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With their options dwindling and their paranoia rising, Joel and Sheila consider making a move. Eric and Abby come up with a fracking good plan.

 

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I feel behind in writing my reviews for each of the episode, but I just finished the season. And honestly, I think I enjoyed it a lot more than the first season. I think they had a good pace with this season, with discovering the source of Shelia being undead, and I hope that's the true source. I know some people might complain that it was too neatly wrapped up (I've already seen an article about that), but Shelia and Joel still have one living clam, which could cause some destruction later on. And also, I would hate for something more contrived to come along and be the real reason for the turn. I don't think there needs to be another twist there. We already have Shelia and Ramona as potential zombie spreaders. Ramona could have turned people when she moved to Seattle, so destroying the source doesn't mean that this is it for the zombie population. 

As for the finale here, I thought it was great. Everything came around with Anne's investigation. 

I genuinely got sad when Gary said that he was ready to die. I assumed that he would get to die. But surprise! He's still around as a talking head! I look forward to more Gary the Talking Head if there's a third season. Also, Anne knows the truth...but thinks it's because of a religious thing, not that she actually eats people, so we'll see how she takes that part. 

Timothy Olyphant was actually the highlight of this second season. I love Drew, and her chemistry with Timothy was great, but it was Joel who really made this season great. The entire experience is happening to Shelia, but Joel is just as much involved.

I liked the Abby/Eric stuff. Instead of them being bratty teenagers, the show found a purpose for them, other than dealing with Shelia's zombie status. It was awesome to see them get involved with the fracking problem. Again, something I assume will be further explored in a potential third season. Plus, Abby/Eric kissed but I like that they didn't make it into some really big romantic deal. It felt friendly to me and I didn't sense some True Love thing there, and they handled the aftermath so casually, as nothing had changed between them. I wouldn't hate a romance there, but I much rather their friendship be in tact. 

Overall, a good second season. Some moments were a bit rocky with the storytelling, but if there is a third season, I'm more than happy to move on to the future, rather than sticking to the past (the exploration of the source of the zombieism). 

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This show isn't The Walking Dead.  In that I mean they don't want an outright outbreak.  So I don't mind that they kinda sorta probably took care of the major source of what was turning people.   Who knows how many zombie clams are still out there though and how many people were turned by Romona and Gerald McRaney who did go ferrel.  

The Abby/Eric stuff was a highlight of the season and I really enjoyed how they are becoming real friends.   Abby is a fun character commenting on her parents being totally bad at being murderers and then getting pissed that they were going to leave her behind.  Which I agree is a  really bad move.  They'd get caught in a day without her. 

I didn't think I would like Gary the talking head storyline.  It seemed like a stupid one note joke to me but then I realized he was the perfect character for Joel to get out his frustrations to.   Plus Gary was kinda funny.

The finale was just great with Anne and the way everything ended for her.  It makes sense and it shifts the story from a mystery on how the virus got started to keeping more and more people from finding out the truth now that Anne knows and thinks Shiela is some kind of chosen savior who can raise the dead.

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I knew something they gave her would clue her into them being the murderers, but wasn't sure which item. 

I enjoyed the ending.  Lots of potential for the next season. 

And now Abby is going to be trying to avoid the law like her mom.  I like how she explained why she changed how she acted, that she knows its only a matter of time until everything comes crashing down and she wants to make a difference before then

Still a bit confused on who those other two are that blew up the clam place. 

I am really not that into most Zombie shows.  I tried for a few seasons with the walking dead but it never held my interest.  But this show I really nejoy

Nathan Fillion's talking head is one of the great creative turns the show used to wonderful effect.  I am glad they didn't kill him. 

I actually like all the characters.  Loved Chris and Christa, hope they show up again next season.  I am sure they will, easy to write them in the Real-tor/Real-a-tor storylines.  (I say real-a-tor and have a hard time pronouncing it the 'correct' way)

Will be interesting if they bring back Ramona later on as well. 

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16 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

This show isn't The Walking Dead.  In that I mean they don't want an outright outbreak.  So I don't mind that they kinda sorta probably took care of the major source of what was turning people.   Who knows how many zombie clams are still out there though and how many people were turned by Romona and Gerald McRaney who did go ferrel.  

