S04.E04: Trash Talk

[OnceSane]

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In Mexico, day two kicks off with a polo match, a talking horse, cartwheels, and tequila, but Stephanie has a hard time finding the fun; Kameron and Brandi find themselves at odds over LeeAnne's behavior; an explosive argument erupts.

Airs September 25, 2019.

[Keywestclubkid]

Omg I just wanna hug Stephanie and like just tell her constantly that she matters. Her crying saying she has to fake being happy or no one would be her friend was the saddest thing ever. 

[TexasGal]

Cracks me up that LeeAnne and D’Andra keep getting left alone.  

Ok, I love Stephanie but that TH with the pink dress - why no bra Stephanie?!  Bad. Look.

How mortified is D’Andra going to be when she sees herself so super drunk?  She’s hilarious, but wow. 

[ghoulina]

I'm sorry, running up all those steps doesn't sound like my idea of a vacation. 

I about started bawling when Stephanie said, "No one would want to be my friend if I was honest about what I deal with." Honey, I would. You are worthy. ALL of you.

I would totally be with Kam on her reaction to the giant meditation bowl. It was cool and the views we stunning, but I guarantee I'd feel exactly the same after.

That dinner was a mess. And I'm looking at you, D'andra and Brandi. D'andra insisting that Kary and Steph talk in front of them was suspect as hell. And then when they were nicely conversing with one another, Brandi starts chiming in and KEEPS chiming in. Nothing but trouble.

I really didn't feel sorry for, being triggered by the "trash" comment. She was behaving like trash at that dinner. Kam isn't the first person to say something. If the shoe fits...

D'andra in the sand with Spanx is no Luann in the bushes. 

[chewycandy]

This ep was gold and reminded me of the New York ladies. 

Kary seems like a good person. “Leeanne’s little dingleberry.” Lol!

D’andra. Go to sleep, GO TO SLEEP! 

[Duke2801]

Stephanie is too pure for this show. She has such a kind heart. Her friendship with Brandi is one of Brandi’s few redeeming qualities. 

Those flashbacks of Leanne really emphasize how overboard she’s gone with the fillers—not to mention the insane extensions. She was so beautiful before. 

Drunk D’andra is ... something else. 

Not sure how I feel about Kary yet. I certainly appreciate the vacation home porn that she brings. But, for a “new girl” she seemed a little too up in everyone’s business. 

[Anonysaurus]

Leeanne and Kam have teamed up because they both follow the same pattern -- get on their high horses, act a jerk, deflect and deny, play the victim, give a fake apology.

[breezy424]

Yeah.  No to those stairs.  They're concrete with no real handrail.  They're were even spots where you couldn't grab the concrete semi wall.  Nope.  Not me.

I'm finding Kary more and more annoying.

I couldn't figure out why Brandi and Kam were fighting.  How the heck did all that start.  And Kam you're no victim.  You threw a napkin at Brandi.  What is with these housewives on trips this week?  Hitting someone on the head?  Throwing a napkin?  WTF.

D'Anra....  Yeah.  That behavior is going to help your company's image.

I love Steph.

[AttackTurtle]

Stephanie’s talking head was heart breaking.  She’s one of the only truly decent people on all these shows.  I’ve liked her from the start, but she rose to the top of all howives when she donated her bone marrow to a stranger.  

I can understand why Brandi was hurt.  Brandi doesn’t cause any more scenes than Leanne and Cam gives Leanne a break every single damn time.  Brandi offends her and she’s trash.  

Im on the fence with Cary.

Deandra was a hot mess.  I kind of loved the reactions of everyone in regards to her drunkenness.  Brandi’s quote that Deandra was like a child to take care of cracked me up.

[bichonblitz]

Lol, D'Andra with her granny panty spanx! How can she not be mortified when she sobers up and see's that footage? Sexy she ain't. She's not just a bitch, from what we heard this episode she's also a huge slob.

[Misslindsey]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

That dinner was a mess. And I'm looking at you, D'andra and Brandi. D'andra insisting that Kary and Steph talk in front of them was suspect as hell. And then when they were nicely conversing with one another, Brandi starts chiming in and KEEPS chiming in. Nothing but trouble.

I really didn't feel sorry for, being triggered by the "trash" comment. She was behaving like trash at that dinner. Kam isn't the first person to say something. If the shoe fits...

