Josiah and Lauren: He Has To Marry Somebody

[Churchhoney]

Well, maybe Lauren got married to be on TeeVee and become one of the early-childbearer stars of her culture and to help her dad the mowing minister get the Duggar fame/money tree to plant a shoot in his backyard and Josiah got married to prove he's a very heterosexual male rarin' to make babies with a godly woman and somebody for whom those Alert visits really did the trick and because Jim Bob and Jessa really really really wanted another wedding for the next Season of LifeTLC. 

I can well believe that she's young and hungry enough to have done this and that Josiah's been warped enough by his upbringing to have done it. 

And if that's the case, they wouldn't act like they're drawn to each other because they aren't. They're drawn to TeeVee, approval, fame, money, vindication, being good Gothardites, etc......

While I do believe that most of the other marryers-in -- or their parents -- have ulterior motives, I also think that most of them have also been actually attracted to their Duggarling spouses in some way and to some degree, at least at the beginning. 

With these two, maybe it's all ulterior motive, and she's too young to realize it and he's too warped to realize it. 

Edited February 14, 2019 by Churchhoney

[PikaScrewChu]

How worldly are the Swansons? They obviously know that the Duggars are on the television but do they actually watch television and/or participate in pop culture?

Lauren's parents should take partial blame for this mess. We can go back to that Lauren is legally an adult and able to make her own decisions. However, they seem to have instilled in Lauren that a woman will be an old maid forever if she isn't married by the time she's 20. Plus they are social climbers, what with moving closer to the Duggars and all that. I don't think Lauren fully understood what marrying into the Duggars entailed, I think her parents did.

For what it's worth I feel the same about how the Seewalds sent their teenage son to the slaughter. I don't think Ben fully grasped what being a part of the Duggar borg meant. His parents did and they knowingly sent him off.

I truly wonder if anyone in the family feels like they can say "please keep this off the show" after the Dullards were written out though. The TLC giveth and the TLC taketh away.

[Churchhoney]

28 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

How worldly are the Swansons? They obviously know that the Duggars are on the television but do they actually watch television and/or participate in pop culture?

Lauren's parents should take partial blame for this mess. We can go back to that Lauren is legally an adult and able to make her own decisions. However, they seem to have instilled in Lauren that a woman will be an old maid forever if she isn't married by the time she's 20. Plus they are social climbers, what with moving closer to the Duggars and all that. I don't think Lauren fully understood what marrying into the Duggars entailed, I think her parents did.

For what it's worth I feel the same about how the Seewalds sent their teenage son to the slaughter. I don't think Ben fully grasped what being a part of the Duggar borg meant. His parents did and they knowingly sent him off.

I truly wonder if anyone in the family feels like they can say "please keep this off the show" after the Dullards were written out though. The TLC giveth and the TLC taketh away.

Well, Dad clearly wants to be a fundie-Christian media star. (just like Der, Bin and Jer -- and Kendra's dad, I might add --While Austin's dad, and maybe even Austin? They want to use the Duggar name to sell at least the camp and possibly their ideas.). 

There's no mistaking Swanson's ambition, given his website, seems to me.

https://embassymedia.com/speaker/dwain-swanson

I'd say his ambitions are fundie-wordly as all get out, actually.

The only one marryer-in for whom nobody may want this is Abbie. I think the Kellers were into marrying Gothard royalty back in the day -- and Anna kinda got into Joshley being a fundie powerbroker, I think. 

Edited February 14, 2019 by Churchhoney

[galaxychaser]

I really wonder if Lauren went to the doctor to verify her pregnancy/miscarrige.  Or did she or Jilly Muffin diagnose her? I really hope she saw a real doctor and is recovering well.

Either way I feel bad for her because her hubby looks at her like she got a communal deasease.  I doubt he LOVES her with all his heart.  Hubby always got a pained look on his face or maybe he is constipated?

[bythelake]

Oh yeah! I went down the rabbit hole and viewed his website. He mentors 150 men while on his mower, and in turn the men have started mentoring others. So,this is going to be big!!!