The Abby/Eric stuff was a highlight of the season and I really enjoyed how they are becoming real friends.   Abby is a fun character commenting on her parents being totally bad at being murderers and then getting pissed that they were going to leave her behind.  Which I agree is a  really bad move.  They'd get caught in a day without her. 

I didn't think I would like Gary the talking head storyline.  It seemed like a stupid one note joke to me but then I realized he was the perfect character for Joel to get out his frustrations to.   Plus Gary was kinda funny.

The finale was just great with Anne and the way everything ended for her.  It makes sense and it shifts the story from a mystery on how the virus got started to keeping more and more people from finding out the truth now that Anne knows and thinks Shiela is some kind of chosen savior who can raise the dead.

I wonder about Colonel Thune too. They left his story pretty open ended (was there a Barbara? Was he vegan and then Barbara turned him? Did he kill her in self defense?) So if they want to throw a few more undeads into the mix they have a ready vector, and if they don't want to bother there's not enough loose ends to drive people nuts. 

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1 hour ago, questionfear said:

I wonder about Colonel Thune too. They left his story pretty open ended (was there a Barbara? Was he vegan and then Barbara turned him? Did he kill her in self defense?) So if they want to throw a few more undeads into the mix they have a ready vector, and if they don't want to bother there's not enough loose ends to drive people nuts. 

I hadn't thought about those scenarios. 

Also they only have the people it seems who paid by credit card.  Could be people who paid cash.  Maybe one of the chefs or employees had ate some clams in passing or tested it to see if it was good.  There could be others. 

Or did the brother of the clam lady give anyone else anyone samples?  Plus she still has the ones in her house, those weren't blown up. 

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I assumed that the house clams were just regular clams, because they looked a normal shade of white/gray and not the zombie red clam color. But I could be wrong, and you might bring up a very good point!

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Oh lord this season was funny. I mean last season was funny as hell, but this season, jesus. I did the same damn thing I did with last season, which I swore I wouldn't. I binged the whole thing in one day. Totally worth it.

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I'm pretty sure the house clams are just regular clams. And Ruby mentioned that the zombie hunter couple "interrogated" her earlier in the day about her clams, so I'm guessing that's why they didn't blow up her house too. 

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Honestly, given the competencies of the people involved, I'm not even sure the zombie clams were destroyed. As far as I know, no one went back to check if extreme heat actually did the trick; with their luck, the rocket just ended up blasting the clams high and into the sky, where wild animals could get at them. 

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20 hours ago, RedHackle said:

Oh lord this season was funny. I mean last season was funny as hell, but this season, jesus. I did the same damn thing I did with last season, which I swore I wouldn't. I binged the whole thing in one day. Totally worth it.

I almost did the same thing, but it did take me a couple of days.  This show, to me, is the funniest thing I've watched in a long time.  I want more!!

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I am so sad that there are only 10 episodes per season! I only watched S1 a couple of weeks ago so I timed it pretty well. I freaking hate zombie shows, but Drew and Timothy's names, along with creator Victor Fresco (if you haven't watched the short lived Better Off Ted, you're missing out) sucked me in. 

Like most people, I binged this, so now it's hard to go back and post in the single episode threads. I did like the way they ended this season and am dying to know who the missile firing couple is. I hope the zombie clams are destroyed. They certainly have enough for more seasons, I'd think. 

The only thing that really bothers me is the way Joel and Sheila nonchalantly discuss murders and bodies while sitting in restaurants, standing in a backyard full of people, while standing at the edge of their driveway with cops on either side of the house, etc. It puts my anxiety through the roof! They really are not good at this. And of course that's part of what makes it so entertaining. 

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I had this show recommended to me a month or two ago and finally tried it last week and am now disappointed that I blew through it so quickly.  There are too many great lines to quote and the cast is great too.  And even in that great cast, the actress playing Abby is a revelation; she does so much in reaction shots without ever being unbelievable. 

