jd704 February 21, 2018 Share February 21, 2018 The homophobia you describe in Everything Sucks sounds very realistic to me. Rural Oregon in the mid-90s was not much different from the deep south (speaking from experience). Anti-gay discrimination was very real. Oregon voted on statewide anti-gay-rights ballot measures in 1992 and 1994, both of which barely failed (these measures passed by big margins in the rural areas, but liberal Portland had enough people to win the statewide vote). These votes emboldened homophobes. I remember "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" posters on students' lockers, etc. Link to comment
eteffi February 21, 2018 Share February 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, jd704 said: The homophobia you describe in Everything Sucks sounds very realistic to me. Rural Oregon in the mid-90s was not much different from the deep south (speaking from experience). Anti-gay discrimination was very real. Oregon voted on statewide anti-gay-rights ballot measures in 1992 and 1994, both of which barely failed (these measures passed by big margins in the rural areas, but liberal Portland had enough people to win the statewide vote). These votes emboldened homophobes. I remember "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" posters on students' lockers, etc. Interesting; I didn't know that about Oregon. Thanks for the info. As I said on the podcast, I'm sure homophobia was alive and well in ALL high schools in 1996, but I can only go on my experience growing up in the Detroit suburbs, where the homophobia was a bit more subtle (but just as insidious). Link to comment
Cekrypton1 February 21, 2018 Share February 21, 2018 I consistently conflate the Martin Short character on AD with Paul Rubens on 30 Rock. Before Rubens was mentioned, I was thinking, "Wait, Martin Short did this character on both these shows?" Link to comment
Tara Ariano February 22, 2018 Share February 22, 2018 10 hours ago, jd704 said: The homophobia you describe in Everything Sucks sounds very realistic to me. Rural Oregon in the mid-90s was not much different from the deep south (speaking from experience). Anti-gay discrimination was very real. Oregon voted on statewide anti-gay-rights ballot measures in 1992 and 1994, both of which barely failed (these measures passed by big margins in the rural areas, but liberal Portland had enough people to win the statewide vote). These votes emboldened homophobes. I remember "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" posters on students' lockers, etc. To me what made it less believable was that it was coming from the lead drama girl. I went to a rural southern Ontario high school with a huge performing arts program, and those drama kids in 1990-92 would have loooooooooooooved to have accepted a gay friend in the years before they came out themselves :) Seriously though: it also seemed like they were setting up the drama girl to be grappling with something herself, but I don't plan to watch the whole season and find out. Link to comment
Corgi-ears February 22, 2018 Share February 22, 2018 (edited) I zoned out for a minute during the game time instructions (like Dave, I was high on a placebo); it may have then taken me an embarrassingly long time to realize that the answers were not actual shows. I may or may not have even started searching for PeruPaul's Drag Race on Youtube (I mean, there is now a Thai edition of the show). Edited February 22, 2018 by Corgi-ears Link to comment
April Bloodgate February 22, 2018 Share February 22, 2018 (edited) On 2/21/2018 at 11:31 AM, jd704 said: The homophobia you describe in Everything Sucks sounds very realistic to me. Rural Oregon in the mid-90s was not much different from the deep south (speaking from experience). Anti-gay discrimination was very real. Oregon voted on statewide anti-gay-rights ballot measures in 1992 and 1994, both of which barely failed (these measures passed by big margins in the rural areas, but liberal Portland had enough people to win the statewide vote). These votes emboldened homophobes. I remember "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" posters on students' lockers, etc. I second this. I went to high school in the early-mid 2000s and still saw this kind of homophobia in my rurual, but not Southern, high school. Not a single person was openly gay (several of us have come out since); it would have been absolute social suicide. At one point there was a rumor going around that two girls were sleeping together. It was the worst thing anyone could imagine that they might be lesbians. They were ostracized, despite there being no evidence that they actually were gay/bi. I'm not sure if it was related to this, or if their families just happened to move, but both of them transferred schools. Luckily, by the time my sister started high school 7 years later, students were much more open-minded, and the school even started a GSA. Edited February 22, 2018 by April Bloodgate Link to comment
eteffi February 24, 2018 Share February 24, 2018 Semi-fun additional fact I just learned about Everything Sucks: according to a h.s. classmate, Patch Darragh, who plays the principal, went to my actual high school (Ernest W. Seaholm High School, the coolest) and graduated 5 years before me. Which makes me feel even older than this show already made me feel, so... thanks, show. Link to comment
Jesse February 24, 2018 Share February 24, 2018 I swear, since I listened to this podcast, more days than not I've noticed 11:11 on the clock. What does it mean?!?!?! (Nothing, right?) Link to comment