There is a long list of speakers named, although I can’t make the connection between the speakers and the lawnmowers,unless the men listen to tapes of the speakers or congregate somewhere ( without the lawnmowers.)

Amomg those named as speakers are the Duggars, Bates,and many IBLP big shots including Bill Gothard. Some of the men are lawyers or respected businessmen who apparently are drinking the KoolAid.

But, I’ve saved the best  for last. Anna Duggar and sister Priscilla together are listed as speakers. What I’d give to hear those two.

Lauren’s father is becoming mini Duggar.

[louannems]

4 hours ago, bythelake said:

Oh yeah! I went down the rabbit hole and viewed his website. He mentors 150 men while on his mower, and in turn the men have started mentoring others. So,this is going to be big!!!

There is a long list of speakers named, although I can’t make the connection between the speakers and the lawnmowers,unless the men listen to tapes of the speakers or congregate somewhere ( without the lawnmowers.)

Amomg those named as speakers are the Duggars, Bates,and many IBLP big shots including Bill Gothard. Some of the men are lawyers or respected businessmen who apparently are drinking the KoolAid.

But, I’ve saved the best  for last. Anna Duggar and sister Priscilla together are listed as speakers. What I’d give to hear those two.

Lauren’s father is becoming mini Duggar.

When I need true entertainment, I go to YouTube and search for Priscilla Waller.  Especially the video she made with Michelle Duggar!!!

[Sew Sumi]

That video with Mechelle was paaaaainful! 

[Lunera]

https://m.facebook.com/countingontlc/posts/2578664085693470

Josiah and Lauren talk about being newlyweds 

[BitterApple]

Ewwww, Dwain leering down at Si and Lauren as they shared their first kiss was disgusting. He was so close he was practically joining in.

Si's too busy with work to help with household chores? Really? And how dirty can a house with two adults and no children or pets possible be? 

[DangerousMinds]

2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Ewwww, Dwain leering down at Si and Lauren as they shared their first kiss was disgusting. He was so close he was practically joining in.

Si's too busy with work to help with household chores? Really? And how dirty can a house with two adults and no children or pets possible be? 

What “work?”

[galaxychaser]

4 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

What “work?”

The only work they do is to create army for Jesus.

[ginger90]

[Churchhoney]

8 hours ago, Lunera said:

https://m.facebook.com/countingontlc/posts/2578664085693470

Josiah and Lauren talk about being newlyweds 

Sickening. 

Her disgusting father, the audience whooping at the kiss. A married guy declaring that it was exciting to be alone with his spouse for the first time EVER after the damn wedding. 

And she stays home all day, no kid, no job, no classes, not even a pet -- and she fails to get chores done because her sisters aren't helping her do them? What? 

And clearly Jer used to throw his socks on the floor, and Joe's a plate-licking slob. And, no shit, Jessa, it was no adjustment for you to live with Bin? Really? How surprising. Not. Because that's the way it is when the other person is the one who has to do all the accommodating.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Did a Duggar make a post about loving a family member without including God? And thanking Lauren for choosing him rather than God sending/giving her to him?

Damn, Josiah may just be the most "woke" Duggar child (obviously, the bar is set low.....but I'm impressed).

Edited February 15, 2019 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Churchhoney]

6 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Did a Duggar make a post about loving a family member without including God? And thanking Lauren for choosing him rather than God sending/giving her to him?

Damn, Josiah may just be the most "woke" Duggar child (obviously, the bar is set low, but I'm impressed).

Do they take married guys at Alert? Cuz he may have to go back! 

[Zella]

Josiah's message to her sounds like it is an attempt to answer all the questions and criticism about how cold he seems to her. To me, it still seems pretty hollow, impersonal, and robotic. It's just a laundry list of trite things people say about their spouses. There's still nothing in their individual to Lauren. 

[Churchhoney]

41 minutes ago, Zella said:

Josiah's message to her sounds like it is an attempt to answer all the questions and criticism about how cold he seems to her. To me, it still seems pretty hollow, impersonal, and robotic. It's just a laundry list of trite things people say about their spouses. There's still nothing in their individual to Lauren. 

