scorpio1031 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5201870
TexasBorn April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, rafibomb said: The big fake tits just look trashy, IMO. They're so obviously fake (especially on someone that thin) and always look bolted way too high on the chest. I can certainly understand why someone flat-chested would want breast implants, I just don't get why they skip over, say, a nice c-cup and head straight for porn star territory. Not digging the blow up doll look. Is this the look you want young girls to emulate, Kelli? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5201880
EricaShadows April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: While hip hop IS supposed to be bigger and more exaggerated than other types of dance, it also requires more precision and control (at least to me), which is something that Victoria lacks. She was all OVER the place in that video, like she was trying to shove other dancers out of the way without touching them. Girl, get over yourself and learn some control and precision. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5201905
Holly85 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, TexasBorn said: Not digging the blow up doll look. Is this the look you want young girls to emulate, Kelli? Kelli didn’t make them get a boob job 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5201906
lkxydhfinl ghsdv April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: For comparison.... 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5201922
KickPretty April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 8 hours ago, TUOwl84 said: Both are too skinny! And the camera adds 10lbs. Eat something, geez! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202014
Laurendcc April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Tootie said: For comparison.... I figured Victoria’s problem. It’s her hair. She doesn’t know what to do with it and flops everywhere. Yes it’s gorgeous but she needs to cut it so it doesn’t affect her dancing 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202261
PhilForPoint April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Tootie said: For comparison.... I will say I think it’s one of the better videos of VK, but the comparison.... wow! It doesn’t even look like the same dance. VK reminds me of Caila when she was cut for “dancing” heavy 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202278
nittanyvolleyball April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 I see they still haven't told Maddie her hair looks like a poodle sat on her head 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202362
KatieC April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 10 hours ago, heckkitty said: Do they TRY to find the least flattering pictures of Hannah ever? Her thigh looks bigger than her waist, & her hair has a big chunk out of it like it was cut by a 6-year-old. They posted a different pic on FB and Hannah looks bad in that one too. She is in the same swimsuit so not sure if it’s the cut of the suit or the angle or what but her thigh looks huge in that pic too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202408
J-R April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, PhilForPoint said: I will say I think it’s one of the better videos of VK, but the comparison.... wow! It doesn’t even look like the same dance. VK reminds me of Caila when she was cut for “dancing” heavy I am not an Erica Wilkens fan but saw on her IG she was at Kitty's last night and posted the same dance. I am not a dancer or expert on technique but even I could tell VK was a hot mess compared to Erica. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202429
nittanyvolleyball April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 For the longest time I couldn't understand what people were talking about with VK and her spatial issues, but I see it especially in this one. No one else was moving constantly out of their dance space. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202465
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 10 hours ago, UnicornKicks said: OMG she does NOT look like taht IRL. She is a lean machine and gorgeous. Why would anybody post that? I blame JInelle bc she didn't act like much of a Hannah fan on that one podcast. Seriously though she does not look big AT ALL or harsh in person. Now Rachel W does have longer torso and bigger, shorter legs in person, but not out of proportion or anything. I am sure Jinelle went to Judy and Kelli along with the person who handles the social media pages and told them to post a bad picture of Hannah. This is not the first time or the last time they have posted bad pictures of the girls. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202521
veronicamers April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, PhilForPoint said: I will say I think it’s one of the better videos of VK, but the comparison.... wow! It doesn’t even look like the same dance. VK reminds me of Caila when she was cut for “dancing” heavy I mean, Sydney just makes it look effortless and cool. VK is stomping and flailing about willy nilly. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202524
MelissaB326 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, veronicamers said: I mean, Sydney just makes it look effortless and cool. VK is stomping and flailing about willy nilly. Is Sydney trying out? I was impressed with her, VK just looks like she is trying too hard. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202548
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Holly85 said: Kelli didn’t make them get a boob job True but I remember her making a comment about Christina being flat chested her rookie year. Kelli probably does not care as long as the breasts are tastefully done. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202604
