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13 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

Wait, are you saying you and your co-workers don't call each other to make sure you all wear complimentary outfits each day?

It was a running joke in my old office - three out of four of us would happen to wear a blue shirt, and we'd say "Looks like Bob didn't get the memo."

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On 12/31/2021 at 2:56 PM, possibilities said:

People on TV show up at each other's homes with no warning, just to tell them one simple thing they could have called, texted, or emailed in a few seconds. And... since this is my biggest tv peeve of all time and I can't get over it... people are always home when this happens and they open the door without checking who is there first. 

A similar phenomenon happens on shows at workplaces, where a colleague goes to another colleague's office or desk just to tell them something that could have been- and probably should have been- an E-Mail or a phone call.

My guess is that Hollywood does this because it makes the interaction more personal as well as for logistical reasons, as it gives the actors "something to do" and doesn't have to require filming a "split screen" scene (which requires an additional set being filmed at the exact same time). We've all heard the adage that it's "better" to tell someone something "in person" than through a text or an E-Mail, and Hollywood ramps this up to 1000. I also think if you've hired all these actors for your show, you do need to use them. One way is to do this, especially when you've got an episode where one character may not feature at all if they weren't in that one scene.

Which gets me thinking about another Hollywood disconnect from reality- the fact that these characters all somehow live close enough to each other that they can visit each other on a whim. I live in an apartment complex but I don't interact with anyone except the Superintendent- my friends and my extended family all live a good drive away from where I live, so we can't show up all the time unannounced. We need to plan our interactions.

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3 minutes ago, Danielg342 said:

A similar phenomenon happens on shows at workplaces, where a colleague goes to another colleague's office or desk just to tell them something that could have been- and probably should have been- an E-Mail or a phone call.

It's funny how things change; in my first office job in the mid-90s, unless it was something detailed or that needed a paper trail, it was considered the height of laziness to email someone in the same department rather than just walking to their office/desk.

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52 minutes ago, Bastet said:

It's funny how things change; in my first office job in the mid-90s, unless it was something detailed or that needed a paper trail, it was considered the height of laziness to email someone in the same department rather than just walking to their office/desk.

I was in an office a few years ago where I was interrupted incessantly by people doing this to me rather than just sending me an email. It drove me crazy.

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20 hours ago, Bastet said:

It's funny how things change; in my first office job in the mid-90s, unless it was something detailed or that needed a paper trail, it was considered the height of laziness to email someone in the same department rather than just walking to their office/desk.

I remember group mocking of the person who preferred to call someone in the adjacent office, rather than just getting up and poking her head in.

It's good to get up and move around.  It's good to have actual personal connections with the people you work with.   They might give you a cookie.

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31 minutes ago, meep.meep said:

I remember group mocking of the person who preferred to call someone in the adjacent office, rather than just getting up and poking her head in.

I remember once, years ago, I was sitting at my desk working away. I heard my cubicle neighbor on the phone, didn't think anything of it until I realized I could also hear our boss in the office a few feet away responding on their phone. It cracked me up, but I also got why she was doing it, because she needed to reference something on her computer and this wasn't the kind of boss you called over to your desk. 

I do miss being able to get up and pop into my bosses office to ask a quick question. Now I have to check his schedule to make sure he's not in a meeting, then go on our office's messaging system to see if his little green dot is on, and then as soon as I hit send on my question I watch that green dot turn red because he's not at his desk. It was so much easier to lean back in my chair and see that he was in there and not on the phone. 

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4 hours ago, meep.meep said:

It's good to get up and move around.  It's good to have actual personal connections with the people you work with.   They might give you a cookie.

My coworkers were interrupting me every 5-10 minutes, to the point I couldn't even finish the projects I was working on that they were barging in to ask me about. I actually liked them as people, but I would have given them the finger before I gave them a cookie. LOL 

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Ugh, I saw it again last night. one of my pet peeves.  People digging a grave (or a hole to hide anything) and they dig a perfect rectangle.  Not just a big oval like people in real life do, but a large rectangle.  Gotta get those corners perfect!  (This was on Ozark.  You'd think by now the characters would know that a rectangle takes too much effort.)

