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iwasish
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I just wish that some day,  when a guy suggests that a woman get breast implants because he wants a woman with large(r) breasts, that she respond that she’d like a man with a bigger dick. 

Chalby
Chalby

As soon as I was faced with some guy giving a sly giggle after stating he gave his fiancee money to get breast implants, I was done. I don't care if it was her idea, this just smacks of a pig ensuring

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Yeah, she kinda hit the green card jackpot with Jonathan.  He is attractive, he appears kinda successfully, he seems willing to do just about anything to make her happy and he buys her whatever she wa

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snarkish

On 11/28/2018 at 6:55 PM, GrannySmith said:

It’s on Facebook, 90 Day Fiancé Savage Edition. Ask, and someone will message you the video. Warning, it can’t be unseen. 

They sent a screenshot, but didn't have the video. That was enough for me. #shrivelednuts #maybehehadachill #notpackingmuch

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guilfoyleatpp

guilfoyleatpp

On 11/29/2018 at 8:02 AM, Drogo said:

Tiny peesh? 

Several people on reddit said "roll of quarters." I saw it and was surprised at the aptness.

Also the berries on his twig and berries were pretty small. I mean, I've never been a size queen or anything, but a girl notices these things...

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iwasish

iwasish

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I really don’t get Fernanda’s need to be embraced by Jon’s family. Aren’t they going to live in NC? How often will they even see his mom? And once they’re married, she can visit her own mom easily,  

Then she says tonight that she’s glad the mom is opening up to her but she doesn’t want to be in the middle of mom and Jon’s issues. 

 

Re: Peckergate

I haven’t been lucky enough to see it but, maybe he’s a grower not a shower? Or...........maybe they’d been swimming ?

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gonecrackers

gonecrackers

12 hours ago, iwasish said:

I really don’t get Fernanda’s need to be embraced by Jon’s family. Aren’t they going to live in NC? How often will they even see his mom? And once they’re married, she can visit her own mom easily,  

Then she says tonight that she’s glad the mom is opening up to her but she doesn’t want to be in the middle of mom and Jon’s issues. 

 

Re: Peckergate

I haven’t been lucky enough to see it but, maybe he’s a grower not a shower? Or...........maybe they’d been swimming ?

Getting his dick on SM probably isn't the way to his mom's heart.  (And I'm not buying it was an 'accident').

Didn't see the video, but apparently she said "What is that?" - was she mocking her fiance, & on camera?  What if he had posted a pre-boob job video showing her small tits & said "What are those?"

They're both assholes.

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iwasish

iwasish

12 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

Getting his dick on SM probably isn't the way to his mom's heart.  (And I'm not buying it was an 'accident').

Didn't see the video, but apparently she said "What is that?" - was she mocking her fiance, & on camera?  What if he had posted a pre-boob job video showing her small tits & said "What are those?"

They're both assholes.

I’m over her tears every time she feels homesick and her rages when she feels “disrespected”. She loves being the center of attention and it’s a good thing Jon seems to make a decent salary cause she likes nice clothing and taking care of herself, hair and makeup. Jon is enjoying having a hot young thing on his arm but as immature as he is, he’s light years ahead of her in maturity. I give it 5 years if they actually get hitched. 

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gonecrackers

gonecrackers

51 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Jon is enjoying having a hot young thing on his arm but as immature as he is, he’s light years ahead of her in maturity.

IMHO, I feel "light years" is too generous. He's another man-boy; they're probably well suited, unfortunately (or fortunately for others who might end up with either).

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greekmom

greekmom

Saw it when it was originally posted on the FB group before it was shut down.

Can't say it's something to brag about.  Like another poster suggested, the "berries" seem a bit off", I will add that he looks like he has a single berry instead of a pair.

What I am shocked is that Jon hasn't mentioned that he lost his realtor job over this.  Usually when stuff like that comes out (accident or not), there is trouble at work.

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gonecrackers

gonecrackers

2 hours ago, greekmom said:

What I am shocked is that Jon hasn't mentioned that he lost his realtor job over this.  Usually when stuff like that comes out (accident or not), there is trouble at work.

Maybe he's a self employed realtor?

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Teri313

Teri313

On ‎12‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 12:52 PM, gonecrackers said:

Getting his dick on SM probably isn't the way to his mom's heart.  (And I'm not buying it was an 'accident').

Didn't see the video, but apparently she said "What is that?" - was she mocking her fiance, & on camera?  What if he had posted a pre-boob job video showing her small tits & said "What are those?"

They're both assholes.

Kind of like how she keeps making fun of his big nose. I think you're right - I don't think she'd like it if the insults were reversed. She's a brat.

