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4 minutes ago, CaseyRe said:

I think Malena is gorgeous, super photogenic, and very well spoken when she's passionate, so it's easy to see why she was kept on as an ambassador cheerleader, and why Kelli desperately keeps hanging on to her, but with how she's struggling, it's mean to keep her so long whn there's no way she can make the team this year

I wonder if Kashara was honest partially because that's just Kashara, or if its because its her last year and so she gives zero Fs, a bit of both or just that she knew of everyone in the room she was the only oen who could get away with it. Maddie looked terrified and Lacey deeply unsure about voicing an opinion beyond how hard it must be for K&J, but good ole Kashara knew what was up and jsut said it. she's such an easy going girl, seems to get along iwth everyone, so you know if she's saying it, then something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Kelli was literally asking those girls to pick between Victoria and Lilly - they all knew Victoria was strongly being considered for being cut.  I can’t see why any of them wouldn’t have just gave their honest opinion on her.  They have no reason to lie.  It’s not like they had to pick someone to cut out of all the TC - Kelli narrowed it down to a specific few for feedback.

Is Kashara VK’s GL?  Was Lily also in her group?  Perhaps that’s why she was speaking on those specific two girls?

Whats got to be hard re: that scene is now Ashlee knows Lacey wanted her cut ;)...that’s got to be awkward.  

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8 hours ago, Lona said:

Have you ever considered running for office? Cause you just convinced me, a long-time lurker, to create an account and start joining in the fun.

Seriously, y'all are so entertaining and fun to read!

Well good!!!  I'm glad I convinced you.  This board is a lot of fun, and unlike real life, if you get mad or frustrated, you can just walk away:) Also, if you're like me and you don't know anyone who watches this show, it's nice to have a group of people who will understand why you are mad that this girl got cut.  Or that you are mad that this gal made the squad years ago, was on it for years, and now has a husband or kids or successful career, and has moved on, but that you still aren't over it.  Who else understands your obsession with who made point?  Or where everyone is in the squad photo?  Or how they look in cameos?  Who else will appreciate that you know how to eat bread, or quail, or French onion soup cause there is a lot going on in that?  Who else knows that it doesn't matter how good a DCC's hair looks if their stomach moves more than it does?

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6 hours ago, UnicornKicks said:

Except Charlotte is a huge part of the reason VK is still there. THEY ALL WANT HER. Judy sees the light but was not going to be the first dissenter. 

If THEY ALL WANT HER why does she only have a sticker from Kitty? It doesn't look like Charlotte gives stickers, but Kelli & Judy certainly do. It's starting to look like it's maybe not fully Kelli's choice to keep or cut her.

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4 hours ago, M1977G said:

I think she is the one who made Amy stumble on the field during the kick line; it looked like VK was pulling down on her too hard. Taylor vs VK was like night and day with the offer of resources to help be/stay in physical shape to make the team.

I thought the same thing when I saw it happen, that it was Ictoria.

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Muckypup61

2 minutes ago, Jennv said:

I'm wondering if it's because she didn't take Kitty's classes. She wasn't there when they filmed that scene of Kitty woriwith the girls on their solos

Watching Jaylyn dance...she doesn't need Kitty's classes. Might be another reason Kitty didn't give her a sticker. I think Kitty likes having the TCC's kowtow to her for approval.

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1 hour ago, CPA1967 said:

Pulling at your hair and being so dramatic about 7 more cuts is an 18 year old who was told she was on the team and doing this for camera time. She never felt like she was one of the 7..ever. 

This. Kelli, have you seen her dramatics on the cmt camera time? Have you seen how she acts? Have you heard her talk? You are as embarrassing as Ictoria is at this point. 

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Muckypup61

I am already wondering how all this will play out next year if VK tries out again. Will her mother, and Kelli, both have had a good, hard conversation with her about growing up and acting like a professional? Or will she walk in thinking she'll get a free ride this time because "Auntie Kelli" was so mean to her last year by cutting her? Inquiring minds want to know!

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3 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

I am already wondering how all this will play out next year if VK tries out again. Will her mother, and Kelli, both have had a good, hard conversation with her about growing up and acting like a professional? Or will she walk in thinking she'll get a free ride this time because "Auntie Kelli" was so mean to her last year by cutting her? Inquiring minds want to know!

I don't know. She just posted a dance video to her insta story. She is wearing leggings and a loose top to hide her gut, but when she moves around it becomes visible and looks like a baby bump. Still got the double chin going too. If she is going to meet the weight requirements next year she needs to get on it now, not wait until May and go on a starvation diet.

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4 hours ago, klh25 said:

My daughter (24) also named Taylor doesn't own a TV. 

