S04.E03:. Donde Esta Margarita

[OnceSane]

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D'Andra blows off a big business meeting with Travis because of a hair emergency; LeeAnne gets creative in order to afford her uber-expensive couture wedding gown; the women all travel to Careyes, Mexico, for some fun in the sun.

Airs September 18, 2019.

[whydoievencare]

OMG, Leanne and her sparkley little friend, going begging to the dress designer - that was so inappropriate. 

[Andi27]

Wow. Did that designer have any choice, while on camera, but to offer to "donate" that dress to Leanne? Gross.

[TexasGal]

Ugh, LeeAnne, maybe live within your means.  And not wait until 7 weeks (?!?!?) before your wedding to look for a dress!  

GEE.ZUS!  That house is gorgeous.

[Pickles]

Not a fan of LeeAnn, but I wouldn’t want to share a bed with anyone either! 

[Keywestclubkid]

Leanne is coming across super entitled this episode and Kamron is actually being semi likable and normal. Did I slip into some bizarre new reality?

[whydoievencare]

Kameron is such a kiss-ass with Leanne - YES Kameron, Leanne was totally being negative AND rude.  Don't pretend otherwise!

[Keywestclubkid]

Leanne you shit on everything with little comments and she got tired of it and let you know. She didn’t attack you. You were jabbing jabbing jabbing and she responded. I can’t with Leanne so far this episode 

[Keywestclubkid]

Weigh me.... ok that made me laugh Kamron bravo 

[whydoievencare]

Leanne, using her tragic story to act aggressively with Karey, is just a totally shitty thing to do.  She's just using it as a weapon.  Leanne never changes.

Edited September 19, 2019 by whydoievencare

[ShawnaLanne]

I need to to rewatch because I only saw the last 20 minutes. But I came in to say that Leanne needs to STFU. I had a shit childhood, moved seven times one year alone, every kind of abuse, I could go on but I'm 46 and won't live in a pity party. She uses her childhood and mental health problems as a weapon. F that manipulative B. She is minimizing real problems, she is trivializing them. That broke assed twat shouldn't even be on the show.

Edited to add, that I'm okay now. All of my current problems, angsts, are all down to my poor choices. 

Edited September 19, 2019 by ShawnaLanne

[ghoulina]

I'm glad D'andra's husband called her out and made her take ownership for what happened with Travis. But what I loved even more was TRAVIS calling her out...on voice mail....then ending it with "Happy Birthday". SAVAGE.

Cary's house is stunning. Those views. Wow. 

On the one hand, I don't think I'd want to share a bed with non family. That was kind of weird. OTOH, you respect your host and how they do things in their home. LeeAnn was being rude. 

And she was being negative as well! But I died laughing when she said, "I'm not negative; I used to have an inspirational blog."

Then cut to the molestation/suicide talk a few hours later. Yikes. I waiver between feeling badly for her and wanting her to move on already. 

I did not get the finances talk. There's nothing wrong with making your own money, but getting an allowance isn't a requisite of being a non-working wife. It just means you married a controlling dick. I don't work and I spend what I want. Of course I'm pretty budget conscious and I will consult my hubby on bigger items. But he does not have a complete monopoly on our bank account. And what was it about weighing ones self in relation to the allowance????

[breezy424]

Sorry but I'm team Leeanne on the room thing.  You've got seven bedrooms.  I don't want to sleep in a bed with you because you want us to get to know each other better.  And as for D'Andra, I don't want to share a room with a slob.

Travis was right being pissed off.  You go to the meeting D'Andra.  Pull your hair back  in a pony tail.  Whatever.  He doesn't care.  You show up.

I'm finding Cary a bit annoying.  I don't do bridges like that.  I'll hang out nearby.  Thanks but no thanks. 

Leeanne with the dress designer was cringy. 

Edited September 19, 2019 by breezy424

[ShawnaLanne]

I missed the first half, but I saw the clip of Travis on a blog I follow. Her priorities tell me everything I need to know about what kind of business woman she is.

Edited September 19, 2019 by ShawnaLanne

[AttackTurtle]

The juxtaposition between how Stephanie discusses her suicide vs. how Leanne does is pretty jarring.   Leanne was using it as a weapon to get back at Cary for Cary calling her out.  I’m sorry, but Leanne was being rude.  There was a much more gracious way for her to go about the not wanting to share the room with Cary.  And Brandi is right, the drama was unfairly shifted to she and Stephanie. 

