping them.  About a decade later it seemed like everybody was getting into it on Real World.  The fact that TLC didn't show the fight between Angela and her daughter and Avery and her mother says a lot.  All we have to go on are people's say so and today everybody wants to see the "receipt."

I never saw that show but am appalled to read this. It really started me thinking, are we encouraging this kind of disgusting behavior, when we tune in every week? Of course we are.  I loathe and despise racism, but here I am watching beefaroni Angela every week, abusing this black man, knowing if he makes it to the US, he's going to be in a world of hurt. Doesn't take a crystal ball to see the position he will find himself in, and that's his real life, not a tv show.

Thinking, it's not what TLC wants from us.

[KateHearts]

11 hours ago, Tuneful said:

Darcey's drinking is mentioned frequently. But I think Big Ange has that problem as well. I bet she nips all day long. I grew up with that issue in a parent and two siblings and can spot it from miles away. Whenever they aren't buzzed they are ornery as hell, because they're hungover and/or counting the minutes until they can start again.

Add to that her nicotine addiction- remember the scene in the car when she goes to light up, Michael gives her a look and she goes off on him? Something like "I'M GONNA SMOKE, MAHKUL!!"

10 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Who is Bikini?

That's been the name used here  often to refer to Akinyi.

[Crazydoxielady]

Maria was such a stuck up snobby prostitute. Doesn't she know part of playing that role is being charming? I have zero sympathy for Caesar if he continues to try to be with her. You could see he was still bedazzled by her, and his only question was "are you seeing anyone?"

Avery had all of this coming. I feel but so bad that she put herself in this pickle. She has gained all the weight her cutie pie mom has lost. That bracelet is about to cut off her circulation. Her crying and carrying on about a past abusive relationship was too much. Girlfriend, you are 19. Beyond the obvious baggage you carry do we need to hear about even more?

Jesse is a tool but did nothing wrong. TLC invited him, he thought it a good time to showcase his one man show of love tips for seniors.  I blame TLC not him for him showing up. I blame Angela for the fight, she had no dog in that fight and needs to have several seats. I feel so bad for Michael, I for one would be happy to not see him exploited next season, and really don't want to see any more trash from this family. She raised a child molester and now put hands on both Rebecca and Avery's mom on television. TLC needs to realize she is a liability, and is not entertaining in the least. TLC also needs to invest in security along the lines of Basketball Wives or Love and Hip Hop if they decide to bring her back. That wilder beast offers nothing ladylike and clearly enjoys getting physical and pushing her almighty weight around. 

I fast forward thru Ben and Akini, so not interested.

Rebecca certainly gets around. Three bad marriages, a relationship with women, and now a new beau 21 years her junior that barely speaks English? Girlfriend will go to the end of the earth to get that D. My goodness. Have some shame. Interesting to hear she is a restaurant GM. I would die laughing if I had a complaint with my food and she came over to apologize. 

[Normades]

47 minutes ago, Crazydoxielady said:

Her crying and carrying on about a past abusive relationship was too much.

I felt like this initially and I thought she was carrying on for screen time, but there's some speculation that Angela and her daughter were actually physical with Avery and her mother.  Since Avery has experienced abuse in the past, I can see her really being shook up with those behemoths coming after her, so now I give her a pass. 

[Spike]

56 minutes ago, Crazydoxielady said:

You could see he was still bedazzled by her, and his only question was "are you seeing anyone?"

I guess he thought she should remain celibate for five years.

58 minutes ago, Crazydoxielady said:

Have some shame. Interesting to hear she is a restaurant GM. I would die laughing if I had a complaint with my food and she came over to apologize. 

She said she could hire Zied.  Like Chubby McChubster should be around food all day.

[mytmo]

Maria is like a slot machine where the more money you pump into it the bigger the payout.  Caesar ran out of credits.

She's a glorified web cam girl.  Caesar thinks he deserves a Lamborghini when all he can afford is a bus pass.  He deserves every blow he's been dealt.

[RealReality]

23 minutes ago, Spike said:

I guess he thought she should remain celibate for five years.

She said she could hire Zied.  Like Chubby McChubster should be around food all day.