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Horrified

Horrified

On 12/1/2018 at 10:18 AM, iwasish said:

Jon seems to make a decent salary

And owes the IRS $26K

According to the Washington Post Radar Online:  The clerk of court for Robeson County in North Carolina exclusively confirmed to Radar that Rivera was slapped with a federal tax lien in the amount of $26,196.30 on September 6, 2018.

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CSS.MD

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On 02/12/2018 at 5:08 AM, lucy711 said:

Oh I doubt instagram wiener controversy is going to help Jonathan's career.  I mean, I don't need to see my realator's penis!

 

Maybe he’s trying to switch careers as a porn star after this?

Just kidding.

Because honestly, would anyone who wants to be taken seriously in their careers risk being on a show like this?

I feel like the kind of people who are willing to be on a show like this are people who have nothing to lose (most of the foreign fiancé[e]s have nothing to lose).

Even an actor/actress who wants to Ben seriously wouldn’t do this.

Like if I wanted to be a lawyer in America (and I have Indonesian friends who went to American law school and took the bar exam, and practice in NYC) would I want to be on this show at the risk of making a fool of myself? I mean what would the bar association think?

This is national TV. And it’s all uploaded on TLC’s YouTube. All your future employers can find it.

AND accessible internationally (which would matter for the foreign fiancé[e]s too if they care anything about not maintaining a reputation).

It’s fun AF to watch 🍿 but the thought of being on a show like this scares teh sh*t out of me...

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Gobi

Gobi

14 minutes ago, Rdh1314 said:

Fernando had stringy, ropey,  saliva connected to her upper and lower lips during her initial tantrum/rage at Jon, and it totally grossed me out.🤢

That's not the worst thing she's had in her mouth.

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Drew Pierce

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The consistent theme of this show is most of the Guys and their families literally having no concept of what the girls are giving up and sacrificing to be in the US.  And Jonathan's mother is the dirt worst at that.  unfortunately i think it has a lot to do with them seeing these Latina girls as animals or statistics instead of fully functioned people and their view of foreigners is people huddling around huts hating Americans and dreaming about tricking their way in.  But Mr. Self-Centered Jonathan going on how unfair Fernada was for not letting him have a drink for 45 minutes after working 14 hours.  That's the entire issue.  He wasn't gone for 45 minutes, he was gone for almost 15 HOURS.  She is there literally alone like solitary confinement.  She's not a toy you can put in the closet and flip the switch when you get back home.  his family disrespects and hates her, his friends are all racist and she don't know her way around Chicago and isn't about to start driving around exploring and finding new friends, she has 90 friggin days to be with him and get married and he's stressed out about work?  well relieve your stress with your fiance not some Playmobil looking judgemental schmuck!    I say no foul on her part for being mad at him, and the fact that he couldn't grasp why is a big issue.

That all being said i recall in older episodes his friends and family being more shocked in him wanting to get married to anyone.  Sounds like he's used to going on constantly, like multiple days a week and dating all sorts of girls, poker with the guys, strip clubs with the guys, grinding with random girls even if you're not 100% interested, etc, etc.  so i also wouldn't expect him to just change overnight.  But there needs to be a lot more understanding, particularly of people putting themselves in the shoes of the girls who are here now.  Imagine if one of you traveled to Saudi Arabia or somewhere, a complete no-man land to you other than from movies, and your one lifeline, the person you are there for, is sitting there grinding with someone else, reminding you how replaceable and expendable you are legally and emotionally.  Yeah she's a hothead but I can't blame her under the circumstances.  HIs mother just acts like Fernanda is some homeless street hooker back home and can't grasp how this girl's mother lovers her daughter more than anything and cannot see her own daughter's wedding because she's marrying an American.  These American families, my God...

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NannyBails

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15 minutes ago, Drew Pierce said:

The consistent theme of this show is most of the Guys and their families literally having no concept of what the girls are giving up and sacrificing to be in the US.  And Jonathan's mother is the dirt worst at that.  unfortunately i think it has a lot to do with them seeing these Latina girls as animals or statistics instead of fully functioned people and their view of foreigners is people huddling around huts hating Americans and dreaming about tricking their way in.  But Mr. Self-Centered Jonathan going on how unfair Fernada was for not letting him have a drink for 45 minutes after working 14 hours.  That's the entire issue.  He wasn't gone for 45 minutes, he was gone for almost 15 HOURS.  She is there literally alone like solitary confinement.  She's not a toy you can put in the closet and flip the switch when you get back home.  his family disrespects and hates her, his friends are all racist and she don't know her way around Chicago and isn't about to start driving around exploring and finding new friends, she has 90 friggin days to be with him and get married and he's stressed out about work?  well relieve your stress with your fiance not some Playmobil looking judgemental schmuck!    I say no foul on her part for being mad at him, and the fact that he couldn't grasp why is a big issue.