Speaking of Stephanie and Brandi, I love their friendship and think it says a lot that neither of them made a fuss about not sharing a room.  I have liked Stephanie since Season 1, and am so happy that she’s been consistently awesome.  

[LibertarianSlut]

I'm liking this season ok so far because the good and bad is distributed pretty widely.  Even though there are some worse than others, there is no one I despise yet.

Brandi is surprisingly tolerable in small doses.

The D'andra/Travis storyline didn't wash with me.  In all likelihood, all parties involved were lying.  D'andra had obvious dark roots and some split ends in the scene with her husband, so it's not likely she had gotten her hair done in the last few weeks.  Then there is the question why anyone would be contacting Stephanie if it was a business meeting between D'andra and Travis, and why would Travis first call Stephanie looking for D'andra at 9:15 am when the meeting had been scheduled for 8?  Also, was Stephanie not with her husband at 1:30 am on a weeknight when D'andra allegedly texted her?  This all rings very false, yet at the same time it convinces me that D'andra has no business acumen.

I didn't think Mexico was all that interesting this episode.  Beaver Creek and Denmark beat the pants off Mexico drama-wise.  I'm not sharing a bed or a bathroom with any freaking one, especially if there are additional facilities available.  I just need a certain amount of privacy or I'm miserable.  I would sooner skip a trip than share a bed.  I was that kid that wouldn't be caught dead at a sleeping camp, and I dreaded sleepovers.  It's outside my comfort zone, so I totally sympathized with Leanne there.  Platonic adults don't need to get to know each other on the level of sleeping face-to-face, hello!

Leanne was being kind of a bratty bitch the whole episode, so I'm not giving it light or air.  Kameron was very meh, and usuallly I like her.  I don't think it's ironic or amusing that her young kid doesn't know what a "commercial flight" is.  She probably just doesn't know the term "commercial."  I wouldn't have known what it was at that age.

Kary is still annoying me for reasons I can't fully articulate yet.  She seems constantly unfocused.  I don't think it's her accent, because I thoroughly enjoyed Real Housewives of Miami and Melbourne, and there were accents galore there, although the choice to add a full-time Housewife with subtitles is an interesting one.  She just doesn't seem like a fully actualized person.  At least half the things she says sound like bullshit.  She was late to the airport because she had been busy with her daughter's birthday the day before?  What does that even mean?  She reminds me a little of my mom in that aspect.  

Next week looks like it picks up a little, but everything is kind of meh so far.  I am looking forward to Leanne's wedding not at all.  Glad not to have to hear about Mama Dee or Hard Night, Good Morning for once.  Super glad Brandi and Stephanie are comfortable enough in their fourth season not to act like eight year olds.  I guess it would have been nice if the women could have gotten kind of drunk and just sat around the table being kind of bitchy without one passing out and one threatening suicide.  That's why I watch, and I feel like that's what Cary Deuber used to bring, but I'm sure if she were there, I would find something about her to bitch about.  I enjoyed the part where they stopped at the bathroom in Mexico, and I wish we got to see more of the windy road to the property.  Anyone who walks across that bridge is 1,000x braver than I am. 

[Dance4Life]

I am so tired of Brandi’s Chucky doll.

I would send the camera people home.....then slap the shit out of her smart mouth.

Yea...yea...yea....Call CPS on me! 🥳

I also want to slap Brandi.  She thinks her Chucky doll is so cute.  But, she is evil.

Teresa’s Milania was a little terror......but, she was also loving and funny.  

[RealHousewife]

First and foremost, Kary's house is incredible! Just wow! I had never heard of this woman before, but she sure brings the lifestyle porn. 

Staying over at someone's house can be awkward when you're not close. You don't want to offend and want to be a good, appreciative guest, but tbh, I don't like sharing a bedroom, certainly not a bed, with someone who's not family. We don't need to get THAT cozy to get to know each other.

@LibertarianSlut I'm the exact same way. I'd rather not go on a trip if I have to share a bed with someone who's not family or a very close friend. Ideally I'd like my own bedroom, and a bathroom is a major plus. I am most comfortable sleeping in my undies. I obviously don't do that unless I'm alone or with a partner. With acquaintances and friends I'm not tight with, I not only have to be dressed, but feel I have to wear a bra to bed, can be shy without my makeup depending on how my skin is doing, like privacy doing my business in the bathroom, etc. It's not that I am high maintenance in the sense that I want a big bedroom, fancy sheets, or anything like that. It's more I don't want night sweats from having to wear PJ's and prefer to wash my face and brush my teeth before seeing someone I hardly know first thing in the morning. 