Yeah - a TV is becoming way less of a necessity among young people nowadays.    My 18 year old son never watches TV.   My daughter and her friends only watch Netflix and YouTube videos.    As this younger generation grows up, I can’t see them paying for things like cable and satellite dishes who’s content is filled w/ advertisements when they can just watch the shows that they like on their phones (or smart TVs if they want a bigger screen).

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

22 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

Kelli was literally asking those girls to pick between Victoria and Lilly - they all knew Victoria was strongly being considered for being cut.  I can’t see why any of them wouldn’t have just gave their honest opinion on her.  They have no reason to lie.  It’s not like they had to pick someone to cut out of all the TC - Kelli narrowed it down to a specific few for feedback.

Is Kashara VK’s GL?  Was Lily also in her group?  Perhaps that’s why she was speaking on those specific two girls?

Whats got to be hard re: that scene is now Ashlee knows Lacey wanted her cut ;)...that’s got to be awkward.  

Yes, I'm well aware that's what was being asked of the girls, though it was Kashara that chose to break it down between Victoria and Lily, not Kelli per se as KaShara voices that.  but Kashara is point, and is leaving after this season so she's got less to lose than those like maddie (who looked scared to be there and didn't have good presence or confidence at all in front of Kelli which is surprising for a 3rd year vet candidate) and Amy seemed kinda out of it at times. Lacey (who i believe is also leaving after this year??) just looked somewhat apprehensive a lot when looking at the board and back to K&J.

Totally OT, how is Marty exclusively JT's choreographer if he's working with loads of other people including DCC? did they mean that JT works exclusively with him (which explains why I hate any time JT dances - and sings but that's another thing altogether) rather than that he exclusively works with JT?

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scorpio1031

scorpio1031

3 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

I am already wondering how all this will play out next year if VK tries out again. Will her mother, and Kelli, both have had a good, hard conversation with her about growing up and acting like a professional? Or will she walk in thinking she'll get a free ride this time because "Auntie Kelli" was so mean to her last year by cutting her? Inquiring minds want to know!

What did JohnGalt say - that she wasn't expecting the reaction she got to her larger than life personality and how self involved she was?  At some point, her parents should have stopped thinking she's the baby, she's our only little girl and started dealing with the little girl growing up.  And we know she is smart - she's already a college sophomore - so is she just book smart and not street smart?  Cause that's where common sense comes in.  I also wonder about friendships.  We know she is friends with the other daughters, but does she have friends she hangs out with on a day to day basis who will call her out on her BS like friends do.  Are the only grownups she deals with just in the dance world?

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13 minutes ago, Jennv said:

Exactly, this is what I was getting at. Jalyn isn't kissing her giant butt, begging for approval.

Could also be she doesn’t like Jalyn’s look - her cameo footage really didn’t look too hot if you really look at the poses and shots shown on the show.   Kitty has liked plenty of candidates over the years who didn’t take classes at her studio.

I also wonder how these stickers are handed out - like do they only get a finite number of them to put on the TCC they like?   The abscence of a sticker may not mean that they think you should be cut, but just that you aren’t a top favorite of that person or something like that..

CaseyRe

CaseyRe

1 minute ago, scorpio1031 said:

What did JohnGalt say - that she wasn't expecting the reaction she got to her larger than life personality and how self involved she was?  At some point, her parents should have stopped thinking she's the baby, she's our only little girl and started dealing with the little girl growing up.  And we know she is smart - she's already a college sophomore - so is she just book smart and not street smart?  Cause that's where common sense comes in.  I also wonder about friendships.  We know she is friends with the other daughters, but does she have friends she hangs out with on a day to day basis who will call her out on her BS like friends do.  Are the only grownups she deals with just in the dance world?

This isn't solely aimed at VK remotely, but attending college doesn't mean you're smart, book or street.  From my own university experience, there are more than enough people that will easily defy that particular belief.

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39 minutes ago, Newmanbritt said:

Jalyn doesn’t have a kitty sticker? That surprises me

Also interesting is how VK doesn’t have a Kelli sticker.  If Kelli is so biased towards her you’d think she’d at least give her a sticker.  I’m thinking there is something about how the stickers are handed out that we don’t understand.

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scorpio1031

1 minute ago, CaseyRe said:

Yes, I'm well aware that's what was being asked of the girls, though it was Kashara that chose to break it down between Victoria and Lily, not Kelli per se as KaShara voices that.  but Kashara is point, and is leaving after this season so she's got less to lose than those like maddie (who looked scared to be there and didn't have good presence or confidence at all in front of Kelli which is surprising for a 3rd year vet candidate) and Amy seemed kinda out of it at times. Lacey (who i believe is also leaving after this year??) just looked somewhat apprehensive a lot when looking at the board and back to K&J.

