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  1. A substantive political journalist, appearing on TV. Vanocur's Times obit.
  2. Based on the novel by Paul Theroux, Mosquito Coast is the story of an idealist who uproots his family and moves them to Latin America. Neil Cross (Luther) is the adapter and showrunner. Justin Theroux stars. Anticipation for Mosquito Coast Book and Movie Talk: Other Shores Small Talk: Buzz Zone
  3. I think the fate of the Butlers' waterfront estate on Montauk will be one of the first cross-ties between timelines. Do Helen's parents or Helen sell it before the shoreline takes it?
  4. To me, through episode 3, season 5 seems to be spun around the themes of fate and consequences. How when we're young, the stories we hear, intuit and make up about our families inform the people we become. How, as human beings, we can almost willfully ignore the signs of impending disaster, then haplessly lament or course-correct after the fact. In Joanie's timeline, we see what the show projects as the consequences of heedlessness. There's nothing nifty about needing to grow strawberries indoors, or having your toilet test and spell out the results of your sample, every time. Nothing cool about hating the very idea of making your own children. But here we are, says the show, because of what we did and didn't do, decades before. Because the only one thing we knew how to do was to be the way that we are, and then, sink back into the ocean. So it wasn't just Alison. And back in the last century, it also wasn't only Alison who was forced to make up her own mind about who and where she came from. Alison was told that her father could be anyone, by the mother who disappeared and re-appeared under a new name. But Cole's father disappeared, re-appeared, then committed suicide "out of the blue," leaving behind a family and the family ranch. Noah's mother was mortally ill throughout his adolescence and finally asked him to help her commit suicide, so that they both could escape. Helen had it lot easier in many ways, hindered mostly by two parents off serving on the front lines of a permanent war with one another. Ten years ago, Noah and Alison had an affair that "ended" two marriages and one family, leading to two other marriages and one re-made family, as well as Joanie Stormborn. Joanie, whose mother gave birth to her alone in a nor'easter like the night she died; fathered first by Noah and then by Cole, mothered by Alison, then Luisa, then both, then...? Joanie, who has good reason to believe that her elders did her wrong: that her father's father was a runaway who came back to kill himself; that her mother's mother was a runaway who came back to leave again; that her mother let her first child drown, left Joanie's father, and left Joanie to go drown herself. Meanwhile, to Joanie, their legacy is a whole world created by what happens when people don't take care of what matters most. She may scorn her elders for calling the consequences "fate," but that's also what her heart narrates about the undertow within her. She just thinks of it as neurochemistry, and not the gods' caprice.
  5. I like this idea, but I'm not sure it plays out. I'm not sure Noah thinks there's anything that Helen would bother to repress in his presence anymore, or even refuse to say aloud. (In fact, part of him has always counted on that: never more than now.) It's the dusk of the day of Vik's funeral, and there he is, her inexplicable ex, toting out the garbage cans as Vik did, when Vik first met Sierra. Helen didn't care how she sounded when she told him this was Vik's job, or that what she wanted (you insufferable survivor, just like me) was Vik. I can see her finishing by asking, "Why wasn't it you?" There's some question in that question. And even as an accusation, it's a lot less vicious than what Cole's mother Cherry said to Alison in season one, about Gabriel's death: "It should have been you." Of course, Cherry's statement could be what Alison imagined that Cherry wanted to say. But I didn't take it that way then, and still don't. I'm not sure Cherry said it, but I'm certain it's what Alison remembers. Each POV, I'm pretty sure, is neither what "actually" happened nor what the character imagines might have happened: it's what the character recalls. The show is Treem's take on what memory is for.
  6. Two recurring players still occur: John Amos (Gordy the weatherman) and Lisa Gerritsen (Bess Lindstrom).
  7. Pallas

    Tennis Thread

    After winning the match, Medvedev barely brushed hands with the umpire, turned away and wiped his hand on his shorts. He then sauntered around the court and gestured for the spectators to bring it on. During the interview, he taunted the booing crowd, saying that "the energy you showed me, helped me win the match." And told them to go home and think about that. And added -- as the boos continued -- that this reaction would carry him through another five (sic) matches.
  8. Pallas

    Tennis Thread

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/tennis/us-open-daniil-medvedev-snaps-at-ball-boy-flips-off-the-crowd/news-story/8e245917a29dd1e5d04d859730c499bc?from=htc_rss Not shrewd.
  9. Good interview with creator/showrunner Taylor Sheridan. https://deadline.com/2019/08/yellowstone-finale-taylor-sheridan-interview-kevin-costner-dabney-coleman-1202706859/
  10. The Helen/Noah timeline begins about 8 months after Season 4 ended, when Sierra first knew she was pregnant: so, it's roughly contemporaneous. Ruth Wilson and Anna Paquin are the same age (37), and Joanie is turning the same age as her mother when she died. I'd guess her narrative is set about three decades in our future. Where we're not yet meant to know if Cole -- or any other of her elders are still alive, or in her life. Overall, the show's contemporary timeline has advanced about two years to our one. The show premiered in 2014. In this ep, Helen said that Noah left ten years ago; Vik reinforced that in his message, when he said he'd known the kids for eight years.
  11. From yesterday: the Times publishes a feature-of-an-eyeroll about Andrew. I'm guessing that the editors were delighted to (finally) have a context/pretext for including the bit about the ironing board.
  12. From The Harvard Crimson, June 5, 2003: People in the News: Jeffrey E. Epstein Contemplative portrait of "the elusive financier" -- complete with signet ring -- provided by himself. Behold The Scarlet Pimpernel. The Crimson Pimpernel.
  13. MIT stepped up: in an open letter to the MIT community on Thursday evening, President L. Rafael Reif apologized to Epstein's victims, and pledged to donate the $800k received from Epstein foundations to a charity for their benefit. “With hindsight, we recognize with shame and distress that we allowed MIT to contribute to the elevation of his reputation, which in turn served to distract from his horrifying acts,” Reif said. “No apology can undo that.” https://www.boston.com/news/education/2019/08/23/mit-epstein-money Previously posted, above, by SimoneS.: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/us/jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations/index.html
  14. The linked instagram thread concerns Epstein's relationship with former Harvard President Lawrence Summers, who led the university in 2003, when Epstein made his $6.5 million donation. Lawrence Bacow (former president of Tufts) became President of Harvard last year.
  15. Pallas

    S02.E04: Beryl

    I think it's two-fold. The production take its greatest pains with historical elements that may evoke nostalgia or even reverence, however rueful or ironic. There's not much mystique to modern-day craft. And the writer is painting Armstrong-Jones as less an artist than a bounder who used his craft to advance his place, and less a rebel than a cad. Who cares about his tools?
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