Season 1-5 Discussion

[FoundTime]

I got a local PBS pledge drive after this ep also (and after Professor T), which I thought was spectacularly insensitive. I know I'm not the only person who has watched this show over its four seasons 80% for the incomparable Nicola Walker in this role, and to end this season and her run by prattling on about how YOU make series like this possible, oh please. I just want to quietly mourn the end of an era.

Interesting for a character to die because the family pulled the plug, though. You get that with the occasional American movie (The Descendants comes to mind), but rarely in a TV show, that I can recall. 

Hadn’t quite seen that exact resolution of the case coming, which is one of the things I appreciate about this show. I felt the final scenes with each of the suspects were also satisfying.

[JudyObscure]

1 hour ago, FoundTime said:

I got a local PBS pledge drive after this ep

So did my WOSU channel.  Some woman claiming to be teary eyed over the ending and telling us  we won't get this sort of great emotional re-action  over TV stuff if we don't pledge to PBS.  

I also liked the final scenes with all of them. Dean's speech about his remorse was so intense, I think it made all the coppers feel bad to lock him up.  I felt remorse myself for criticizing Cassie all season.  Was the surgeon saying she had a brain tumor for a while, pressing on things, making her not "think straight or see straight?"  Her poor father.

[seasons]

For what its worth, Wiki says Sanjeev has signed on for season 5.  I love him even more now. On the show and in real life! 

I'm watching this whole season over again. 

When Fran said the car thief said something about how she just seemed to pull out in front of him. I guess that fits with her being distracted and such. 

I'm hoping Fran is promoted to work with Sunny.

I hate when shows kill off beloved characters. 

 

We waited so long for season 4 - at least it felt like it! And now I'm still upset about it, even the next day. That is the sign of great writing, acting, directing, etc.

Edited August 16, 2021 by seasons

[seasons]

Wiki also has a great summary of each episode of each season. Lol but I am still confused by so many of the details of these stories. Confused in a good way though. Then it also mentions a remake of the show on ABC called "Suspects" but seemingly no involvement from cast or crew. We'll see.

[AZChristian]

46 minutes ago, seasons said:

For what its worth, Wiki says Sanjeev has signed on for season 5.  I love him even more now. On the show and in real life! 

I'm watching this whole season over again. 

I did a google search on Sanjeev and watched a lot of stuff he was in over the past month or so.  "The Indian Doctor" is fabulous.  His part in "Yesterday" was small (his real wife plays his movie wife), but the movie itself was joyful.

We watched the entire season yesterday before the final episode.  Gonna watch the final episode again today.

I had read spoilers and knew what was going to happen, but it hit me in the gut regardless.

[Kiddvideo]

1 hour ago, JudyObscure said:

Was the surgeon saying she had a brain tumor for a while, pressing on things, making her not "think straight or see straight?"

I didn't hear anything about a tumor. Just the subdural hematoma (the bruise/bleeding in her brain) that put too much pressure on the brain and caused so much damage she couldn't recover.

ETA: I was confused last night why they reunited Jerome with his uncle, but now I think it was a final good deed.

Edited August 16, 2021 by Kiddvideo

[EllaWycliffe]

I have to admit, I'm really not entirely clear why the body was hidden in a freezer for thirty years, or who did what to who.... the three guys Fogarty, Ram and Dean chased the victim, the vic tripped and hit his head, Dean decides to stab him in the head with a pen, Ram comes by and does cpr.... and then they decide to stuff the body in the car and never wonder where Fogarty disposed of it?

[sempervivum]

What I didn't understand was whether Ram blackmailed Dean into helping with the drug smuggling, or vice versa? Did Ram somehow know Dean had killed Walsh (I assume he didn't actually know about the pen stabbing)? Then he latched onto Dean as an accomplice in the drug smuggling because he knew about his criminal family connections? Or did Dean manipulate Ram's paranoia into believing he(Ram) would automatically be the prime suspect just due to his race, thus forcing him into abetting Dean's return to his criminal roots? 