The mystery is that he thought they were in a relationship at all.  

I thought Rebecca was a private investigator?  Is that just a side hustle?

[Bugfrey Von]

21 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

I agree. I'm sure they're encouraged to "air their feelings" and "don't hold back". And the boredom must be staggering. Anything to lighten the tedium.

And Angela is full of shit. Its not her business either. The way she swanned in with Jesse, introducing him around like she was Queen Hostess. I bet she invited him to visit her in Georgia. Maybe she could fix him up with Skylar.

Yes, this. She is not funny and she's not the one you love to hate. She's meaner than catshit, as my dad used to say. She's a very angry and violent person, ugly inside and out.

Is that the African swallow or the European swallow?

YES.  Honestly, it should have been all over for her when she assaulted Michael and her daughter was jailed for being a fucking sex offender.  She's insane.  

Also, just as a side note (I'm watching the episode bit by bit bc I can only handle finite amounts of bullshit before my eyeballs start to hurt from rolling.....) but Avery needs to chill with the advice giving.  You're 19.  Calm down.  I giggle thinking about her brother saying how she'd sneak meat upstairs when she was a "vegetarian".  Classic Avery.

Caesar and that jean jacket.  Tragic.  Maria can get it.  A fool and his money are soon parted and if not her, then some other catfish.  Did anyone catch his tiny tiny tiny TINY tie in that video he sent to her telling her he looked sexy?  I might actually like Caesar.  Shit.  

Edited October 31, 2019 by Bugfrey Von

[Anduril]

Like someone up-thread said, many European prostitutes (as well as American actresses and models) will go to Dubai to have all sorts of degrading things done to them by some Arab prince.  They'll do anything for the right price; that's just the kind of women they are.  This is what Maria is.  She's basically a prostitute who would have no problem with chocolate panties or a whip if the price was right.  

I really, really want to believe this show is genuine but Cesar got me very close to thinking the whole thing is fake.  

I like Jesse because his mere presence caused all sorts of drama and he has been consistently right about Darcey, especially in regards to her drinking.  I don't understand where Avery's anger came from and it was really confusing.  

Darcey and her sister are disgusting women.  I can't wait until fish lips go out of style.  When you present yourself like that, it's not hard for people to just view you as a collection of body parts.  In my opinion, being engaged for three years is stupid.  Shit or get off the pot.  I'm sure Stacey is just engaged to say she's engaged.  Neither one of those women come across as real humans; just a collection of fakeness that's only concerned with appearances.  I can't say I care what happens to them and sometimes I actually hope they end up unhappy.  If I felt like they were real people, I might care.

I love Tom.  He is stone cold and deserves better than an old, dried out, plastic piece of trash.  I don't understand how anyone could love Darcey.  

I can't blame for Angela being physical with Avery.  Maybe that's what she should have gotten all along.  Maybe then she wouldn't have converted to Islam and get married to a man on the other side of the planet in a war-torn country.  

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, Crazydoxielady said:

Maria was such a stuck up snobby prostitute. Doesn't she know part of playing that role is being charming? I have zero sympathy for Caesar if he continues to try to be with her. 

Given that he had packed a whip as part of the Mexican "getting to know you" vacation, I suspect theirs is more of a BDSM relationship, with her as the dominatrix and him as the submissive.

Maybe he would do better to hook up with Angela.  She loves smacking black men around, and they live a lot closer together already.

[RealReality]

Just now, mytmo said:

Maria is like a slot machine where the more money you pump into it the bigger the payout.  Caesar ran out of credits.

She's a glorified web cam girl.  Caesar thinks he deserves a Lamborghini when all he can afford is a bus pass.  He deserves every blow he's been dealt.

Is she even that?  There is a web cam girl on LAL and someone said that those girls are directed to do certain acts and take off clothes.  

I don't get the impression Maria sent any nudes.  I think she generally sent generic videos, right?  

Ceasar maybe got a racy pic or two in lingerie, which I think would have just fed into ceasars delusion that he was in a "relationship" with a good, innocent girl who was too classy to send him nudes.  

[AZChristian]

14 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I don't get the impression Maria sent any nudes.  I think she generally sent generic videos, right?  