I agree with you on both points. I hated that D'Andra insisted that Kary and Leanne speak at the table. They were having a civil conversation, but others kept interjecting.

I did not feel sorry for Brandi and the trash comment either. Kam may be annoying, but overall I find her harmless. Though I am probably biased because I cannot stand Brandi. I feel like she rarely gets called out on her behavior. 

I hope this season is not most of the group against Leanne. It is time to get a new storyline show.

I did not get why D'Andra seemed annoyed that her husband was not at her office. Please tell me he is not substitute D'Andra while she is away. 

I do not really like Kary. She seems to be in everyone's business. 

[ShawnaLanne]

((((Stepanie!!)))

I knew that MEAnne's suicide talk would mess one of those women up. I guess what annoys me the most about MEAnne is that she acts like no one wlse has wver wxperienced pain, or if they have it doesn't matter. I reeealy don't like her. I'm not liking kary much either. If MEAnne doesn't want to hike the stairs for excercise, or sleep with a stranger, or tell her why she didn't have kids, as a hostess, Kary should be okay with that. LeAnne's delivery could be better, and she showed her ass everywhere, but that doesn't mitigate Kary being an ass.

[Marley]

Kam cracked me up this episode. Especially with the meditation imitation lol. Well then she was kind of annoying running away at the end. Altho can’t fully like her because she 100% thinks Brandi is trash.

Leanne was so annoying and negative during the whole day it seems. She just seemed so cranky whenever the camera showed her. I wouldn’t wanna be around that when trying to have a fun day.

Stephanie continues to be my fave but she breaks my heart with her confessionals but I totally get them. 

D’andra at dinner was so wasted and in like a different conversation lol. She was cracking me up. 

Kary seems like a shit stirrer. She keeps bringing up annoying things. Seems so forced

[biakbiak]

It’s lucky Kelly Dodd wasn’t present for the meditation bowl because someone could have been killed!

[Sage47]

I kind of feel like the editors don’t like D’Andra, ha. They didn’t have to include the footage of her rolling around in her Spanx, eek! Mama Dee must have had the vapors watching that footage; I can picture her prim look and tight lipped grimace now. Awesome! 

I am glad bitchy D’Andra showed her ass (literally and figuratively!). She sucks. 

Brandi does have a trashy side, come on now. Is this really news? So Kameron snapped and called her trash, big deal. Get over it Brandi-you have said plenty to/about others. 

I adore Stephanie even more now if possible. I can relate to her struggles on every level. What a sweet soul she is! 

The stairs (and missing handrails) at Kary’s?? Nope. 
Kary herself? Nope.

I watched an episode from Season One while folding laundry yesterday. Leanne looked beautiful. What has she done to herself??! 
I forgot about her old bestie, Tiffany. I wonder if they are still friends? 
 

Edited September 26, 2019 by Sage47

[Little Lady Back]

I am probably in the minority here but drunk D’Andra was comedy gold! She was actually entertaining for once. LeeAnne has been quite the "fun police" on this trip. She is such a miserable person and is only happy when everyone is focused on her. Stephanie is too good of a person to be a "real housewife" with this franchise. Keep being you, Stephanie, and run like hell away from this craziness. On another note, did I hear Kameron say that when Brandi said the f word, it scared her? Seriously Kam! Why are you even on this show?

[dosodog]

Hi Brandi!  I also grew up in a single wife trailer for the first 10 years of my life.  However, unlike you, my friends were allowed to come over and no one called my family trash.

We learn from what we grow up with and based on the less than charming behavior exhibited by you as an adult and the behavior and apparent lack of boundaries your daughter exhibits?

Personally I think it has more to do with how your family behaved vs. what kind of home you lived in.

Sincerely, Dosodog

[Keywestclubkid]

30 minutes ago, dosodog said:

Hi Brandi!  I also grew up in a single wife trailer for the first 10 years of my life.  However, unlike you, my friends were allowed to come over and no one called my family trash.

We learn from what we grow up with and based on the less than charming behavior exhibited by you as an adult and the behavior and apparent lack of boundaries your daughter exhibits?

Personally I think it has more to do with how your family behaved vs. what kind of home you lived in.