I could buy the whole murder/coverup thing, I just didn't really know why the drug aspect was dragged in. Ram seemed (to me) to be an angry man who saw prejudice everywhere, but I couldn't understand why he would turn to crime. Also, he's shown to be respectful of life, so why would he not only fail to stand up for the victim, but also involve himself in the deadly drug trade?

Yes, I have a tendency to overthink things!

So glad that at least Sunny and crew will be back.

 

[AZChristian]

Okay.  Loose ends.  Found these questions on another discussion board, but am interested in input and comments from the very bright people here.  I've put my best guess at the end of each question.

• How did Rob Fogarty end up storing the body for years?
  REALLY big plot hole with no explanation that I'm aware of.  Rob was carted off for "drink driving" and - assumedly - was released the next day.  Did the others tell him, "Oh, Matt's body is still in the boot of your car.  Do something with that, will you?" . . . and they never asked him what he did?
• Who's idea was it for him to look after it and why did they trust him.
  Can't even begin to come up with an answer to that one.  Liz was so in control at all times, and she was the last one that the police knew had driven the car (after they arrested Rob).  No way was she going to jeopardize her career on the first night after they graduated.  
• Did they know Rob had died and then panicked about the body?
  Another good question.  I think they had lost touch with him and put it out of their minds.  What I can't fathom is how Rob would look at the freezer in his house and not decide to start hacking up the body and getting rid of it.  And to put the head and hands in a separate storage unit?  He had to have know that someday - when he died and stopped paying rent on the unit - those body parts would be discovered.  He must have been drunk all the time after the incident.
• If Dean hated his Mum why did he send her a Mother's Day card?
  He said something in his confession about trying to turn his life around.  He knew that his father was the primary instigator in the illegal activities.  Maybe he saw his Mom as a victim of that lifestyle as much as himself.
• Why did Ram's dad not talk to him?  
  Because he wasn't going to be a doctor or part of the family business.  But 30 years is a LONG time to give one of your kids the cold shoulder.
• Why did Ram not notice a pen in the skull when he was giving CPR?
  I think it was pushed all the way in.  Nothing would have been showing because hair would have covered the small end.  The x-ray seemed to show that it was the whole way in.  Once he got the nib of the pen through the skull, the rest would have been easy.

[EllaWycliffe]

I thought Ram's dad also wasn't speaking to him because Ram clearly had left the Sikh religion.

[geekgirl921]

Well, that was a gut punch even though I knew it was coming! I can't figure out Ram. On the one hand, I can see his point about bigotry and prejudice but I also think he used it as an excuse and to weasel out of trouble. However, he seemed to be very caring and sweet with his partner. 

[AZChristian]

Just now, geekgirl921 said:

I can't figure out Ram. On the one hand, I can see his point about bigotry and prejudice but I also think he used it as an excuse and to weasel out of trouble. 

What he never seemed to "get" was that he did NOT seem to get in trouble because of his race.  He was genuinely - on several occasions - guilty of bad behavior and got OUT of it because he pulled the race card.  As the one older female officer said, "We did not write him up (when he did something earlier) because we were just starting to recruit minority officers and my sergeant wrote up the report clearing him - because he was a minority."

He was pulling the race card right up to the end.  He was sure the others involved in Matt's murder would all point the finger at him, and they would be believed and he would not . . . just because of his color.  

[JudyObscure]

5 hours ago, AZChristian said:

His part in "Yesterday" was small (his real wife plays his movie wife), but the movie itself was joyful.

It was small but I thought he and his wife were hilarious.  It was my favorite scene in the (yes, joyful) film.

[JudyObscure]

6 minutes ago, Alistaire said:

All opportunity for real mystery was killed off by the writer/producer's fetish with ticking off every box in the social relevance department. Jezum Crow, is the BBC bo-R-ing.

