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  1. Maysie

    S02.E03: Seven-Fifty

    I kind of feel like Lori missed her chance for a break from CC. I don't think he'll ever let her go because she wants to go. She's "famous," and she's earning well. He's not going to give that up - I think he'd kill or disfigure her first. The only way she gets out is either taking a risk when she's a flight away, like she was in LA, or he inevitably grows tired of her when she ages and someone newer and fresher comes along. I guess it's possible Ashley could help her escape CC's clutches, but I think Lori's into her film career, so I don't see her breaking out of the sex business. It could also be that the agent (Fig from OITNB) could "buy" her out from CC, but I don't know about that... The fact that Frankie seems to be able to use the peep shows as a personal ATM machine doesn't seem very realistic to me. I don't know how long that's been going on, but i can't imagine anyone, including his own brother, allowing it to happen more than once or twice. The police/political stuff isn't all that interesting to me, however, I can see that it has its place as a background story because I think it helps provide context to the evolution of that part of Manhattan. The first time I went to Manhattan was 1978 on a family trip when I was in high school and Times Square was exactly as shown on the show. It's had quite the evolution and I think it provides an interesting bit of historical context to the main plotlines.
  2. Maysie

    S02.E10: The Gold Coast

    Obviously I'm speculating, but the Snells are going to get rich off the deal, which now means Darlene and Zeke if she adopts him, correct? And if Darlene is killed by the cartel, it wouldn't surprise me if the Byrds end up with Zeke, as mentioned earlier. Which means, depending on the timing, that Zeke and his adoptive family could end up with that wealth. There's a lot of ifs in that scenario, for sure, but if the show goes on long enough, I can see it happening. And though Ruth is kind of a hot mess, honestly, she's the one in this group I'd want raising my orphaned kid. She's been absolutely dogged in her pursuit of a better life for Wyatt and shielding her cousins from the shitstorm that surrounds them. She's not always successful, but she sure gives it her best and there's never any doubt who comes first. Of course she's not neck-deep in with the cartel (yet), so that does make it a bit easier for her...
  3. Maysie

    S02.E10: The Gold Coast

    Thanks for saying this. God knows I thought Cade Slingblade Langmore was an awful, hateful person, and I am glad he's gone, but he's her father. It's all she knows. The need for parental love and approval is one of those really basic needs. And considering Ruth's life - where she's lived, how poorly her family is regarded in the community, her education and options, being the only female in the family trying to hold it all together - yeah, I can see where her emotions and actions regarding her father are kind of all over the map. Her brain is smart enough to know Cade was a bad man and not good to/for her, but her heart and her dna may be at odds with that. Ruth is treated like the town's stray dog. Everyone likes to toss her a bone or a scrap and do the minimum for her to make them feel better about themselves, but at the end of the day, it didn't seem to me like anyone really cared about her. It made me nuts when Marty basically laid all this at her feet when he was planning to take off to the gold coast with his family. I know it's a vote of confidence that she can handle the business side, but does anyone seriously think that the cartel would be all "well, it's okay if Ruth is running the money laundering operation now - we don't care where the Byrds are!" Hell no! They will torture her again, or even kill her or her family because there's no way they won't think she's not in on it. There's a reason why Marty wants to be untraceable and to put Ruth in that position was really irresponsible and, I thought, showed how little consideration he really gives Ruth. I'm okay with Wyatt's anger about Ruth's confession. At first I was kind of annoyed by the "ghost of Wyatt's dad" making appearances to Wyatt, but it gave some insight into how he saw his relationship with his dad. And like Ruth's situation, it's the family he had and it's the family he loved. He knew parts were fucked up, but when you look at things like the situation at school (Wyatt being underestimated because he's a Langmore - Mizzou is out of reach for him simply for that reason) it underscores how isolated they were from everyone else, so I get that you love the ones you're with (especially when no one else will give you the chance). I feel badly for Wyatt because the most important person in his life was killed by the second most important person in his life (and the only one who really has his back). I think there are some interesting parallels with father/child relationships - you've got Ruth and Wyatt, but there's also Jonah, following in his dad's footsteps, laundering money too (and how fucked up is it that Wendy asked him to do some more, "just this once"? - the Byrds aren't much better in the parenting department than the Langmores; they're just a little more presentable about it). All these children wanting their fathers' approval... I have to ask this question because we obviously missed something: I thought they wanted the Snell's land to build the casino, isn't that right? Wasn't that part of all the back and forth this season? And now Zeke is (shudder) living under Darlene's care. So what was the point of all of that if the casino is a riverboat now? Is that supposed to be the segue for the casino on the Snell's place? That ties into my biggest complaint about the season - it seemed kind of all over the map. I do understand that these types of stories have a lot of moving parts, but we have the cartel, the Snells, the Byrds, the locals, the Feds and now the mob. I think if they're going to bring in so many different factors the storytelling needs to tighten up a bit. Breaking Bad was masterful at that stuff, but this show doesn't seem to be as artful at juggling all these bits and pieces.
  4. Maysie

