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Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None


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9 minutes ago, Mkay said:

I love riding dirt bikes. I haven’t done it in yrs but I miss it on pretty days.  

I never rode but spent many a day supervising a wild and crazy group of boys tearing around the farm on their bikes! I also learned to have a stock of spark plugs for the makes of bikes they were riding at the ready. There's nothing worse than a whiny kid having a pity party because his bike won't start while everyone else is tearing around. Or, driving to every auto parts store looking for the right plugs.

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6 minutes ago, lovesnark said:

I never rode but spent many a day supervising a wild and crazy group of boys tearing around the farm on their bikes! I also learned to have a stock of spark plugs for the makes of bikes they were riding at the ready. There's nothing worse than a whiny kid having a pity party because his bike won't start while everyone else is tearing around. Or, driving to every auto parts store looking for the right plugs.

Hahaha I do remember spark plugs going out fairly often. Wow. Good memories. 

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New article on Radar - she was supposed to film on Sunday with Jace but brought David along.  This of course is after the gun incident on Thursday.

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/05/jenelle-evans-sabotages-teen-mom-2-filming-gun-incident-brings-fired-husband-david-eason-set/

Some quotes: “The president of Viacom was told about Jenelle and the gun. There have been non-stop meetings about her future with the show with the highest execs in the company.  Jenelle’s a huge liability right now. Everyone is afraid that she always has a gun and that someone is going to get shot.”

As for what happened Sunday: 

“She showed up with David in the car, which is not allowed. The security guard told everyone to stay back because they were afraid he might have had a gun.”

“Jenelle knows there can’t be any filming when David is around. But she ignored that completely and brought David anyway. So, the security guard stood there, and the producers told Jenelle that they weren’t going to film with her. She threw a fit and left.”

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3 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

 

So...the thing that gives me pause here is....the South (I say this as a Southerner and a gun owner).

Plenty of people carry around weapons in their cars here (as it's seen as an extension of their home in these open carry states, it's legal), so I kind of wonder if she would indeed be charged with endangering the children just because of the gun (the other stuff- reckless driving, etc, I could see) while also having their kids in the car with them.  I think a ton of people would have a fit if some girl from reality TV (who they don't understand is a horrible person in general because they don't watch the show) got in trouble for having a gun and a child in her car....because lots of parents in the South do that every single day.  It would likely ignite a huge blow back from the pro-gun side if she got in trouble for that.

I can totally see her being charged for reckless endangerment of a child for chasing the guy, crashing her car into his property, and brandishing/threatening with the gun, but just having the gun in the car at the same time as a kid is in the car is totally not going to fly as a reason to charge her with reckless endangerment of a child in a state like North Carolina (or anywhere in the South). 

They won't touch that with a ten foot pole, because DAs like getting re-elected (and may one day want to run for a bigger office, for which the NRA would give them a "rating" that voters can look at to see their records on gun rights) and not want to draw too much negative attention to themselves or the local government/court system.  

I find people driving in their cars with guns AND children to be so disturbing. How can you properly secure the gun in the car?

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11 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I find people driving in their cars with guns AND children to be so disturbing. How can you properly secure the gun in the car?

I think a locked glove compartment, usually - though the concern is usually not so much about how to keep it from the children in the front seat!! as how to keep it from being stolen if you leave it in the car when you get where you're going.  If you guys remember the "drifter" murders in San Francisco & Marin a couple of years ago - the three meth users who committed those stole the gun from an unlocked car in SF. I think it might have even been a law enforcement agent's gun (not local PD, something else). 

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30 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I find people driving in their cars with guns AND children to be so disturbing. How can you properly secure the gun in the car?

My 12 yr old knows not to touch it. My husband was a reserve cop for many yrs.  She’s known about gun safety since she was able to understand. But when I’m driving it’s in my drivers side door. Not within her reach.  I’m talking it MAY travel with me outside my home 3 times a yr. IF at all.  I live in a low crime area.  But if I travel to Dallas alone or just me and my daughter, I like to have a little bit of security. I’m not packing it 24/7 like Jenelle probably does.  

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On 4/30/2018 at 12:36 PM, Mkay said:

She’s nastier then the bacteria. Even bacteria doesn’t want anything to do with her.

On 4/30/2018 at 7:34 PM, druzy said:

I converted the CFS Report to images to make it easier to read this lunatic's rampage.

