S04.E03: Cannes You Cook?

[OnceSane]

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The crew comes to terms with Mila's controversial views; Capt. Sandy's friend, Dr. Jennifer Berman, returns with the expectation of leaving the dock this year; Joao struggles to motivate Jack; Colin wonders if the new crew is too bawdy for him.

Airs June 17, 2019.

[chenoa333]

This episode hasn't aired yet on the West coast but I must say: Yuck, Capt. Sandy is back. I guess I'll watch anyway.

ETA! I don't know how I got the DISH TV set on "stretch" mode but I have to say, seeing these crew members looking like a bunch of Wide Glide Harley's is pretty funny!😁

Edited June 18, 2019 by chenoa333

[Emmeline]

All I can say is that Joao was looking mighty fine at dinner.  Of course after they went to the bar he looked toasted.

Hannah should also go over menus with Mila before hand.  I think she did that with Chef Matt.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Emmeline

[mbaywife123]

"Sexy Hitler" OMG!

[TexasGal]

Wow - Joao sending the crew to bed and cleaning up after everyone.  I feel my hate from last season wavering.

Are they not even pretending like the preference sheet meeting has any significance anymore?  I mean, they had it 2 hours before they arrived.  How would menus be theoretically planned and supplies ordered?

[mbaywife123]

Nothing worse than slimey tasting seafood.

[rideashire]

Mila has to be a plant for Anastasia to take over the kitchen, right? No one can be this bad at being a chef, can they? It's painful.

[Kiki777]

Ok that stew (Ayesha?) is weird and gross but she is cracking me up with that poo story!  I was fascinated with it too when I was little.

(I didn't do what she did though - but at age 5 I thought that people's poo was the same color as their skin so when I was at a (white) friend's house I insisted she show me hers after she was done.  It was an early lesson in racial equality)

[TexasGal]

Awww Colin.  Yes, like sex.  Snort!!

[pieinmyeye]

Going into this season after not caring for Hannah past seasons, I had high hopes for her after the first couple of episodes. After about 20 minutes of this episode, not so much. She acts like she’s in middle school. I don’t agree with what Mila said at all, but Hannah is spreading what she said like wildfire.  Her lack of decorum doesn’t say chief stew to me.

[PaperTree]

Nice to see Mila in a hot shit soup of her own making.  She's the villain every show needs.

I must say her restaurant meal looked awful, but she ordered it.  A little karma to start the evening.  Maybe a producer spoke to the staff?

"Sexy Hitler"  lol.   horndog.  Still lazy.  Hannah nails him.  Does the absolute minimum to not get fired.  I've worked with them.  

Joao managed to not over indulge and turn obnoxious.  Impressive.  Steps us well to help the interior.

Then Mila pulls out the classic non-apology apology bigots are so skilled at.  Travis doesn't go for it.

Then she serves crap for lunch and lies about it.  Frozen shrimp from Vietnam and crabmeat in a can doesn't qualify as "fresh".  I wanted Sandy or somebody to look in the trash and nail her.

Hannah handled it all well.  

Anastasia (and Mom!) to the rescue.  Mila haz a sad.  Aww.

Badmouths the salad, overcooks the steaks.  She's so awful she's becoming a caricature.

Aesha is still very weird, but is funny as hell.

I'm glad Colin wasn't seriously hurt.  He's funny as hell too.

[terrymct]

Outside of Mila, it’s a pretty good crew this year.  One deckhand who’s a weeee bit lazy, but overall a decent group.  Hopefully Sandy cans Mila at the end of this trip.  

Sandy’s friend is a piece of work, a loud and demanding person who gets more rude as she drinks more and more.  She was right about the crummy food but I swear she’s like a cast member of The Jersey Shore.  

[breezy424]

 A pretty good episode.  I'm still liking the interior crew and the outside, except for Jack.  He kind of bugs me with his lazy attitude.

Mila - just yuck.  I'm having a hard time taking her seriously as chef.  It's got to be an act!  No?

[Guest]

I really like the dynamic they've got going right now where Sandy, Joao, and Hannah are getting along and helping each other out to solve the problem that is Mila to try to keep the charter from being a total disaster.

[snarts]

50 minutes ago, pieinmyeye said:

Going into this season after not caring for Hannah past seasons, I had high hopes for her after the first couple of episodes. After about 20 minutes of this episode, not so much. She acts like she’s in middle school. I don’t agree with what Mila said at all, but Hannah is spreading what she said like wildfire.  Her lack of decorum doesn’t say chief stew to me.

