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After celebrating their 45th anniversary, Roseanne reveals to Dan a bigger problem with her bad knee. Meanwhile, Crystal announces her retirement as a waitress at the casino, and Becky and Darlene compete for the job, which has full-time benefits.

 

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Since we’re nearing the end of this season, I see a lot of potential storylines for the next one: Roseanne’s drug problem, Dan insisting on her getting surgery, no money, Darlene’s new job, Becky taking night classes... 

Tonight’s episode definitely felt like classic Roseanne. I do hope the writers figure out what to do with DJ next season, though. 

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2 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Since we’re nearing the end of this season, I see a lot of potential storylines for the next one: Roseanne’s drug problem, Dan insisting on her getting surgery, no money, Darlene’s new job, Becky taking night classes... 

 

Those were four big steps: Darlene's taking the job, Becky's having a route to an associate's degree in a field she knows, Roseanne's admitting to her pill dependency and Dan's committing to finding a way to make the surgery happen. We're near the end of this year's tunnel, but there's light ahead: daylight, not a headlight.

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While I would have preferred to avoid the addiction storyline in general, the most logical choice was Roseanne being the addict. She has an incredibly addictive personality. Food, alcohol, Bingo, smoking. Adding drugs isn’t a stretch, just one I prefer they didn’t make. I appreciate the realness of it. I appreciate that it comes while we’re in a huge opioid crisis. I just want Roseanne to stick to the funnier stuff. Addiction can be a slippery slope to go down in sitcom-land. 

That said, I enjoyed the episode. I love Darlene and Becky’s bantering. Hearing them argue about adult things is much more interesting than when they were kids. They used to drive me batshit crazy. 

Crystal....looks.... awful. I’m going with either Ed being dead (not a stretch) or her divorcing him after being fed up with his being gone all the time. Either way, it was time to hang up the flapper costume. 

Jackie being a baby bird had me rolling!

I’m with chocolatine, I wanted to see them live it up in the hotel room. Finally, something positive for them, only to be ripped away. I get why hotels do it, but that rule pisses me off too. 

Im sad that we’re nearing the end, but they’ve set up some decent storylines, and hopefully with more episodes to cover more storyline things keep up the trend they’re on. 

Random: going from watching the new episode to Laff to watch reruns is so freaking weird. 

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I think we’ve seen Crystal more this season than in the last four seasons. I wish they would have mentioned her family unless they’re holding off in case they can get Ned Beatty to appear (is he still acting?). 

I agree that the most depressing part of the episode was the card being declined at the hotel. I did laugh about the ham. 

I hope that Becky looks into the college program. 

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I thought this was the first episode of the new series that felt like the old series.  Whether dealing with Roseanne and Dan's enduring love or Becky and Darlene's being sisters this felt like the series of old.  

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8 minutes ago, Stacey1014 said:

I think we’ve seen Crystal more this season than in the last four seasons. I wish they would have mentioned her family unless they’re holding off in case they can get Ned Beatty to appear (is he still acting?). 

I agree that the most depressing part of the episode was the card being declined at the hotel. I did laugh about the ham. 

I hope that Becky looks into the college program. 

I don't know if he is still acting, but he is still very much alive. He's 80 years old, which is younger than I expected. 

I've been (sorta) surprised at the lack of DJ in this series so far. I think even Mary has gotten more screen time than DJ.

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One detail they really got right- in my mid-sized economically depressed hometown in Illinois, the casino is not a bad employer. They'll give most anybody without violent/theft history a shot and the wages are better than retail. When I was severely underemployed, I almost got a second job there.

 

Fishman seemed much more natural this episode.

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Darlene’s Forest Gump line was funny. 

I know Dan was somewhat desperate to find money for Roseanne’s knee operation, but I really hope he doesn’t sell any of those pills since he walked out with a few bottles in his pocket. 

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I know people complained when every episode of Family Ties became a "very special" one. Whether it was a political special episode or about death and so on. It was like they took themselves too seriously. I'm starting to feel this way about Roseanne. I'm hoping next season will have lighter episodes as they don't have to cram as much in a short season. I too, go to Laff station to watch reruns after watching a new one. So many light hearted episodes then.