    S04.E04: Forgiving.is.Living

    You know, when last season ended I was on the fence about whether I wanted to return. I've read through this season's episode threads (which didn't take long) and decided I'm not going to waste the time on it. Though I haven't watched the season, based on the threads, I'm getting a bit of an Entourage vibe now - like the show should have quit when it was ahead. I loved the first few seasons of Entourage when it had its focus but I quit the last couple of seasons because imo, it became an excuse to have bare-breasted women walking around while Ari threw a tantrum over something and people oohed and aahed over Vince. It sounds like Ballers is headed down a similar path - getting away from its initial premise of football and trying to go somewhere that will include drama and hijinx for Spencer. I'd prefer to remember it fondly, when it was about football, and not tune into hate watch. I'll read the threads and if it looks like there's a change or some promise, I'll give it a shot. But Russell Brand, surfing and skateboarding? Nothing about that says football to me and the established characters weren't quite compelling enough to make me go down this new path with them.
  5. Maysie

    S01.E07: Falling

    Well, I can think of a couple of guys I went to high school with (a long, long time ago) and no kidding, when we were 16-17, the one had a full beard, not teen-age boy scraggly Shaggy stuff. The other one didn't grow out his facial hair but it was obvious he would be well-bearded if he'd let it go. And my brother had a friend that was similar. Early blooming isn't only for girls. I'm all over the map with who did what, but I feel like somehow Adora is tied up in the murder of the girls. For one thing, why was she giving them so much attention anyway? Adora doesn't do anything that doesn't serve her own purpose. She may have "mentored" the girls because it would reflect well on her, or perhaps she was going to poison them too. Their deaths were another opportunity for Adora to get more attention - they were the girls she gave extra attention to, and it reminds everyone of the loss of Marian, so I can see where there would be some motive for Adora to kill them. I can't remember actual causes of death (I can't keep Ann and Natalie straight) - did the sheriff say anything about that? I'm sure there were autopsies, but it would be interesting to find out if they were poisoned in any way (I am sure if there had been anything in their systems that would have indicated Adora's handiwork the sheriff would not have shared that). I'm not onboard with the Gayla theory, and Alan - he just seems so weak in every way. Amma is manipulative and she certainly can be cruel, but I'm not sure I would buy her being that cruel. Though didn't she say at one point that she quit being friends with Ann and Natalie for some stupid reason?
  6. Maysie

    S02.E10: Halibut!

    To me that was total Anne and it was kind of hilarious. She's very awkward and basically has no qualms about putting what she wants out there. She would annoy the hell out of me in real life, but it works on this. I started the season a bit hesitantly because I was wondering just how far they could go with the story without it getting tired or predictable (who will Sheila kill today and how will Joel or Abby have to take care of it). I'm so happy I was wrong - it was entertaining, funny and the acting was terrific. Plus I absolutely adore Eric, and Gary the talking head was a bizarre stroke of brilliance that could have been horribly wrong but ended up so right. I'm all in for whatever is next whenever they can get it on the air.
  7. Maysie

    Seven Seconds

    I absolutely agree with this. I know a former NYPD cop and if he's any indication, there is definitely that brotherhood thing that goes on with cops. And I understand where that comes from to an extent because they have to rely on each other to have each others' backs, no matter what, though I don't agree with the "us vs.them" mentality that seems to pervade law enforcement. I think part of my problem with it is that it was such a huge leap from Jablonski hitting Brenton accidentally to "because of Ferguson it means you did this on purpose." (because seriously, how could anyone logically look at how that accident happened and believe that Jablonski, on his way to see his wife who was in danger of miscarrying again, purposely ran over Brenton?). The whole set up made no sense to me. In fact, when the accident first happened, I assumed Brenton was dead from the way they were behaving. To know that they knew he wasn't dead, but instead left him to die and then cover it up (and very sloppily I might add - I mean, the blood - my god, the blood!) - it seemed like a series of super extreme reactions to a tragic accident (including killing a teenage girl to cover it up, because why not kill two teenagers?). I think there are probably plenty of more realistic scenarios that would have provided a jumping off point for the cops' behaviors and their inner conflict. It seems that this is a situation of the story being very character-driven with the plot being built around characters that had already been fleshed out.
  8. Maysie