I didn't see this at all. Yes, Hannah told Joao but he was literally the last to hear. Hannah wasn't running around telling people, she wasn't even in that van and only learned about it when Anastasia told her.  

Also not sure how her position as chief stew somehow means she shouldn't have an opinion on Mila's comments. Are bosuns held to the same standard? 

Literally loving the crew aside from Mila. 

Spoiler

Hope the Ven rumors are true. I can see him getting right in. 

[VagueDisclaimer]

I’m wary to say it, but...i’m really enjoying this season? Last season was such a mess, I couldn’t even finish it out. But it seems some kind of peace and understanding was found between Capt. Sandy and Hannah and I truly believe that helped set the tone. Plus Joao must’ve entered some kind of douche rehabilitation program and has been shockingly helpful. 

I also think the rest of the crew is doing well, are actually putting forth effort, and mostly seem to get along, again setting a very positive tone.

Of course there’s Mila, the proudly homophobic, Putin-positive, incompetent chef, but I’m sure she won’t be here the whole season, so for the time being, I can appreciate how everyone deals with her trash self. I really appreciated Travis’ response to her non-apology, “You didn’t hurt my feelings. Your opinion hurts humanity. Done. Finished.”

Because, honestly, hate isn’t an opinion. And while she shouldn’t (and won’t) be fired for sharing her hate, no one needs to dismiss it as just a difference of opinion. She held up “freedom of speech”(which made me laugh), which is true, but everyone else can easily exercise their freedoms in response. They all continued working with her and we’ve all had to work with trash, too, but, like all hateful people, she has no real understanding or awareness. 

I don’t think she’s a plant, exactly. No more than any of the other cast. I do think casting chose her for her attitude and knew full well she wasn’t an accomplished chef. But I definitely don’t think it’s all some act. 

Edited June 18, 2019 by VagueDisclaimer

[mbaywife123]

Mila's next job will be making pb&j's ( that's peanut butter & jelly you daft girl) with Pringles (R) and Flavor aid (R) with no sugar on a chum boat on the Bering Sea off the coast of Kamchatka or Magadan.

[njbchlover]

I seriously can't figure out what Le Cordon Bleu training Mila had (if any at all, other than reading or watching Youtube videos) because she can't even make a decent grilled cheese sandwich.  When Hannah came in and asked for a replacement lunch of grilled cheese sandwiches, Mila immediately started putting bread in the toaster.  Now, I don't know, but I'm assuming that even in France, where she supposedly trained, a grilled cheese sandwich should not start out with toasted bread.  The bread on the sandwich is spread with butter (or, sometimes, mayonnaise) and toasted slowely in the saute pan while the cheese melts, correct?  That's the way I was taught.  Something tells me Mila would have toasted the bread, pulled the plastic wrap off a couple of slices of processed "cheese food", slapped that crap between the toast and shoved the whole thing in the microwave to melt the cheese.  

Anastasia saved Mila's ass with that dinner salad, but Mila's so full of herself, she wouldn't listen that keeping the steaks in the pan would continue to cook them?  The guests complained that there was no flavor and the steaks were stringy.  As far as I could see, they looked a little on the well done side.  

Last week, I didn't think she was a plant, but now, I'm not so sure.  I still can't understand how anyone would allow themselves to look so bad on a reality show if she's faking it, so I'm all confused about this.  It's obvious that Mila won't be long for this show, so I guess we all wait to see how it plays out.  But, I really hope to see Mila get the takedown she deserves - in the kitchen (not because of her opinions on lifestyles).  I want to see pots flying and tempers flaring!!  🙂  Something tells me Anastasia can go head to head with Mila and come out winning!  

I'm also not too sure how I feel about Aesha.  I mean, she's funny at times, but I wonder if her crude comments and odd conversations are more for shock value, or she's just a "really out there" personality.  She seems to be very intelligent, and not afraid to laugh at herself, but sometimes, she seems like an 11 year boy with her conversation choices.

And, Jack, while he is entertaining and makes me laugh, just seems to be supremely lazy.  He is, just as Hannah says, the type that will do as little as he can just so he doesn't get fired.  But, he does make me giggle with all the ways he tries to get out of work - and, at least, he's upfront and honest about it!  

Not minding the rest of the crew so far.  I still love Colin, and Travis is okay at this point-my opinion may change on him, though, given the previews.  Joao is not irritating me, Hannah seems to be worker harder this season and is not being super condescending, Sandy isn't micro-managing.....yet!  I'm waiting to see what is was that gets Sandy annoyed with the interior crew (as seen in the previews).  It's still early in the season, and things can change as quickly as the tide.  