Depends on how many credits he bought on the webcam girl site.  If he "sent" her as much he claims he did, he could very easily have bought some nude videos.

And the reason she doesn't know how much he sent "her" was that the money came through the real accountant at the website headquarters.  She just got a check every month for her portion of what people paid to look at/interact with her.

[lh25]

12 hours ago, RealReality said:

Right?  Candy underwear isn't an aphrodisiac, it's a punchline to a golden girls joke. 

Or maybe something a long term couple tries out for fun.  Not something for the first time you meet your "girlfriend"

[Dobian]

14 hours ago, lovesnark said:

Yes, and they were both divorced on the exact same day😂 I doubt Darcey gave much thought to what her first marriage would entail, only the wedding, and I don't think any of that has changed. She is such a sucking hole of neediness, I don't think there is a human alive that could give her the constant validation and adoration she craves.

Did you catch Tom saying how he found her crying in the hotel bar with some guy draped around her? Darcey said the rando stranger was comforting her. So, she comes to NYC to tape the Tell Nothing, gets hammered and winds up slobbering and ugly crying on some random guy's shoulder because she wasn't getting the attention she craves almost as much as wine.

I'm sure Darcey and Stacey's behavior goes back to junior high school, their whole concept of "relationships" is to have the most desirable guys they can get to slobber all over them and let them know how hot they are.  It's how they get their validation and self-worth.  They're a the developmental level of a 14 year old.  The only difference is that Darcey is the needy whiny one, and Stacey is the mean girl one.

[Lady Iris]

2 hours ago, Anduril said:

I haven't read all the thread yet but I just want to say: Jesse did nothing wrong.

He walked in, was very polite, tried introducing himself and being pleasant. In that moment, there was no cause for Tim and Avery to jump over him they way they did.

Every time Avery sobbed about her whatever, all I could see was this

[ohcomeon]

45 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Is she even that?  There is a web cam girl on LAL and someone said that those girls are directed to do certain acts and take off clothes.  

I don't get the impression Maria sent any nudes.  I think she generally sent generic videos, right?  

Ceasar maybe got a racy pic or two in lingerie, which I think would have just fed into ceasars delusion that he was in a "relationship" with a good, innocent girl who was too classy to send him nudes.  

Based on the fact that Ceasar was comfortable taking chocolate underwear (and letting the audience know he did) and his hammer remark, I was under the impression there was some pretty strong sexting or web foreplay. Whether it was live or if it was just recorded videos she sent, I have no idea. But I don't think there interaction was just lacy lingerie pics.

[Dobian]

52 minutes ago, mytmo said:

Maria is like a slot machine where the more money you pump into it the bigger the payout.  Caesar ran out of credits.

She's a glorified web cam girl.  Caesar thinks he deserves a Lamborghini when all he can afford is a bus pass.  He deserves every blow he's been dealt.

Of course a real host and not Shaun Robinson would have asked her, who is paying for these trips you take to Dubai and the rest of the world?  The answer would be the men who go on this "dating" site that is actually an online hooker site.  The difference between them and Caesar is they just want her for a fun weekend, Caesar wants to marry her.  She prefers the fun weekend.

[Pepper Mostly]

19 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

Speaking of Jesse's TOTALLY GRATUITOUS BARE ASSED shower scene.....

Dear TLC,

Jesse is NOT HOT. He's not handsome and he's not charming. Please send him back to the Netherlands and let us live our lives forever Jesse-free. Thank you.

Love,
Pepper Mostly

14 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I doubt any letters will be written if Angela comes back next season.  I remember MTV's Real World and Road Rules had no violence policies, which sort of made sense.  However I wrote a letter to them because on Road Rules a white male who was over 6 feet called a black female who was under five feet the "N" word.  She slapped him and then SHE was taken off the show.  I wrote and said that calling someone the "N" word was the same as slapping them.  About a decade later it seemed like everybody was getting into it on Real World.  The fact that TLC didn't show the fight between Angela and her daughter and Avery and her mother says a lot.  All we have to go on are people's say so and today everybody wants to see the "receipt."