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“Fixing to get shot” jumped out at me as my favorite part. She definitely was fixing to get herself shot yet she probably thinks she was the badass in this situation.    

23 hours ago, Kazu said:

I'm going to hell, but how I wish those people had pulled out their own gun and let her have it. The way David and Jenelle have no qualms about protecting their property, I wish these people had "stood their ground".

I have to stop just short of wishing she had gotten shot, especially in front of Jace and Kaiser, but it would’ve been some sweet irony considering...

22 hours ago, geauxaway said:

Yes to the first 3.  But didn’t Dustin fire her ass???  Which makes it even better because good luck, pal!  Better be wishing on your lucky court star.

I don’t think she’s merely wishing on a lucky court star, considering all she’s gotten away with, I think she’s literally blowing Satan at this point. (Also, I love your username.)

10 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

I will be most interested in what MTV does. They fired Farrah over porn, David for a twitter rant. If they don't fire her, they are total assholes. They need to fire her and keep Barb  so we  can  get updates. 

They’re already total assholes either way, imo. But, yeah, bitch needs to go and I’d love them to keep Barb on.

10 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

Barb needs to never let Jace in a car with her. She probably went nuts when Jace reported back.

Ugh, just imagine how scared Jace was and how psychotic Jenelle was acting. I feel it’s so much worse they witnessed all this, let alone the danger their “mom” put them in to prove some kind of “I’m a badass” point. She can no longer claim to have been in fear or the victim if she was the one following the other vehicle..let alone on to their property...which she then damaged.

9 hours ago, MissChris said:

I don't really care of Jenelle ends up in jail or not, I just really want all of those kids out of her house for good. 

Why do we have to choose? We deserve both! Jenelle deserves both. The universe needs to deliver consequences this time after all she’s gotten away with!

9 hours ago, NannyBails said:

It also makes me wonder ... what was the film crew thinking at the time this all went down?  They could potentially have filmed a murder or two.

Or been an accidentally casualty. If I were her crew I’d refuse to continue filming her. If anything they definitely deserve higher “hazard pay” at this point.

1 hour ago, Mkay said:

What’s the point of non stop meetings. It should be real simple. Get rid of her! 

 

This! It’s pissing me off, it shouldn’t even be a question! She’s 100% liability. 

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12 minutes ago, Rebecca said:

Ugh, just imagine how scared Jace was and how psychotic Jenelle was acting. I feel it’s so much worse they witnessed all this, let alone the danger their “mom” put them in to prove some kind of “I’m a badass” point.

The sad thing is, I think the kids are kind of used to this - it doesn't seem as abnormal to them as it should, because in their experience, this IS normal.

6 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I have no issue with legal, responsible gun ownership, but I can also completely understand why the MTV crew would feel uncomfortable filming while Jenelle is carrying a weapon. She's a violent person married to a violent man and they both have hairtrigger tempers. 

They need to fire Jenelle and continue to film Barb in her place. Barb has always been Jace's real mother anyways and she's a fan favorite, so I don't think the viewers would mind.

Exactly. It's not like they're afraid to go to anybody else's house - Jeremy obviously has guns, and I'm sure he's not the only one.   But no one is concerned that he's going to point one at anybody. (I imagine they might ask for a little assurance about how they're stored in case kids get into them and accidentally shoot something off, but I'm sure that's been addressed to everybody's satisfaction). 

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9 minutes ago, akr said:

The sad thing is, I think the kids are kind of used to this - it doesn't seem as abnormal to them as it should, because in their experience, this IS normal.

Exactly. It's not like they're afraid to go to anybody else's house - Jeremy obviously has guns, and I'm sure he's not the only one.   But no one is concerned that he's going to point one at them. (I imagine they might ask for a little assurance about how they're stored in cases kids get into them and accidentally shoot something off, but I'm sure that's been handled to everybody's satisfaction). 

 

Cory's daughter is named after a gun manufacturer and Cole deer hunts, so I definitely think Jenelle isn't the only one who owns weapons, however it's just like you said: the crew isn't likely to get shot in the middle of a domestic dispute at Chelsea's house. Which brings me to another question: is Jenelle the only one who requires security present while filming? I don't recall that ever being brought up with the other girls and their film crews.