I liked "Unforgotten" and I'm grateful for almost anything PBS gives me on Sunday Nights but I've noticed the heavy handed social relevance thing, too.  I just don't find it nearly as irritating in their contemporary offerings as I do in their Victorian period pieces where it's so laughably anachronistic.   I thought the worst season of "Unforgotten" for this was the one where a woman who had once been part of a violent, white supremacist  ring was now married to a black man.

[SoMuchTV]

21 minutes ago, Alistaire said:

Wow, what a finale. Before I begin, though-- I've stayed away from Primetimer for Unforgotten because (I thought) spoiler headings weren't needed and y'all had Passport. As I didn't want to know how it ended, I stayed alone but for one measly post. Logging on this moment, a blue banner is above this-here comment as I write it saying, "Spoiler tags are not required for this show, all episodes have officially aired. Read at your own risk." I won't be a grammar-gramma and point out that there is a comma-splice in that warning. 🤗. However, if it isn't true that the series--and all Masterpiece Mystery--can be discussed without spoiler tags, please someone tell me. I would dearly have liked to comment before this.

I watched all the seasons on Passport a few weeks ago, and I was surprised by how few people were commenting on the last season finale.  So apparently it didn't air on PBS until just now?  Mystery solved, I guess.  Unfortunately by the time very many people were ready to comment on it, I'd forgotten a lot of the details.

We've donated to our local public tv/radio for ages, but only recently set up the Passport app.  I don't remember exactly what we had to do, but apparently it was pretty simple - we were up and running within maybe 15-30 minutes.  It's not like we had to wait till the next business day so they could verify our donor status.  There must be some database the app can check against.

[Irlandesa]

I didn't like the "killing off the main character who was going to retire anyway" twist when I first read about it.  I still don't like it but it was better executed than I had thought it would be. 

I love this show but for whatever reason I had a hard time getting into this season. I watched on PBS instead of Passport but maybe I should have just binged it.  I think I forgot who is who by the time the next episode came around.

My PBS station was doing a pledge drive as well. I kind of laughed when I saw a teary PBS person trying to get people to donate after that.  It's not their fault that Unforgotten chose to end their season this way and they'd have to work around it--although if so many stations are having this pledge drive, perhaps PBS should have chosen a different show to air now or at least started the episodes a week or so later. 

@Alistaire, by the time this show gets to the US, spoiler boxes aren't really necessary because all the episodes have already aired---in the UK.  For us US-based folks, this thread is always going to be a little dangerous when it comes to being spoiled once the next season starts airing in the UK.

[sugarbaker design]

23 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

I didn't like the "killing off the main character who was going 

@Alistaire, by the time this show gets to the US, spoiler boxes aren't really necessary because all the episodes have already aired---in the UK.  For us US-based folks, this thread is always going to be a little dangerous when it comes to being spoiled once the next season starts airing in the UK.

Right, I watch on PBS's schedule, so I don't dare enter this thread until I've watched the entire season.

[geekgirl921]

2 hours ago, Alistaire said:

Oh, he definitely used it as an excuse and made no bones about it. It made his character maddeningly likable in a Bart Simpson way. As for his--or any other integral character's--partner, I honestly couldn't care less. All the script-time showered on "partners" could and would have been devoted to developing an actual, like, mystery if this were a Russell Lewis production.

See, now I like the time they spend with the families and partners. It makes the resolution bittersweet because we see what they have built and what they have to lose after all this time.

[peacheslatour]

I couldn't see how much that check that the housekeeper got from Liz. Did she pay her all the money she owed her?

[SunnyBeBe]

16 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I couldn't see how much that check that the housekeeper got from Liz. Did she pay her all the money she owed her?

I didn’t catch the amount either, but quickly saw what I thought said $10,000.   That’s not much, imo.  Full time caregivers make at least $1000.00 per week in the US.  