Jennv April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, J-R said: I am not an Erica Wilkens fan but saw on her IG she was at Kitty's last night and posted the same dance. I am not a dancer or expert on technique but even I could tell VK was a hot mess compared to Erica. Grace sells was there and posted a video as well. She makes VK look like an amateur 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202622
TexasBorn April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Holly85 said: Kelli didn’t make them get a boob job True. But she doesn't highlight girls who are athletic, healthy, and natural like Rachel A. Instead she puts them on weight warning. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202739
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TexasBorn said: True. But she doesn't highlight girls who are athletic, healthy, and natural like Rachel A. Instead she puts them on weight warning. And she tells girls who are the same height that they need to weigh the same. For someone who tries to promote healthy weight, she has no clue that girls with the same height can have different body types and look good in the uniform. Edited April 11, 2019 by bigskygirl Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202762
nittanyvolleyball April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 Going off of the whole "you're this height, you need to weigh this much" is really stupid. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202771
KatieC April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 Any evidence CMT was filming? They filmed swimsuit fittings last year. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202773
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, KatieC said: Any evidence CMT was filming? They filmed swimsuit fittings last year. CMT probably film the fittings last year since the calendar shoot was after finals were over. The only reason why they showed the fittings before was the fact they were trying to say the shooting happened after the new squad was announced which of course the fans and viewers knew it happened before auditions actually started. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202785
UnicornKicks April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, bigskygirl said: I am sure Jinelle went to Judy and Kelli along with the person who handles the social media pages and told them to post a bad picture of Hannah. This is not the first time or the last time they have posted bad pictures of the girls. We i don't think that actually happened lol. Guess I wasn't as funny as I thought. But isn't Courtney one of them who does do social media and she kisses Jinelle's ass something bad. I could see Courtney being bitchy and doing that. I'm over Jinelle and her fakeness, but dang Courtney have some self resepect and stop trying to be a DCC. YOU WILL NEVER BE ONE OF THEM. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202878
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said: We i don't think that actually happened lol. Guess I wasn't as funny as I thought. But isn't Courtney one of them who does do social media and she kisses Jinelle's ass something bad. I could see Courtney being bitchy and doing that. I'm over Jinelle and her fakeness, but dang Courtney have some self resepect and stop trying to be a DCC. YOU WILL NEVER BE ONE OF THEM. I would rather have Jinelle do the podcast than Shannon and Courtney together. I secretly wish Marshall would sneak in and do something to Shannon's beard because it looks terrible to me. I was sad when Robin left last year because I think she would be great if she had the chance to be a co-host with Kristy. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202898
TexasBorn April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, veronicamers said: I mean, Sydney just makes it look effortless and cool. VK is stomping and flailing about willy nilly. ON POINT. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202951
Opine April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, TexasBorn said: ON POINT. Who is this Sydney? She is amazing. Is she a potential? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5202971
KatieC April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, bigskygirl said: CMT probably film the fittings last year since the calendar shoot was after finals were over. The only reason why they showed the fittings before was the fact they were trying to say the shooting happened after the new squad was announced which of course the fans and viewers knew it happened before auditions actually started. That makes sense! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203023
JerseyGirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 3 hours ago, J-R said: I am not an Erica Wilkens fan but saw on her IG she was at Kitty's last night and posted the same dance. I am not a dancer or expert on technique but even I could tell VK was a hot mess compared to Erica. i just came here to say the same thing! Funny how WE all noticed it! Erica's rendition looks smooth and strong. VK is not ready for the team this year, after spending ALL YEAR getting ready!?!? Of course she's at Kitty's ... getting bad advise again. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203044
Jennv April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, JerseyGirl said: i just came here to say the same thing! Funny how WE all noticed it! Erica's rendition looks smooth and strong. VK is not ready for the team this year, after spending ALL YEAR getting ready!?!? Of course she's at Kitty's ... getting bad advise again. The comments on her IG though! All telling her how fantastic she is. I'm over here wondering who these people are and if they are watching the same video I am. All I see is a flailing mess of arms and hair 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203124
SmpIsimon April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 I bet you that Christina sought assurances from Kelli that her boob job wouldn't impact the contractual requirement that she maintain her audition weight given that those honkers would add a few pounds. 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203130