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57 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Ugh, I saw it again last night. one of my pet peeves.  People digging a grave (or a hole to hide anything) and they dig a perfect rectangle.  Not just a big oval like people in real life do, but a large rectangle.  Gotta get those corners perfect!  (This was on Ozark.  You'd think by now the characters would know that a rectangle takes too much effort.)

It's also relatively easy and doesn't actually take that much time. One of the best jokes about that trope was in the Netflix show Dead to me. The two main characters had to dig a grave and it basically took them a whole night. And their bodies were super sore the next day.

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My favorite pop culture take on digging graves is in Casino when Joe Pesci makes a casual reference in the narration to the matter. 

"A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night."

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On 1/4/2022 at 4:27 PM, Rootbeer said:

What is particularly interesting is that virtually every time, the character acts as if she had NO IDEA whatsover that she might even be pregnant.  That there were no other possible physical signs which if present (or ABSENT) might've given her a clue that she was pregnant prior to hitting the dirt and being told by an ER doc.  Too bad women don't have a regular physiologic event that comes at intervals that, if it didn't come, might cause them to realize they are pregnant.

Well, TV usually pairs it with the woman being so stressed out or distracted by XYZ that she doesn't even realize that she missed her period, or even if she does, chalks it up to the above-mentioned stress.

I thought General Hospital did this pretty well with Laura--she didn't faint, but she complained about feeling exhausted and weepy all the time. Only when she remembered that the last time she felt like this was the first time she was pregnant did she realize she was pregnant again.

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20 hours ago, Dr.OO7 said:

Well, TV usually pairs it with the woman being so stressed out or distracted by XYZ that she doesn't even realize that she missed her period, or even she does, chalks it up to the above-mentioned stress.

I thought General Hospital did this pretty well with Laura--she didn't faint, but she complained about feeling exhausted and weepy all the time. Only when she remembered that the last time she felt like this was the first time she was pregnant did she realize she was pregnant again.

 

Or sometimes women have irregular periods anyway or have a little breakthrough bleeding. 

It does happen in real life.  My sister was about 18 weeks gone with her third kid before she realized it. 

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My sisters on the other hand would reach about day 21 after conception, their skin tone would become pea green/gray-ish, they would start nibbling saltines nonstop to deal with nausea, and there was no need for an early pregnancy test.  

Topic?  Women in law enforcement don't dress like they do on TV  - the high heels, the low cut shirts/dresses, dangling earrings, long hair flying free.  You cannot catch the bad guy while you're running in your 4 inch heels as your boobs fly out of your shirt and most bad guys will rip those earrings out along with your hair as you attempt to take them into custody.  

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My favorite line from tv shows that absolutely doesn't happen is real life is, "you should go and tell him/her how you feel". Of course they do and everyone lives happily ever after.

I really do wish this happened in real life. Of course YMMV.

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On 2/24/2022 at 8:50 PM, juno said:

My favorite line from tv shows that absolutely doesn't happen is real life is, "you should go and tell him/her how you feel". Of course they do and everyone lives happily ever after.

I really do wish this happened in real life. Of course YMMV.

Or the obverse- people in real life never tell you about how they feel about you. Especially your boss, your co-workers, people you have acquaintances with, maybe even your own family and friends (though hopefully not). Which I understand- it's more about not ruffling feathers and deciding it's worth more to "get along" than to risk a dramatic rift, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating.

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I’ve always been glad to live in Texas where I don’t ever wear a coat because I would be scared of what would happen to it being left on a bed at a party. At best, someone takes a nap on the pile of coats. At worst, a couple will decide to have sex on it.

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1 hour ago, kariyaki said:

I’ve always been glad to live in Texas where I don’t ever wear a coat because I would be scared of what would happen to it being left on a bed at a party. At best, someone takes a nap on the pile of coats. At worst, a couple will decide to have sex on it.

So that's why my father never takes his coat off at parties!!!!! I just assumed he was always cold. 