Has this been done before?  Is this the first time on camera?  I would be hesitant to give my opinion if I knew it were going to be seen onscreen.  I wouldn't want to upset anybody even if I knew this was helping them out.  So I can see why Amy or Maddie would be nervous, plus it's their first year as a group leader.  Furthermore, the way Kelli has been protecting VK this year has probably put them all on edge.  It's a different scenario than what they are used to.

 

3 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

Could also be she doesn’t like Jalyn’s look - her cameo footage really didn’t look too hot if you really look at the poses and shots shown on the show.   Kitty has liked plenty of candidates over the years who didn’t take classes at her studio.

I also wonder how these stickers are handed out - like do they only get a finite number of them to put on the TCC they like?   The abscence of a sticker may not mean that they think you should be cut, but just that you aren’t a top favorite of that person or something like that..

If they can only have a squad of 36, than I would think they should only get 36 stickers.

 

1 minute ago, CaseyRe said:

This isn't solely aimed at VK remotely, but attending college doesn't mean you're smart, book or street.  From my own university experience, there are more than enough people that will easily defy that particular belief.

Oh I know.  I was just thinking of one my friends - love him to death - but he can read a book within hours, tell you what he read, hold a discussion group on it.  And then say something to someone that will almost get him beat up or hurt someone's feelings cause how to treat people was not in a book:/

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

1 minute ago, scorpio1031 said:

Has this been done before?  Is this the first time on camera?  I would be hesitant to give my opinion if I knew it were going to be seen onscreen.  I wouldn't want to upset anybody even if I knew this was helping them out.  So I can see why Amy or Maddie would be nervous, plus it's their first year as a group leader.  Furthermore, the way Kelli has been protecting VK this year has probably put them all on edge.  It's a different scenario than what they are used to.

 

If they can only have a squad of 36, than I would think they should only get 36 stickers.

 

Oh I know.  I was just thinking of one my friends - love him to death - but he can read a book within hours, tell you what he read, hold a discussion group on it.  And then say something to someone that will almost get him beat up or hurt someone's feelings cause how to treat people was not in a book:/

which is why I wondered if Kashara out and out specifically stated why she wasnt giving VK a sticker because she knows there's not really a lot they can do to can her at this point - she's looking great, dancing great, she's point, they love her, it'd be super obvious if she was cut that it be because she gave an honest review of why she didn't think VK was good for the team (in particular as an ambassador if she can't control whats coming out of her mouth) whereas at very leasst we didn't see the other girls do that, we just heard why they were giving stickers to other girls. that Kashara was more honest because she knew a)the others felt they couldn't/wouldn't and that b) she felt she could and get away with it because of her position on the team

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Jennv

Jennv

1 minute ago, CaseyRe said:

which is why I wondered if Kashara out and out specifically stated why she wasnt giving VK a sticker because she knows there's not really a lot they can do to can her at this point - she's looking great, dancing great, she's point, they love her, it'd be super obvious if she was cut that it be because she gave an honest review of why she didn't think VK was good for the team (in particular as an ambassador if she can't control whats coming out of her mouth) whereas at very leasst we didn't see the other girls do that, we just heard why they were giving stickers to other girls. that Kashara was more honest because she knew a)the others felt they couldn't/wouldn't and that b) she felt she could and get away with it because of her position on the team

I assumed Kashara was the one to call out VK because VK was in her group, is that not correct? Whose group was VK in?

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scorpio1031

scorpio1031

2 minutes ago, CaseyRe said:

which is why I wondered if Kashara out and out specifically stated why she wasnt giving VK a sticker because she knows there's not really a lot they can do to can her at this point - she's looking great, dancing great, she's point, they love her, it'd be super obvious if she was cut that it be because she gave an honest review of why she didn't think VK was good for the team (in particular as an ambassador if she can't control whats coming out of her mouth) whereas at very leasst we didn't see the other girls do that, we just heard why they were giving stickers to other girls. that Kashara was more honest because she knew a)the others felt they couldn't/wouldn't and that b) she felt she could and get away with it because of her position on the team

Doesn't this all make you wonder how much time Kelli really spent with VK while she was growing up?  Wouldn't she have noticed this?

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

5 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Doesn't this all make you wonder how much time Kelli really spent with VK while she was growing up?  Wouldn't she have noticed this?