[AZChristian]

2 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I didn’t catch the amount either, but quickly saw what I thought said $10,000.   That’s not much, imo.  Full time caregivers make at least $1000.00 per week in the US.  

It was £10,000 . . . which is just under $14,000 in American dollars.  Given that the caregiver really only "demanded" enough to pay her past-due gas bill and a slight raise in pay, she may have seen that as payment for time past.  

I was disappointed that we didn't get to see Liz put that pillow over her mother's face.

[sugarbaker design]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I was disappointed that we didn't get to see Liz put that pillow over her mother's face.

You are not alone!

[Driad]

If Liz on Unforgotten and Jasper on Professor T could trade mothers, would they consider it an improvement?

Sanjeev Bhaskar's IMDB page  I'm enjoying watching him on Unforgettable and on The Indian Doctor.  Might try to find some other series he has done.

[susannot]

I have avoided this topic until now knowing that it contained spoilers.

 

I think Nicola Walker wants to do something else with her acting career.  Otherwise, why would she have been killed off in what seems like an abrupt and random way?  Especially after she had made her peace with her father?

Other than that, I liked the ending.  Sonny did as good a job as Cass would have done in solving the mystery and his final interviews with the suspects, especially Dean, were masterful.

 

I don't think that Ram, Fiona, and Liz will serve long prison sentences for failure to disclose the burial of a corpse which is what they were charged with IIRC.  I also don't think that Dean can be charged with first degree murder.  It will be tough for the prosecution to prove that the pen killed Matt as opposed to the fall.

 

I just wonder why none of them talked in the 30 years before the body was discovered.  Yes, the blue wall and the feeling against snitching, but it appears that each of them were eaten up by guilt.  It ruined each of their lives.

Edited August 17, 2021 by susannot

[janeta]

19 hours ago, AZChristian said:

It was £10,000 . . . which is just under $14,000 in American dollars.  Given that the caregiver really only "demanded" enough to pay her past-due gas bill and a slight raise in pay, she may have seen that as payment for time past.  

I was disappointed that we didn't get to see Liz put that pillow over her mother's face.

Yeah, I figured that was just a bonus, and that Liz would also give her a raise.  Or Liz's  wife, I guess, since Liz will be in jail….

[AZChristian]

31 minutes ago, janeta said:

Yeah, I figured that was just a bonus, and that Liz would also give her a raise.  Or Liz's  wife, I guess, since Liz will be in jail….

Did they ever have a chance to get married before she was arrested????  If not, the partner owes the caregiver nothing.  She won't even have to see Liz's obnoxious mother if Liz goes to jail.  

That's a plus for the partner.  

[krankydoodle]

21 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I was disappointed that we didn't get to see Liz put that pillow over her mother's face.

Along the same lines, did I miss it or did we not see any fallout from the situation with Fiona's horrible brother-in-law?

18 hours ago, susannot said:

I think Nicola Walker wants to do something else with her acting career. 

She's going to be playing a cop again in Annika. She's been voicing the character on the BBC Radio show for a few years now.

[Irlandesa]

Another TV show is unlikely to have interfered with doing another season of this show.  Since she started in Unforgotten,  she has worked on four other series/mini-series including The Split, Last Tango in Halifax, and Collateral. She also had River airing at the same time Unforgotten's first season was airing.

[novhappy]

On 8/16/2021 at 11:11 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

I have to admit, I'm really not entirely clear why the body was hidden in a freezer for thirty years, or who did what to who.... the three guys Fogarty, Ram and Dean chased the victim, the vic tripped and hit his head, Dean decides to stab him in the head with a pen, Ram comes by and does cpr.... and then they decide to stuff the body in the car and never wonder where Fogarty disposed of it?