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I miss The Lobo.

I never knew they checked your card balance before you even checked in to the hotel.  I mean, it makes sense so you don’t get stuff you can’t pay for when you check out, but how can a hotel check for funds if they aren’t charging anything?

I liked at the beginning when it was just the five of them, just like original recipe.  Although, if they were going to include a throwaway line about Jerry in a previous ep, a lack of mention of him when they were having a family dinner stuck out.

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8 minutes ago, mojoween said:

I never knew they checked your card balance before you even checked in to the hotel.  I mean, it makes sense so you don’t get stuff you can’t pay for when you check out, but how can a hotel check for funds if they aren’t charging anything?

It's called an authorization hold. They basically reserve a certain amount on your card account that either gets charged later (at checkout, in the case of a hotel, or when you return a rental car) or expires if it's not used. It's to make sure the card is valid and that there is enough available to cover any charges, especially for things like hotels or car rentals where extra charges might be incurred. (Look up "authorization hold" on wikipedia if you want a better explanation.)

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Why couldn't Becky have decided to apply to community college for herself?

Oh, right, because Saint Darlene needed to be propped yet again.

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1 minute ago, Dee said:

Why couldn't Becky have decided to apply to community college for herself?

Oh, right, because Saint Darlene needed to be propped yet again.

Because Becky lost her brain back when she first dated Mark. Hell, sounds like Becky has just been making bad decisions since 1994 and never stopped. Something I would have loved is Dan telling himself: "I should have stayed at the garage and not done that damn prison. I never think ahead." As for Roseanne's addiction, going to be a real pain when she runs out and can't get anything and Dan is going to have to break the news to the rest of the family. Because you know that is coming. I could see Jackie even trying to get the money too for the surgery. 

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I liked this episode, but damn, can anything nice happen to these people? I know the Connors don't travel much, but I was surprised they didn't know hotels put a hold on your card for incidentals.

Of course they didn't give us any insight on Ed and the kids. Why would they when they've already left a million other important questions unanswered. *sarcastic eyeroll*

Regarding Darlene and the benefits argument, wouldn't her kids be eligible for Medicaid? I'm surprised they have zero coverage unless Darlene had too much pride to apply.

The scene between Becky and Darlene at the restaurant was sweet. Darlene's "friend in every color" comment was hilarious.

I'm not surprised Roseanne is the one with the addiction. As noted above, it runs in her personality and she always seemed to be more depressed about her lot in life than Dan. Roseanne always struck me as someone who believed her life could've been better had she not married so young and had kids, while Dan was fairly content, despite their struggles.

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3 hours ago, mojoween said:

I liked at the beginning when it was just the five of them, just like original recipe.  Although, if they were going to include a throwaway line about Jerry in a previous ep, a lack of mention of him when they were having a family dinner stuck out.

If the revival was going to retcon Andy, resurrect Dan, and make Harris five years younger, I think Jerry could have been forgotten altogether. He was an infant when the original series ended, and therefore was never able to play a significant role on the show. Most casual viewers are probably unaware that the Conners had a fourth child. 

Overall, I thought this was the strongest episode so far. It tackled weighty subject matter without being didactic, and the acting was less stiff. 

College-educated, published writer Darlene working as a server at a casino felt very real. I know all too well that higher education and years of experience, especially in a creative field, don't necessarily mean much when it comes to finding sustainable employment. I think the show is doing a good job of showing that economic success is not the report card of life. 

Favorite exchange of the night was Becky complaining about women with children feeling entitled to special treatment, and Darlene responding by saying something like, "Yes, we single mothers have had it too good for too long." 

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I always get such a happy feeling when I watch Roseanne :)

Crystal manages to come out ahead of the curve in terms of being able to retire, etc.  I often think she must have gotten a decent settlement when her 1st husband got killed while at work.. and Crystal back in the 80s was very feminine and sweet (in small doses) so I could see her being a crackerjack sales girl in terms of cosmetics (and probably being able to afford her own insurance when she quit Welman).  Even though she ended up having two kids with Ed, he had a decent job on the road.. so it was difficult.. but probably had benefits and probably cost less to not work (daycare/child-care) then to work.  So I can see why she ended up retiring in  her 60s.