Edited June 18, 2019 by njbchlover

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Mila is not a chef. Well maybe she's a chef of canned food cuisine.  Chef Boy-u-suck-ee  She's not much of a human being either. I'm appalled by her views on homosexuality, and her general attitude. The girl always looks like she's sniffing a fart. 

I''m not sure why Colin isn't comfy with the new crew. They all seem pretty decent. He really doesn't seem his usual goofy rapping self. I thought for sure he'd be rapping bad tunes to Aesha. 

Aesha. I kinda get her. I'm very much a weirdo. I've toned it down a lot over the years. Especially at work. I couldn't imagine talking about poo, or asking for a vibrator in front of my boss! But with my close friends it is a different story. Anyway. I like her. 

Travis. He's sexy, but a smoker. Yuck. Maybe he and ashtray Hannah can deep throat the nicotine out of each other. 

Anastasia rocks. Amazing work ethic. Super nice. Professional. 

Jack. He funny.  He's a lazy ass, but sexy af. 

Jwow really pulled up his socks this year. I'm getting get turned on. 

Hannah. Snob. Mean girl. Acts very superior. Immediately turns into the town gossip as soon as she finds dirt on someone else. She lucky she's got an awesome crew this season. 

[HunterHunted]

3 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

Going into this season after not caring for Hannah past seasons, I had high hopes for her after the first couple of episodes. After about 20 minutes of this episode, not so much. She acts like she’s in middle school. I don’t agree with what Mila said at all, but Hannah is spreading what she said like wildfire.  Her lack of decorum doesn’t say chief stew to me.

Hannah has always been passive aggressive and gossipy. Though the person who actually lit the match was Anastasia who immediately shared it with Aesha, who was in that van, and then ran to the bathroom to share it with Hannah. Hannah comes back with standoffish body language. Hannah pulls Travis aside to chat with him about the incident. Hannah and Travis come back to the table. She asks Joao to move because she can't sit at Mila's end. Hannah sits down and shares it with Colin. At the same time, Aesha, Jack, and Travis start openly discussing it at the table. Hannah shares it with Joao when they go to the second bar. I feel like Anastasia and Hannah are equally guilty. Is a lying incompetent bigot owed decorum?

That dry mop on Mila's head is a PSA for tolerance. That hair is what happens when gay people are raised in bigoted repressive environments. If you don't care about human rights, at least care about your hair. This message is brought to you by GLAAD, the HRC, and Pantene.

In the getting ready for the charter montage, Mila is once again smelling things in the pantry. Why? They restocked the boat 3 days ago. This suggests that she is using old produce and didn't have the sense to move it forward and use it first. Though it's possible those could be the truffles too. Canned shrimp and crab though. In my best Tom Colicchio voice, "If you know the product is no good, you don't have to use it and you certainly don't have to serve it." For fucks sake.

Spoiler

Hannah said on WWHL that a google image search of Mila's dish reveals that they were someone else's. I am unsurprised.

Sexy Hitler. Jack might be the biggest fuckboi on tv right now.

3 hours ago, terrymct said:

Sandy’s friend is a piece of work, a loud and demanding person who gets more rude as she drinks more and more.  She was right about the crummy food but I swear she’s like a cast member of The Jersey Shore.  

She was sooooooooooooo trashy. Just a loud drunk trashy mess.

Edited June 18, 2019 by HunterHunted

[biakbiak]

28 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Though the person who actually lit the match was Anastasia who immediately shared it with Aesha, who was in that van, and then ran to the bathroom to share it with Hannah. 

If someone who I had to work with spewed that vile homophobic crap I would tell everyone who had to come into contact with her. 

[scrb]

How can Mila live in France and wherever else she learned English and hold on to such small-minded views?

And in hospitality, she must have encountered some gay people that she got along with?

Those guests, obviously egged on by the producers to be blunt about sex.  They had to mention the primary is the leading expert in LA of vaginal rejuvenation?

Why the fuck is that relevant to how their charter goes?

Because obviously she wanted that advertised as part of her compensation for appearing on the show and then doing a poor imitation of Dr. Ruth.

Hannah was too eager to spread the news, like trying to get everyone to hate Mila.

[biakbiak]

7 minutes ago, scrb said:

e guests, obviously egged on by the producers to be blunt about sex.  They had to mention the primary is the leading expert in LA of vaginal rejuvenation?