I think the Duggars all speak a language of their own.

It's not English. It's "AlaundrylistoftritethingspeoplesayaboutX".....

[Zella]

1 minute ago, Churchhoney said:

I think the Duggars all speak a language of their own.

It's not English. It's "AlaundrylistoftritethingspeoplesayaboutX".....

Exactly! Even in the realm of fundamentalism, which is replete with laundry lists of trite things, it stands out. 

[graefin]

44 minutes ago, Zella said:

To me, it still seems pretty hollow, impersonal, and robotic.

Guess he takes after his mom?

[PikaScrewChu]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

Josiah's message to her sounds like it is an attempt to answer all the questions and criticism about how cold he seems to her. To me, it still seems pretty hollow, impersonal, and robotic. It's just a laundry list of trite things people say about their spouses. There's still nothing in their individual to Lauren. 

I feel like it would come off as insincere anyways but come on. Speak to something about her individuality. Unless the Swansons beat the idea of individuality out of her too.

[MamaMax]

On 2/13/2019 at 5:36 PM, Christina87 said:

I'm a Christian and definitely believe it's possible that these super early term pregnancies go to heaven, as they are a life. I've always imagined them turning into children and playing with each other until they get the chance to know their parents, by that's just my wishful thinking. I don't presume to know, but the Duggars think they know everything, and could never be wrong. I also think they clearly don't differentiate between a six-week-old fetus and an 95-year-old man. They're both equal to them, while most of us would consider them very different things. The fetus was not old enough to feel pain, so while it is sad, it's not the same as delivering a preemie who may suffer, or losing your five-year-old in a painful accident. I have no qualms with them looking forward to meeting their child in heaven, but the way they turn everything so preachy turns me off. 

To me, it's a totally consistent belief. Duggars (and lots of Christian denominations) believe that God endows a soul upon the "person" at the time of conception. If you believe this, its easy to understand not only why abortion would be forbidden, but it wouldn't be silly or stupid to think you will "see" (or rather, be with) the child's soul in Heaven. We do not go bodily to Heaven, our souls go.  

[Marigold]

Lauren is gluten-free. Does she have celiac disease?

Just tossing out some thoughts:

I don't have any medical articles to confirm but I do know that a few of my friends with celiac disease have frequent miscarriages.  Celiac is an auto-immune disorder.  Maybe Lauren went to the OB after the miscarriage and got some more information?  She looked very upset...seems she is not pregnant again? 

I have had numerous miscarriages (and also a large family). Lauren is a wacky but I do feel for her. 

[BitterApple]

I think Lauren was gluten free because it was trendy at the time. When Si recycled Duggar leftovers into a date-night meal, Lauren ate a flour tortilla. I'm assuming that if she had a medical condition she'd by super conscious about that sort of thing. 

[OpieTaylor]

19 hours ago, Lunera said:

https://m.facebook.com/countingontlc/posts/2578664085693470

Josiah and Lauren talk about being newlyweds 

Their interchange about the “unnecessary” coffee pot (per Josiah) seemed especially tense - Josiah said it’s just collecting dust because neither drink coffee. Lauren retorted that it’s for guests. Why of all things would Josiah seemingly criticize Lauren for displaying it? 

[Churchhoney]

3 minutes ago, Marigold said:

Lauren is gluten-free. Does she have celiac disease?

Just tossing out some thoughts:

I don't have any medical articles to confirm but I do know that a few of my friends with celiac disease have frequent miscarriages.  Celiac is an auto-immune disorder.  Maybe Lauren went to the OB after the miscarriage and got some more information?  She looked very upset...seems she is not pregnant again? 

I have had numerous miscarriages (and also a large family). Lauren is a wacky but I do feel for her. 

I hope she doesn't have celiac and she's just going with the fad. 