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9 hours ago, Shannon L. said:

I don't really believe that gangsters and detectives talked in real life like they do in old movies (especially detectives in film noire movies).

My guess is that Hollywood mobsters talk like they do because they're modelled after the Mafia. The Mafia has its roots in southern Italy, where the accent is much thicker than it is in the northern half of Italy, so the thick accent became a part of the Hollywood mobster model.

As for the detectives...they were probably heavy smokers and heavy drinkers in their day, and that kind of habit is going to leave their voices gravelly. Since drinking and smoking get associated with stress, my guess is that Hollywood kept the gravelly voice as a part of the detective image probably to emphasize the toll the job has had on the detective over the years.

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There is a whole lot of drama about student high school elections in tv shows.  Rigged elections, teachers and others getting involved, campaigns, speeches. 

I dont recall any of that in high school elections. In fact I couldn't tell you who won or ran for class president.  Outside the people running no one cared. 

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It was the same at my school.  I honestly couldn't even swear we had student government; I assume we did, but I don't remember a single member, debate, campaign, etc.  Maybe a vague memory of some "Vote for So-and-So" posters in the halls?  I certainly don't remember student council having the slightest impact on our school.

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6 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

There is a whole lot of drama about student high school elections in tv shows.  Rigged elections, teachers and others getting involved, campaigns, speeches. 

I dont recall any of that in high school elections. In fact I couldn't tell you who won or ran for class president.  Outside the people running no one cared. 

I remember we had an assembly each year where we got to know those running for student council. Some candidates put on a show. I actually ran one year against my brother. He recruited some people to put on a show and I blasted for it in my speech. Then he won.

One other year, I ran for council and I was the only one not voted in. The teacher who advised student council asked me to join anyway. So I did.

Most of the time, though, student council did nothing. I believe the only thing we really did was put on dances and that was it. We were supposed to be "the voice of the students" for the administration to listen to but I don't recall a single thing council advocated for, let alone advocated for and the school actually listened to the proposal.  Maybe it's because our students didn't know or grasp the role student council actually had, which robbed council of its teeth.

The one year my brother was on the council he told me he was treated like a "fifth wheel" (our council had five members), with the teacher and her four friends forming an air-tight clique. I don't believe they accomplished anything of note. They didn't even stop the school from adopting school uniforms the next year.

I think about this and I extend it further- in my university days, our student council was also similarly useless. We saw posters, some campaigned but could I name even one thing our university student council accomplished?

Small wonder council elections had such poor voter turnout. Why would anyone want to vote for candidates who are useless?

(Yes I know someone will snark, "but people do that in national elections!" Voter turnout tends to be low there too, and I think we like at least pretending that when we vote nationally we'll vote for people who won't be useless even though we're let down all the time. Plus national politicians pass laws that do affect us, so I guess at least some of us feel obliged to vote nationally because of it)

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14 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

There is a whole lot of drama about student high school elections in tv shows.  Rigged elections, teachers and others getting involved, campaigns, speeches. 

I dont recall any of that in high school elections. In fact I couldn't tell you who won or ran for class president.  Outside the people running no one cared. 

I don't even know if this is true because obviously he would have been a minor at the time, so his name wouldn't have publicized.  But, it was going around school that this one kid got arrested for robbing a gas station. I'm going to assume he wasn't armed, even in the rumor.  Someone nominated him for class treasurer as a joke and he won.

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at my school we had a "convention day" around all the nominations for class elections.   It was put on by the Civics teacher and was a BIG DEAL to be a delegate because you got out of class all day.   The idea was to teach us about, well, how political conventions work.   

But that was all the drama that was involved.   You pretty much knew who was going to run and who was going to be elected because it was all a freaking popularity contest anyway.   No teachers hiding votes for the kid the students REALLY wanted but the teacher hated, no tearing down of rival's posters, etc.   

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My freshman year, a friend ran for one of the lesser class offices, and she and a guy she barely knew became very competitive (just about each other, as they had no chance of winning) and did tear down or deface some of each other's posters.  They later had a running joke about which one of them finished last in the vote out of the four candidates and would refer to it when signing each other's yearbooks.