dreamcatcher April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 18 hours ago, sleepyjean said: I suppose you could argue that "separate but equal" isn't truly equal. The DCC have access to opportunities, compensation, perks, and benefits that the R&B do not have. Which isn't to say the R&B are some kind of JV squad, but the DCC are the BMOC and everyone knows that. I agree that they would have to change a LOT, but other teams have done so. The DCC could do it too, but I'm sure they don't want to. We know how the DCC are about their traditions and how special and unique everything they do is. We know they'd hate the idea of following in other teams' footsteps in any way. One thing they would definitely have to modify is their choreography. The women look silly enough doing "sexy hips." A man would look ridiculous. And I really do not want to contemplate any man doing jump splits. I know they wouldn't just slam down on the twig and berries, but just the thought of it makes me cringe. Yes, but most other teams don’t have both a co ed and an all female team. And I’m sorry but what kind of benefits and extra compensation do the girls have? The chance to participate in the calendar shoot? They won’t have a co-ed calendar so that goes. “Perks” like free blow outs, lash extensions etc? Again, those are women only and I don’t see them as perks. 13 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: God help us all... 5 hours ago, Lmr29 said: I figured Victoria’s problem. It’s her hair. She doesn’t know what to do with it and flops everywhere. Yes it’s gorgeous but she needs to cut it so it doesn’t affect her dancing Yes, the hair is her one and only problem. 1 7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203135
go4luca April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jennv said: The comments on her IG though! All telling her how fantastic she is. I'm over here wondering who these people are and if they are watching the same video I am. All I see is a flailing mess of arms and hair I'm convinced it's the mushrooms they all must be smoking. 1 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203151
scorpio1031 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jennv said: The comments on her IG though! All telling her how fantastic she is. I'm over here wondering who these people are and if they are watching the same video I am. All I see is a flailing mess of arms and hair 52 minutes ago, go4luca said: I'm convinced it's the mushrooms they all must be smoking. Oh yes, they have told her Scott was mean to her last year, our board is mean to her, she should be excused for bad behavior cause of her age, on and on. That's not helping her. The girl needs honesty. She needs constructive criticism. If no one who supposedly gives a damn about her will do it, then others will. Edited April 11, 2019 by scorpio1031 clarity 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203326
Tuxcat April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 VK really is "A beautiful storm" or whatever they said. I'm glad she's having fun. She does have some appeal and draws attention. But compared to the ladies who demonstrated controlled finesse - VK is a wild, wild horse. Everything is just too big. Her stance is way too wide. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203350
LaurenBrook April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tuxcat said: VK really is "A beautiful storm" or whatever they said. I'm glad she's having fun. She does have some appeal and draws attention. But compared to the ladies who demonstrated controlled finesse - VK is a wild, wild horse. Everything is just too big. Her stance is way too wide. i wish victoria would do a year or two on another squad, get some experience and maturity before trying out for DCC again. 1 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203383
go4luca April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 (edited) deleted Edited April 11, 2019 by go4luca Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203389
pizzaandcatsrlife April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 I stand by Gina looking terrible. She can’t be more than 100lbs and that’s not her natural body. Being skeletal ages a person, too. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203413
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, LaurenBrook said: i wish victoria would do a year or two on another squad, get some experience and maturity before trying out for DCC again. She should have taken a page from Dayton because in my opinion, I think Dayton got the best deal. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203435
SmpIsimon April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 The problem with Victoria is that she has literally been told her entire life how pretty she is and what an amazing dancer she is. If you're told that for as long as she has been told that, you just believe it. She is average--at best--in both categories, but she and Tina will never be able to see that. 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203488
sleepyjean April 11, 2019 Author Share April 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dreamcatcher said: Yes, but most other teams don’t have both a co ed and an all female team. And I’m sorry but what kind of benefits and extra compensation do the girls have? The chance to participate in the calendar shoot? They won’t have a co-ed calendar so that goes. “Perks” like free blow outs, lash extensions etc? Again, those are women only and I don’t see them as perks. No, I'm talking about money. Paid modeling opportunities. Better and more frequent appearances, which both pay more and offer valuable intangible benefits for those who know how to take advantage of networking opportunities and know that "DCC" on your resume pays much greater dividends for future opportunities than "DC R&B." I also suspect the DCC put in a lot more hours than the R&B so overall they make more money that way as well. The R&B aren't rehearsing 5 nights a week all season long, plus occasional Saturday practice and show group rehearsal. I do see the calendar trip as an amazing perk, and they very well could take the guys with them. The Baltimore Ravens include their guys on the calendar trip, even though the guys aren't in the calendar. Edited April 11, 2019 by sleepyjean 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203513