That's an awful disease, and it's very rough when you have kids. Because it's hereditary, you have to go through a big rigmarole to check out if each child has it as the kid comes along. And if mom or dad has to really be on the full-blown celiac diet it's pretty hellish for the chief cook in the family. Because kids aren't going to love that diet, and they'll quickly see it's not like what other people eat so there can be a lot of disgruntlement. 

A good friend of mine came close to death before he was diagnosed, and shopping for food at their house is difficult. ... On the bright side, it's simple to make their kids happy when they come to your house. Just hand them one slice of pizza or one real cookie with flour in  it and they're ecstatic. 

[Marigold]

3 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I think Lauren was gluten free because it was trendy at the time. When Si recycled Duggar leftovers into a date-night meal, Lauren ate a flour tortilla. I'm assuming that if she had a medical condition she'd by super conscious about that sort of thing. 

How could I forget the tortilla that all the Duggars picked through and nibbled on...maybe I just blocked it out like a horror film. 

[Temperance]

There are different kinds and levels of allergies.

Lauren has never claimed to be celiac, which is (to the best of my knowledge) an autoimmune disease that is triggered by a gluten allergy.

She claims that she is allergic to gluten to what degree I'm not sure. Some people can foods they are allergic to in small quantities, others need to avoid the food altogether.

[awaken]

How did she “choose” him when he did all the pursuing, asking to court, etc and she just acquiesced?  And at the time, she said she was totally surprised!  

Edited February 16, 2019 by awaken

[luvbadtv]

16 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I hope she doesn't have celiac and she's just going with the fad. 

That's an awful disease, and it's very rough when you have kids. Because it's hereditary, you have to go through a big rigmarole to check out if each child has it as the kid comes along. And if mom or dad has to really be on the full-blown celiac diet it's pretty hellish for the chief cook in the family. Because kids aren't going to love that diet, and they'll quickly see it's not like what other people eat so there can be a lot of disgruntlement. 

A good friend of mine came close to death before he was diagnosed, and shopping for food at their house is difficult. ... On the bright side, it's simple to make their kids happy when they come to your house. Just hand them one slice of pizza or one real cookie with flour in  it and they're ecstatic. 

Not to veer off topic, but my adult child has Celiac Disease, and I am gluten intolerant.  It is not that hard to shop for and cook gluten free food.  You could serve a child a gluten free diet, and they wouldn't even know it.

I think Lauren is gluten intolerant, but not Celiac and not just gluten free for fun.  I will be watching closely to see how she manages this in the Duggar chaos.  I personally would bring my own food to every gathering.  

[Churchhoney]

4 hours ago, luvbadtv said:

Not to veer off topic, but my adult child has Celiac Disease, and I am gluten intolerant.  It is not that hard to shop for and cook gluten free food.  You could serve a child a gluten free diet, and they wouldn't even know it.

I think Lauren is gluten intolerant, but not Celiac and not just gluten free for fun.  I will be watching closely to see how she manages this in the Duggar chaos.  I personally would bring my own food to every gathering.  

Yeah, good points. I'm thinking of a situation that began over 25 years ago in someone who has an extreme intolerance. Of course, there's tons more stuff that's gluten-free now. Back at the beginning of this drama there was very little, and certainly very little sold with the gluten-free fact made obvious-- and that was true for some years after his celiac was finally diagnosed. And most people who are sensitive to it aren't nearly as sensitive as my friend is....

If Lauren's particularly sensitive at all, though, she certainly ought to bring her own food to the Duggars, as you say. 

Of course I might bring my own food to the Duggars anyway. ;  )

Edited February 16, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Christina87]

5 hours ago, luvbadtv said:

Not to veer off topic, but my adult child has Celiac Disease, and I am gluten intolerant.  It is not that hard to shop for and cook gluten free food.  You could serve a child a gluten free diet, and they wouldn't even know it.

I think Lauren is gluten intolerant, but not Celiac and not just gluten free for fun.  I will be watching closely to see how she manages this in the Duggar chaos.  I personally would bring my own food to every gathering.  

