S07.E10: Fertile Myrtle

[druzy]

Amber shocks her whole family when she reveals she’s pregnant.

Bentley turns 9 and Maci allows him to spend time with Ryan.

Deb tries to persuade Sophia to go to her wedding.

Catelynn secretly removed her IUD and has a big surprise for Tyler.

[leighroda]

Tbh, this episode title seems really inappropriate... I know it’s in reference to Amber... but considering possibly 2 cast members (Maci, and I’m pretty sure they are implying that Catelynn has or will have a miscarriage within the next few episodes) have had a miscarriage. Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself since this hasn’t aired yet and we don’t know the context, but it’s still pretty insensitive, even if when this episode was filmed, they didn’t know about the miscarriages, they certainly knew during editing and when they made the episode title.

Edited January 26, 2018 by leighroda

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, druzy said:

Amber shocks her whole family when she reveals she’s pregnant.

Bentley turns 9 and Maci allows him to spend time with Ryan.

Deb tries to persuade Sophia to go to her wedding.

Catelynn secretly removed her IUD and has a big surprise for Tyler.

While on a hay ride, Amber shocks her family by introducing her barely-met boyfriend and then revealing she is pregnant. Whether it is his baby or not, remains to be seen. 

Bentley turns 9 and Maci allows him to spend time with Ryan without the benefit of a confirmed drug-test. 

Deb manipulates and uses guilt on Sophia in order to persuade Farrah to allow her child to go to her entanglement to that pervert. 

Edited January 27, 2018 by GreatKazu

[monicageller]

On 1/27/2018 at 10:36 AM, leighroda said:

Tbh, this episode title seems really inappropriate... I know it’s in reference to Amber... but considering possibly 2 cast members (Maci, and I’m pretty sure they are implying that Catelynn has or will have a miscarriage within the next few episodes) have had a miscarriage. Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself since this hasn’t aired yet and we don’t know the context, but it’s still pretty insensitive, even if when this episode was filmed, they didn’t know about the miscarriages, they certainly knew during editing and when they made the episode title.

 

I agree. I thought the episode title came from Maci, as it sounds like a phrase she would say, but your point stands regardless of the origin of the title. Insensitive and rude.

Edited January 29, 2018 by monicageller

[CofCinci]

Who know if Maci and Catelynn’s miscarriages are real?!  There are so many lies. 

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

Who know if Maci and Catelynn’s miscarriages are real?!  There are so many lies. 

That's what I thought too. 

Damn, I am getting cynical. I'm still trying to figure out of the Kardashian "robbery" was real. 

[Brooklynista]

Are we live chatting??

Im dying over here.

[druzy]

New Matt is gross! I spy something with a "T"

[Brooklynista]

Yeah right Cate. You'd be the last one invited to a party in Tyler's pants.

[druzy]

Taylor quit his day job to jump on a trampoline-idiot.

[DudeLeaveMeAlone]

The DJ actually had the Debz OG song?? That’s a likely to happen as mistaking Farrah for being all natural.

[druzy]

Amber's mom said treat my daughter good and New Matt said I hear what you are saying. He is very cold.

[poeticlicensed]

DebzOG omg how humiliating. Woman is deluded . David is,a jackass, but Farrah is feeding David hate to Sophia. Im sorry but a 7 year old goes to their grandmas wedding. 

Cate and Tyler. Gross

 Gary, as always, speaks truth. 

[Chris Knight]

Catelynn, you are going to be very embarrassed when The Parrot tells the kids on the playground that her dad has a party in his pants.

[druzy]

Ryan can't even get up from the couch to give Bentley a hug. 

Cate stop confiding in future New Cate!

[Brooklynista]

Catelynn is a sloppy damn mess. Does she ever fix herself up? A little something something so Tyler can at least pretend to be attracted to her.

My money says Future New Cate tm @Druzy is the one that really peed on the stick and Cate was never really pregnant.

Edited January 30, 2018 by Brooklynista

[DudeLeaveMeAlone]

My money is on Kousin Krystal being the leak re Ambers pregnancy news. 

 

Amber’s moms voice GRATES. 

[FairyDusted]

I realllllllly hate to think that. But I do. @Brooklynista

Edited January 30, 2018 by FairyDusted

[druzy]

Nothing gets Amber upset like seeing New Matt sad. I'm sure Leah gets upset when Amber cancels plans at the last minute. Does she not care about Leah's feelings?

[FairyDusted]

Nope. Not a bit @druzy She cares about her couch.

[druzy]

Why is Nova holding the pee stick?

[Brooklynista]

Just now, druzy said:

Why is Nova holding the pee stick?

Why is the pee stick on the kitchen table.?

[CaliforniaLove]

2 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

Nope. Not a bit @druzy She cares about her couch.

That's NewMatt's appeal...he resembles a couch.

The scene in the car with Catelynn & Tyler was annoying to watch..."Punkins?!"..."Pumpkins!"..."we see punkins?"..."yes we're going to see some!!"...silence...silence...silence...cringeworthy flirting..."Punkins! Punkins! Punkins!". ?

[woodscommaelle]

 I feel like Ryan went to the tux store at 2 in the morning expecting them to be open.