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The only school election drama I was ever involved in was a big nothingburger. It was in college, and they were circulating some petition for this girl to run as president. She was one of the golden children at the college, as was her entire family. I didn't dislike her, per se, but I was so sick of them and everyone kissing their asses, as was one of my friends. It was pretty obvious she was going to win in a landslide. So, when someone handed us the petition to sign, we refused to do so so, and it created some mini drama of the "How could you not want her to run?!" variety. Feelings were hurt, my friend and I still refused to sign the petition, and nobody ever mentioned it again. LOL 

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There was never any election drama I can remember back in High School.  Student council was always that one small group of Type-A girls, the ones who excelled academically and athletically, and maybe an occasional other person from time to time.  No one else ever really cared.

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I honestly have no idea if we had a school council in HS. I had a relatively benign HS history; I still go to reunions and keep up with friends. I was active in extra activities too - band, sports, math, etc., so you'd think I would have heard about it once and a while. 

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5 hours ago, Lugal said:

No one else ever really cared.

Basically this describes almost everything about my high school.  We were called out, constantly, as being apathetic - and those doing the calling out were absolutely right.  I remember when I read Beverly Clearly's autobiography she talked about winning several prizes for writing when she was a child and she said the reason she won in most cases was because it turned out she was the only entry.  This pretty much describes my high school.  Kids got on committes or school council because the kids who wanted to do that stuff went ahead and did it and the rest of the 1000 or so kids at my school just said "whatever" and went home and didn't do our homework.  

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3 minutes ago, SusannahM said:

Basically this describes almost everything about my high school.  We were called out, constantly, as being apathetic - and those doing the calling out were absolutely right.  I remember when I read Beverly Clearly's autobiography she talked about winning several prizes for writing when she was a child and she said the reason she won in most cases was because it turned out she was the only entry.  This pretty much describes my high school.  Kids got on committes or school council because the kids who wanted to do that stuff went ahead and did it and the rest of the 1000 or so kids at my school just said "whatever" and went home and didn't do our homework.  

Not sure how old you are but Gen x attitude. 

Completely agree. 

And it still applies where I work. Voting on the board members for our big group, Basically its the people who care and want the job. 

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Student council was essentially a popularity contest at my high school. I remember being disappointed when I wasn’t picked (and subsequently never getting on homecoming court or prom court and not being allowed to be on color guard or any of the other “popular” activities). 

Of course I am in my mid 30s now and don’t care anymore. I wish someone had reminded me how most of that stuff would never matter. 

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I was in student government in the 8th grade all we really did was hang posters and decide whether dances were going to be theme or not.  We decorated the gym and were suppose to provide drinks and snacks. The latter we usually forgot. The teacher yelled at us for forgetting. Its almost like putting twelve and thirteen year old in charge of that was a bad idea. 

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School awards, school council positions...they wind up just being stuff to pad a resume with, and I wonder how much, even then, that matters. No one will hire their next CEO based on the fact he was his high school's student council president in his senior year.

This isn't to say that those who wanted and/or achieved those awards that their efforts had no value. I'm sure, in the moment at least, they're great personal achievements and a wonderful "feel-good" moment.

They're just not the life-altering events Hollywood makes it seem. Hollywood makes it seem like you should be crushed if you don't get named the homecoming queen or class president. I get that the topic is great fodder when coming up with episode ideas, but Hollywood can skew the perspective.

I remember at my 8th grade graduation one of the awards was a computer proficiency award. I was certain I was going to get it. I had the butterflies when the teacher who was presenting the award came up and made the speech that built up to the award. Halfway through the speech, the teacher let slip a detail that told me I wasn't going to win. I was devastated. I remember one of my idiot classmates looking me in the eye at that moment and laughing in my face as I was trying not to cry.

Definitely not one of my fonder memories...but, for what it's worth, I believe between myself, the idiot and the actual winner I was the only one who actually graduated from university. I wish someone had told me then that, while it's OK to be sad, don't dwell on it since you've got bigger fish to fry later in life, because that would be correct.