I love that they have a casino because the town that inspired Elgin has a casino. and helped to revive part of Elgin especially the downtown portion.  I'm glad we got answer as to what Darlene was doing... (novels-I assume ghost writing.. textbooks.. menus, etc).  I could see her being able to do the writing as a past time/part time gig while keeping the waitress job for the benefits.

This season is showing Becky finding her way out of the dark place she's been in for several years.. and I think if she's serious about going for the degree.. I could see her becoming a manager at a restaurant..even an upscale one... or even.. gasp becoming a manager at the casino (thus being Darlene's boss... comic potential).

Jackie brought out all the different versions of her character in this episode.. cop mode, logical mode, and OTT Jackie.... I just want to see her as a mother and how she differs as mother vs. as aunt.

Roseanne/Dan still have the chemistry.. and I'm glad Roseanne is no longer a man hater like she was in season 7 through 9.  I still wish the actress would do a dramatic guest stint on another show because she's pretty good with the serious moments (and has natural instincts when it comes to that).

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21 minutes ago, Bastet said:

 

Crystal recommending Darlene, instead of Becky who actually has server experience, for her old job was something I was curious about based just on reading it, but it played much better – Becky has a job, and Darlene is looking for one (and has kids to support), so Crystal’s thought process made sense.  (That’s not something I say often!)  

I agree. I can see Crystal wanting to help Darlene out given that she herself was a struggling single mom for so many years. Not to mention Roseanne is one of Crystal's best friends, so Crystal would be well aware of how stressful it was for Roseanne to be supporting three additional people.

And not for nothing, but for as much as Becky bitches and moans, she apparently makes enough to afford an apartment and a car. She isn't living fancy, but her situation isn't as dire as Darlene's.

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I liked this episode, but damn, can anything nice happen to these people? I know the Connors don't travel much, but I was surprised they didn't know hotels put a hold on your card for incidentals.

That's actually a pretty real moment - you would be genuinely shocked how many people don't know this.

Agree btw that Becky's situation is no where near as bad as Darlene's. And comparatively speaking, Jackie is much more successful than Roseanne - she's apparently employed at *something* because she's paying the rent on her apartment....

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“And when your back goes out, you lay on the couch for two weeks and I wait on you hand and foot.  What happens when my knee hurts?”

Well, Darlene could have taken over but she didn't. And when she told Dan something like "we're doing OK," I thought, "Who is this 'we' of which you speak? You don't pay the bills." (Of course, if David hadn't abandoned the family she might not have ended up on her parents' doorstep before the ink was dry on her severance check.)

Maybe the job will give Darlene something to write about.

The Old French Whore outfit cracked me up.

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8 minutes ago, LadyintheLoop said:

Well, Darlene could have taken over but she didn't.

Darlene is a recent re-addition to the household; Roseanne has been managing her knee pain - which comes with cost-prohibitive surgery and reduced pain pill supply - for a while before we joined their new life in progress.  I think she's talking in general terms about her chronic problem versus Dan's sporadic one, when he tried to equate his back acting up with her knee always being an issue.

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This episode was gold. I was howling and rewinding, howling and rewinding.... Loved it so much.

I am loving Becky, what the heck? I was always 100% Darlene in the old days. Becky delivers her lines like she wrote them herself. Just flat out, head up. I love it. Darlene seems more shrunken and skittish and jumpy than the old days. Maybe it is intentional. Becky is perhaps finally starting to see her way out after Mark's death while motherhood has taken a toll on Darlene (and me too, so I get it and howdy).

For me it is a thrill to watch Jackie. The scene where she sprays the whipped cream into her own mouth is hilarious. I had to rewind it several times. Laurie Metcalf is a genius.

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So, why is "Netflix" in the episode title? Netflix was never even mentioned in the episode. Am I missing something?