She was like that last season as well, I don’t think she needs to be prodded to be like that.

7 minutes ago, scrb said:

Hannah was too eager to spread the news, like trying to get everyone to hate Mila.

But why shouldn’t she be? Her views aren’t acceptable and should make her a pariah.

Edited June 18, 2019 by biakbiak

[MVFrostsMyPie]

I'm with the rest of the crew on their reaction to Mila's opinions.

I remember I used to have a mild crush on this dude back when I was in college, until one day he shared his opinion that he thinks gay people choose to be gay, and immediately any attraction or even positive opinions of him went out the window.... and I went out the door, drove home and never talked to him again (he later showed multiple more reasons to dislike him as not being a good, moral person, so I felt sound in my decision). My patience with people these days still being homophobic, racist or sexist is at an all-time low and I just have no tolerance for their bigoted ways of thinking. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Edited June 18, 2019 by MVFrostsMyPie

[VagueDisclaimer]

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

. Is an lying incompetent bigot owed decorum?

19 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

But why shouldn’t she be? Her views aren’t acceptable and should make her a pariah.

This is where I am. Like I get Hannah has a history, but this wasn’t some secret sharing. Mila was stating all of this, loud and proud, so why is she owed anything else? She is quite literally dehumanizing people, equivocated men having sex together with beastiality. IMO, the smallest issue here is Hannah gossiping. 

Edited June 18, 2019 by VagueDisclaimer

[HunterHunted]

8 hours ago, Emmeline said:

Hannah should also go over menus with Mila before hand.  I think she did that with Chef Matt.

That was actually Kate on the mothership. Kate always has a bit of a chat with the chef before the meals to go over menus, but she had to take an extra firm hand with Matt because Bruno, the most junior deckhand, ended up doing a lot of menu planning with/for Matt. Matt was almost completely lacking in imagination, but he could cook unlike Mila.

[Kdawg82]

I'm with Colin on this one: "I like everyone just fine but they're not really mu kind of people I'd hang out with." TOTALLY! 

I find them all to be caricatures. I don't think any of them could get a date or a job after this type of behavior. Anastasia is the most "normal" one. But they all fit the gossip thing with Mila and the van ride convo. 

Aesha is annoying as all hell with her stupid "sense of humor." I've always found over the top sexual and toilet humor to be so un-funny. Give me a witty retort or a clever pun and I'm all about it. I just don't like any of them this year...bleh.

[terrymct]

8 hours ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

I’m wary to say it, but...i’m really enjoying this season? Last season was such a mess, I couldn’t even finish it out. But it seems some kind of peace and understanding was found between Capt. Sandy and Hannah and I truly believe that helped set the tone. Plus Joao must’ve entered some kind of douche rehabilitation program and has been shockingly helpful. 

I was a bit worried during the segment at the bar when Joao said that he had to be careful not to let his drunk self (forgot the name he gives his drunk alter ego) come out.   If this was fiction, that'd be a big old Chekhov's Gun plopped right down in the middle of the table.  Hopefully if he does slip it won't be until right at the end of the season.   I also hope the stews are smart enough not to start having sex with the deck hands.  That never, ever goes well.  I've said this in past seasons, but it bears repeating.  I work on boats.  I have relatives who manage high end charters.   In neither case is fraternization among the crew allowed.  Nor is bringing a one night stand back to the boat allowed.  You'd lose your job on the spot.

Edited to add an additional thought.  In addition to not being able to cook, Mila isn't meal planning and ordering off that plan.   Is someone going to notice all that extra food?  The fresh stuff that's going to waste?  If she planned, she could order fresh seafood...or order very high quality frozen seafood.  That is actually a thing.  Any provisioning company in these ports can get you pretty much anything for a price.  Instead of using her budget to buy high quality items, Mila is ordering everything but the kitchen sink and hoping something occurs to her.  Those deliveries look like she did her ordering at 2am when she was drunk and hungry.

Edited June 18, 2019 by terrymct
added another thought

[bosawks]

I do kind of wish BRAVO hires a Mila on a BD Kate season.

I mean, she'd only last one episode before she mysteriously "fell" overboard, but what a glorious episode it would be.......

[nr65000]

10 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

Going into this season after not caring for Hannah past seasons, I had high hopes for her after the first couple of episodes. After about 20 minutes of this episode, not so much. She acts like she’s in middle school. I don’t agree with what Mila said at all, but Hannah is spreading what she said like wildfire.  Her lack of decorum doesn’t say chief stew to me.