The zombie clams are native to some lake in Serbia so they aren't extinct just because one warehouse was blown up, which means there can be as many clams or zombies as the show wants or needs.

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On 3/25/2018 at 5:52 PM, Chaos Theory said:

 

This show isn't The Walking Dead.  In that I mean they don't want an outright outbreak.  So I don't mind that they kinda sorta probably took care of the major source of what was turning people.   Who knows how many zombie clams are still out there though and how many people were turned by Romona and Gerald McRaney who did go ferrel.  

 

Thank zombie Jesus it isn’t. The Walking Dead is such a shit show right now that if they decided the virus originates from clams and had thousands of Mr. Ball Legs running around it would make MORE sense than it does right now. You should join the latest episode thread, we are all talking about the latest “New Rule” that violates 8 seasons of previous canon.

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As soon as I saw Shelia’s bangles rattling as they were recording the voice message, I knew it would be their undoing. 

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On 3/25/2018 at 9:44 PM, DrSpaceman73 said:

I knew something they gave her would clue her into them being the murderers, but wasn't sure which item. 

I enjoyed the ending.  Lots of potential for the next season. 

And now Abby is going to be trying to avoid the law like her mom.  I like how she explained why she changed how she acted, that she knows its only a matter of time until everything comes crashing down and she wants to make a difference before then

Still a bit confused on who those other two are that blew up the clam place. 

I am really not that into most Zombie shows.  I tried for a few seasons with the walking dead but it never held my interest.  But this show I really nejoy

Nathan Fillion's talking head is one of the great creative turns the show used to wonderful effect.  I am glad they didn't kill him. 

I actually like all the characters.  Loved Chris and Christa, hope they show up again next season.  I am sure they will, easy to write them in the Real-tor/Real-a-tor storylines.  (I say real-a-tor and have a hard time pronouncing it the 'correct' way)

Will be interesting if they bring back Ramona later on as well. 

I knew it was the bracelets that would be the clue. Sheila was doing her happy dance before ending the fake phone call so I figured when she gave the bracelets to Anne she would hear them on the phone call 

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 in the Real-tor/Real-a-tor storylines.  (I say real-a-tor and have a hard time pronouncing it the 'correct' way)

I haven't seen this brought up-- but is this running pronunciation thing a call back to Justified? I seem to recall TO's character giving a realtor shit about how to pronounce it (the guy who briefly dated Waylon's ex-wife, season 1 or 2)).  

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1 hour ago, sacrebleu said:

I haven't seen this brought up-- but is this running pronunciation thing a call back to Justified? I seem to recall TO's character giving a realtor shit about how to pronounce it (the guy who briefly dated Waylon's ex-wife, season 1 or 2)).  

Winona's second husband Gary was a realtor but I don't recall how Olyphant pronounced it in that show. The realtor pronunciation thing is weird to me. I'm British and we call them estate agents but I find it difficult to say realtor. It is easier to say realator and I have to make an effort to say realtor.

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I used to work as a marketing specialist (not an agent) in commercial real estate.

In the U.S., a real estate agent is not necessarily the same thing as a Realtor. Being a Realtor is an optional special branded certification that must be paid for by the agent (and maybe the Realtor has to attend additional certification classes, but I'm unsure). All Realtors are agents but not all agents are Realtors.

Not a lot of commercial agents bother to be certified as Realtors. Most residential agents do.

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If you had told me when I watched the series premiere that I would be sad about Gary dying (again), I wouldn't have believed you but Gary the Talking Head has been hilarious.

Joel gets MVP of S2 though. He has been so consistently funny (as well as brave and sweet). I loved when he made Sheila promise that she would let him take the blame for all the murders if they got caught. Heh, I also loved that he already had an escape plan and Abby already had a go bag after Sheila killed Gary. Everyone but Sheila seemed to know that things would catch up to them sooner rather than later.

As soon as I saw that Sheila jangled her bracelets BEFORE ending the call when Gary left the final perfect message, I knew that was going to end up biting her in the ass. I also thought that the police would track the signal to see where Gary was when he left that message which would lead the police to the storage unit.