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No one will hire their next CEO based on the fact he was his high school's student council president in his senior year.

More for college applications than anything else, though it's just one of many extracurricular activities that you can add. We had lots of people in my school who weren't involved in student council but were involved in other activities (academic and/or athletic) that got into good schools. Granted, this was in the mid-90s, so who knows how things are.

Our student council/government was pretty decent at my school, which was an overseas school which followed the American curriculum. Elections wasn't super competitive, but most people did vote for it. People put posters up, but our high school was less than 400 people so you pretty much knew all of the people running anyway. They did a lot of organizing school events, social and other wise, some dances and parties, helping out with the Thanksgiving luncheon, Valentine carnations, running the student store (it basically sold school supplies and snacks), spirit week, International Day, etc. You had the 4 main positions open to people from any grade (president, vice president, treasurer, and secretary), plus each grade had 3 elected representatives who would also organize social events just for that individual grade. Occasionally they would take things up with the administration on our behalf. Overall most people at least appreciated our student council/government,

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2 hours ago, Hiyo said:

More for college applications than anything else, though it's just one of many extracurricular activities that you can add. We had lots of people in my school who weren't involved in student council but were involved in other activities (academic and/or athletic) that got into good schools. Granted, this was in the mid-90s, so who knows how things are.

I forgot...I'm Canadian. At least when I applied to university- which was around when you did- our universities didn't seem to care about extracurricular activities, they just cared about grades. I do believe you could use extracurricular activities to make a case for yourself if your grades were not up to snuff and maybe there were awards and grants for certain extracurricular achievements but I don't recall those activities to being vital for admission to post-secondary education.

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3 hours ago, Danielg342 said:

I forgot...I'm Canadian. At least when I applied to university- which was around when you did- our universities didn't seem to care about extracurricular activities, they just cared about grades. I do believe you could use extracurricular activities to make a case for yourself if your grades were not up to snuff and maybe there were awards and grants for certain extracurricular achievements but I don't recall those activities to being vital for admission to post-secondary education.

It actually does make a difference when it’s a college with more applicants than slots to admit new students. So when it comes to picking them, if there’s a choice between someone with good grades but no extracurriculars and someone with good grades but lots of extracurriculars, that latter one will get picked.

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Only on TV do siblings with several years between them act like they did everything together in school, and as kids.

I'm mainly thinking of Frasier and Niles. Not sure why, but I think there is a 4 or 5 year age difference.  Yet, when they talk about being in school, it seems like they're together all the time.  I was a freshman when my sister was a senior and our paths never crossed (not literally, I did see her in the hallway a couple of times, but you know what I mean).  The Crane brothers mysteries doesn't bother me that much, but the school stuff does.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Only on TV do siblings with several years between them act like they did everything together in school, and as kids.

I'm mainly thinking of Frasier and Niles. Not sure why, but I think there is a 4 or 5 year age difference.  Yet, when they talk about being in school, it seems like they're together all the time.  I was a freshman when my sister was a senior and our paths never crossed (not literally, I did see her in the hallway a couple of times, but you know what I mean).  The Crane brothers mysteries doesn't bother me that much, but the school stuff does.

 

 

I was a year behind my older brother in school.  I only had one year where I actually saw him throughout the day, and that was because were went to Catholic school where 7th and 8th grade shared the same teachers.  Even then, all we did was walk by each other in the hall.  The three years we were in the same building in high school, I only saw him when he drove us to school and when leaving.  

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2 hours ago, Katy M said:

Only on TV do siblings with several years between them act like they did everything together in school, and as kids.

I'm mainly thinking of Frasier and Niles. Not sure why, but I think there is a 4 or 5 year age difference.  Yet, when they talk about being in school, it seems like they're together all the time.  I was a freshman when my sister was a senior and our paths never crossed (not literally, I did see her in the hallway a couple of times, but you know what I mean).  The Crane brothers mysteries doesn't bother me that much, but the school stuff does.

