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9 hours ago, blueray said:

My theater was surprised by this a lot people gasped and I was one of them. Then one lady said really loud "wait that was in that other movie".

I was surprised even though, thinking about it, I shouldn't have been. I may have gasped, and I don't know if the theater did, but there was a definite ripple of shock that went through the room. We saw it with someone who hadn't finished Infinity War. She turned to us and was all, "What was that? What happened?" We just told her she has to finish Infinity War.

She loved the movie, though. She was laughing so much during the movie it really heightened my enjoyment of it. I like the more low-key nature of the Ant-Man movies and I like all the characters. It was delightful way to spend an afternoon which is all I ask of movies.

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Lantern7
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Also, I’m now hoping Luis appears in the next Avengers movie, just so he can do one of his recaps.

tennisgurl
tennisgurl

FUCK YOU THANOS!!! Seriously though, that was a great movie, I loved every minute of it. I loved the fist Ant Man, but I think I actually liked this one even more. The plot was more streamlined,

Dandesun
Dandesun

The idea of Hank raging about Howard at Tony then, after a beat, Tony just goes 'Totally agreed. Did he ever shut up about Cap to you?' Hank's all 'Oh my God, he never. shut. up. about Rogers. Li

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Jeebus Cripes

Jeebus Cripes

I can't shake the image of that giant ant bathing with the ankle monitor. In fact, I need gifs of that ant doing all of Scott's daily activities! 

I wish I could watch the Luis truth serum recap again. That was everything. 

I expected the mid credit scene to be a dusting. However, I did not expect everyone but Scott to bite it, nor did I expect he would be stuck in the quantum realm! Yeesh. 

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Spartan Girl

Spartan Girl

It was just the movie we needed after Infinity War...until that damn ending! Curse you, Thanos!!!

But everything else was great. Boy, they did a great job making Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer look younger in that flashback.

I love that Scott has such a good relationship with his ex and her husband now. And Cassie is adorable.

I sure hope Luis didn't get dusted too, because those recaps are pure gold.

So I guess that crushes any hope of the Wasp being a part of a female Avenger squad that will take down Thanos and undo the Snapture. But seriously, Marvel, after that's all cleared up, put her in a movie with Captain Marvel, Valkyrie, the Black Panther ladies and Shaon Carter (I don't give a crap if ScarJo/Nat is in it or not).

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Jeebus Cripes

Jeebus Cripes

15 hours ago, Enigma X said:

Saw the movie and loved the movie. Luis and  his buddies were hilarious. Paul Rudd never ages and has become my sexiest Marvel actor (which is saying a lot). Only part I hated was the use of Morrisey as Scott's ringtone for personal reasons.

I rather liked the fact that Luis has a thing for Morrisey, not because of the singer, who I'm rather indifferent to, but because it was so wonderfully unexpected. 

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Jeebus Cripes

Jeebus Cripes

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21 hours ago, Enigma X said:

Totally missed that was Luis's phone. I just thought Scott had a different ringtone for his daughter. In any case, still hated it.

It was Scott's phone, but during Luis' truth serum rant he mentions his grandmother's (?) jukebox only had Morrisey. I figure that's why Scott is using it as a ringtone for Luis.

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BigBeagle

BigBeagle

Finally saw this and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was much better than the first one, IMO.

The funniest part, of course, was Luis' truth serum monologue. It was very satisfying to see that his motor mouth exasperates the bad guys, also. And I loved how Luis' mates had his back ... Dave saying, "You pay the dime, you've got to listen to the whole song" was a great line. I think I would pay to see an X Cons movie.

The action sequences were marvelous, especially the chase scene through San Francisco. Three or four times through that sequence, I caught myself asking, "How did they do that?"

The mid-credits scene was, of course, a major comedown from the light-hearted shenanigans, but at least it did firmly tie the Ant-Man franchise into the MCU as a whole.

Dang, Michelle Pfeiffer is still a gorgeous woman. Does she have a Dorian Gray-type portrait stashed away somewhere?