That all being said i recall in older episodes his friends and family being more shocked in him wanting to get married to anyone.  Sounds like he's used to going on constantly, like multiple days a week and dating all sorts of girls, poker with the guys, strip clubs with the guys, grinding with random girls even if you're not 100% interested, etc, etc.  so i also wouldn't expect him to just change overnight.  But there needs to be a lot more understanding, particularly of people putting themselves in the shoes of the girls who are here now.  Imagine if one of you traveled to Saudi Arabia or somewhere, a complete no-man land to you other than from movies, and your one lifeline, the person you are there for, is sitting there grinding with someone else, reminding you how replaceable and expendable you are legally and emotionally.  Yeah she's a hothead but I can't blame her under the circumstances.  HIs mother just acts like Fernanda is some homeless street hooker back home and can't grasp how this girl's mother lovers her daughter more than anything and cannot see her own daughter's wedding because she's marrying an American.  These American families, my God...

I agree with the general sentiment of families and friends AND the fiances themselves not understanding how isolating it is to leave one's country, family, and friends and to be so dependent on one person.  However, Jon and Fernanda live in Lumberton, NC, not Chicago.   If they were living in Chicago rather than just visiting Jon's family there, Fernanda no doubt would be out and about and making friends.  There's easy-to-access public transportation, the city has a lot of diversity so she'd be more comfortable, and it's a fun place to be.   It would be so much easier for her to meet folks her age and make friends!

On another topic, has it been said what happened between Jon and his mother to cause the estrangement?   

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iwasish

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5 hours ago, NannyBails said:

I agree with the general sentiment of families and friends AND the fiances themselves not understanding how isolating it is to leave one's country, family, and friends and to be so dependent on one person.  However, Jon and Fernanda live in Lumberton, NC, not Chicago.   If they were living in Chicago rather than just visiting Jon's family there, Fernanda no doubt would be out and about and making friends.  There's easy-to-access public transportation, the city has a lot of diversity so she'd be more comfortable, and it's a fun place to be.   It would be so much easier for her to meet folks her age and make friends!

On another topic, has it been said what happened between Jon and his mother to cause the estrangement?   

I don’t see Fernanda as being independent at all. Even in Chicago I don’t think she’d go out on her own and make friends and see things. She expects Jonathan to be with her when he’s not at work. If his normal work day is 14ish hours a day WITHOUT stopping for drinks after, she better find a way to fill those hours. One more hour isn’t going to change anything that much. And calling and texting constantly isn’t going to get her point across. 

I don’t think Jonathan is any prize. He lives having the adoring hot girl friend in his arm to impress others. IMO Dernanda is looking for a daddy replacement. When they visited her father she was hanging all over him just like she does  with Jonathan ( I don’t mean in a sleazy inappropriate way). She commented that she hadn’t seen dad in several years, he’s a young good looking dad (he looks not much older than Jon) and I’ll bet he’s dating a much younger woman. 

Fernanda needs to grow up and gain some perspective about life. Jon needs to get away from the clubbing and drinking weekends and resolve his issues with mom, whatever they are. Keep in touch with Fernanda and maybe in 4/5 years they’ll have a better chance. 

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NannyBails

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I think I’m behind some episodes or slept through when Fernanda saw her dad.  I based my thought of her going out without Jon in Chicago on what Jon said when they were fighting about him not coming home.  Jon talked about how Fernanda went out partying with her friends a lot.  I figured once she made friends in the US, she’d go out with them, too.

 

1 hour ago, iwasish said:

 

Fernanda needs to grow up and gain some perspective about life. Jon needs to get away from the clubbing and drinking weekends and resolve his issues with mom, whatever they are. Keep in touch with Fernanda and maybe in 4/5 years they’ll have a better chance. 

I totally agree with this.

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Honey

Honey

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I can see both sides of the fight in the previews.  If you're home alone all day, can't work, no friends, you really look forward to your fiancee coming home.  However, if you work 14 hours a day, and you want to stop for a quick drink with a friend, you should be able to do that but you need to answer your phone).  She can't threaten to go home every time she is a little pissed off, or one of these times he may just say "go ahead, I've had enough"..

She's very young, and she's insecure right now because she has no life but Jon.  Once she is more established with a life here, she'll feel much better.  She will also be maturing at the same time, so that will help too.  They need to stick it out, for the 2 of them, time will work out most of their issues.