Primetimer February 28, 2018 Share February 28, 2018 First-time guest Kara Brown on the show's attempted comeback from a disastrous second season, plus a Real Housewives Canon and a middle-ing Game Time! View the full article Link to comment
TimeyWimey52 February 28, 2018 Share February 28, 2018 That canon entry was hilarious! How did everyone access this specific episode? It's not on hulu - I checked. Link to comment
Tara Ariano February 28, 2018 Share February 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, TimeyWimey52 said: That canon entry was hilarious! How did everyone access this specific episode? It's not on hulu - I checked. It is on Hulu. Link to comment
TimeyWimey52 February 28, 2018 Share February 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tara Ariano said: It is on Hulu. Is it really?? When I searched "Housewives" only Beverly Hills came up! Thanks Tara! Link to comment
helent March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 Writers, I think the joke of male characters having a female middle name is played out. Link to comment
Jesse March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 So fun to have a new guest in the mix! And I kind of can't believe Dave voted the Housewives into the Canon. Link to comment
Fukui San March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 I... don’t want to jinx it but it’s time to at least consider what song would play for a Valued Guest season victory. Link to comment
David T. Cole March 1, 2018 Author Share March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Jesse said: So fun to have a new guest in the mix! And I kind of can't believe Dave voted the Housewives into the Canon. I'm unknowable! Link to comment
SnideAsides March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 I'm so disappointed the answer was "Francing With The Stars" and not "So You Think You Can France". Link to comment
John Potts March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 I hate to be picky* but Dave is incorrect in saying Thomas Riker was a clone: although Riker WAS cloned in the episode Up the Long Ladder, that clone was aborted (though they didn't use the word) before it became mature - Dave's initial thought was correct in saying it was a transporter mishap (in the episode Second Chances) that brought Thomas Riker into existence. 11 hours ago, Fukui San said: it’s time to at least consider what song would play for a Valued Guest season victory. Particularly since it could be a clean sweep victory! * OK, that's a lie. Link to comment
Fukui San March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 OK, I'll start with victory song suggestions: We Are The Champions - Queen Roar - Katy Perry The Best - Tina Turner Be Our Guest - Beauty and the Beast Link to comment
David T. Cole March 1, 2018 Author Share March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, John Potts said: I hate to be picky* but Dave is incorrect in saying Thomas Riker was a clone: although Riker WAS cloned in the episode Up the Long Ladder, that clone was aborted (though they didn't use the word) before it became mature - Dave's initial thought was correct in saying it was a transporter mishap (in the episode Second Chances) that brought Thomas Riker into existence. Particularly since it could be a clean sweep victory! * OK, that's a lie. Nerd correction cheerfully accepted! Link to comment
David T. Cole March 1, 2018 Author Share March 1, 2018 FYI: The victory music was in the bag about a year ago when the VG got to 3 points. Link to comment
Kerfuffler March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 SO excited for this episode as soon as I saw the guest was Shade Court's The Honorable Kara Brown! Well done with the Canon submission! Did everyone else already know Andy Griffith had such a bad temper? (And also maybe didn't learn lessons? Maybe stop punching the wall after the FIRST time you break your hand?) He always played such mild-mannered characters. Link to comment
heatherkay March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 SO excited for this episode as soon as I saw the guest was Shade Court's The Honorable Kara Brown! Well done with the Canon submission! Did everyone else already know Andy Griffith had such a bad temper? (And also maybe didn't learn lessons? Maybe stop punching the wall after the FIRST time you break your hand?) He always played such mild-mannered characters. You need to watch "A Face in the Crowd." A uncomfortably prescient take on how TV would enable grossly unqualified demagogues to become political forces. Griffith is really good at being really bad. Link to comment
TheOtherLibrarian March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Kerfuffler said: SO excited for this episode as soon as I saw the guest was Shade Court's The Honorable Kara Brown! Well done with the Canon submission! Did everyone else already know Andy Griffith had such a bad temper? (And also maybe didn't learn lessons? Maybe stop punching the wall after the FIRST time you break your hand?) He always played such mild-mannered characters. You need to watch "A Face in the Crowd." A uncomfortably prescient take on how TV would enable grossly unqualified demagogues to become political forces. Griffith is really good at being really bad. LOVE that movie! Haven't thought about it in years, but you're right on about the uncomfortable modern echoes. Link to comment
CUBuckeye March 5, 2018 Share March 5, 2018 I can't play this one... Is it me or the mini? Link to comment