Exactly.  I also felt my loathing for Hannah Honaaayyy wavering until this episode.  She is so unprofessional and such a bully.  Of course what Mila said was repugnant and I find it personally offensive, but Hannah behaves in such an unprofessional manner, I find it hard to believe that anyone takes her seriously.  Just like the resume incident last season, she can not wait to spill the tea.  She is extremely immature and I think a comparison with a middle schooler is about right, if not a little optimistic.  Of course I have no problem with her speaking to others about Mila's idiotic rant but I think she handled it poorly.  

Edited June 18, 2019 by nr65000

[HunterHunted]

6 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

Mila is not a chef. Well maybe she's a chef of canned food cuisine.  Chef Boy-u-suck-ee  She's not much of a human being either. I'm appalled by her views on homosexuality, and her general attitude. The girl always looks like she's sniffing a fart. 

She's teeeeeeeerrible.

Thanks Aesha.

[dosodog]

This is so silly, but I'm proud of Joao.  I think he really did watch and evaluate his life after last season and is working at being a better person.

If he continues this season with the same attitude as the first 4 episodes, we may have the first reality tv show participant, that shows actual, real growth!

Although there could be a JezeBob appearance at some point....as long as it's an appearance. 

Because once in a blue moon, my evil alter ego, Cathy with a C, makes an appearance too.....

[metalchik]

45 minutes ago, nr65000 said:

 she can not wait to spill the tea

THIS!  That irked me how she couldn't wait to tell someone.

And Aeysha (or however you spell it) her voice grates.

Just now, dosodog said:

Because once in a blue moon, my evil alter ego, Cathy with a C, makes an appearance too.....

Haha I too have an alter....Cherie...she's best kept far away from everyone.  lol

[dosodog]

Ha!  Recently I saw a quote on Facebook that I could have used during the Cathy with a C years:

Don't come at sober me over what drunk me did.  Sober me wasn't there and has no idea what you're talking about!

[metalchik]

15 minutes ago, dosodog said:

Don't come at sober me over what drunk me did.  Sober me wasn't there and has no idea what you're talking about!

Yesss!  I've used this quote on my FB page before and it's so TRUE!  

[Mindthinkr]

I liked the way that Anastasia went into the galley and demanded a chefs jacket to wear while she cooked. They have limited uniforms (stews) and grease and food stains could have made her going back to interior work (with now marked up clothes) look unprofessional. It was obvious that Mila didn’t want to share. Don’t know how she got one (production stepped in?), so Anastasia went to iron it so she looked professional. Then the comment that Mila said about not letting a third stew tell her how to cook. Ha...and then the steaks were “fine”. Not great, not good, but just fine. Anastasia was correct. The meat needed to come out of the pan, tented with foil and rested for maximum juiciness. Frankly many people here on this thread could have produced better food for the guests. 

[AttackTurtle]

Joao really did a 180!  Good for him.  And honestly, Hannah is off to a good start.  Captain Sandy is still a camera whore and I really just miss Captain Lee when she is on.

Thus far the stews are pretty great.  

We knew at bottled ranch dressing that the chef was a fraud.  

They’re lucky to have Anastasia, but they really need a true trained chef.  

[esco1822]

I feel like Aesha just says stuff to gross out Sandy and get her to leave the room. We should all be thanking Aesha.  

[Giselle]

1 hour ago, dosodog said:

This is so silly, but I'm proud of Joao.  I think he really did watch and evaluate his life after last season and is working at being a better person.

If he continues this season with the same attitude as the first 4 episodes, we may have the first reality tv show participant, that shows actual, real growth!

Although there could be a JezeBob appearance at some point....as long as it's an appearance. 

Because once in a blue moon, my evil alter ego, Cathy with a C, makes an appearance too.....

Tiffany from Season 1 Top Chef saw herself and did a 180. She said so and you could see the change in her when she came back for a later season.

[Giselle]

3 minutes ago, Giselle said:

Tiffany from Season 1 Top Chef saw herself and did a 180. She said so and you could see the change in her when she came back for a later season.

50 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

Joao really did a 180!  Good for him.  And honestly, Hannah is off to a good start.  Captain Sandy is still a camera whore and I really just miss Captain Lee when she is on.

Thus far the stews are pretty great.  

We knew at bottled ranch dressing that the chef was a fraud.  

They’re lucky to have Anastasia, but they really need a true trained chef.  

Season 1 Ben was speaking with a guest about her preferences and ended with "I make everything from scratch."