Stephanie continues to be a sweetheart. I hope she's in a good place now. She's the kind of person you just want to protect from how cruel the world can be. She is such a beautiful lady inside and out. If anyone should have high self-esteem, it should be her. 

LeeAnne...

I feel awful for her. No child should have to go through what she did. However I don't think it's appropriate to bust out her story to manipulate people/situations and talk about suicide the way she does. She has a pattern. You don't just say you may commit suicide that night, WTH?! Was she serious? Was it just to shock? Was she trying to shut down the conversation? If she is still hurting so badly, I truly hope she gets help. People do sometimes say kill myself or you as a figure of speech, but given that she has had suicide attempts and Stephanie and D'andra's pasts, I thought it was so inappropriate to talk about suicide the way she did. I'm all for LeeAnne and all survivors of abuse sharing their stories, but using them to manipulate isn't right. 

I do think asking someone why she never had kids or possibly didn't want them can be a touchy subject. Some women want them terribly, but it doesn't happen. And then some don't want to bring kids into the world due to their childhood traumas like LeeAnne. People can treat the childless as freaks, so maybe it was a hot button for LeeAnne, who already feels robbed of a childhood and then her adult life suffered because of the abuse she endured as a kid. Maybe it makes her sad she was so traumatized she could never even dream of that white picket fence life. LeeAnne can be tough, but I truly feel for her. My story isn't quite like hers, but I can relate to her in some ways.

Edited September 19, 2019 by RealHousewife

[swankie]

32 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I feel awful for her. No child should have to go through what she did. However I don't think it's appropriate to bust out her story to manipulate people/situations and talk about suicide the way she does. She has a pattern. You don't just say you may commit suicide that night, WTH?! Was she serious? Was it just to shock? Was she trying to shut down the conversation? If she is still hurting so badly, I truly hope she gets help. People do sometimes say kill myself or you as a figure of speech, but given that she has had suicide attempts and Stephanie and D'andra's pasts, I thought it was so inappropriate to talk about suicide the way she did. I'm all for LeeAnne and all survivors of abuse sharing their stories, but using them to manipulate isn't right. 

I think LeeAnne just wanted to shut the host down.  She was still smarting from being called out by Kary and just wanted to shut her down and get her off of her case.  I don't agree with LeeAnne, but I didn't agree with Kary either.  I'm sure nobody will agree with me but when you are a host your job is to accommodate your guests and make them feel comfortable.  I would have declined rooming with Kary also.  I would sleep on a couch before sharing a bed with her.  To expect that and force people to room with a draw from a hat instead of who they feel comfortable rooming  with is controlling and just asking for trouble.  And unless your guest kicked your dog or pissed on your carpet or something equally egregious, you don't chastise them like they're a child.  To me, she was the one being rude.  You don't make your guest feel bad.  You just don't.  

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, swankie said:

I think LeeAnne just wanted to shut the host down.  She was still smarting from being called out by Kary and just wanted to shut her down and get her off of her case.  I don't agree with LeeAnne, but I didn't agree with Kary either.  I'm sure nobody will agree with me but when you are a host your job is to accommodate your guests and make them feel comfortable.  I would have declined rooming with Kary also.  I would sleep on a couch before sharing a bed with her.  To expect that and force people to room with a draw from a hat instead of who they feel comfortable rooming  with is controlling and just asking for trouble.  And unless your guest kicked your dog or pissed on your carpet or something equally egregious, you don't chastise them like they're a child.  To me, she was the one being rude.  You don't make your guest feel bad.  You just don't.  

I agree. There were things they both did I thought were wrong. It's a two-way thing imo. You want to be appreciative of the host, but the host has to truly care about the guests, not just want to get to know them on her own terms. If you care about your guests enjoying themselves, you want them to be comfortable and enjoy their time at your place so much they'd want to return someday. Anytime I have anyone staying with me, I make sure they have a comfy place to sleep with some privacy, food in the fridge they'd like, and anything else I'd think they'd want. Not hey, here is where you'll be, end of story and this is it, like it or not.

[princelina]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Leanne is coming across super entitled this episode and Kamron is actually being semi likable and normal. Did I slip into some bizarre new reality?