Denial is a powerful thing. and she probably does know, but now she can pretend it was KaShara that pointed it out so its not that Kelli wants to cut her, but KaShara

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J-R

5 hours ago, M1977G said:

Just watched and I loved every minute of it! Go, Jinelle, stepping in for cameo shoots and giving positive direction like a boss! Yassss, KaShara, tell it like it is! I absolutely loved seeing the meeting with group leaders, and I want more of that every season. I thought Marty was a great guest choreographer, and while I'm sure he scared the crap out of Bridget calling her to the mat like that, my sense was that he wanted to build her up and push her to call on her confidence because he saw tremendous talent in her. For me, his feedback to her after the pom routine supported my feeling--he was like, see? You rock the dance floor, so don't forget that and bring it all the time. Love that he called Lacey a rock star, and I guess I'm happy for Maddie that he said that to her, too, but I'm just not a Maddie fan and I thought she was the least awesome of the three he called out to dance together. MAddie has good dance vibes with the music, for sure, but I am distracted by her appearance--more so now that she's gaining weight. How could Tasha look so amazing at the cameo shoot and they come up with a cameo for the season where she looks like some kind of clown makeup is running from under her eyes? I, like so many of y'all, am baffled. That screen shot of VK on the cameo monitor with the profound side roll was almost stupifying to me--how did they not drag her to My Fit Foods or whatever it is and/or cut her already? I think she is the one who made Amy stumble on the field during the kick line; it looked like VK was pulling down on her too hard. Taylor vs VK was like night and day with the offer of resources to help be/stay in physical shape to make the team. Taylor, can you be available early next week if we can get you an appointment? Absolutely! VK, can you go to this doctor's appointment? [Crickets...] Bless Tara's heart (truly, not snidely). I hope she's continuing with the self-care. Something definitely was going on with her. 

I want to click the heart 100x.  Agree to all of this.

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Pksbena1

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1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

Well good!!!  I'm glad I convinced you.  This board is a lot of fun, and unlike real life, if you get mad or frustrated, you can just walk away:) Also, if you're like me and you don't know anyone who watches this show, it's nice to have a group of people who will understand why you are mad that this girl got cut.  Or that you are mad that this gal made the squad years ago, was on it for years, and now has a husband or kids or successful career, and has moved on, but that you still aren't over it.  Who else understands your obsession with who made point?  Or where everyone is in the squad photo?  Or how they look in cameos?  Who else will appreciate that you know how to eat bread, or quail, or French onion soup cause there is a lot going on in that?  Who else knows that it doesn't matter how good a DCC's hair looks if their stomach moves more than it does?

I totally agree with you. If I mention this show to my co workers, husband, kids...they all think I’m some crazy person that needs to get a life....I guess I do need to get a life....but still....

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klh25

klh25

1 hour ago, Pksbena1 said:

 

One last thing....the constant focus on VK is crazy. Let’s be fair and show ALL TCC’s! Who is Daphne? Lily? I don’t know these girls because CMT won’t even give them 20 seconds of airtime. 

 

I was thinking that about Lily, I didn't even know who she was until the picture posted a minute ago. 

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2 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Kelli was literally asking those girls to pick between Victoria and Lilly - they all knew Victoria was strongly being considered for being cut.  I can’t see why any of them wouldn’t have just gave their honest opinion on her.  They have no reason to lie.  It’s not like they had to pick someone to cut out of all the TC - Kelli narrowed it down to a specific few for feedback.

Is Kashara VK’s GL?  Was Lily also in her group?  Perhaps that’s why she was speaking on those specific two girls?

Whats got to be hard re: that scene is now Ashlee knows Lacey wanted her cut ;)...that’s got to be awkward.  

Yes. Each group leader referred to their specific squad and placed stickers on their "top 9."

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MyFavShows

22 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

Victoria is in Kashara’s group not Lacey!s

And is Ashlee in Lacey’s?   If so, I think that scene was just the GLs commenting on the girls in their group, and specifically those at the bottom.  It would make sense that they’d know the most about the girls personalities and abilities.

Again, that scene airing probably created some awkwardness w/ Ashlee and Lacey being that Lacey was hinting towards how she should be cut.

4 minutes ago, Tootie said:

Yes. Each group leader referred to their specific squad and placed stickers on their "top 9."

Top 9 explains why Kashara put a sticker on herself ;).

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

3 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

And is Ashlee in Lacey’s?   If so, I think that scene was just the GLs commenting on the girls in their group, and specifically those at the bottom.  It would make sense that they’d know the most about the girls personalities and abilities.

Again, that scene airing probably created some awkwardness w/ Ashlee and Lacey being that Lacey was hinting towards how she should be cut.

Top 9 explains why Kashara put a sticker on herself ;).