I don't think that phrase was ever uttered by the Siberian Slop Slinger.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Giselle
Sorry forgot to clear a wrongly quoted self-post before this post.

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, dosodog said:

This is so silly, but I'm proud of Joao.  I think he really did watch and evaluate his life after last season and is working at being a better person.

If he continues this season with the same attitude as the first 4 episodes, we may have the first reality tv show participant, that shows actual, real growth!

Although there could be a JezeBob appearance at some point....as long as it's an appearance. 

Because once in a blue moon, my evil alter ego, Cathy with a C, makes an appearance too.....

I don't have an evil alter ego but I do have an inner redhead. 

[JennyMominFL]

If someone said the shit that Mila did, Im sorry, but I would tell everyone.

[jmcd44]

I was annoyed during the gossip scenes last night but not because people were gossiping.  I would be at the front of the line.  But that they didn't know the full story.  It wasn't just that she didn't want to see two men kiss (and I hate PDA but pecks, holding hands, and the like don't bother me for anyone to anyone), but that she compared it to bestiality and then praised a government oppressing people for who they are.  What if her precious Putin had outlawed women working?  Or leaving Russia?  (We wouldn't have her train wreck so...that is actually nice)  She's a hateful shit of a person.  And if I'm going to smack talk and gossip (and I am going to), I need the full list of reasons to dislike you.  I don't even feel bad because she sucks and her "Oh but I have a gay friend..."  I've seen your hair Mila-he's not your friend.

Also I now love Travis.  I might have to cheat on my BD boyfriend Ashton with him.

[biakbiak]

One thing I wondered is that Mila said she didn’t want her son to see gay people kissing and I was wondering if it was a hypothetical child or if she has a son.

[Special K]

24 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

"Oh but I have a gay friend..."  I've seen your hair Mila-he's not your friend.

LOL.

When she was ascribing expressing her opinions to "free speech" I wish someone had pointed out to her how Putin feels about free speech.

[terrymct]

1 minute ago, Special K said:

LOL.

When she was ascribing expressing her opinions to "free speech" I wish someone had pointed out to her how Putin feels about free speech.

Freedom of speech is often misinterpreted.  The First Amendment of the US Constitution (which doesn't apply outside of the US, by the way, Mila) says the US Government can't make a law that abridges the freedom of speech.    It does not say that a person is free to say anything they want without consequences.   If you say something, people are free to react to what you say.

So, Miz Mila is wrong on a whole boat load of levels with that assertion.

[DrSparkles]

49 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

I was annoyed during the gossip scenes last night but not because people were gossiping.  I would be at the front of the line.  But that they didn't know the full story.  It wasn't just that she didn't want to see two men kiss (and I hate PDA but pecks, holding hands, and the like don't bother me for anyone to anyone), but that she compared it to bestiality and then praised a government oppressing people for who they are.  What if her precious Putin had outlawed women working?  Or leaving Russia?  (We wouldn't have her train wreck so...that is actually nice)  She's a hateful shit of a person.  And if I'm going to smack talk and gossip (and I am going to), I need the full list of reasons to dislike you.  I don't even feel bad because she sucks and her "Oh but I have a gay friend..."  I've seen your hair Mila-he's not your friend.

Also I now love Travis.  I might have to cheat on my BD boyfriend Ashton with him.

PREACH!!! I also agree w another poster, I do NOT tolerate this bullshit at all. 

ETA: “crab salad, no claws!” {dead}

Edited June 18, 2019 by DrSparkles

[Special K]

10 minutes ago, terrymct said:

Freedom of speech is often misinterpreted.  The First Amendment of the US Constitution (which doesn't apply outside of the US, by the way, Mila) says the US Government can't make a law that abridges the freedom of speech.    It does not say that a person is free to say anything they want without consequences.   If you say something, people are free to react to what you say.

So, Miz Mila is wrong on a whole boat load of levels with that assertion.

Agreed!  People seem to think they have the right to say whatever they want and still, for instance, keep their jobs.

But with regard to Putin, his government actually does crack down on dissenting speech.

[dosodog]

And being gay.

Which could be why her friend doesn't want to hold his boyfriend's hand in public.

It could also just be "PDA" but I think it's more "not going to be fined, jailed or dead".....

[DrSparkles]

1 minute ago, dosodog said:

And being gay.

Which could be why her friend doesn't want to hold his boyfriend's hand in public.

It could also just be "PDA" but I think it's more "not going to be fined, jailed or dead".....

EXACTLY