Nah - Kameron's still an ass 😄

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

I do think asking someone why she never had kids or possibly didn't want them can be a touchy subject. Some women want them terribly, but it doesn't happen. And then some don't want to bring kids into the world due to their childhood traumas like LeeAnne. People can treat the childless as freaks, so maybe it was a hot button for LeeAnne, who already feels robbed of a childhood and then her adult life suffered because of the abuse she endured as a kid. Maybe it makes her sad was so traumatized she could never even dream of that white picket fence life. LeeAnne can be tough, but I truly feel for her. My story isn't quite like hers, but I can relate to her in some ways.

Yeah here's some advice for real housewives everywhere - when a woman is in her 50s and has never been married, STFU about her not having kids unless she volunteers the info.  It's not that hard of a concept really.  I'm getting tired of having to stick up for Leanne, but I can relate to her in having the Smug Marrieds twitting me about marriage and kids, so I'm always taking her sides in these fights.  Plus - as I said about Dandra last year - if you want to act bad-ass with someone as born to be a reality TV character as Leanne, you had better to be able to take it better than you can give it.  

I'm not really interested in listening to them all one-up each other on hard luck stories.  What am I interested in?  Hearing Brandi tell the Tallest Little Girl in the World to "go suck a dick" next week 🤣 😈

Edited September 19, 2019 by princelina

[hoosiermom]

I think LeeAnne should have spoken to Kary in private explaining she didn’t feel comfortable sleeping in the same bed with her. That would have been the polite thing to do. But then, no drama so...

Edited September 19, 2019 by hoosiermom
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[biakbiak]

LeeAnne go to fucking David’s Bridal because that’s your budget! The scene of them tag teaming the designer made me very uncomfortable.

I also thought it was super shitty of LeeAnne to throw out the suicide attempts to win an argument particularly with Stephanie and D’Andra there who might have found it triggering.

Edited September 19, 2019 by biakbiak

[FancyNancy]

7 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

OMG, Leanne and her sparkley little friend, going begging to the dress designer - that was so inappropriate. 

That made me cringe so bad. And then the way he did it 😄 he might as well just came out and said we want it for free instead of all that humble bs.

[FancyNancy]

5 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

I am so tired of Brandi’s Chucky doll.

I would send the camera people home.....then slap the shit out of her smart mouth.

Yea...yea...yea....Call CPS on me! 🥳

I also want to slap Brandi.  She thinks her Chucky doll is so cute.  But, she is evil.

Teresa’s Milania was a little terror......but, she was also loving and funny.  

Girl!!! Lil’ Chucky would’ve been caught these hands. Her mouth is too slick. 

[FancyNancy]

I wouldn’t have wanted to sleep with another grown ass woman either if there were other options. If Kari wanted them all to room together, maybe she should’ve added a bed to all the single bed rooms for the trip. LeAnne is a bitch though. 

Edited September 19, 2019 by FancyNancy

[FancyNancy]

Why does Leanne try to sound so hood? And it’s more than likely when she’s trying to act tough. 

Since bravo allows broke beggin’ folks to be on the show, I wish they’d let me sign up so I could pull LeAnns hoe card. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

The biggest cringe for me in this episode was grown up women referring to the toilet as a potty, or the need to go as “I need to go potty”. What??!! It’s not cute it just sounds ridiculous!

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

That made me cringe so bad. And then the way he did it 😄 he might as well just came out and said we want it for free instead of all that humble bs.

I am sure that is not the first trip to that designer, I am sure that LeAnn's dress was already made, fitted and paid for (at a deep discount) and this visit was just for show.

Who is that non Asian Kevin Lee knock off that LeAnn totes along to every appointment anyway? His begging was awkward, he should have a bit more finesse in that area, no matter how rich his clientele is everyone wants something for free, his schmoozing game is weak.

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

First and foremost, Kary's house is incredible! Just wow! I had never heard of this woman before, but she sure brings the lifestyle porn. 

Staying over at someone's house can be awkward when you're not close. You don't want to offend and want to be a good, appreciative guest, but tbh, I don't like sharing a bedroom, certainly not a bed, with someone who's not family. We don't need to get THAT cozy to get to know each other.