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Also, events kept changing on them. First they were dealing with the road rage situation - and probably waiting for what the state might do with the situation - and then she shows up on Sunday with David. I can't imagine they'd have her back for another year, but the reunion, if she's invited at all, will now be complicated by the possibility that she won't be allowed to leave the state while charges are pending; and they may want to be laying down some rules for everyone to go along with causes of action against her. After Thursday, I imagine one option was mandatory rehab (which would have to be coordinated with any criminal action); after Sunday, I think it's done and it's just in the details now. They've already got episodes coming out next week and may need to be thinking about how they're going to re-edit the whole season, and even whether they're going to show it at all. 

It must be enormously tempting to sue her for all the costs she's imposing on everybody (never mind the danger) - but it may be best to threaten that and settle with her being fired and just paid the base rate for episodes that actually air. 

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I wonder if she gets paid per episode that she appears in that airs, not just those that are filmed. I understand that’s the case with some similar show. If yes, that means that showing up with David in tow just cost her money. 

I  don’t think even Jenelle’s trifecta of classy court heels, hair feathers and ace lawyer Dustin can get her out of this latest mess. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person!

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On 4/30/2018 at 1:53 PM, LegallyRed2 said:

In a little more than 3 years, Jace is going to be able to dictate when and where he goes as far as custody is concerned as you are able to plea to the courts when you are 12 and they will take your feelings into consideration with regards to mandated visits with his mother. David is walking a fine line posting shit like this. Everything I've seen of him makes it clear he is protective of his meme and has no connection to David whatsoever, if David is even around by then as it's completely possible Jenelle would've fallen on top of another penis by that time working on #4...Both of them better be prepared for Jace, the independent thinker because it would not be outside the realm of possibility that he completely shuts these fuckers out of his life for good.

My son is 10 and already chooses not to go to his dad's during visitation. I checked with my lawyer and I don't have to make him go so I don't.

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Jenelle's behavior (not for the first time) reminded me of this passage from "The Godfather."

It's Don Corleone speaking of Luca Brasi.

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There are people in this world who go about demanding to be killed. You must have noticed them. They quarrel in gambling games. They jump out of their automobiles in a rage. They humiliate and bully people whose capabilities they do not know. These are people who wander through the world shouting, "kill me". And there's always someone ready to oblige to them.

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My fear is that Jenelle or David will go after Barb when Jenelle loses her "job" and all her endorsements. After all, everything is Barb's fault.

I am scared for her.

33 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Jenelle's behavior (not for the first time) reminded me of this passage from "The Godfather."

It's Don Corleone speaking of Luca Brasi.

I am always down for a Godfather quote.?

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I have never stated something this way, and I kinda hate myself for it, but it’s the only way to convey my feelings...

?GET ? RID ?OF ? HER?

What could MTV possibly be waiting for? Someone to actually be hurt... because I fear that is not very far down the road, I just hope it isn’t one of the kids. Instead of meetings on meetings on meetings like @Mkay said just cut ties, surely she has breached her contract enough at this point for MTV to be covered. In no way do I wish for anyone to be hurt but I can’t say I’ll feel too terribly bad if someone from mtv is, they are the ones who have let this whole situation spiral out of control and enabled her, unfortunately the poor production assts or bottom of the totem pole people are the most likely to be in danger while the higher ups enable the crazy.

Someone on reddit mentioned they think Jenelle might be angling to get fired so that she can do a different show with David, but I can’t imagine anyone wanting to work with her. What did she think she would accomplish by bringing David? I think it’s been said that they get paid per episode they are on, so idk if she thought mtv would film a showdown with David and he’d get paid even though he’s fired. 

This is just beyond trainwreck fascination, it’s not even entertaining to watch it implode because all I can think about is the poor children stuck in this mess.

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1 hour ago, akr said:

The sad thing is, I think the kids are kind of used to this - it doesn't seem as abnormal to them as it should, because in their experience, this IS normal.

 

That’s specifically why I only mentioned Jace being scared. I imagine Kaiser is used to it, but Jace spends most of his time with Barbara, luckily for him. He doesn’t witness the psychotic disaster nearly as much as Kaiser/Maryssa/Ensley. Ugh, imagine what these kids have seen. She does this when she knows she’s being filmed!

12 minutes ago, leighroda said:

I have never stated something this way, and I kinda hate myself for it, but it’s the only way to convey my feelings...

?GET ? RID ?OF ? HER?