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tennisgurl

tennisgurl

On 7/16/2018 at 3:15 AM, Jeebus Cripes said:

I rather liked the fact that Luis has a thing for Morrisey, not because of the singer, who I'm rather indifferent to, but because it was so wonderfully unexpected. 

Apparently, Morrisey really is super popular in a lot of Hispanic and Chicano communities, especially in California and the LA area. So, it actually makes total sense that Luis and his grandma love Morrisey, and its not just random, its actually a really specific cultural reference that makes sense for the character. Its great attention to detail.

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Browncoat

Browncoat

I saw this last night, and really enjoyed it!  It was a lot of fun.  I didn't see the first one (I have seen a smattering of the MCU movies), so I had no idea what I was getting into.  I always appreciate that movies like this one are made accessible for those of us who don't read the comics or who haven't kept up to date with the 49,500 superhero movies out these days.

That said, I am very glad I'd seen Infinity War.  I knew immediately what had happened when Scott could no longer hear the countdown to his return in the mid-credits scene.  They kind of tried to misdirect us with the faulty mike at the beginning of that scene, but I just knew they'd all been dusted. 

Loved the giant building as wheeled luggage!  The part that had me in stitches, though, was when Scott kept trying to get an ant to take him to the ferry, but the sea gulls kept eating his ants.  For some reason, that just tickled my funny bone, and I just could not stop laughing.

And in other news, Michael Douglas is still hot.

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JustaPerson

JustaPerson

I didn't really realize that the first Ant Man took place in San Francisco (should have noticed when we saw the cable car), but you can't miss it in this one. I liked how they used the city in the set pieces (those unique  roads, the pier, etc.) There are other cities in the world other than NY, MCU! But I'm a west coaster so I'm biased lol

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Traveller519

Traveller519

I could have kept going more rounds of adult men being captivated by Scott's close-up magic. Hank, Bill, Sonny all reacting to it would have been right in my zone.

Speaking of, it's unfortunate that Paxton and Maggie had so little to do beyond pick-up and drop-off Maggie and give hugs, but the film was over-plotted as it was, and I'm glad they took the time to focus on the Van Dynes/(Pyms). This needed to be their movie to keep things somewhat fresh. It was, and it worked!

 

Somebody needs to get Kevin Feige to have a Luis-driven MCU-Recap heading into Avengers 4 next year as promotional material. There were a lot of independent ones going into Infinity War this year, a Marvel-backed Luis-centric one would be outstanding!

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

6 minutes ago, Traveller519 said:

Somebody needs to get Kevin Feige to have a Luis-driven MCU-Recap heading into Avengers 4 next year as promotional material. There were a lot of independent ones going into Infinity War this year, a Marvel-backed Luis-centric one would be outstanding!

That's seriously brilliant. Someone needs to make this happen 

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Terrafamilia

Terrafamilia

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I think a case can be made that MCU Hank Pym is smarter than MCU Tony Stark. Sure, Stark is a brilliant engineer and computer scientist but Pym made a fundamental breakthrough in physics and has the serious engineering chops on top of that. And then there's the whole thing he's done with ants. And his lab must have had some sort of inertial compensation system in place or its contents would have been in shambles after all the jostling it was put through.

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Bruinsfan

Bruinsfan

On 7/19/2018 at 1:08 PM, Traveller519 said:

Somebody needs to get Kevin Feige to have a Luis-driven MCU-Recap heading into Avengers 4 next year as promotional material. There were a lot of independent ones going into Infinity War this year, a Marvel-backed Luis-centric one would be outstanding!

Oh man, just imagine Chris Hemsworth acting out Luis' voiceover the way Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lily were in this one!

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Fukui San

Fukui San

On 7/21/2018 at 8:13 PM, Terrafamilia said:

I think a case can be made that MCU Hank Pym is smarter than MCU Tony Stark. Sure, Stark is a brilliant engineer and computer scientist but Pym made a fundamental breakthrough in physics and has the serious engineering chops on top of that. And then there's the whole thing he's done with ants. And his lab must have had some sort of inertial compensation system in place or its contents would have been in shambles after all the jostling it was put through.