So, it was Roseanne who was taking those pills. I should have known.

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4 hours ago, Lili said:

So, why is "Netflix" in the episode title? Netflix was never even mentioned in the episode. Am I missing something?

So, it was Roseanne who was taking those pills. I should have known.

i don't get the "netflix" either.

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I thought the emergence of Roseanne's opioid abuse was a good twist.  I didn't expect that.  Opioid abuse scares me because there's a legitimate need for these drugs but I'm always worried that I'll get hooked on them if I end up in a position where I need them.

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Jackie being a baby bird had me rolling!

Haha, that disembodied hand coming in from the side to grab the can away from her!

I felt bad that they had to leave the hotel; I wish they'd have called Jackie or something to use her card. But at least the pill-enhanced drunken hijinks at home was funny--reminded me of the pot episode ("WhatdoyouwantDJ?!" Haha, my BF and I still say that to each other). And hopefully, Roseanne's addiction is in early enough stages that they can kind of get it under control with little drama. 

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Becky looks great for her age, although that big ugly tattoo is really distracting.  I like scenes where she is in long sleeves.

11 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

So I will say while I appreciate that the show is trying to stay at least semi-realistic, how much bleaker can things get?  I mean, even when they had the power shut off on the original show, it still felt like there was an underlying sense of humor and hope.  Now, I just find things really depressing.  At this point, my question is: what's next?  Roseanne hooking on the street corner to get her pill fix?  I'm not saying I want the show to be just another sitcom, but I feel like there is a way to tell this story without making it like this.  

I'm with you.  I get turned off if a show gets too bleak.  I stopped watching The Last Man on Earth in the middle of season 3 because of this.  I watch TV to be entertained, not depressed.

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Becky looks great for her age, although that big ugly tattoo is really distracting.  I like scenes where she is in long sleeves.

What is the tattoo? I haven't seen it close enough to know if it's ugly. I agree that Becky does look good, but not "for her age." She's only 43; there's no reason she shouldn't look like she looks.

ETA: Found the tattoo; not ugly that I can see--just your standard American traditional style, and seems well executed.

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9 hours ago, BitterApple said:

And not for nothing, but for as much as Becky bitches and moans, she apparently makes enough to afford an apartment and a car. She isn't living fancy, but her situation isn't as dire as Darlene's.

While she isn't living the good life, Becky doesn't have any kids so all her expenses are for her. Darlene needs to pay for three people. So I can see why Crystal offered the job to her. 

Becky feeding her baby birds whipped cream was cute. I'd like to see her hang out with her niece and nephew more. I loved Darlene's "you can sit under a tree a play guitar with someone of every color" remark. I'm really liking the sister relationship with Darlene and Becky in the revival. They act like real siblings act. They make fun of each other but you know they love each other and want to help. DJ is still kind of there. 

It was obvious Roseanne was hoarding the pills, although how she managed to steal other people's pills is a mystery. I don't consider this show bleak, I consider it realistic. Most shows have the characters just get their dream jobs without ever having to work for it and they always have money for everything. That's not how most people live. Roseanne has always shown what it's really like for the working class while adding some humor to it. 

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Have Dan and Roseanne look into programs to help pay for her surgery? They might qualify for help since they are on EBT. Darlene could also qualify for children health care programs because she was not working for awhile and had no child support from David (even if she is working now she still might qualify for something.)

I'm sorry, but I cannot stand Jackie anymore. She is just too much over the top for me. I also do not care for the ole will you are single with no children so my life is so much harder than yours because I have children and you don't spiel. Becky works hard while Darlene sits at home whining about how hard her life is. She did not want to take the waitress job in the first place because it was beneath her. I guess her I am so much better than you are because I got a college education and you do not have one attitude came back to bite her in ass.

I do not think Roseanne represents the working middle class. A lot of their problems came because they made bad mistakes. I also would love to know how Dan and Roseanne will pay for her physical therapy after her surgery.