They're all going to have chosen themselves. 9 is the group size and they're not going to exclude themselves from that 9, that'd be stupid.  Lacey definitely chose herself, you can see her pic behind Maddie at one point

I've finalyl realised what I don't like about VK's smile - her teeth are too white.  your teeth shouldn't be whiter than the whites of your eyes, it looks super unnatural, and while many on the team have teeth too white, hers are so white, it's like theyve been tipexed. its too much and with her large smile, it's blinding and just looks so unnatural

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Opine

I wonder if Tara/Savvy didn't have some sort of breakup?  Last year, they were a "package deal" and both were shown crying when asked what they would do if the duo was broken up.  This year in pics where they are given a choice, they are not near each other (for example calendar reveal).  I agree with you all that Tara looks sad and depressed.  Maybe the answer is right in front of us? 

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KoKo

KoKo

On 10/9/2018 at 10:53 PM, PixieDust said:

 Completely agree with all of this! May I also add, why is gorgeous , classy, most senior vet Lacy not in a better spot?!!

I totally agree with Khalyn deserving "front row" but I think she looks amazing in her position standing up. She looks so sassy ~ she is just beautiful!!!  And I think KaShara looks like a million bucks also!!!!  I don't think they have Lacey positioned well, she deserves a spot with better recognition-more towards the middle. 

The group picture as a whole IS a hot mess, I agree with others !! 

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pinkandsparkly13

pinkandsparkly13

29 minutes ago, Opine said:

I wonder if Tara/Savvy didn't have some sort of breakup?  Last year, they were a "package deal" and both were shown crying when asked what they would do if the duo was broken up.  This year in pics where they are given a choice, they are not near each other (for example calendar reveal).  I agree with you all that Tara looks sad and depressed.  Maybe the answer is right in front of us? 

I said before that I didn't think they seemed like super BFFs or anything. Even though they were the package deal last year, they seemed to be "close" because they cheered for the same team. They weren't like Jasmine and Danielle who were both from the Jets as well, and seemed to actually be best friends. I hope I'm making sense. Lol

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UnicornKicks

UnicornKicks

14 minutes ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

I said before that I didn't think they seemed like super BFFs or anything. Even though they were the package deal last year, they seemed to be "close" because they cheered for the same team. They weren't like Jasmine and Danielle who were both from the Jets as well, and seemed to actually be best friends. I hope I'm making sense. Lol

This. They knew each other and were friends but not BBFs til death or anything. Package deal was more of trying to make a storyline.

Also the Danielle/Jasmine bestie storyline was played up more than it actually was. They were friends and teammates, but once were established more in Dallas didn't really hang out too much. Danielle gravitated to the party crowd and Jasmine hung out with the BGC. Not falling out, just got to know other people so didn't need each otehr as much. 

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Thebiglebowski

Thebiglebowski

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Sometimes I cringe when I read my posts and all the other ppsts because we are talking about real, live, breathing, thinking, feeling, young women....and the world is already against women as it is. Do I personally think VK was ready to be a DCC-No. Could she ever be-Yes. She is not fat per real world standards. Was her body ready for DCC- yes during auditions, no during camp. I dont think VK was ever shy or meek or quiet. It is not a bad thing to be- Go Big or Go Home, you just need to develop the maturity to know the best and appropriate times to use your boldness. 

My best guess is that VK forgot the entire process was a job interview. I feel like she assumed the interview ended with the invitation to training camp. If she really did grow up with Auntie Kelly, it can be hard to abruptly transition away from that relationship, to that of a Boss/Employee dynamic.

 

I wish the best to all the young women just trying to find their place and figure out how to make sense of the world

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abigator

abigator

I wish VK would have left home for a year & studied at a university or maybe even traveled abroad. It’s amazing how much living away from home & your parents forces you to mature. She would probably have fit in well joining a sorority, which would’ve done wonders for improving her communication skills. Overall, I think getting away from TK & becoming her own woman by going to a university away from home would have really helped her. Hopefully, she comes back more polished, so we can all feel comfortable rooting for her.

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jlc

jlc

41 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said:

This. They knew each other and were friends but not BBFs til death or anything. Package deal was more of trying to make a storyline.

Also the Danielle/Jasmine bestie storyline was played up more than it actually was. They were friends and teammates, but once were established more in Dallas didn't really hang out too much. Danielle gravitated to the party crowd and Jasmine hung out with the BGC. Not falling out, just got to know other people so didn't need each otehr as much. 

I always wondered if Danielle and Jasmine stayed best friends. I remember Danielle cried when Jasmine did not make it back to training camp her third or fourth season, but she didn't cry hard. ?

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