@LibertarianSlut I'm the exact same way. I'd rather not go on a trip if I have to share a bed with someone who's not family or a very close friend. Ideally I'd like my own bedroom, and a bathroom is a major plus. I am most comfortable sleeping in my undies. I obviously don't do that unless I'm alone or with a partner. With acquaintances and friends I'm not tight with, I not only have to be dressed, but feel I have to wear a bra to bed, can be shy without my makeup depending on how my skin is doing, like privacy doing my business in the bathroom, etc. It's not that I am high maintenance in the sense that I want a big bedroom, fancy sheets, or anything like that. It's more I don't want night sweats from having to wear PJ's and prefer to wash my face and brush my teeth before seeing someone I hardly know first thing in the morning. 

Stephanie continues to be a sweetheart. I hope she's in a good place now. She's the kind of person you just want to protect from how cruel the world can be. She is such a beautiful lady inside and out. If anyone should have high self-esteem, it should be her. 

LeeAnne...

I feel awful for her. No child should have to go through what she did. However I don't think it's appropriate to bust out her story to manipulate people/situations and talk about suicide the way she does. She has a pattern. You don't just say you may commit suicide that night, WTH?! Was she serious? Was it just to shock? Was she trying to shut down the conversation? If she is still hurting so badly, I truly hope she gets help. People do sometimes say kill myself or you as a figure of speech, but given that she has had suicide attempts and Stephanie and D'andra's pasts, I thought it was so inappropriate to talk about suicide the way she did. I'm all for LeeAnne and all survivors of abuse sharing their stories, but using them to manipulate isn't right. 

I do think asking someone why she never had kids or possibly didn't want them can be a touchy subject. Some women want them terribly, but it doesn't happen. And then some don't want to bring kids into the world due to their childhood traumas like LeeAnne. People can treat the childless as freaks, so maybe it was a hot button for LeeAnne, who already feels robbed of a childhood and then her adult life suffered because of the abuse she endured as a kid. Maybe it makes her sad she was so traumatized she could never even dream of that white picket fence life. LeeAnne can be tough, but I truly feel for her. My story isn't quite like hers, but I can relate to her in some ways.

Well stated!

The fact that a hostess cannot recognize that her guest might be uncomfortable bed sharing is bad, calling her out on it is sad.  LeeAnn could have phrased it differently but whatever.

LeeAnn needs to realize that pulling that "I had a bad childhood" story is not the excuse for every shitty thing she does now, we all have baggage from our childhood that still sting, grow up LeeAnn, non of these women are responsible for what you had to go thru, be nice.

I think Kary with a K knows everything she needs to know about LeeAnn now.

Esa Casa! Es muy bonita!

[iloveit]

8 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

was Stephanie not with her husband at 1:30 am on a weeknight when D'andra allegedly texted her?  

I assumed she and Travis were sleeping at 1:30am.  Then Travis got up and left early to be at the office and ready for a meeting at 8am.  Stephanie was probably still sleeping and didn't check her phone.  It was hilarious that Travis signed off with Happy birthday!

When was this trip filmed was it right after the RHONY episode when LuAnn is bitching about Dorinda's fish room?  Did Leann see and that and think, I need to recreate that for us?  LOL! 

Leann was super ruder about the whole bed sharing thing although I would definitely not want to sleep in the same bed either. The reasonable thing to do would be to have taken Kary aside and explain that she was uncomfortable with that and would it be okay if she slept in another room?  Like in that RHONY episode, Dorinda was fine with Bethenney politely requesting a specific room ahead of time but pissed at Luann for being over the top and rude about it.

It's not like Kary was purposefully treating her guests poorly.  She thought it would be a fun idea (although it wasn't) and she was participating, too. The other ladies played along. 

Kary was so wrong to ask Leann why she never had kids.  That was thoughtless and rude. 

I don't want to tell Leann who is clearly still hurting so much how to deal with her pain. But talking about her suicide to retaliate against Kary seems wrong, especially with Stephanie and D'Andra.  Stephanie looked pretty upset. 

I hope Stephanie is seeing a real therapist and not just the life coach.  As far as life coaches who appear on Bravo shows, this life coach wasn't bad but I would think Stephanie needs more than a life coach to deal with her depression and anxiety (and I would guess that she does have additional help from a doctor). 

Kameron's "Weigh me" was her best line since the $200 starbucks card line from last year. 

I had to fast forward through the wedding dress scene - boring, weird, and so long.

Edited September 19, 2019 by iloveit

[Baltimore Betty]

10 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Ugh, LeeAnne, maybe live within your means.  And not wait until 7 weeks (?!?!?) before your wedding to look for a dress!  

GEE.ZUS!  That house is gorgeous.