When Anne saw them packing up the car in the driveway, I was afraid she would take the bowling ball bag with Gary's head.

I loved S1 but I may have loved S2 even more. It's been so much fun to watch!

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I did think Anne was a bit rude taking things that were supposedly being donated to charity. It's one thing if Joel and Sheila had offered but she just assumed she could have anything they were giving away. 

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I am so sad that there are only 10 episodes per season! I only watched S1 a couple of weeks ago so I timed it pretty well. I freaking hate zombie shows, but Drew and Timothy's names, along with creator Victor Fresco (if you haven't watched the short lived Better Off Ted, you're missing out) sucked me in. 

Oh, same guy behind Better Off Ted? Makes total sense. Loved that show. Just think . . . if Netflix had been around back then, Better Off Ted might still be on. 

Yeah I blew through this season pretty fast too. And that's after re-watching all of Season 1 because I forgot so much of it. You can get through these half-hour comedies pretty quickly when they only make 10 a year. 

One thing I don't get is why Gary's head looks so deteriorated. Is it because he was buried for a long time, or is it because it's detached from his body? I can't think of anything that was keeping Sheila looking "fresh" pre-serum that wouldn't have applied to Gary's head.

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17 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Oh, same guy behind Better Off Ted? Makes total sense. Loved that show. Just think . . . if Netflix had been around back then, Better Off Ted might still be on. 

Yeah I blew through this season pretty fast too. And that's after re-watching all of Season 1 because I forgot so much of it. You can get through these half-hour comedies pretty quickly when they only make 10 a year. 

One thing I don't get is why Gary's head looks so deteriorated. Is it because he was buried for a long time, or is it because it's detached from his body? I can't think of anything that was keeping Sheila looking "fresh" pre-serum that wouldn't have applied to Gary's head.

Sheila was eating regularly.  Gary not so much. 

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On 3/30/2018 at 4:33 AM, GSManiac said:

As soon as I saw Shelia’s bangles rattling as they were recording the voice message, I knew it would be their undoing. 

Me, too. 

I hope Joel can get his clothes back, now that Anne knows the truth (sort of), and the new toaster oven. 

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I binged watched this thing in a week. I'd seen the promotions for it on bus stops before it premiered and gave it a hard pass. The concept and casting sounded obnoxious, and the little bit I saw of the pilot turned me off. Recently gave it another shot and was immediately hooked right through this episode.

General thoughts: Never seen nor heard of Timothy Olyphant before - hard for me to imagine he's a macho hottie in other projects (apparently, per previously recaps). He seems perfectly cast as a Darren to Drew Barrymore's Samantha (Shiela). Skinny, spiky hair, medium pitched voice (not low and macho), boyish features, skinny bod. Totally believe him as smart but nervous.

LOVE that there's an inner circle who know about Sheila - namely, Eric and Abby, and also LOVE that there's apparently another Sheila/Joel out there - that other duo stalking the clams and trying to figure things out. I don't know why, but it gives me faith in the show and helps me buy into everything - feels SO realistic within the imaginary world created here.

I don't think they ever actually killed Gary in the finale, did they? Events got away from them?  Nathan Fillon is really good, although part of me has trouble enjoying Gary - there's no turning back from the condition he's in (presumably, although I guess a graft is possible) and, farcical though this show is, it's really hard imagining his circumstances.

Absolutely adore Eric and the guy who plays him. He's my hook into this. I've seen this type a million times but very few actors just nail it the way he is while keeping the essential sweetness, smarts, and strength. He's absolutely perfect. Also enjoy Abby, who is right in the sweet spot of smart ass but loving teen daughter. Never obnoxious.

Now that I think of it, bet they graft Gary next season. Makes sense.

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I did think Anne was a bit rude taking things that were supposedly being donated to charity. It's one thing if Joel and Sheila had offered but she just assumed she could have anything they were giving away. 