I'm the same way. My mom is gluten intolerant, and I haven't noticed a huge difference with it, but it does help my stomach to feel better when I avoid it. I usually cook gluten free, but will splurge on food in a restaurant if there's no gluten free option. I've taken all kinds of cakes, cookies, brownies, breads, etc to parties that were gluten free, and no one could ever tell! I also LOVE gluten free pasta (probably more than regular pasta) and make it often. The only things I'm not happy with gluten free versions of are:

--Pie crusts (i've never found one in stores)

--Pizza crusts (usually thin and not as good)

--why the hell are there not gluten free cheez-it's?

--I love those Keebler M&M cookies, and there's nothing comparable

Seriously, besides those few things, I have no trouble recreating any experience that I had before GF!

On 2/15/2019 at 2:21 PM, MamaMax said:

To me, it's a totally consistent belief. Duggars (and lots of Christian denominations) believe that God endows a soul upon the "person" at the time of conception. If you believe this, its easy to understand not only why abortion would be forbidden, but it wouldn't be silly or stupid to think you will "see" (or rather, be with) the child's soul in Heaven. We do not go bodily to Heaven, our souls go.  

I agree. And not to be political, but I honestly think it's a comforting thought no matter whether you are pro-life or pro-choice. At least the aborted babies would be going to heaven, instead of being completely dead. 

[DangerousMinds]

I don't view a clump of cells that could eventually grow into a baby as an actual baby, so it's not an issue for me. YMMV.

[queenanne]

It's possible that Lauren doesn't yet know what is wrong with her, just that she has "a tender stomach" in some way, shape, or form.  I myself often had intestinal problems for decades, and asked to be tested multiple times for Crohn's, celiac, endometriosis, etc., after wolfing probiotics and cal-mag until the cows came home... or went away, as I also briefly flirted with the possibility that I was lactose intolerant... after enormous amounts of trial and error, it seems that I was having consistent intestinal problems because of my gastritis; or, at the very least, that my bowels regulate themselves with a daily acid reducer de facto pushing the acid buildup out (sorry for TMI but if it helps one other person, I would feel it's worth it!). 

[Marigold]

I googled around about Lauren and Celiac.

On Reddit someone posted that Lauren was cramping and thought that she had something with gluten.

So maybe she really does have celiac?

[Sew Sumi]

She said she was gluten free but never admitted to celiac or a more common gluten intolerance. Since she ate a tortilla out of the Duggar fridge, I imagine it's the latter.

[Saylii]

On 2/18/2019 at 9:05 PM, Sew Sumi said:

She said she was gluten free but never admitted to celiac or a more common gluten intolerance. Since she ate a tortilla out of the Duggar fridge, I imagine it's the latter.

You can have corn tortillas as a Celiac but I don’t remember if it was labeled or not.  I know true Celiacs can have miscarriages when they eat gluten because of the antibodies their body makes.

[floridamom]

Lauren had better never go to that quack, Fedoski, for a diagnosis of her situation.

[Sew Sumi]

Thankfully for Lauren and the other Duggar girls, Fedosky is a GP. 

Edit: If he still has a valid license. Big if for this shyster.

Edited February 22, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[cmr2014]

It occurred to me that Lauren may never have been pregnant at all.

1. I doubt she ever went to a doctor, just pee'ed on a stick.

2. The Duggars are huge liars, and have no issue with lying about anything and everything all the time

3. Lauren and Josiah are under enormous pressure to start a family -- not just because of Jesus/Gothard, but also to prove that Josiah isn't gay, or better yet that Lauren managed to make him straight with her good lovin'. A miscarriage takes the pressure off of them for a while -- or they may think it will.

I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm tossing it out here because it's one of the first things that I thought when I heard about the miscarriage -- "They're lying. Why are they lying about this?'

[galaxychaser]

4 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

It occurred to me that Lauren may never have been pregnant at all.