I do call BS on that timeline, I bet that this was not her first visit to that designer, it had been arranged for TV since she did a lot of wedding planning when they were not filming, her dress had been designed, fitted and paid for previously...we are dealing with Bravo you know.  Producers probably made the knock off Kevin Lee go in and ask the designer to give some financial consideration to LeeAnn for the dress.  Same with the florist and any other vendor LeeAnn had already booked.

Besides what designer would be so blasé about having to make a wedding dress in such a short time frame unless you are Sondra Celli, 'cause then you could just make a phone call describing what you want, no measurements needed or even a date when you need it. LOL!

[ghoulina]

9 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I missed the first half, but I saw the clip of Travis on a blog I follow. Her priorities tell me everything I need to know about what kind of business woman she is.

Yup. Betcha Mama Dee would have made that meeting, even on 45 minutes of sleep. 

Also, does D'andra commonly contact the WIVES of the contacts she's dealing with? She should have messaged Travis directly. 

2 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

The biggest cringe for me in this episode was grown up women referring to the toilet as a potty, or the need to go as “I need to go potty”. What??!! It’s not cute it just sounds ridiculous!

My youngest is 8 and I still refer to it that way! I'm aware of how ridiculous it sounds, though; and I'm working on using more adult terms. Lol!

[iloveit]

28 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

She should have messaged Travis directly. 

Yeah, it appeared they had each other's phone number, too.  I think she just knew she was being unprofessional and was embarrassed to contact him.  I liked that Jeremy didn't buy into her BS excuses. And I am glad that D'Andra ultimately admitted she was wrong. 

[Sage47]

Leanne is so deranged. “Yea, and maybe I’ll commit suicide tonight”.... Um. 

Of COURSE I feel for her about her ungodly upbringing. Horrible! But threatening suicide casually like that? Get a grip lady. Maybe you don’t belong on reality TV. 

 And of course, throwing out “her story” for the nine millionth time to get sympathy. She is an attention-seeking nutjob. 

I am honestly asking this question: how has Rich stuck with her this long-and now married her?! She seems utterly exhausting. She is unbalanced and has serious anger issues. I’m sure if he ever even mentioned breaking up she would be threatening suicide in two seconds flat. Poor guy. 

On an upbeat note: Hilton speaking Spanish is too cute for words! 

[CrinkleCutCat]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Yup. Betcha Mama Dee would have made that meeting, even on 45 minutes of sleep. 

Also, does D'andra commonly contact the WIVES of the contacts she's dealing with? She should have messaged Travis directly. 

My youngest is 8 and I still refer to it that way! I'm aware of how ridiculous it sounds, though; and I'm working on using more adult terms. Lol!

Potty:

Is it a US v other countries thing? I’m in Australia and a potty is a plastic receptacle for toddlers to sit on and wee/poo. A potty is not a toilet. Adults don’t “go potty”! I hear you that you are still using a term you are used to using with your child.... but is it common in the US for adults to still use this terminology?! Asking for anthropological reasons! I’m always fascinated with cultural differences ... we may share a common language but we can be waaaaaay different!

Edited September 19, 2019 by CrinkleCutCat

[FancyNancy]

55 minutes ago, iloveit said:

Yeah, it appeared they had each other's phone number, too.  I think she just knew she was being unprofessional and was embarrassed to contact him.  I liked that Jeremy didn't buy into her BS excuses. And I am glad that D'Andra ultimately admitted she was wrong. 

I agree, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable with texting someone’s husband at 1:30 am even if it’s about business.

[SoTheresThat]

Does anyone else think that maybe the whole Kary/Leanne rooming situation was set up by production to cause drama?

I wouldn't want to share a bed with anyone besides my husband.

If it wasn't producer driven, neither of them was very gracious about the situation.

A guest should be respectful of her host's wishes, but a host should also be respectful of her guest's feelings.

Although I might sleep in the same bed as Kary if that would get me an invite to vacation at that amazing house!

[Marley]

Leanne was being a negative Nancy but I wouldn’t want to sleep with some other random adult either. I’m an adult I’ll have my own bed. I don’t know why Kary thought that would be fun.

Kary was being a b when she asked Leanne about having kids. She was trying to throw a subtle jab. Like Leanne is 50 the ship has sailed who cares. D’andra doesn’t have kids either why wasn’t she asking her.

D’andra telling Stephanie she’s not unprofessional was funny just because you say it doesn’t make it true. I don’t know if that scene was fake but I could totally buy it being for real. 