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so everyone is just overlooking that Roseanne stole medication from people (I mean she had their pill bottles with their names on it)? thats kinda way fucked up so not only now is she a Junkie but a thief I get this is a comedy but come on (and yes i know she stole from rodbells ie food and stuff )

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11 hours ago, mojoween said:

I never knew they checked your card balance before you even checked in to the hotel.  

Yup and the more expensive a hotel/motel/ resort, the more they expect to put a hold on.

BTW. Roseanne left with a good supply of fresh fruit. Great continuity on the stealing. Not to mention the pills.

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4 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

so everyone is just overlooking that Roseanne stole medication from people (I mean she had their pill bottles with their names on it)? thats kinda way fucked up so not only now is she a Junkie but a thief I get this is a comedy but come on (and yes i know she stole from rodbells ie food and stuff )

Hear hear!!! I do not find it funny at all.

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17 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

so everyone is just overlooking that Roseanne stole medication from people (I mean she had their pill bottles with their names on it)? thats kinda way fucked up so not only now is she a Junkie but a thief I get this is a comedy but come on (and yes i know she stole from rodbells ie food and stuff )

Mrs. Readster was wondering how she just happen to get into these houses/apartments and just take bottles left and right. I mean, Dan knew who these people were too and how Roseanne hid a ziplock of pills in an ice back. Yeah, they might be in plastic, but being in constant freezing temps including being in ice, those pills would be eventually breaking apart and mixing together that would most likely cause Roseanne to OD. Plus, really, Dan or no one in that house didn't refill the ice bag and go: "What are these pills doing in here?" Also, they talked about the $3K for the needed surgery, where did the money come for the stair chair? How was Darelene paying for her and her kids cellphone plan. How come Dan has a flip phone, yet all the passwords on Roseanne's smart phone have his passwords? There are so many plot holes that you could drive a truck through them and I know they said they went to Elgin (30 minutes from where I am) and I know the living conditions there and everything. However, they really, really have a lot of not only exaggerations on Landford 2018, but are missing a lot of facts. Plus, Darlene talking about UofI in St. Charles. Yeah, there isn't one, now if she would have said Rockford or NIU, Elgin Community College or even Kishwaukee CC. Then that would have made sense, but the writers don't use Google and think no one else does. 

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I wonder why Roseanne didn't go to a public hospital for her surgery?  I have people in my family that do that.  My cousin's wife doesn't work and has always gone to the public, charity hospital whenever she's needed surgery or treatments and gets it for free.

I too wondered about Darlene getting her kids Medicaid, but in the state where I live I believe they have to be a single parent and destitute.  I don't think David and Darlene are divorced and David obviously has enough money that he bought a house in Lanford.  The rules might be different in different states.

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9 hours ago, LadyintheLoop said:

The Old French Whore outfit cracked me up.

Totally OT, but that Old! French! Whore! skit on SNL never fails to crack me up, so thank you for the reminder that it exists in this world.  I'm going to have to find it on the YouTubes and re-watch it today.  "I think my whore is dead..."

1 hour ago, TattleTeeny said:

Haha, that disembodied hand coming in from the side to grab the can away from her!

I felt bad that they had to leave the hotel; I wish they'd have called Jackie or something to use her card. But at least the pill-enhanced drunken hijinks at home was funny--reminded me of the pot episode ("WhatdoyouwantDJ?!" Haha, my BF and I still say that to each other). And hopefully, Roseanne's addiction is in early enough stages that they can kind of get it under control with little drama. 

Back on topic...  YES!  The disembodied hand!  DH clutched his stomach and laughed so hard I thought he needed medical attention!  And ironically "A Stash from the Past" was on CMT this past weekend and we actually recorded it (even though we've seen it 1947492839 times) because we were getting ready to leave the house.  We watched it last night before we went to bed and laughed like it was the first time.  "Is this the sink, am I shrinking?" never fails to slay me.