1. I doubt she ever went to a doctor, just pee'ed on a stick.

2. The Duggars are huge liars, and have no issue with lying about anything and everything all the time

3. Lauren and Josiah are under enormous pressure to start a family -- not just because of Jesus/Gothard, but also to prove that Josiah isn't gay, or better yet that Lauren managed to make him straight with her good lovin'. A miscarriage takes the pressure off of them for a while -- or they may think it will.

I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm tossing it out here because it's one of the first things that I thought when I heard about the miscarriage -- "They're lying. Why are they lying about this?'

I said something similar in a post of mine. Either way I hope she went to a legit doctor for treatment.

[Farmfam]

5 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

It occurred to me that Lauren may never have been pregnant at all.

1. I doubt she ever went to a doctor, just pee'ed on a stick.

2. The Duggars are huge liars, and have no issue with lying about anything and everything all the time

3. Lauren and Josiah are under enormous pressure to start a family -- not just because of Jesus/Gothard, but also to prove that Josiah isn't gay, or better yet that Lauren managed to make him straight with her good lovin'. A miscarriage takes the pressure off of them for a while -- or they may think it will.

I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm tossing it out here because it's one of the first things that I thought when I heard about the miscarriage -- "They're lying. Why are they lying about this?'

This is off google when I found out I was pregnant for the first time, but the home pregnancy tests are getting better and rarely produce a false positive. Also, both times I found out I was pregnant, I never saw my OB/GYN until 10-11 weeks, even they went off a home pregnancy test. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

28 minutes ago, Farmfam said:

This is off google when I found out I was pregnant for the first time, but the home pregnancy tests are getting better and rarely produce a false positive. Also, both times I found out I was pregnant, I never saw my OB/GYN until 10-11 weeks, even they went off a home pregnancy test. 

When we decided we were ready to try for another baby after the first turned one, the first cycle through my period was a couple of days late, and I was convinced I was pregnant because I suddenly began reacting to normal cooking odors in a similar way to that which had plagued me in the first trimester the last time. Back then you had to wait for about a week after a missed period to do a pregnancy test, and I ended up getting my period right around that time (I had bought the test that day, but didn't use it). I still believe that I might very well have had an early miscarriage, and it still saddens me a little. I did get pregnant (again?) the next month, so it was barely a glitch, and I saw a doctor right after I got the positive on that test (they were not even pee sticks then, but little test tubes that you had to wait for an hour to read) but I can well  imagine that it might have been traumatic for Lauren, especially since quite a few months have gone by since then.

[Christina87]

9 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

It occurred to me that Lauren may never have been pregnant at all.

1. I doubt she ever went to a doctor, just pee'ed on a stick.

2. The Duggars are huge liars, and have no issue with lying about anything and everything all the time

3. Lauren and Josiah are under enormous pressure to start a family -- not just because of Jesus/Gothard, but also to prove that Josiah isn't gay, or better yet that Lauren managed to make him straight with her good lovin'. A miscarriage takes the pressure off of them for a while -- or they may think it will.

I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm tossing it out here because it's one of the first things that I thought when I heard about the miscarriage -- "They're lying. Why are they lying about this?'

I thought the same thing at first, but was afraid to say it. Jinger and Jeremy could wait a year because people didn't find him gay, but it's different for poor Josiah. I hope they're not lying about this, and I feel disrespectful even suggesting that they are, but I do think it's a possibility. I don't even blame them if they are lying, though, because their culture puts them in a tough situation. 

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

I thought the same thing at first, but was afraid to say it. Jinger and Jeremy could wait a year because people didn't find him gay, but it's different for poor Josiah. I hope they're not lying about this, and I feel disrespectful even suggesting that they are, but I do think it's a possibility. I don't even blame them if they are lying, though, because their culture puts them in a tough situation. 

@cmr2014 and @Christina87 of course almost anything is possible, but I don’t think they are lying. Lots and lots of women have first trimester miscarriages. It wouldn’t be strange to me if Lauren was one of them; and it would be much stranger to lie about such a thing. 

[3 is enough]

12 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

It occurred to me that Lauren may never have been pregnant at all.