Stephanie is my fave. I hope she and Travis are doing well.

Pretty sure Brandi snuck off to bed caysecshe was prob wasted and she’s maybe trying to not appear as drunk on camera as before. Her kid is a total brat tho I have to ff when the kids on.

So far still don’t like Kary. Kind of wish the other Cary was still on lol she brought the drama most times.

[Jel]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I do call BS on that timeline, I bet that this was not her first visit to that designer, it had been arranged for TV since she did a lot of wedding planning when they were not filming, her dress had been designed, fitted and paid for previously...we are dealing with Bravo you know.  Producers probably made the knock off Kevin Lee go in and ask the designer to give some financial consideration to LeeAnn for the dress.  Same with the florist and any other vendor LeeAnn had already booked.

Besides what designer would be so blasé about having to make a wedding dress in such a short time frame unless you are Sondra Celli, 'cause then you could just make a phone call describing what you want, no measurements needed or even a date when you need it. LOL!

Yes, and especially since last week they made a big show about how LeeAnn gets her wedding stuff for free because of everything she's done to showcase these people through her cheerity work on behalf of Dallas sossahatee.  That was a l'il Bravo-ing there I think: they do like their awkward moments.

[Higgins]

59 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Potty:

Is it a US v other countries thing? I’m in Australia and a potty is a plastic receptacle for toddlers to sit on and wee/poo. A potty is not a toilet. Adults don’t “go potty”! I hear you that you are still using a term you are used to using with your child.... but is it common in the US for adults to still use this terminology?! Asking for anthropological reasons! I’m always fascinated with cultural differences ... we may share a common language but we can be waaaaaay different!

I use it as a 50 year old mother of 3 and grandmother of two toddlers. I've never considered it strange and I'm not sure why I don't find it so.

[cheewhiz]

It was so uncomfortable to watch Lee-Ann's wedding planner beg for a free wedding dress. So much entitlement. "Remember where I came from"  Gross.

ETA: Lee-Ann is disgusting through the whole dang show.  I just cannot with her.

Edited September 19, 2019 by cheewhiz

[Lizzing]

Yeah, "going potty" is just a cutesy way of saying "going to the bathroom", not necessarily indicative of the recepticle, at least in my experience.  Interesting that it's thought of differently in Australia! I don't think it's all that weird, but then I trained my dog to go out for toilet activity by asking him if he needs a "potty break".  Sometimes that might bleed into conversations with people. 😄  And while that bathroom in Mexico wasn't exactly the best on the planet, clearly these women have never road tripped much in their lives if it was the worst they've ever seen.  I'm still scarred from the outhouse experience of my youth when driving to Pennsylvania.  (It was the 80s, and it was their official rest stop on the highway, not some 1940s back roads deal.)

@LibertarianSlut I'm glad you commented about D'Andra's roots because I thought I saw them too.  That hair story was ridiculous.  And, whether or not the whole Travis meeting thing was a set-up (and I'm inclined to believe most of it was), what really bugged me about it was her apology call:  her voice got all quivery, like she was going to cry.  She was ramping herself up to an overly emotional state, in case Travis came down on her too hard.  And perhaps she was disappointed she couldn't turn on the waterworks once he said he was ok to reschedule.  There are few things that piss me off as much as a woman intentionally turning on the tears in a business setting.

The other thing I call BS on is the 3 hour drive down from Puerto Vallarta to Careyes.  They could have flown into Manzanillo, which is much closer.  I think production was trying to make them crazier than usual, a la the Southern Charm skiing trip's long bus ride.

[amarante]

I think that that there was probably supposed to be a filmed scene between Travis and D'Andrea which is why he had put aside the whole morning. That's why the Bravo film crew was there when Stephanie contacted Travis when he was at the office. 

But D'Andrea NOT showing was actually better for the show than some boring ass discussion on business strategy between Travis and D'Andrea. 

And of course it goes without saying that no one who actually works for their money doesn't show up for work let alone a meeting with a theoretically important business contact. You slick your hair back - isn't that what we sad working peasants do on hectic mornings 🤣

As for Kary and her scheme to have the women bond I say that is some kind of plot element intended to drive the women a bit crazy. The women are together essentially 24/7 - unless you want to seduce someone no adult deliberately has another adult person share their bed. It's bad enough to have to share a room with someone else if there are alternatives but sharing a bed is ridiculous and just made Kary appear to be a devious shit stirrer. The bedrooms are the only place to escape from the stress of being with the women and being filmed 24/7.