Sincerely, Dosodog

But its only trash when Brandi does it which makes Kam a hypocrite its fine and funny and endearing when Karey does it like swearing and talking about having a full body orgasm but Brandi says one curse word and shes TRASH ...  Dog food Barbie is a huge ass hypocrite

Edited September 26, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[Misslindsey]

35 minutes ago, Sage47 said:

Brandi does have a trashy side, come on now. Is this really news? So Kameron snapped and called her trash, big deal. Get over it Brandi-you have said plenty to/about others.

This. It is not news that Brandi has a trashy side. Brandi goes on about Leanne using her background to manipulate and make others feel sorry for her, but I think Brandi does the same with her tears. She gets into shouting matches with others then goes away and cries, which other people feel sorry for her.

[Hiyo]

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Dog food Barbie is a huge ass hypocrite

Also when it comes to Leanne.

[Higgins]

Pink dog food Lady is boring. 

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

Also when it comes to Leanne.

Its only because Brandi hasn't crawled up her ass with the compliments and the fake ass kissing thats the problem... Notice Leanne and Karey both blow smoke up Dog Food Barbies ass so they can curse and talk about having orgasms and belch and do pretty much whatever and its giggles and oh so funny ... Brandi says Fuck and she is Trash ...I was starting to warm up to Kam but this just made me roll my eyes and just want her to shut the Fuck up ...... she would be useless with out her money

Edited September 26, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[dosodog]

26 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But its only trash when Brandi does it which makes Kam a hypocrite its fine and funny and endearing when Karey does it like swearing and talking about having a full body orgasm but Brandi says one curse word and shes TRASH ...  Dog food Barbie is a huge ass hypocrite

No.  I think Karey is gross.

Karey hasn't chased Kam around a beach with a dildo.  Yet.  When that happens and if Kam doesn't call her trash, I'll join you in calling Kam a hypocrit.

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, dosodog said:

No.  I think Karey is gross.

Karey hasn't chased Kam around a beach with a dildo.  Yet.  When that happens and if Kam doesn't call her trash, I'll join you in calling Kam a hypocrit.

Kary cursed and talked about orgasms in front of Kam and crickets but in her talking head  it was soooo funny I love how open and free Kary is..... DFB(dog food barbie) just wants to hate Brandi and cant keep her list of rules str8 for everyone .... I seriously cant stand Kam she talks out of both sides or her mouth and wants sooo bad to be the Regina George of the group but is more Gretchen ..... She needs to take several seats ..... I get some people just don't like Brandi and that's perfectly fine no one is gonna like everyone but the reason DFB freaked out is because Brandi said the word fuck and that was just beyond the pale? Dandra rolling around on the ground beyond wasted its giggles and sooo funny and  crickets from DFB..... Leanne cursing and screaming at that table crickets from DFB......... but Brandi saying FUCK and OMG shes trash!!!!!  ...............again shut the FUCK up Kam

Edited September 26, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[RealHousewife]

I’m with you all on Stephanie. She is one of the few people on these shows I’d want to be friends with. Such a sweet person. There are housewives I like watching just because they’re glamorous or funny or whatever, but I know IRL I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of a meltdown, jabs, etc. 

Drunk D’andra was a hoot! She wasn’t aggressive or mean to anyone, just a happy, silly woman. 

I don’t think chasing someone around with a dildo is funny, but I actually did feel bad seeing Brandi cry in this episode. We all have certain soft spots. I also thought Kam threw a napkin at her before she cursed, but maybe I’m wrong. I’m not even sure what started the argument. I get what Kam means about the person’s behavior being trashy though, not the person. There are people I love who I certainly don’t consider trash, but I find it trashy when tons of curse words come out of their mouth. 

[TV Diva Queen]

Kary is the ultimate RHo____ pot stirrer.  Shes such a meddler.  

[IKnowRight]

2 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

This. It is not news that Brandi has a trashy side. Brandi goes on about Leanne using her background to manipulate and make others feel sorry for her, but I think Brandi does the same with her tears. She gets into shouting matches with others then goes away and cries, which other people feel sorry for her.

Spot on.

Brandi does exactly what she accuses Leeann of doing, playing the victim after stirring the pot.  They both are pretty similar in ways.  If you don’t want to be called trash, don’t act like trash, over and over again.  First thought in my head when Brandi, season one, wore the poop hat?  Trash. Then she cries and says it triggers her insecurities of growing up being treated that way.  Again, isn’t that what you accuse Leeann of doing?  It takes one to know one.