1. I doubt she ever went to a doctor, just pee'ed on a stick.

2. The Duggars are huge liars, and have no issue with lying about anything and everything all the time

3. Lauren and Josiah are under enormous pressure to start a family -- not just because of Jesus/Gothard, but also to prove that Josiah isn't gay, or better yet that Lauren managed to make him straight with her good lovin'. A miscarriage takes the pressure off of them for a while -- or they may think it will.

I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm tossing it out here because it's one of the first things that I thought when I heard about the miscarriage -- "They're lying. Why are they lying about this?'

Not going to lie, I had this thought too.  It does seem like an insane thing to do, but they were under more pressure than any other Duggar couple to produce a baby ASAP. With the Duggars, you just never know. It's all about maintaining interest and keeping the franchise moving along.

I tend to take people at their word, but the Duggars bring out my inner cynic like no one else.

That being said, I still think the most likely scenario is that she took a test as early as possible and her period arrived a couple of days later.  Lots of pregnancies fail in the very early days and women never even realize that they were pregnant at all, because they wouldn't think to test until they were a couple of weeks late.

Edited February 23, 2019 by 3 is enough

[yogi2014L]

12 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

It occurred to me that Lauren may never have been pregnant at all.

1. I doubt she ever went to a doctor, just pee'ed on a stick.

2. The Duggars are huge liars, and have no issue with lying about anything and everything all the time

3. Lauren and Josiah are under enormous pressure to start a family -- not just because of Jesus/Gothard, but also to prove that Josiah isn't gay, or better yet that Lauren managed to make him straight with her good lovin'. A miscarriage takes the pressure off of them for a while -- or they may think it will.

I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm tossing it out here because it's one of the first things that I thought when I heard about the miscarriage -- "They're lying. Why are they lying about this?'

I am enjoying this theory. It is possible. They already lie misrepresent themselves on TV year after year, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Sia and Lauren lied about this too.

I almost feel sorry for them that they felt pressure to announce something so soon. It can take a full year for healthy couples to get pregnant, never mind couples who may not fully understand reproduction.  Add on the whole speculation that they hate each other and that Siah may not be super into Lauren for numerous reasons, they probably want a baby just to shut everyone up ( which is an awful reason to have a baby). UGH good luck kids. this is a disaster.

[Lunera]

I never thought about them lying but now that they have announced a miscarriage people will lay off them about having a baby. They don't seem in a hurry to have one since Lauren decorated their spare bedroom. 

[Christina87]

6 hours ago, Lunera said:

I never thought about them lying but now that they have announced a miscarriage people will lay off them about having a baby. They don't seem in a hurry to have one since Lauren decorated their spare bedroom. 

This is very true. It could very well be a gray area / half-truth in there somewhere, like she smelled a strong smell and threw up one day, and her period was two days late, but then she had her period. I hadn't even thought of that, though, and it's a good point that it would make people lay off. I feel bad for them no matter what the situation is, because they don't have the freedom to just wait like a normal couple does. 

[floridamom]

When I was in my early 30s; I thought that I was pregnant again. I was 2 weeks late. That could have made me 5-6 weeks along. I was not pregnant yet when my period arrived, it was quite heavy and thick. My point is that my doctor assured me that I was not pregnant at all; just one of those things. He stated that timing for women's cycles are not absolutely 28 days apart. I was not on the pill BTW, so nature prevailed in that. We used other methods.  Perhaps Lauren, who is who very young at 19 doesn't understand her body and how it works. Perhaps she never will if she doesn't educate herself with a real medical professional.

[heckkitty]

I doubt that they would lie about a miscarriage. According to at least JB & M, that’s punishment for sin, so I can’t imagine they’d go there. I guess it’s possible that they didn’t take a test, but they seem to have them lying all over the TTH, so I’m guessing they did. I’m more interested in how she and Jessa knew they had the exact same due date. To me, that sounds like obsessive cycle tracking like M made the kids do. Cause it sound like she didn’t have time to get to a Dr. Unless she saw Dr. Jill, of course. 

Edited February 25, 2019 by heckkitty