31 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

so everyone is just overlooking that Roseanne stole medication from people (I mean she had their pill bottles with their names on it)? thats kinda way fucked up so not only now is she a Junkie but a thief I get this is a comedy but come on (and yes i know she stole from rodbells ie food and stuff )

Oh, good point...I actually read this as Roseanne having made the rounds of several pill mills, getting prescriptions under different names, and paying cash to get them filled, but she also could have bought them from someone else.  Shady people get scripts from shady docs, fill them with their insurance, then sell them to other people for profit.  That's probably a more likely scenario than Roseanne stealing the bottles.  Dan didn't recognize any of the names on the bottles, did he?  How would she steal from strangers?  

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Illinois has a special health insurance program for kids called ‘All Kids’.   Darlene could have had the kids on that once she lost her job with benefits.  However  Medicaid patients in Illinois have trouble finding doctors that accept it.   

I thought it was hypocritical of Dan to criticize Darlene for the casino job thing. How many times did we see Roseanne and Dan change jobs without one thought about benefits? Not that he didn’t have a point. 

If Dan and Roseanne dont have enough room on any credit card for a hotel incidentals hold they need to make some serious changes. 

If they are old enough for social security they need to start taking it. If they are old enough for Medicare - why aren’t they on it? Why would there be a $3000 deductible for knee replacement on Medicare? So they aren’t 65 yet? 

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Also, they talked about the $3K for the needed surgery, where did the money come for the stair chair?

Dan took the stair chair from a house he was helping demo. It was much bally hooed that it was free. 

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It seemed like there was too much crammed into one episode.  The anniversary, credit card being declined, pain pill addiction, Becky's & Darlene's casino job, Becky possibly going back to school.  It was a little much.  Still not a fan of Wacky Jacky.  The writers need to tone her down more.  Again, I don't understand why she has to scream her lines.  

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2 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

I felt bad that they had to leave the hotel

I was waiting for the clerk to tell them that they’d be charged for the room even if they left, since they hadn’t canceled 24 hours ahead.  That’s the policy of many/most hotels.

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11 minutes ago, Tenarife60 said:

 

I too wondered about Darlene getting her kids Medical, but in the state where I live I believe they have to be a single parent and destitute.  I don't think David and Darlene are divorced and David obviously has enough money that he bought a house in Lanford.  The rules might be different in different states.

I'm not sure if it's super strict in Illinois, but we live in Nevada and my sister-in-law and her husband were able to get their kids on the State health plan. They both work, but they're low-income and fall within the limits. I'm surprised Darlene wouldn't qualify considering she had nothing coming in at that point and David had been M.I.A. for years. 

bigskygirl, I'm with you on Jackie. I felt like she was the clunker in a great episode. Laurie is a terrific actress, but I was never a fan of the Wacky Jackie years and I feel like it's even worse now. Every line is over-exaggerated and the only facial expression Jackie is capable of is "bug-eyed wonderment". It's just too over the top for me.

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17 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Illinois has a special health insurance program for kids called ‘All Kids’.   Darlene could have had the kids on that once she lost her job with benefits.  However  Medicaid patients in Illinois have trouble finding doctors that accept it.   

I thought it was hypocritical of Dan to criticize Darlene for the casino job thing. How many times did we see Roseanne and Dan change jobs without one thought about benefits? Not that he didn’t have a point. 

If Dan and Roseanne dont have enough room on any credit card for a hotel incidentals hold they need to make some serious changes. 

If they are old enough for social security they need to start taking it. If they are old enough for Medicare - why aren’t they on it? Why would there be a $3000 deductible for knee replacement on Medicare? So they aren’t 65 yet? 

Medicare does not cover the whole bill (usually up to 80% after deductibles.) Dan did make a good point about taking a job to support yourself and your family even if it is not your dream job. Does Becky have her high school diploma or a GED because she will need it before applying for college.

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3 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Illinois has a special health insurance program for kids called ‘All Kids’.   Darlene could have had the kids on that once she lost her job with benefits.  However  Medicaid patients in Illinois have trouble finding doctors that accept it.   

All Kids, No Docs. 

8 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

If they are old enough for social security they need to start taking it.

The less you have earned on the books over your working life, the more you stand to lose by taking Social Security before age 66. I'm sure Roseanne and Dan thought they could hang on until Medicare at 65 for Roseanne's knee, and until 66 for Social Security. 

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