I just have no use for Brandi and I think her presence holds Stephanie back with relationships with the other women. 

Why does Kary think that being the host, that she needs to take it upon herself to get in the middle of all of their personal issues?  Providing the venue, new girl, doesn’t make you the all knowing arbiter of their relationships.  At this point, you should just be observing and staying out of it.  

IMO Brandi and D’Andrea were the sh@t stirrers on this trip.

[LibertarianSlut]

Kameron said "that was trash" after an exchange with Brandi.  I don't find that the equivalent of calling someone "trash."  If someone walked away from a heated exchange with me and said, "that was bullshit," would I be correct in getting all up in my feelings that they called my person "bullshit"?  No...they're calling the situation bullshit, so this is a whole lot of nothing to me.  It's "bashing an adopted baby"-gate all over again.  Kameron is on the hook for not simply saying that.  She did aplogize multiple times, so I don't know what else Brandi wants.  Brandi feeling inferior because she deep down inside feels like she is trash is a Brandi problem, not a Kameron problem.

Brandi, what are you crying about anyway, woman?  You are working that mommy makeover!  For real, that pool scene was maybe the best I've ever seen her look.  Maybe a tiny breast lift wouldn't hurt, but she's miles from that photo of her when she was 10, and she should just walk in her own light, knowing she's not trash.  At least Kameron had the sense to clap back when Kary tried to turn it into "white trash." <eyeroll>

D'andra is trash.  There, I said it.  All the anger and entitlement from last season came bubbling up again when she screamed at Kary--the host--to sit, so that D'andra wouldn't lose camera time.  Shades of D'andra screaming at Jeremy's son two seasons ago. This is a woman who wants other women to fight so that she can choose a side so that she can be valued by her comrades, like she's 10 years old.  She always needs to be on someone's side in a battle or she's not at peace.  On WWHL last night, Andy asked if drunk D'andra is funny and...not really.  Knowing she's been in rehab for cocaine abuse makes it uncomfortable for me to watch these displays when it's D'andra.

For the second week in a row, Leanne is being kinda grouchy and no fun, but also not overly playing into the drama, so...not much to see there.  If Leanne wasn't so predisposed toward overreaction and dragging things out, I would like her a lot more.  And her weave is tired.  There was a shot early in the episode when they were having breakfast where Leanne's hair looked like it was down to her shoulders and she looked flipping gorgeous, although she's had so many procedures that it appears she's actually growing a duck bill this season.  Kinda sad.

I don't know why this didn't bother me last episode--I didn't even hear it--but "go potty" is not a thing.  I wish Kameron would disabuse herself of that statement.  It's not cute.  It's not endearing.  It makes you look like an ass.  And...it's trashy.  Why can't she just say, "I have to use the restroom"?  Wouldn't that reflect better on the Westcotts?  

Kary grew on me a smidge.  I guess she doesn't lose her cool easily, which I admire.  She very clearly wants to be on the show, and throughout this entire episode I just pictured her making pitches to Bravo:  "Yes, I will bring them to Mexico, where I have a one million square foot home.  Yes, I can bring them to a polo match.  Can I bring them to a gigantic bowl called The Copa where they can meditate?  Absolutely."  It wasn't bad, and yes, she's jumping into the fray too quickly, but she's sorta carrying the Cary Deuber mediator torch, which I appreicate. 

[ghoulina]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But its only trash when Brandi does it which makes Kam a hypocrite its fine and funny and endearing when Karey does it like swearing and talking about having a full body orgasm but Brandi says one curse word and shes TRASH ...  Dog food Barbie is a huge ass hypocrite

I do think Kam is hypocritical about it, because LeeAnn also says plenty of "trashy" things and she doesn't call her out. However, I do think it's typical to lash out at the person you're currently fighting with. And Kam and LeeAnn don't really fight. I'm not saying it makes it better, just providing context. 

At the end of the day, I do believe that Brandy often conducts herself in a trashy manner. So, even if Kam is being hypocritical, I don't have any sympathy for Brandi. 

3 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Drunk D’andra was a hoot! She wasn’t aggressive or mean to anyone, just a happy, silly woman. 

Well, that's not entirely true. She began screaming at Kary and LeeAnn to have their personal discussion in front of everyone. 