    Seven Seconds

    We're about halfway through and I think we will finish it (I spoiled myself so I would have a vague idea of how it turned out in case we bail). I wish we could be more excited about it but so far, not so much. It's kind of a "you want to watch Seven Seconds?" "Mmmmm I guess so..." kind of thing. I know given the premise of the story it's not going to be a happy watch, but I'm exhausted with the mother's grief and KJ's dysfunction. The cops are so mustache-twirling evil that they almost seem like a caricature. I think in those instances, a little nuance would be help - more isn't always more. And the timeline seems off kilter to me. In one scene I feel like it's months after the hit and run and then it's two weeks. This thing is all over the place, regarding the holes in the story, the pacing and the characters. It feels like this was an overly ambitious project that ended up being pieced together. It's a bit too sloppy for me to call it good. And I certainly wouldn't bother with a season two, if there is such a thing.
  9. Maysie

    S04.E13: The Home

    Honestly, I quit watching Sol and Robert by episode four. I fast forwarded through all their scenes because they're dull, I don't care and I can't stand Sol. He's just too precious. That's what I figure. It's a little startling that I actually like someone that I really disliked so much last season. It's nice to see that someone has Grace's back - someone besides Frankie, anyway. God knows her kids don't. Look, God knows Grace has her issues, particularly with the booze, and if her kids want to have an intervention on that, have at it, I say. But she had knee surgery and is having a difficult time getting around. That's to be expected. You don't permanently put her in a home for that. As mentioned before, get someone in the house to help her. And Frankie has always been loopy, and maybe I could understand they don't want her driving around with Faith on her own, but that's a big stretch to "you can't be left alone with Faith." (I bet that lasts as long as it's convenient for Bud). Grace and Frankie have been having their wacky hijinx for four years now, and while I understand that the sight of the house must have been alarming for the family, it's not like there were magazines, mail an newspapers stacking up, dirty dishes piling up in the sink, half eaten food sitting out, etc. - they weren't living in filthy, unhealthy conditions. They had a leaking ceiling that collapsed. I don't know; the kids were super eager to put them in an assisted living community and that bugged me a lot. As Lilacly said, none of them are really in a position to be calling their mothers out on their ability to take care of themselves. I mean really, how much better are they doing at adulting? And they are in the prime of their lives...
  10. My boss had lunch in one of the restaurants. Every single cookbook has been removed from the shelves (I don't know about all, but at least a few of the restaurants have them prominently displayed, for sale). And Harrah's severed its relationship with Besh Steakhouse in the casino in town.
  11. A couple/three years ago one of my friends told me that Besh was fooling around with one of her tenants who was employed by BRG. He was not at all discreet (like hanging outside his girlfriend's house with his dog in the morning - this is a bustling neighborhood I live in and well, everyone around here knows him if they see him). Based on that conversation I had the idea he was a bit of a player/scoundrel (like his family lives on the North Shore but he has an apartment in town, which I guess was handy for all his messing around). I have no idea if said tenant was any of the women referred to in the article, but based on what my friend told me, I've long had the idea he was a serial cheater, which is definitely at odds with the image he puts out there and in his cookbooks. I was still blown away by the article, though, because it takes it to a whole new, disgusting level. I was put off by the disconnect between what he put out there for public consumption and the information my friend gave me, but this? No way I'm eating in his restaurants any longer. I got a distinct whiff of blaming the victim by him and his partner, so I'm over John Besh and his growing empire of eateries. I feel very badly for his wife, his kids and of course, the women he's minimized and basically abused over the years. What an asshole.
  12. Maysie