bigskygirl April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sleepyjean said: No, I'm talking about money. Paid modeling opportunities. Better and more frequent appearances, which both pay more and offer valuable intangible benefits for those who know how to take advantage of networking opportunities and know that "DCC" on your resume pays much greater dividends for future opportunities than "DC R&B." I do see the calendar trip as an amazing perk, and they very well could take the guys with them. The Baltimore Ravens include their guys on the calendar trip, even though the guys aren't in the calendar. You mean like the modeling opportunities Kalyssa got. 12 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said: The problem with Victoria is that she has literally been told her entire life how pretty she is and what an amazing dancer she is. If you're told that for as long as she has been told that, you just believe it. She is average--at best--in both categories, but she and Tina will never be able to see that. Helicopter mother trying to live her former DCC glory years through her daughter. Edited April 11, 2019 by bigskygirl Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203533
kcrabtree06 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, bigskygirl said: She should have taken a page from Dayton because in my opinion, I think Dayton got the best deal. Seriously tho, looking back NOT making DCC was probably one of the best things that could have happened to Dayton. Girl doesn’t make the team and then gets a job traveling the world on a cruise? Sign me up. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203549
sleepyjean April 11, 2019 Author Share April 11, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, bigskygirl said: You mean like the modeling opportunities Kalyssa got. No. I'm referring to the modeling agency that is part of the DCC organization. These are opportunities available while a DCC is an active member of the team. Edited April 11, 2019 by sleepyjean 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203580
amandaellen87 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 Are there any rookies not coming back? With the ladies posting the swim fittings it's hard to remember whose all posted about it. Alanna hasn't posted or I missed it. Side note some of these ladies need to eat a sandwich. A healthy body is more beautiful than a skinny one. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203744
Txmomof2 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, amandaellen87 said: Are there any rookies not coming back? With the ladies posting the swim fittings it's hard to remember whose all posted about it. Alanna hasn't posted or I missed it. Side note some of these ladies need to eat a sandwich. A healthy body is more beautiful than a skinny one. All rookies are returning, the only ones who retired were Kashara, Lacey, Kelli, Yuko, Jessika, Tasha and Kahylan. There weren't very many pictures of Maddie, Madeline, Alanna, Jalyn and Amber. You could catch them in the background or here or there but that is it. Also no Lauren - which could mean she opted out again this year. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203760
Holly85 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Txmomof2 said: All rookies are returning, the only ones who retired were Kashara, Lacey, Kelli, Yuko, Jessika, Tasha and Kahylan. There weren't very many pictures of Maddie, Madeline, Alanna, Jalyn and Amber. You could catch them in the background or here or there but that is it. Also no Lauren - which could mean she opted out again this year. I heard lauren is going but she isn’t shooting Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203774
dreamcatcher April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, sleepyjean said: No. I'm referring to the modeling agency that is part of the DCC organization. These are opportunities available while a DCC is an active member of the team. While I agree in principle, a male dcc would never get the same gigs. And I don’t think it’s being unfair to the guys at all. Girls get gigs like advertising beauty treatments and detox teas because that’s the only thing that matters *obviously* to young women. Or they get to do catalogues and mostly dance attire. I don’t think we will soon see that many males in cheerleading and this is again because for a long time now, women are delegated to cheering men playing sports. I don’t think this is going to change and I still don’t think this is being unfair to men. If they try to get a dancing gig they will be more respected and make more money than being a male dcc would ever get them. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203809
Muckypup61 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Tootie said: For comparison.... YES! I no nothing about dance, but this girl is so precise, so controlled! She snaps and pops! She's a joy to watch! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203897
Muckypup61 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 4 hours ago, SmpIsimon said: I bet you that Christina sought assurances from Kelli that her boob job wouldn't impact the contractual requirement that she maintain her audition weight given that those honkers would add a few pounds. I tell my husband fake boobs always look like someone just licked' em and sticked 'em. They just sit there on the chest; no softness, no slight droop. You can tell they're fake. 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5203909
Corky10 April 11, 2019 Share April 11, 2019 4 hours ago, LaurenBrook said: i wish victoria would do a year or two on another squad, get some experience and maturity before trying out for DCC again. Why would you want to punish another squad like that 😉 16 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/90050-2019-dcc-audition-speculation/page/26/#findComment-5204092
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