To me that was total Anne and it was kind of hilarious. She's very awkward and basically has no qualms about putting what she wants out there. She would annoy the hell out of me in real life, but it works on this.
I started the season a bit hesitantly because I was wondering just how far they could go with the story without it getting tired or predictable (who will Sheila kill today and how will Joel or Abby have to take care of it). I'm so happy I was wrong - it was entertaining, funny and the acting was terrific. Plus I absolutely adore Eric, and Gary the talking head was a bizarre stroke of brilliance that could have been horribly wrong but ended up so right. I'm all in for whatever is next whenever they can get it on the air.

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On 4/7/2018 at 1:29 PM, Maysie said:

... it was entertaining, funny and the acting was terrific. Plus I absolutely adore Eric, and Gary the talking head was a bizarre stroke of brilliance that could have been horribly wrong but ended up so right. I'm all in for whatever is next whenever they can get it on the air.

This! A friend recommended the show and I too was hesitant about watching. I will say I fast forwarded past the vomit scenes. I could watch the gore on The Walking Dead, but scenes containing any form of vomit is too much for me. ? 

Anyway, you described my feelings about the show perfectly. It’s brilliantly funny, with a hint of serious reflection that works to balance the story before getting back to the laughs. I enjoyed the show immensely and found that I liked all of main and supporting characters, even annoying Dan during his short stint on the show. 

I was disappointed when episode 10 ended only to find there were no more episodes to watch. I heard the show was renewed for a 3rd season though. So I can’t wait to see what they come up with next. 

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On 3/27/2018 at 10:21 PM, Squirrely said:

I am so sad that there are only 10 episodes per season! I only watched S1 a couple of weeks ago so I timed it pretty well. I freaking hate zombie shows, but Drew and Timothy's names, along with creator Victor Fresco (if you haven't watched the short lived Better Off Ted, you're missing out) sucked me in. 

Really? That explains why this show is hilarious and why they had actors from that show. Better off Ted was amazing. 

I loved this season. Nathan Fillions talking head was great. Joel did need a friend to talk to about all his issues Abby has Eric. Speaking of those two its refreshing to have two teens not be bratty and annoying.  Both actors have great comedic timing. 

Joel slowly unraveling throughout the season was something to watch. He's right they wouldn't last a day without Abby. I'm glad they stopped showing the vomiting. I can watch all matter of grossness except that. My sister warned me about the pilot so I could fast forward that part. 

I like how they brought everything around especially Anne's religion. If we get a season 3 it should be interesting to have a cop helping them out. 

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On 4/2/2018 at 1:39 PM, sacrebleu said:

I haven't seen this brought up-- but is this running pronunciation thing a call back to Justified? I seem to recall TO's character giving a realtor shit about how to pronounce it (the guy who briefly dated Waylon's ex-wife, season 1 or 2)).  

 

On 4/2/2018 at 3:37 PM, snowwhyte said:

Winona's second husband Gary was a realtor but I don't recall how Olyphant pronounced it in that show. The realtor pronunciation thing is weird to me. I'm British and we call them estate agents but I find it difficult to say realtor. It is easier to say realator and I have to make an effort to say realtor.

On Justified, Olyphant's character asked a realtor whether it's pronounced "realter" or "realtore." And the guy made a dumb joke, like, "As long as you call us, we don't care how you pronounce it."

The debate over how to pronounce it on Santa Clarita Diet made me think of Justified, too. But they were talking about a different aspect of the pronunciation on Justified.

I think it's just that Barrymore and Olyphant both happen to pronounce it the "wrong" way, and they both had to say the word a bunch of times throughout season one - which led to a bunch of people online saying they were irritated by it. Which led to the writers deciding it would be funny to reference it on the show.

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On 3/25/2018 at 9:44 PM, DrSpaceman73 said:

Still a bit confused on who those other two are that blew up the clam place. 

The guy seems to be a descendant of the Serbian knight that was shown in Sheila's Zombie Book. The knight had a picture of Mr. Ball Legs on his shield and the guy had a tattoo of Mr. Ball Legs on his arm. The man has probably sworn to rid the world of Zombies and has a lot of knowledge about the Zombies. He showed up at the place where they were selling the Serbian vomit, questioned the crazy guy that mentioned that he met a Zombie and destroyed the place where they had the Serbian clams.