Also, I don't know why everyone hates Jon.  I really like him, and I think he's been extremely patient with her.  I think on the attractiveness meter, he is equal to her. So what if he bought her some boobs, hell I wish someone would buy me some.

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RealReality10

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If he had JUST paid for her boobies, I'd probably roll my eyes and say he is just an archetype.  And to some degree he still is, I don't think a man in his 30s chooses a woman in her teens without some very superficial motives 

Having said that, the fact that he paid for her education speaks in his favor, IMO.  If all you want is a sex toy why pay for her to become better educated?  I don't care what Nikki did, mark was not about to pay for her to get any sort of education.

Also, Jon doesn't really seem to hold the finances over her head (I didn't hear the whole fight).  He has said that he would gladly give her his credit card.  I don't think a guy does that if he wants to really box their fiance in.  If you want to do that you behave like Colt and manipulate greedily hold onto purse strings so the fiancee can't go anywhere without a chaperone.

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configdotsys

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Didn't he say that in addition to all the "Amazon boxes" he buys her, the he bought her a car "that's in the driveway" and that she's talking to her friends for 6 hours a day on the phone/online or something?

The bottom line is that she's too young for him. She's like a dependent child waiting for her parent to get home and gets upset like a 10 year old if she doesn't get exactly what she wants. She couldn't make dinner for them but instead called him constantly and when he got home  immediately began blubbering and grossly salivating like a hyperventilating 10 year old and demanding that he has to be home?  If she is trapped all day, why did she want a car? Why can't she find something to do during the day? Because she is a possessive teenage girl. I blame Jon for all of this. This is what he signed up for. They are at two completely different places in their lives.

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iwasish

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5 hours ago, configdotsys said:

Didn't he say that in addition to all the "Amazon boxes" he buys her, the he bought her a car "that's in the driveway" and that she's talking to her friends for 6 hours a day on the phone/online or something?

The bottom line is that she's too young for him. She's like a dependent child waiting for her parent to get home and gets upset like a 10 year old if she doesn't get exactly what she wants. She couldn't make dinner for them but instead called him constantly and when he got home  immediately began blubbering and grossly salivating like a hyperventilating 10 year old and demanding that he has to be home?  If she is trapped all day, why did she want a car? Why can't she find something to do during the day? Because she is a possessive teenage girl. I blame Jon for all of this. This is what he signed up for. They are at two completely different places in their lives.

100% agree.

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Polliwollidoodle

Polliwollidoodle

Some views she looks really attractive to me- but most of the time, she looks a little distorted -------kind of like the reflection in a door knob.

Close, but no cigar.

I think Jonathan is reasonably nice looking but not as good looking as some of you find.

 I think they are both enamored with the other's appearance- good for them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

She is immature and so is he. I like the comment about them probably being the same age emotionally.

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Rdh1314

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On 12/22/2018 at 6:36 AM, mayvenne said:

Some views she looks really attractive to me- but most of the time, she looks a little distorted -------

Totally agree.  With everything you said, didn't want to quote the whole thing.  :)

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configdotsys

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I think he does love her but I just don't see that that love is on an equal level. I just don't think it can be with that age difference even if Jon is mentally 15. I can't imagine going to work and running home every day so the teenager you have waiting for you won't throw a tantrum or panicking because you are late due to a client and she's waiting... It's embarrassing for him to be out and his phone blowing up. I was embarrassed for him. What is Fernanda's goal in life? She has no higher education (though Jon said when listing what he was paying for that he was paying for her college)? Does anyone see her going to class full time and putting in the work that college entails? I don't. I see her following him around like a puppy dog and growling and barking when he doesn't do everything she wants and expecting him to pay for everything. Is she ready to have a baby? Not at her age. She wants to go clubbing and can't even drink yet. He will be whipped. And get sick of it at some point.

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RealReality10

RealReality10

∆ I think she could attend classes full time.  But then I think she may end up meeting guys her own age, being exposed to kids her own age who are also just starting their lives and figuring out their dreams.  Who still party and want to argue about political systems and beliefs in that way that I think only young people do.

And then I think, at that point, Jon will have a good chance of losing her.

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Elizzikra

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I think he does, too. I find these two genuine and actually don't mind them. I often feel alone in that sentiment. lol

I do too - I just don't find them particularly interesting, especially compared to the other trainwrecks on this season. Ashley and Jay are similarly boring to me.

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Real Eyes

Real Eyes

On 12/30/2018 at 5:19 PM, SunnyBeBe said:

So, I was looking for spoilers before tonight. Just wanted to see if these two did marry. Spoilers okay on this thread, right?

Married but according to his Instagram, now separated. 

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