I love this show but this! The actual crime made no sense to me. Why did they hide the body. They police trainees, surely savvy enough to make an anonymous 911 call if they didn’t want to be involved in explaining an accident- which they all thought it was. Except Dean obviously -did he convince them to hide the body? How did he convince them? And why were they all so traumatized by it? I don’t mean to be cold but they all believed it was an accident and they hid a dead body. “It’s ruined my whole life” more than one character said. 
Why was Dean able to blackmail Ram into helping him w cocaine smuggling?

they made Ram a complicated character, sexual harasser, race baiter, husband w pregnancy issues, the one person who did CPR on the victim, disliked by his father (never explained). But all that for nothing none of that really mattered  

I truly love this show but this plot was not great for me. Why not have made Dean the murderer as they did, but make each person KNOW he murdered and they covered up? Maybe each could have known but not known the others knew, thought they were the only one that knowingly covered up a murder. 
that would be traumatizing and “ruin a life”

maybe I didn’t watch carefully enough 

[Daff]

On 8/18/2021 at 10:53 AM, novhappy said:

I don’t mean to be cold but they all believed it was an accident and they hid a dead body. “It’s ruined my whole life” more than one character said. 

I agree, it was all quite hard to follow, even if you were listening carefully. However, I think you struck on the main point: every participant in the events of that tragic night was concerned ONLY with protecting his/her own butt (future, reputation, career, etc.). That became exceedingly clear as we watched a manic Fiona trying to explain past events to her terrified kids. 

[Me from ME]

Very late to the party. I had DVR'ed Season 4 and just got around to bingeing it this afternoon while awaiting Hurricane Henri.

Jackie Earl Haley  (as he was billed at the time)

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He was in the Original Bad News Bears. The kid that rode a minibike.

was a tragic character in Breaking Away.  I still love this movie. Dennis Quaid was one of the stars.

I wonder if Kate Winslet patterned her Mare character after Cassie. Both are real looking women, who doggedly solve murders, they are well respected, and wear flannel shirts.

Speaking of Cassie and John. I had to dig a little to confirm that it was indeed Alastair MacKenzie who played the role of John. It took a few scenes for me to recognize him, he certainly has aged well, is even more attractive than he was when he played the new Laird of Glenbogle,one of my all time favorite British tv series, Monarch of the Glen. He was the star of the show and left to pursue movie roles One of the other stars was Julian Fellowes who wrote the screenplay for Gosford Park between takes of Monarch.

[Bort]

A whole mess of off topic posts were removed. This topic isn’t for discussing anything but the tv show Unforgotten.

[EllaWycliffe]

On 8/18/2021 at 7:53 AM, novhappy said:

they made Ram a complicated character, sexual harasser, race baiter, husband w pregnancy issues, the one person who did CPR on the victim, disliked by his father (never explained). But all that for nothing none of that really mattered  

I think Ram was meant in some ways to contrast Sunny, who isn't a race baiter. I also think Ram was meant to show how racism effects everyone -Ram was dealing with a lot of racism, the reality that everybody remembered the "Asian" guy wasn't lost on me or how they termed it. The sexual harassing aspect? As a woman, who did work in a male dominated field for a bit, honestly this was not unusual and I have heard his sort of denials before, complete with how he was really the one being victimized because of his race. .

He did CPR because I think the point of Ram is that despite his flaws, he's basically a good person who wanted to do right. He became a cop to help people, he clearly wanted to take care of his family, and he was willing to bend with the wife/girlfriend (was never certain if they were married) over the baby possibly having Downs Syndrome. He was just a flawed man.

While not spelled out, I do think Ram's father had a big issue with Ram not keeping to the Sikh faith unlike the brother. The turbans and facial hair are religious, the brother and father were wearing them, and Ram was clean shaven and uncovered. We don't see a lot of Sikhs in the US but there are a lot in England and the writers might not have thought it needed to be explained.

[dcalley]

On 8/28/2021 at 10:54 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

the writers might not have thought it needed to be explained.

This show does think its viewers know things or at least can figure them out. I appreciate that, but it's also sent me to Google (actually DuckDuckGo) a few times. The only thing I can remember right now is RTA. I knew it meant a car crash, so it didn't affect my comprehension of the story--just got me wondering. (It's road traffic accident.)