[LibertarianSlut]

Here's my unpopular opinion:  Stephanie makes me increasingly more uncomfortable. When she said she was triggered by Leanne this episode, I was like, wowww, that's heavy depression.  Not good in a foreign country.  She's talking about her depression more and more, yet it seems she's doing that hysterical laughing jag more and more maybe...to compensate?  It's just jarring to me, in light of my own experience.

Just because this wasn't featured on the episode, I'll put it in spoiler tags, but it's just something that wasn't said on the show:  

Spoiler

Stephanie was the guest on Watch What Happens Live last night, and she was acting manic.  Her eyes looked...dilated.  She was talking really fast, and she was saying stupid shit about how Kameron calling Brandi "trash" (which, again, she didn't do) was "the worst" thing you can call someone, and it was a huge turn-off to me.  She was saying the show was good for her depression, which sounds crazy to me.

If Stephanie is that concerned about her mental health, maybe...don't drink on antidepressants, which she admitted she was doing on the episode?  

Maybe...if you're going to be "triggered" by someone else's talk of their mental health struggles, it's time to step away from reality TV for a season or two?

I don't think she should have a life coach.  She should have a board-certified behavior-based psychologist with a Ph.D, in addition to the psychiatrist she's likely seeing for her anti-depression meds (some other doctors, like ob-gyns, can prescribe anti-depressants, so it's not clear that she has a psychiatrist, and if she doesn't, she should get one).

And, just from a personal perspective--I'm not one to air my dirty laundry--but I have dealt with depression and anxiety in my own life, and I think Stephanie is correct that if she's going about her life and her job in a depressed mood, damn straight there are going to be people who will not be there for that.  Everyone can say they're going to stick around for her depressed moods, but I'll only believe it once I see it.   It's not how I want the world to be, but it's how I believe the world is.  I am very unhappy at my job.  My profession has a high suicide, substance abuse and depression rate, and every day I strap a smile on and I go about life like there isn't a care in the world.  It's social graces, it's a fake face, it's whatever you want to call it, but I save my personal problems basically for my husband, and some just for me, because honestly?  Depression is boring.  No one wants to say it, but it's true.  I wasn't bored last season with the little glimpses into Stephanie's battle with depression, but now that it appears to be her storyline, I'm getting a little like, ok, this is boring and depressing.  And now that we know you're depressed, stop the maniacal laughing--you're scaring the children!  

Now that I think about it, Stephanie mentioned in an earlier episode that so many people were writing to her about their own battles with depression, that she got overwhelmed and depressed.  Now that Stephanie knows she's impacting people's lives, I think she has even more of a responsibility to get healthy the right way.  She's one of the few people in this world who has the resources to do it, and if she went away, got real help and came back as a mentally healthy and sound friend-of, that would make a powerful statement to the people who look up to her and her mental health journey.  Right now, I'm not sure she's taking enough responsibility.  She has kids.  They need their mom to be well more than she needs to drink tequila out of a bottle Kary is pouring down her throat in the back of a van.  Just my opinion.

Ok, I just had to get that off my chest, and I'll try to stop complaining about Stephanie's laughing in future episodes.  I know she's popular.  I think she's sweet, but I just don't like her that much.  I like people who have a backbone, because I know how hard I've had to work to form mine.  If she did, in fact, donate bone marrow to a stranger, that earns a huge amount of grudging respect from me.

[RealHousewife]

@ghoulina I forgot about that part! It was her behavior after that, that I found funny.

@LibertarianSlut Stephanie is my favorite of all the housewives, but I get a lot of what you’re saying. 

I’ve battled depression and anxiety, and I’ve been on both sides of it with family and friends. I know what it’s like to feel like you have to play this part every day. My family never wanted to hear me talk about how awful I felt when it was really bad. Sometimes they still don’t get how certain situations are difficult for me due to anxiety. I’m doing much better these days and not on any kind of medication for these issues, but I get situational anxiety that they do not understand.

I also know what it’s like to work so hard to be a happy person, and you have that friend where each time you see them it’s like a therapy session. You feel so bad that someone you care about is so down, but you keep having the same conversations and get drained. I do my best to be there, cheer up them up, but I’m not a psychiatrist. A friend of mine was having a lot of trouble with an antidepressant he was on, and I urged him to talk to a professional. 

Edited September 27, 2019 by RealHousewife

[Mondrianyone]

Beautifully said, @LibertarianSlut.  I couldn't agree more, with all of it.