Comics Hank created Ultron for reasons as dumb as MCU Tony and also beat his wife. MCU Hanks a much nicer guy. 

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Sandman

Sandman

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On 7/6/2018 at 10:35 PM, SeanC said:

I think, on balance, I liked this one more than the first one.  The humour is better integrated, and there's no moment where it feels like they ruined the more dramatic/emotional moments with unnecessary jokes, which was a problem in the first (and a lot of the mid-2010s MCU films, culminating in Ragnarok).

The scenes with Scott and Cassie are the highlight of the film.  The actress who plays Cassie is super charming.

I loved this one -- I definitely think it's an improvement over the first one, though the first was lovely. I agree about the sense of humour being more integrated; this movie is what Thor: Ragnarok would have been if the director hadn't found his main character a despicable idiot child. (Sorry: still think the third Thor movie is the worst thing in the MCU -- by far.) Michael Peña is the MVP, but I liked that Lilly's Wasp lightened up a little this time around. (Maybe she was so caustic and snide in first one because they needed her to be waspish?) I knew Luis was never going to get his own suit, even without powers, so was thrilled for him when he got to pick out his own Hot Wheels!

The whole movie was made of "Wheeee!" But that first post-credits teaser brought out audible gasps in my theatre tonight.

I agree about the girl playing Cassie. Rudd seems to love playing opposite her, too.

On 7/8/2018 at 9:21 AM, Lantern7 said:

Also, I’m now hoping Luis appears in the next Avengers movie, just so he can do one of his recaps.

Oh, man! Now I need a Luis speed-reading version of Infinity War. And also all 18 films that led to it. OMG. I NEED IT.

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chitowngirl

chitowngirl

On 7/19/2018 at 2:06 AM, JustaPerson said:

I didn't really realize that the first Ant Man took place in San Francisco (should have noticed when we saw the cable car), but you can't miss it in this one. I liked how they used the city in the set pieces (those unique  roads, the pier, etc.) There are other cities in the world other than NY, MCU! But I'm a west coaster so I'm biased lol

And of course, Lombard Street. Can’t do a movie set in San Francisco without using Lombard Street!

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HunterHunted

HunterHunted

On 7/17/2018 at 11:38 AM, tennisgurl said:

Apparently, Morrisey really is super popular in a lot of Hispanic and Chicano communities, especially in California and the LA area. So, it actually makes total sense that Luis and his grandma love Morrisey, and its not just random, its actually a really specific cultural reference that makes sense for the character. Its great attention to detail.

It really is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/08/why-do-mexican-americans-love-morrissey-so-much/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3e5d63b06b10

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-30/love-affair-between-mexican-americans-and-morrissey-isnt-surprising

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/entertainment/music/article/Melancholy-fuels-fire-that-Morrissey-s-Latino-10616463.php

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Kel Varnsen

Kel Varnsen

Saw it tonight thanks to the cheap theatre inmy town. It was a lot of fun although it did take me awhile to get into it. That car chase was amazing though. And i liked the really smart and creative uses of powers especially by The Wasp. I love when movies really think about hiw useful certain powers would be.

The only thing i didn't care for was some of the fake techno speak which sounded ridiculous. Also it didn't make sense to me at the end why The Ghost was freaking out about being on the run from the law. No one else really knew who she was outside the main characters. Just take off the ghost suit and go on about your life.

Also Hank Pym, I know you have a huge ego, but maybe don't do a crazy experiment like that in the middle of an alien invasion.

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starri

starri

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On 7/15/2018 at 2:35 PM, Spartan Girl said:

But everything else was great. Boy, they did a great job making Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer look younger in that flashback.

I think I was actually more impressed to discover that it wasn't de-aged Douglas and Pfeiffer in those scenes, it was another actor and actress made up to look like them.  What's even more remarkable was that they were both also in the first one, and the young Janet was cast initially because she looked like Michelle Pfeiffer, because she was Peyton Reed's dream for the contemporary Janet, and he was hoping he'd get her eventually.