    S03:E10: Part 33

    Boy this sucker really went down hill. I go back and forth about John. I think the episode before this, when he was in his weird dream-state, explained a lot about why he is the way he is and how he's become sucked into being the family caretaker. And Sally's speech kind of underscored it, for me. So yeah, I felt bad for him seemingly taking on the albatross of his family for probably more than half of his life. But he killed his brother. And then covered up the death of his partner to protect his other brother. And then helped frame an innocent man for it. And then set up his idiot-brother's escape. So my sympathy has some limits there. Plus, he was a classic enabler. Now if he'd killed Kevin, I think I would have given him a pass (hell, the town might have given him a parade). I am in the minority about Sally's big monologue about the birth of her children, mainly because of the acting. My husband and I were literally laughing at Sissy Spacek having her Big Acting Moment. I remember watching the finale for season one and loving the series so much, knowing that on one hand I'd be curious about where it could go but understanding that if it ended then, it would be perfect. (And I think I could still buy the "we're good people who did a bad thing." Because every time I heard that after season one, I snort laughed.) I had reservations about season two, which I enjoyed, though not as much as the first season. In hindsight, I wish I had quit at the first season. It's really risky for a show to have so many unlikable characters and do so little to redeem them over the course of its run. Maybe if allowed to go to its planned length it would have been different, however I felt it didn't work in this short run. I don't have to like everyone (or even anyone) on a tv show to find it enjoyable or rewarding. But by the time season three rolled around on this it just became a clusterfuck of a group of really loathsome people. I blame it mostly on the writing, which became incredibly sloppy, imo. For example, if you look at all the calling going on between the Rayburns on the night of Marco's murder - calls between the Rayburns, including numerous calls going to Marco (I seem to remember Meg calling him repeatedly) - you would think that would raise some red flags (certainly to the defense attorney) since the phone records were part of the trial testimony. But that was all cherrypicked out by the writers later in the season. Adding in all the strange storylines that made no sense (Ozzy, the priest, Beth or whatever her name is) and dropping some other stories (like Nolan and his mom went from being super-involved with Sally at the inn and headed for a happy ending) and then sending Meg off into the ocean on her little sunfish - it seemed like they just drew plot points out of a hat and went with them. Even if this show was reconstituted somewhere else, I'd give it a pass. I'd watch season one again because the acting was so great, but I think I'd leave it at that. At least we have the satisfaction of knowing Kevin actually gets arrested. Whether he goes to jail or not . . . I'm sure John will do that for him, too.
  13. Maysie

    S03.E09: Part 32

    I didn't hate it. It gave me more insight into John, but really, at this point, I don't know that I need that. Honestly, I feel like the whole season went so far off the rails that I don't have a problem with this episode, specifically. Actually, it might have been better served a little earlier in the season/series because at least I'd have a better understanding why John is the way he is.
  14. Maysie


    This is a good point. And given how she behaved with her client, I have to wonder how good she is at headhunting. I know it was to reflect what was going on in her head at the moment, but damn. And all this makes me wonder a couple of things: 1) her friend's view of everything Robert "did" to her (making her give up her career and move to the burbs and support the family) - might there have been a touch of reality/practicality in Robert's insistence that she do those things (if it's even entirely true because it's a friend's perspective) that even Frances acknowledged on some subconscious level? (i.e., doubts about her ability to have a gallery and taking the "safe" choice). 2) Why was her friend on Roberts' side last episode when he'd obviously been so awful to Frances, making her do these things? Simply because Frances was cheating? I'm a bit surprised that her friend wasn't "yeah, after the monster he's been for the past xx years, he deserves to be cheated on." It's a big leap from ally to wanting to take him to the cleaners because he made her move and work as an office drone all that time. 3) If Frances' lifelong dream was to open an art gallery, I would have expected something in the periphery to point to that interest - perhaps some interesting art on the walls of her house (it doesn't have to be expensive) or even some coffee table books/magazines or something that shows me that she's kept up with what's going on in the art world. I understand that she's been made to be a working family gal, but she doesn't give off any sort of creative vibe to me. The other couple at the therapist's office: If I remember correctly, the woman was sitting there with a black eye the first time we saw them and I had the impression that Frances had kind of a "well, at least I don't have to deal with that!" kind of reaction (which would be reasonable). Did we see them the second time laughing together? I couldn't tell if it was the same couple. And I guess the point would be that even the couple that has appears to have abuse issues can find something to laugh at, to enjoy together, that Frances and Robert don't have. Did I read that right?
  15. Maysie


    I tried another episode, but I don't know if I can go any further - it's just not doing it for me. When Frances' friend (see, the only people whose names I know are Frances and Robert - the rest are just people in the show) was rattling off Robert's shortcomings (forcing her to work to support his business, etc) I realized that the very little we really know about these characters is mostly based on some other character's opinions or throwaway lines. It's a totally different show, but The Affair has done a great job of building its characters by dedicating half of each show to each character's take on things. Divorce can't do that - it'd be a cop-out and it's a different premise and format - but it seems the writers either haven't really decided who these people really are or they aren't up to the task of showing us who they are through the writing. I don't know who Robert and Frances are and more importantly, I don't really care if I ever find out. There is nothing interesting about either one to me. The show itself is a disappointment - the story, the writing, the characters, the acting - nothing seems to be gelling, and frankly, I expected a lot more based on the people involved and the fact it's on HBO. I do, however, enjoy the music. It's nice to tune in and hear some song I'd long forgotten about, but I don't think that's enough to keep me tuning in.