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On 4/15/2018 at 4:44 AM, AnimeMania said:

The guy seems to be a descendant of the Serbian knight that was shown in Sheila's Zombie Book. The knight had a picture of Mr. Ball Legs on his shield and the guy had a tattoo of Mr. Ball Legs on his arm. The man has probably sworn to rid the world of Zombies and has a lot of knowledge about the Zombies. He showed up at the place where they were selling the Serbian vomit, questioned the crazy guy that mentioned that he met a Zombie and destroyed the place where they had the Serbian clams.

We'll see next season but it seemed like they could probably spin this into an association of ball-knights...like all the mods on the supernatural subreddit are just ball-knights, and they each have a district...

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I finally got around to watching this! The writing is so witty and the actors are charming. Sadly an entire year until season 3. 

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I love how Abby and Eric are a mini-Joel and Shelia in how they interact.  It was great how Eric was totally going to step up and blow up the trailer but desperately wanted her to say no. That was such a Joel move. 

 

I was was really entertained last night going through the Quotes thread. I forgot how many great lines there are. Hilarious. 

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On 3/26/2018 at 7:50 AM, questionfear said:

I wonder about Colonel Thune too. They left his story pretty open ended (was there a Barbara? Was he vegan and then Barbara turned him? Did he kill her in self defense?) So if they want to throw a few more undeads into the mix they have a ready vector, and if they don't want to bother there's not enough loose ends to drive people nuts. 

What happened to that guy from the first season who was a criminal-turned-poet or something who wanted to run away with Shiela?  Had he had the clams at Japopo's?

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Did Japopo’s serve them raw, or how did they manage to cook them if they are so heat resistant? Maybe they knew they were in a restaurant so they played dead? 

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On 4/29/2018 at 7:48 PM, janie jones said:

What happened to that guy from the first season who was a criminal-turned-poet or something who wanted to run away with Shiela?  Had he had the clams at Japopo's?

Loki? Sheila scratched him when they were trying to kill him the first time. 

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Definitely one of the best comedy series out there.  I laughed so hard when Anna was asking for a sign and the fraking site blew up.  And now Sheila is the leader of a new religion.  And for a moment, I was sure Gary was going to play dead for Anna, but he had to liven up, or his head would just be reburied.

The actors are so good with their characters.  Abby's actress is a great find.

Can't wait for the next season.  I hope we learn more about mr. ball legs.

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I'm coming late to the party. Just binge-watched season one with my sister, who had heard the show was funny yet knew nothing at all about the zombie story-line. She was visiting me and said she wanted to watch something diverting. She was a bit shocked at the zombie gore. I got caught up in the story and went ahead and binge-watched part of Season two before finally going to bed myself. Finished up the rest of season 2 the next morning. Obviously I enjoy the show, and yet am not particularly into the zombie genre, my previous zombie watching consisting of “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies,” which I got a kick out of. So I guess I like my zombie entertainment with big dollops of ironic humor... I enjoy the aspect of Sheila and Joel being realtors (“real-a-ters”), as an ironic counterpoint to the zombie story. I truly enjoy their relentlessly upbeat take on things---is it them, or is it California culture, or is it the community-boosterism that seems necessary for realtors? I also enjoy that the subsidiary story-lines are coherent, and give plenty of room for a variety of plot twists. I don't agree that destroying the ruby clams means less story-line----there are still those fierce zombie hunters, who destroyed the clam farm, to contend with. And the weird spider things have to be destroyed, presumably. And will Gary remain a character, or decide he wants to be killed? And is Seattle safe from contamination by Ramona? And how many more zombies are out there, anyway?

Where I'm going with this is, I really hate the clams. They disturb me and gross me out. And yes, more than the zombie-fest grosses me out. I don't understand that either, I just know I want the clams to stay gone!

Updating this a few days later: I wonder if Principal Novak and/or his granny are zombies. Where's that coming from? Well, it seems like often zombies offer people food, especially sweet food, like pastry. Isn't the principal always offering the kids candy? I just wondered if there was a meaning in that... Anyway, I'm looking forward to season 3---any word on when it will be airing?

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