I have to question Cassie's son being all chipper when getting a call from Sunny. I would think he'd immediately get a feeling of dread, thinking oh no, something's wrong with mum.

There are recaps and news items (in reverse chronological order) here: https://tellyvisions.org/tags/unforgotten

https://tellyvisions.org/2021/08/16/will-there-be-unforgotten-season-5 addresses plans for season 5.

[AZChristian]

Interesting article about possible successors to Nicola Walker.

"Who are the favourites for Unforgotten series 5?

According to online bookies Betfair, there are some stellar actresses already emerging as favourites to replace Nicola.

The current favourite is Keeping Faith star, Eve Myles, at 3/1.

Closely behind are Doctor Who actress Jodie Whittaker at 4/1 and former Emmerdale and Line Of Duty star Sian Reese-Williams at 6/1.

The likes of Suranne Jones, Katherine Kelly and Sarah Lancashire follow closely behind.

Angela Griffin and Keeley Hawes are also on the very impressive list of names."

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Way back when names were first being bandied about, there was an article that claimed to have a "hint" . . . and the producer was holding a script with the word "Faith" visible.  My mind immediately went to Eve Myles.

It would be weird to have Sarah Lancashire.  "Our Catherine" replacing "Our Jillian" (Last Tango in Halifax references).

It'll be interesting to see who wins!

 

[JudyObscure]

I vote for Sarah Lancashire because I love her and also because I don't know most of the others.  I like Keeley Hawes but I just can't picture her in the part.

[Kid]

I vote for Suranne Jones to replace Nicola Walker.    

I was devastated!!!!   I could not believe it - they killed Cassie.  The headliner!   The marvelous and wonderful Nicola Walker.  I was beside myself.  

I loved Nicola Walker in everything I’ve seen her in:  story arc in Scott and Bailey, lead in The Split, lead in Last Tango in Halifax.  And, I loved the character, Cassie - best at her job, had empathy, complex. I especially loved the relationship between Cassie and Sunny!!!   In four seasons, there was never a hint of romance between them as there is in many of these kinds of dramas.   The relationship was built on mutual respect and love.  They were so in tune as colleagues they could finish each other sentences.

And the only actress that I believe can come close to Nicola Walker is Suranne Jones.  I like Sarah Lancashire too but I cannot see a fit with the actor who plays Sunny.

Edited November 15, 2021 by Kid

[Milburn Stone]

I'd be happy with Suranne. Why I'd rather see Sunny take the top spot is more about the character than the actor. I feel like Sunny deserves it after being second-in-command so long! He's qualified, dammit!! Bringing in a new person over him is gonna be like, "What do I have to do to get this job? It's because I'm Indian, isn't it."

Edited November 15, 2021 by Milburn Stone

[dleighg]

13 hours ago, Kid said:

In four seasons, there was never a hint of romance between them as there is in many of these kinds of dramas.

well in one of them, as I recall, Sonny tried to give Cassie a kiss when they were having a heart to heart conversation that he misinterpreted as meaning something more than friendship. But she put a quick stop to that, and that was that.

[dleighg]

I'm late to the party; just finished season 4. My big question (which has nothing to do with the mystery) is what's going to happen to Cassie's sons? I mean, they are legally adults, and I gather that the elder one is self-sufficient. But isn't the younger one barely 21 and jobless? Did Cassie have a will? Will her half of the house go to the sons (outright- with no will, I imagine?) Awkward that she and John weren't married, so he doesn't really have a "place" in their lives.

I worry about weird stuff.

I don't understand why they had to kill her. She was clearly ready to give the job up in a few weeks. Then I wouldn't have to worry about her sons, LOL.

I thought the two male "perpetrators" were very interesting to watch-- complex human beings. I disliked Ram intensely, but he was interesting. I really liked Dean and was sorry he was the bad guy. I enjoyed them. The two female ones, not so much. 