Primetimer March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 Lindsey Weber joins us to discuss the sixth-season premiere of Fox's most adorable cooking show! View the full article Link to comment
Cekrypton1 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 I sounded like a crazy person on my bike this morning as I played along with Game Time.Some other comments: "They were separated by sex..."--I had really hoped that sentence would have been ended with "...those who have had it, those who haven't."Dave's review of NightMan (Night-Man? Knightman?)Dave: "Skipping ahead ..."Me" "Noooo!!" Link to comment
Stowaway March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 I hope everyone in Hawaii feels better soon! Dave had me very concerned when he tweeted out that selfie last weekend. As much for the resigned-martyr expression on his face as the splotches on his bosom. Link to comment
ErinW March 9, 2018 Share March 9, 2018 Was anyone else waiting for Liz Lemon's middle name, and Dave's sure-to-be-amazing attempt to pronounce it? Link to comment
Primetimer March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 First-time guest Kirk Hamilton on the second season's slow burn, plus BoJack Horseman, being worse than jazz, and more! View the full article Link to comment
Stowaway March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 I had the EXACT same imdb spoiler experience Sarah had on Janet McTeer's character. I feel like there was a time when a character like that would have been credited as "The Monster" until the episode the reveal is made. But I guess peak TV eh? Link to comment
Guest GlarkTheUser March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Stowaway said: I feel like there was a time when a character like that would have been credited as "The Monster" until the episode the reveal is made. But I guess peak TV eh? Or "Meaty." Link to comment
Stowaway March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, GlarkTheUser said: Or "Meaty." I think I like "Meathead" for her. Link to comment
MisterGlass March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 I vote for the four episode runs a couple times a year. I think Daredevil season 2 almost did that with the first arc of the Punisher story, and it was great. It would solve the problem of having to have an unstoppable villain every season. There could be average or middling villains if it only takes four episodes to stop them. Link to comment
David T. Cole March 15, 2018 Author Share March 15, 2018 11 hours ago, MisterGlass said: There could be average or middling villains if it only takes four episodes to stop them. Jessica Jones vs. The Bodega Gouger. Link to comment
Kerfuffler March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 I love when Game Time reminds me of shows I liked but had totally forgotten about! Off to find out if Knights of Prosperity is streaming anywhere ... Link to comment
Sarah D. Bunting March 16, 2018 Share March 16, 2018 Looks like it's on Amazon, but for $$, bew. Link to comment
Cekrypton1 March 19, 2018 Share March 19, 2018 C'mon Glark, Johnny Domino is not just any old San Francisco jazz saxophonist, he's San Francisco's "hottest" jazz saxophonists. Give the (night) man his due. Link to comment
Primetimer March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 Our long-suffering stage manager Adam Grosswirth returns to talk about NBC's new high school musical drama! View the full article Link to comment
TeeVee329 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 I love that, not only did Tara include "Precious To Me" in the game, she used the even crappy version of it produced by Serge Menkin. Link to comment
Tara Ariano March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said: I love that, not only did Tara include "Precious To Me" in the game, she used the even crappy version of it produced by Serge Menkin. This phrasing suggests that there's a good version. Link to comment
jima March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 "I just want to brag about the fact that I've read most of the book" Link to comment
Corgi-ears March 22, 2018 Share March 22, 2018 (edited) But "Gordy" is so close to "Gordon," which is a great dog name, but I guess that proves your point. Also, there is a "Great British Bake Off, except with people who can't bake": the current Stand Up 2 Cancer Specials, whereby celebrities, and also Teri Hatcher, bake terribly to raise money. Edited March 22, 2018 by Corgi-ears Link to comment
adam807 March 22, 2018 Share March 22, 2018 15 hours ago, jima said: "I just want to brag about the fact that I've read most of the book" I plan to finish it too! I just didn't manage to before the podcast. There's a LOT of TV and internet out there... Link to comment
Sarah D. Bunting March 22, 2018 Share March 22, 2018 "AAAAAGH" - Bunting MacEachern LLC on that Degrassi question (which is probably one of the few I would have gotten; great game, T-Bone) Link to comment
Monty March 22, 2018 Share March 22, 2018 I can verify that Stephen Colbert's "Charlene" was in Rock Band. I know because it was a very short, simple song, which means that it was the only song I could get 100% on when playing guitar on the hardest setting. Link to comment
Halo March 22, 2018 Share March 22, 2018 I really loved the Canon submission this week! Kudos to Hallie for making me want to rewatch The West Wing when I'm still behind on all the new tv because I can only handle like, two shows. Link to comment
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