[biakbiak]

Whenever Kam is called out about her relationship with LeeAnne she instantly tries to turn the conversation on to Brandi and Stephanie’s relationship even when the facts don’t back up her story.

Edited September 27, 2019 by biakbiak

[movingtargetgal]

2 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

On WWHL last night, Andy asked if drunk D'andra is funny and...not really.  Knowing she's been in rehab for cocaine abuse makes it uncomfortable for me to watch these displays when it's D'andra.

D'andra's excessive drinking is not funny to me because she has a history of substance abuse.  She really needs to go to a long term rehab so she can get herself together.  Her relationship with her mother is beyond toxic.  Her mother has control of D'andra's trust fund so she swallows everything her mother dishes out.  She needs to take control over her life and finances.  If she left or shut down her mother's failing business, got a job and cut back on her expenses, she would be a much happier person because she would not be constantly under her mother's thumb.

[Mr. Miner]

5 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Drunk D’andra was a hoot! She wasn’t aggressive or mean to anyone, just a happy, silly woman. 

When she was rolling around on the bed and Stephanie said "I think she wants to have sex with me". That was funny as hell!

I'm pretty sure I heard Brandi tell Cam to "go suck a dick". Kind of trashy?

Double cartwheel by Leanne was pretty impressive.

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

"I have to use the restroom"?  Wouldn't that reflect better on the Westcotts?

The Westcott's do not urinate.

[Sage47]

1 hour ago, Mr. Minor said:

When she was rolling around on the bed and Stephanie said "I think she wants to have sex with me". That was funny as hell!

I'm pretty sure I heard Brandi tell Cam to "go suck a dick". Kind of trashy?

Double cartwheel by Leanne was pretty impressive.

Oh, I forgot about “go suck a dick”. THAT was the truly trashy part, not using the word fuck. 
Agree that Leanne’s double cartwheel was impressive! 
I loved Kameron’s quote, “if you match your undies to your outfit, we’re probably going to be friends. “ Cute! 
 

[Haute Messe]

I feel for Stephanie and agree that she should be more focused on her mental health than this stupid show, and she should not be mixing booze and antidepressant meds. I usually really like her - the only time I don't is when she is with Brandi.

I just don't care for Brandi's juvenile tasteless (that's the only "T" word I will use) brand of humour or her rebuttals.  She doesn't seem particularly bright and that I think is why she goes on the offense.

Edited September 26, 2019 by lizajane
Beause I don't proofread.

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, Mr. Minor said:

When she was rolling around on the bed and Stephanie said "I think she wants to have sex with me". That was funny as hell!

I'm pretty sure I heard Brandi tell Cam to "go suck a dick". Kind of trashy?

Double cartwheel by Leanne was pretty impressive.

I know, that was so funny! 

Yeah, if someone blurts out the f word, big whoop. "Go suck a dick" is so much more vulgar to me. I never speak like that and can't stand to hear that kind of talk. I suppose Brandi would consider me a pearl-clutcher. Kam on the other hand is the type of lady I worry about offending because she is all about etiquette and being proper. I don't see Brandi or Kam genuinely becoming best buds because they're night and day. Someone like Stephanie gets along better with people because she's more neutral-not a pitbull with a potty mouth or Miss Manners. 

[Raiderred]

Karey reminds me of Celine Dion with her looks and her inflections in her voice.  She is getting on my nerves with all the therapist talk and butting in on all these women.  Slow your roll, lady.

[iloveit]

I was hoping I was going to like Kam this year but I don't.  She was so over the top claiming that she WAS ATTACKED!!!!  She started some bullshit about cliques and Brandi called her out and that was being ATTACKED! Hearing the f word is so hurtful!!!!!! I'm sure she was wasted so I would chalk it up to that but the previews make me think she is still acting like she was sooooo hurt by Brandi saying fuck the next day.  It's similar to the bashing a baby stupidity from last year.  We need Cary Deuber to call her and be like no, stop, no one feels bad for you. 

I'm sure she doesn't because regret doesn't seem to be her thing but I hope Kameron felt bad watching this episode, seeing herself bitching about Brandi and Stephanie going off to talk to each other when they were actually having a heart to heart about Steph's depression being triggered by the suicide talk. 

I don't really feel sorry for Brandi but I did think she looked prettier than usual when she standing in the pool looking all sad. 