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festivus

festivus

Finally got to see this. This movie was just pure fun. I love that Wasp got so much to do, the action and fight scenes were really good.

On 7/15/2018 at 1:35 PM, Spartan Girl said:

I love that Scott has such a good relationship with his ex and her husband now. And Cassie is adorable.

This was honestly my favorite part of the movie. I love that the stepdad wants to get in on the hugs now. And Cassie is absolutely the best. I adore that little girl.

Was this the funniest Marvel movie ever? I know I laughed all the way through it.

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Bruinsfan

Bruinsfan

Yeah, it was a little goofy to have the overly huggy family, but I immensely prefer that to a mother and stepfather trying to keep a loving, involved dad from seeing his daughter on her birthday because he's having trouble meeting child support payments on the kinds of jobs an ex con can scavenge. Did they WANT to break Cassie's heart in the first movie?

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starri

starri

The one that kind of bugged me was the product placement.  I accept that product placement is a reality of modern filmmaking, especially for those with huge budgets.  As long as it's not to the level of Smallville's worst excesses, I'm usually willing to overlook it.

"Baskin Robbins always finds out" was funny, and it illustrated the plot point that Scott was struggling to stay on the straight and narrow once out of prison.  Hank keeping the Ant-Man suit in an Altoids tin and Luis fretting over the high cost of a delicious Entemann's pastry didn't really do that.

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JessePinkman

JessePinkman

On 10/20/2018 at 10:16 PM, starri said:

I think I was actually more impressed to discover that it wasn't de-aged Douglas and Pfeiffer in those scenes, it was another actor and actress made up to look like them.  What's even more remarkable was that they were both also in the first one, and the young Janet was cast initially because she looked like Michelle Pfeiffer, because she was Peyton Reed's dream for the contemporary Janet, and he was hoping he'd get her eventually.

This SFX breakdown shows the shot of Hank telling Hope that Janet died and it's Michael Douglas. I don't know what to believe anymore! Maybe it was a combination of both.

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ICantDoThatDave

ICantDoThatDave

On 10/22/2018 at 11:15 AM, JessePinkman said:

This SFX breakdown shows the shot of Hank telling Hope that Janet died and it's Michael Douglas. I don't know what to believe anymore! Maybe it was a combination of both.

In the director's commentary they mention that they use a combination.  They shoot the actual actors doing a scene, then shoot a younger "lookalike" doing the same scene.  The CGI then de-ages the actual actor's face & superimposes it onto the lookalike's body.  I guess it's easier than trying to digitally de-age the real actor's entire body.

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HunterHunted

HunterHunted

On 10/24/2018 at 12:36 AM, VCRTracking said:

I'm biased because I live here but San Francisco really is the best place for car chases.

I'm disagreeing with you only slightly. I grew up in Pittsburgh. It's been depicted on film a fair amount, but rarely as itself. Pittsburgh has hills, bridges, and flat areas. If a movie truly took advantage of the town, we'd see roads on hills too steep to climb and roads that actually cross themselves.

On 10/24/2018 at 12:36 AM, VCRTracking said:

Scott really is the best dad in the MCU.

He really is. It's mostly because he has so little ego. When you look at all of the bad parents of the MCU, ego (and vanity) is usually the reason why those parents suck.

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Unusual Suspect

Unusual Suspect

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16 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

To be fair though, the bar is so low that Howard Stark is a contender for top 3 best dad's in the MCU.

Also there's just a lack of Dad's that we've actually seen. There's Howard, Odin, Scott, T'Chaka, and Ego ... does Nick Nolte (Bruce Banner's father from the Ang Lee Hulk) even count? Am I missing one?

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Kel Varnsen

Kel Varnsen

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5 hours ago, Unusual Suspect said:

Also there's just a lack of Dad's that we've actually seen. There's Howard, Odin, Scott, T'Chaka, and Ego ... does Nick Nolte (Bruce Banner's father from the Ang Lee Hulk) even count? Am I missing one?

 

There is also Clint, who would have been my number 2 pick. And of course Thanos.

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