 

 

I thought they were only a few years apart. And no one else liked  them so it works there. 

But others yes you're right. 

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They also went to a prep school, so I don't know if the setup is a little different there from a public school? 

But yeah, my sister and I are about 3 1/2 years apart in age and we went to school together at times, and I don't remember interacting much with her throughout the day, either. At most, we were able to talk at home about some of the teachers we may have shared :p. 

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I saw my sister regularly. It was a very small school, she was only in the next year down, and we had many of the same friends. While I don't actually remember talking to her much during school hours, I'm sure she was there.

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Well...

I have a twin brother, so that means we actually were in the same grade every year. We also went to the same university and shared a dorm room together, spending the same amount of time to complete our degrees. We stayed in that dorm room every year except one, where I got a room by myself, and except for my last semester of high school, we both went to the same school for our entire schooling careers.

...and, while we hung out quite a bit, we did not do everything together. We each had our own separate lives and most of the time we even had separate classes, aided by the fact we were pursuing different degrees (I have a history degree, he has a math degree).

So if anyone should have followed the Hollywood archetype of high school life with siblings, it should have been my brother and I, and yet we...didn't.

In fact, now that we're sharing an apartment, we're spending far more time together than we did at school. The pandemic didn't help, since it took away our jobs outside of the house, but I also think we're just simply at the stage of our lives where we appreciate each other's company a bit more. At the same time you're doing your schooling, you are also typically trying to find "who you are" and establish yourself as your eventual "grown up" self so you more fiercely guard your independence.

So, for better or for worse, you cast away your family because, well, you want to be you. Once you're there and you realize you need support, that's when you start to see the true value of family and friends.

My only guess as to why Hollywood makes siblings hang out far more often in school than they would in reality is probably down to logistics. For cost purposes and even storytelling purposes, less usually is more so even if it's not realistic for that group of people to spend as much time together as they do, it's just easier to make them do so. For a thirty minute sitcom or even an hour long drama, would it make sense to hire 30 or 40 actors to have enough characters for each of the main characters to have a complete circle of friends, acquaintances, classmates, work buddies, etc.? I don't think too many producers would say "yes" to that, and I'm not sure audiences would like it either. Too many characters makes the story that much harder to follow, if not impossible.

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I was out and about the other day, and happened to walk past a doctor. What made her a doctor? First, she was wearing blue scrubs. Promising sign, right? Second, we were both right outside a local hospital. Big hint in the right direction. But why do I think she was a doctor instead of nurse? She had a stethoscope around her neck! The universal sign of being a doctor!

I would have accepted her wearing a lab coat, but the day was a little too warm for that.

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Speaking of wearing things:  Apparently, people who live in cooler climates have several different jackets (which tend to be expensive).  It doesn't matter how much money they make--unless the show's premise is specifically about the struggles of a lower income family, the characters seem to have a different jacket for every day of the week and then some.  I grew up in Vermont, in a middle class family (money was tight, but we were ok), and I only remember having two winter jackets--one for everyday and a nice one. 

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1 minute ago, Shannon L. said:

Speaking of wearing things:  Apparently, people who live in cooler climates have several different jackets (which tend to be expensive). 

One of my secret addictions are the Hallmark Christmas movies and this is something you really notice with them.  The heroine arrives in town with one suitcase and manages to have packed within it at least 3 or 4 coats (and a fancy ball gown depending on the movie).  A Christmas miracle I guess.

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16 minutes ago, SusanM said:

One of my secret addictions are the Hallmark Christmas movies and this is something you really notice with them.  The heroine arrives in town with one suitcase and manages to have packed within it at least 3 or 4 coats (and a fancy ball gown depending on the movie).  A Christmas miracle I guess.

We've been working our way through Castle. While I'm sure that a NYC Homicide detective makes a good salary, I doubt that they make enough for all of the jackets that Beckett seems to own.  In each episode, she has yet a different, wonderful, and obviously expensive, jacket.  I've found myself waiting for the the new jacket in every episode.

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