What could MTV possibly be waiting for? Someone to actually be hurt... because I fear that is not very far down the road, I just hope it isn’t one of the kids. Instead of meetings on meetings on meetings like @Mkay said just cut ties, surely she has breached her contract enough at this point for MTV to be covered. In no way do I wish for anyone to be hurt but I can’t say I’ll feel too terribly bad if someone from mtv is, they are the ones who have let this whole situation spiral out of control and enabled her, unfortunately the poor production assts or bottom of the totem pole people are the most likely to be in danger while the higher ups enable the crazy.

Someone on reddit mentioned they think Jenelle might be angling to get fired so that she can do a different show with David, but I can’t imagine anyone wanting to work with her. What did she think she would accomplish by bringing David? I think it’s been said that they get paid per episode they are on, so idk if she thought mtv would film a showdown with David and he’d get paid even though he’s fired. 

This is just beyond trainwreck fascination, it’s not even entertaining to watch it implode because all I can think about is the poor children stuck in this mess.

Actually, and disgustingly, that Marriage Bootcamp show has apparently been trying to get David and Jenelle  on. I heard they normally pay $50,000 for the season but they’ve increased twice for her so far. I believe it because so much of these idiots have gone on it already so they love TM people. They’re getting pure insanity with Amber and they itching for what David and Jenelle could bring. It still can’t compare to her TM2 salary but it pisses me off that she has other prospects. I don’t see how MTV would stop her from doing it though, because half the TM/2  casts have been on that show and its spinoff so far. I pledge not to watch MBC if they ever go on.

I want so badly for her to be fired and never (dis)grace our tv screens again.

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13 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Forum Legal Eagle Buddies,

What could or did happen here with Jenelle? Was she arrested? Will she be? Will the man have to press charges? Will the county? Will he have to sue in civil court? 

I'm wondering since we haven't seen mugshot #19 (or whatever # she's on) yet (and because I am not a law professional, lawyer, paralegal, etc and have no clue.).

Okay. So, I’m a criminal defense attorney in Chicago. Here, if the police are going to arrest you after an incident like this, they would have arrested her at the time. If they had not, there would be no investigation by detectives/interviewing  witnesses later. The matter would just be finished, because it’s not a murder, home invasion, etc. 

That said, the Chicago police have WAY more important stuff to deal with than a road rage incident. It’s entirely possible that in a smaller town, the police would wait to arrest a person until after more investigation. 

But, I’m not at all hopeful that she’ll be arrested. :(. 

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6 hours ago, SimonSeymour said:

Okay. So, I’m a criminal defense attorney in Chicago. Here, if the police are going to arrest you after an incident like this, they would have arrested her at the time. If they had not, there would be no investigation by detectives/interviewing  witnesses later. The matter would just be finished, because it’s not a murder, home invasion, etc. 

That said, the Chicago police have WAY more important stuff to deal with than a road rage incident. It’s entirely possible that in a smaller town, the police would wait to arrest a person until after more investigation. 

But, I’m not at all hopeful that she’ll be arrested. :(. 

Thanks, SimonSeymour.  I always enjoy when we can get professional knowledge!

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8 hours ago, Kazu said:

My fear is that Jenelle or David will go after Barb when Jenelle loses her "job" and all her endorsements. After all, everything is Barb's fault.

I am scared for her.

I am always down for a Godfather quote.?

I am scared for Barb too especially if she refuses to let Jace go to the Land for visitation. If she hasn't already, Barb should  put security cameras outside  of her house. One can't be too cautious when you have to deal with two gun-toting idiots who hate your guts.

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3 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Kidnappers always tailgate then cut off another car in hopes the potential victim will decide to follow them home to destroy their property & threaten them with a gun. It's even better if the victim is z-list reality star and has GoPros filiming in her car. That's the perfect plan for kidnapping.  /s

How is there not already a movie with this exact plot? I’m thinking it would be perfect for Lifetime. I want Taryn Manning to star (no one does trashy like her).

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14 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

I find people driving in their cars with guns AND children to be so disturbing. How can you properly secure the gun in the car?

Biometric gun case. 

 

1 hour ago, MargeGunderson said:

Good god, why would anyone try to kidnap Jenelle? In the immortal words of Mama Dawn, that don’t make no sense. 

If they did, it would only take 2 seconds to realize they want to give her back. 

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The trouble with the theory that they would arrest her at the scene or not at all is that it appears she wasn't at the scene anymore when the cops got there.  Looks like she was there about 6 or 7 minutes and then "FEMALE LEFT TWDS WLM" (dispatcher rept at 17:39:49); complainant wanted her "stopped and charged"; officers advised that Durango likely has damage.   

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