Of course all of the promotional stuff was set up before hand. ALL of the women get promotional breaks any time any supplier or store is filmed or mentioned. What was cringe worthy was why it was so heavy handed with the wedding dress designer. I guess Leanne thought her having all of these people "owe" her because of her behind the scene importance among "society" was somewhat of a plot line but still it was done in a manner that made everyone look bad.

I don't think Leanne is rich on the same level as Kameron or Stephanie or even Brandi. However, she evidently did have somewhat of a career as an actress/reality "star prior to RHOD so I think she had enough so that she didn't have to sling burgers prior to RHOD. At this point her salary must be pretty good and as with any of the women, they get a very subsidized lifestyle which is worth quite a bit and it doesn't appear that she is spending her salary by substantially upgrading her lifestyle as she is still living a relatively frugal middle class style.

[AuntiePam]

I liked that the women appeared to actually eat dinner.  And they seemed to enjoy it.  Did I see flan?

Odd that Brandi left the table without saying anything.  I've never had the kind of debilitating poop that Stephanie described, but I suppose it's possible.  Brandi didn't seem to be drinking any more than anyone else.

I watched a POV documentary last night about a family trying to make a go of a small dairy farm and cheese-making business.  It reminded me of RHoD because the husband and three of the four kids were redheads.  But that was the only similarity.  The farm kids worked along with mom and dad, no complaints, and mom and dad obviously enjoyed spending time with the kids.  It was nice to see.

[iloveit]

2 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

I agree, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable with texting someone’s husband at 1:30 am even if it’s about business.

She could have texted them both at the same time if she felt weird about just texting Travis.

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

I agree, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable with texting someone’s husband at 1:30 am even if it’s about business.

Well, she shouldn't have been texting anyone at 1:30 am. But I'm not sure I see what the difference is. She was dealing with Travis, so she should have contacted him directly. It's not like she was sending lewd pics or dirty texts. 

2 hours ago, Marley said:

Pretty sure Brandi snuck off to bed caysecshe was prob wasted and she’s maybe trying to not appear as drunk on camera as before. Her kid is a total brat tho I have to ff when the kids on.

That 10 year old Lucifer is probably WHY she drinks. Because, yea, she was passed out drunk. Steph trying to cover by saying she had an "exhausting poo" was sweet, but not believable. And they're on vacation, so who really cares?

[heatherchandler]

1 hour ago, AuntiePam said:

I watched a POV documentary last night about a family trying to make a go of a small dairy farm and cheese-making business.  It reminded me of RHoD because the husband and three of the four kids were redheads.  But that was the only similarity.  The farm kids worked along with mom and dad, no complaints, and mom and dad obviously enjoyed spending time with the kids.  It was nice to see.

That sounds like a good doc, where did you see it?

[amarante]

3 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

I agree, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable with texting someone’s husband at 1:30 am even if it’s about business.

What difference does it make when you send a text or an email. That's the great thing about texts and emails that you can send them whenever because the recipient is going to pick it up when they are picking up their messages or email.

And what kind of crazy sensibilities are there that make it risqué to send a text regarding a business meeting to a man - any man or person. How is it different if the message was sent at 9 AM.

Anyway the point is that it is not reasonable BUSINESS behavior to cancel an 8 AM meeting at 1:30 because the other person will have set aside that time for the meeting. If there is a true emergency, there is nothing to do but cancel on short notice knowing the other person will essentially be left high and dry. However, no serious business person cancels ANY meeting however the notice because their hair isn't "right". At any event, the issue was that she was TIRED because of how long it had taken the hair color to be done correctly. And no serious business ever admits that they can't be available for business on limited sleep.

On the subject of hair, I know that hair preferences in Dallas differ from most other places but I am finding the extreme hair length of D'Andrea and Leanne to be beyond ridiculous. If you ain't Crystal Gayle don't get below waist extensions. Even Kyle from Beverly Hills cut her hair to a normal "long" length and I think that Kyle's hair was actually her own hair. FWIW, I am NOT jealous as I have been blessed by thick hair which will grow down to my knees if I wanted it to. 😀

[FancyNancy]

42 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Well, she shouldn't have been texting anyone at 1:30 am. But I'm not sure I see what the difference is. She was dealing with Travis, so she should have contacted him directly. It's not like she was sending lewd pics or dirty texts. 

This!