I remember that. And I remember when people were kicked off "Top Chef" for assaulting another cheftestant, even though it was a "joke".

Angela wants reality TV fame, and she's prepared to do any outrageous thing she can think of. And the goal posts keep getting moved.

[LilaFowler]

I thought the Jesse segment was hilarious. All I could think of was Harlan Pepper from Best in Show doing his lasso show at the VFW.

[RealReality]

14 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Dear TLC,

Jesse is NOT HOT. He's not handsome and he's not charming. Please send him back to the Netherlands and let us live our lives forever Jesse-free. Thank you.

Love,
Pepper Mostly

I remember that. And I remember when people were kicked off "Top Chef" for assaulting another cheftestant, even though it was a "joke".

According to Jesse's cartoon stepdad women are flinging their panties at him in the streets of Amsterdam.

That "top chef" incident was an awful example of how people can so awful things when they have an easy victim and a mob mentality.  Watching that video was way uncomfortable.  I don't think I'd ever seen tom c. so mad. 

[Pepper Mostly]

2 minutes ago, RealReality said:

According to Jesse's cartoon stepdad women are flinging their panties at him in the streets of Amsterdam.

Yeah, Jesse's stepdad needed to get his eyes checked. Sheesh. I mean, there are guys who aren't conventionally good looking who are dead sexy. There are good looking men who are about as magnetic as a bowl of vanilla yogurt. Jesse is neither good looking nor sexy.

[RealReality]

26 minutes ago, ohcomeon said:

Based on the fact that Ceasar was comfortable taking chocolate underwear (and letting the audience know he did) and his hammer remark, I was under the impression there was some pretty strong sexting or web foreplay. Whether it was live or if it was just recorded videos she sent, I have no idea. But I don't think there interaction was just lacy lingerie pics.

I suspect that 95% of that came from him and whoever was playing Maria on phone or text was just "mmm hmm'ing" him. 

Is Anastasia date or whatever this site is a webcam site?  I don't want Google thinking I'm into that sort of thing so I won't look it up, but I got the impression it was geared towards guys like ceasar looking for the "girlfriend experience" with a woman who they think is going to be their life mate or whatever.

I agree that Maria probably is not above....escorting?  But for rich dudes in Dubai, not poor men doing nails.  

[Spike]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

The mystery is that he thought they were in a relationship at all.  

I thought Rebecca was a private investigator?  Is that just a side hustle?

She said part time.

[doyouevengohere]

Shawn tried harder to get the truth about what happened backstage with Jesse than she has on any tell all trying to get the truth about what happened with any of the couples during that season.

Here is a 90 days horror story for everyone for Halloween:

You start feeling sick so you go to the doctor.  You are shown into a room and told to wait for the nurse.  The door opens and in walks Danielle of the googly eyes.  As she stares at the wall and you at the same time, she tells you she will have to take some blood.  She holds you down and jabs you like fifty times while you scream in anguish.  Finally she finds your vein and manages to take your blood.  "The doctor will be right in" she exclaims as she exits , eyes agoogling.   YOu wait curled up on the table wanting to cry.  The door opens and in walks Ledia,  "Hi, I the doctor" she snarls in broken English.  "You got the shits or what?" she asks.  YOu try to tell her what is wrong with you, but she tells you to shut up and then says, "I no like you , I don't accept this, you not proper; I give you Elboa now " as she injects you with something and spits on you and leaves.  YOu get instantly sicker and can't move.  YOu are rolled off to a care home where upon your arrival you must sit in the lobby and listen to a man named Jesse spout off about his life and loves while they get your room ready.  YOu pray for death to come and finally you are rolled into your room.  "Hi hon" and nurse named Anglea enters, "be with you in a moment!" .  She appears to be in a fight with someone over the phone, "MYCUL STOP LYIN!" she brays.   Finally she hangs up and hooks you up to a machine.  Her phone rings again and she answers it where apparently MYCUL is forgiven and they start to have phone sex.  YOu go into a coma and welcome death.  

Edited October 31, 2019 by doyouevengohere

[Spike]

31 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Jesse is neither good looking nor sexy.

He looks like a grown up Dennis the Menace.