How were they all not D'Andra level wasted?? It seemed like they drank sooooo much!

Stephanie! Hugs to you!  You can be sad sometimes and people will still love you. 

Kary is trying her best to get mixed up in dramz. Her "let's all be positive and light and love" was kind of annoying.

[princelina]

I find that I am becoming "triggered" by the use of the word "triggered".  If anyone is "triggered" by things that go on on this show (vs. being annoyed or pissed off or just having their feelings hurt) then they should get off of the show and deal with their issues. And let's be real - if you didn't have a little bit of trash in your person, you wouldn't be on a RH show to begin with 😄 

[For Cereals]

I think Lee Ann still looks good in the right light.  I’m not a fan of her personality, but she reminds me so much of Alyssa Edwards from Drag Race that I keep watching hoping the two will get together.  I need to know if they know each other.

Speaking of pottying, it really wasn’t necessary for them to let us hear the pee.  We got it. I do find myself saying “potty” because of my dogs too, but I have to stop.

No way I would do those stairs.  Ever.  That’s not vacation!

I kind of don’t mind Poor Man’s Celine Dion (great comparison!) playing counselor.  They are horrible at communicating with each other.

[yourmomiseasy]

Stephanie has such a kind heart and delicate soul.  She breaks my heart.

[CloseThisAccount]

i'm torn on Stephanie. Obviously, she's the best human in the group, no question. But when she says she's sparkly b/c no one would be her friend otherwise, I can only think, then stop hanging around with vapid high society Dallas. But then I think maybe she feels trapped in that life?  She needs more than some bs life coach. 

Carey actually demonstrated to them what skipping a step on the stairs looked like. 

Oh, D'Andra. "This is why Jeremy likes me!"  That & the spanx rollover are gonna give me evil pleasure for a long time. As someone above said, Countess Luann in the bushes she is not.

[dosodog]

1 hour ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said:

i'm torn on Stephanie. Obviously, she's the best human in the group, no question. But when she says she's sparkly b/c no one would be her friend otherwise, I can only think, then stop hanging around with vapid high society Dallas. But then I think maybe she feels trapped in that life?  She needs more than some bs life coach. 

Carey actually demonstrated to them what skipping a step on the stairs looked like. 

Oh, D'Andra. "This is why Jeremy likes me!"  That & the spanx rollover are gonna give me evil pleasure for a long time. As someone above said, Countess Luann in the bushes she is not.

Stephanie is right about not having friends if you're not a "happy" person.  People dont feel comfortable around someone who is depressed or going through a hard time.  They'll be supportive for a limited amount of time, but eventually, the idea that "enough time has passed, move on" becomes more prevalent. 

You find out who the "ride or die" friends are when tragedy or depression comes into your life.

Most stick it out for 6 months and then complain inwardly or behind backs to other people who feel the same way. 

And not just vapid high society Dallas.  Poverty level convenience store workers were compassionate towards my co worker for a limited amount of time when her husband died.  At about 6 months, if she had a bad day or moment, people began to resent her attitude.

Observing that, when Stupendous Man died, I purposely took the "Jackie Kennedy" example of stoicism. However, I was completely unprepared when a co worker completely lost her shit on me because I  requested his birthday off that same year.  She actually screamed at me that she had worked enough days for me that year and she was tired of it.

For the record, until his birthday, I took a total of 8 days off in a 2 week work period, right after he died. 

Stephanie, sadly, is 100% correct.

Edited September 27, 2019 by dosodog

[4N6MAL]

21 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

Double cartwheel by Leanne was pretty impressive.

I did a double take when I saw that! Really, really good! And Kary in the heels was impressive as well!

[bichonblitz]

I think Kameron is very funny. Her talking heads are gold, she often emphasizes her own silliness, she knows she's over the top with a lot of things. Just don't act "trashy" in front of her and watch the cuss words and all will be right with the world, Lol.   

[Hiyo]

But are you laughing with her or at her?

[biakbiak]

52 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I think Kameron is very funny. Her talking heads are gold, she often emphasizes her own silliness, she knows she's over the top with a lot of things. Just don't act "trashy" in front of her and watch the cuss words and all will be right with the world, Lol.   

Except that LeeAnne and Kary swear and she doesn’t have a problem with it so basically don’t be Brandi.