[CharlizeCat]

Wow! What a list of contenders. It's hard to choose. Sarah might be out due to resuming "Happy Valley." I don't know if "Finding Faith" is continuing, but I don't see Eve Myles in that role, although I LOVE her! 

I agree that Sunny and Fran should be promoted. Then, the producers could find a lesser-known actress to play Fran's role. 

I like Sian in "Hidden" and heard it is coming back for another season. Yay! And Keeley is working on "Finding Alice," which I started watching but am having a hard time getting into it. But I like Keeley a lot. I'm watching her season in "Line of Duty" right now.

So, I guess if the producers want a new female DCI, I would choose Jodie or Suranne. Finally "Rachel Bailey" could get her long-awaited promotion!

[archer1267]

VERY late to the show here! I just discovered Unforgotten during the holiday break - and watched all four seasons during the past two weeks. We support our local PBS station, but between all the other platforms we have, it's easy to forget PBS when looking for a binge-able series. Now I wonder what else I've been missing : )  

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We've donated to our local public tv/radio for ages, but only recently set up the Passport app.  I don't remember exactly what we had to do, but apparently it was pretty simple - we were up and running within maybe 15-30 minutes

(In case anyone is wondering) - If you get the monthly viewing guide, there should be a four-word code on the mailing label. This was all I needed to set up my Passport account. 

Anyway! I was stunned that they knocked off Cassie, but am glad that they're still continuing the series. I'd tuned in for Nicola Walker (I became a fan after River) but found the other cast, especially Sunny, interesting enough to keep watching. The show reminded me of Hinterland in its moral ambiguity - sometimes the "villain" is more of a tragic figure with a not wholly unrelatable motive (avenging a daughter's rape, that kind of thing). Of course, Dr. Finch in Season 3 was a whole different cat.

I'm so used to the usual detective tropes (broken marriage, estranged children, possible drinking problem, had to leave former job due to misconduct, etc.) and it was refreshing to not see Cassie saddled with all that. Sure, she had challenges of being a single mother, dealing with an ailing dad, and trying to balance work demands with a new relationship, but they didn't feel like TV cliches, either.

 

[NotChristine]

Season 4 is now on Prime Video

[AZChristian]

Sinead Keenan to replace Nicola Walker for Season 5.

[Milburn Stone]

Sunny: Seriously, what do I have to do to get a promotion around here?

[EllaWycliffe]

2 hours ago, Milburn Stone said:

Sunny: Seriously, what do I have to do to get a promotion around here?

Twenty years from now on season 25, we find out that Sunny was the guy driving the car... complete with pensive flashbacks and a now older Sunny being all "and then I didn't even get the promotion!"

[Daff]

OT-Nicola Walker’s new project, Annika, is on Prime, but to see beyond episode one, you must subscribe to passport. Searched here, but there’s no discussion forum. It’s definitely intriguing, and, like Sunny in Unforgotten, her second is resentful that she’s been given the top job. 

[abbyzenn]

There was discussion of Annika in the Genre Talk, Detective and Mystery Shows.  While I thought the mysteries were fairly good, and the scenery was lovely, I didn't like the  technique of Annika talking to the audience.  I think Unforgotten is a much better show.

[One4Sorrow2TooBad]

Would love to see the series Annika, just don't have the channel Prime.😢 Nicola Walker looks like she's going to be great in the new season of The Split. 

[christie]

On 6/10/2022 at 3:34 AM, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

Would love to see the series Annika, just don't have the channel Prime.😢 Nicola Walker looks like she's going to be great in the new season of The Split. 

She was great in The Split. I wasn't really fond of Annika (the series, not the character). I didn't like her looking into the camera and talking to the viewers in Annika either. There were two scenes, I think, in The Split where she looks straight into the camera; the one was, obviously, a conscious choice by the director but I wasn't sure if the other one was a choice or a left over from Annika.