DebOGZ invited Jenelle's ex husband/boyfriend?  Come on Deb.  Chill the fuck out for a minute.

[jenifaohjenny]

Shouldn’t Nova be talking more for her age? And so much for Caitlin losing weight before the pregnancy. 

 

I dont get new Matt’s game? Like Amber isn’t smart and I cannot imagine holding daily conversations with her about...anything!? But if he was fully employed and from Malibu...he could not do better? 

 

Deb invited Amber and Nathan to her wedding????

Edited January 30, 2018 by jenifaohjenny

[Linny]

Farrah tossing back her drink watching Deb make a spectacle of herself is some kind of mood. I'm 100% over the relentless discussion of Deb's wedding and Sophia appears to agree with me. I'm sure Sophia is feeding off Farrah's feelings when it comes to Deb and David, but the poor kid is also mentally checking out every time someone questions her about the situation. Deb needs to stop trying to manipulate Sophia by buying her gifts and accept that Sophia's presence at the wedding is in Farrah's hands, like it or not.

I don't really know what to say about Catelynn's pregnancy reveal since to my knowledge neither she or Tyler have talked about it, which isn't a good sign. But taking a pregnancy test in a restaurant bathroom while being filmed by MTV is possibly one of the least classy things she could have done, and I hope no patrons of that restaurant were prevented from using the bathroom thanks to Catelynn monopolizing it.

Ryan seriously couldn't get off the couch to greet Bentley or even sit up for that matter. Come on, dude, this is the kid you've been begging to see, at least get up and hug him. I'm glad Bentley is getting to see that side of his family because I do think it's important for him, but it saddens me that Ryan continues to be so lackadaisical as a father.

I'd be interested to know Amber's rationale for announcing her pregnancy in the middle of a pumpkin picking excursion, because damned if I can find one. Her reveal was rather lackluster, I'm disappointed she didn't aim for some cutesy reveal (like saying "Andrew and I need a baby pumpkin because I'm pregnant!" and then tossing the pumpkin to Leah to deal with while Amber does her own thing). I feel the same way about her pregnancy information getting leaked as I did when it happened to Kail: if you're going to live your life in front of a camera and across all social media platforms, don't act amazed when your news spreads. People feel entitled to talk about Amber's personal business because she makes it her business to be so public, and Andrew needs to get comfortable with that fact since it ain't changing anytime soon.

[Caseysgirl]

It is clear that Tyler & Caitlyn know nothing about parenting the child they have.  She was obviously irritable, either having just woken from a nap or not having a nap. A three year old does not have to be offered three or more options about a drink that's going to be in the car. Tyler had a very short fuse "ok then you don't get any!" Caitlyn overrode that decision anyway. I think when Tyler posted " I want a new one" he meant he would like to trade in the one he has.  Mackenzie, you are really quite the bitch, aren't you?  I can't even get pissed about her, because being with Ryan is its own punishment.Think poor Amber's mother was completely blindsided because Amber chose to do it on television with a million eyes on her. I think she was intimidated enough to be on camera without that bombshell.  Boy, talk about a child being brain washed! Sophia repeats for the camera exactly what she has been fed by Mom.  This is probably exactly how Deb and Farrah interacted until puberty reared its ugly head and Farrah totally rebelled.  Looking forward to watching what happens in the next 5 to 8 years with Derek's little girl. (I believe that Farrah has rewritten history a bit or she was lying about her relationship before).

[Juniebaby]

I felt so bad for Leah.  Not only did Amber show zero warmth to her daughter that she barely gets off her ass to see, but she didn’t even speak to her privately about being pregnant.  Most Moms in her situation would let their kid know they will always love them and won’t forget them but she’s not doing that now, how much worse can she be?  Ryan, get off the couch, get out from under that blanket and play with the kid you have been complaining you don’t get to see.  Does he or Mack have a job?

[pheebs]

Amber's Mom - shaky, helium-voiced, blankly tearful blinking... I felt her terror through the screen. 

Farrah and her "Talking Tina doll" - I mean Mowgli, can you feel my terror through the screen? She's so emotionless, so completely absent of any trace of anything akin to a grip on reality. Her growling, "It's not about my wedding right now, we're talking about yours,"  as she looks down with her eyes like Jack Nicholson in the black turtleneck going insane at the Overlook Hotel. *crosses myself*

NuCate blurts out, "How many do you plan on having? 'Cuz I know Tyler's talking about alot,"  with a knowing smile. Oh, I'm sure she means with...Cate? Sure, Jan.

Speaking of the Nu - I'm finding out "nu" ways that NuMatt annoys me. Last week, the lamprey lips, (thank you whoever figured that out!) This week it's his labored, nasally breathing and voice, combined with his non-existent social skills, and just a whiff of condescension. I'm guessing coke.

DebzOJeezusShe's Fucking Nutz. Is she always just *this* close to sobs? 

 Maci's house is a hot mess, Maci's face is a hot mess, her hair is greasey hot mess. 

I feel like "David After Dentist," - "IS THIS REAL LIFE?"

Edited January 30, 2018 by pheebs
catholicism!

[WhosThatGirl]

What did I just watch? I watched on dvr and had to flash forward and seriously everything was so uncomfortable to watch.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

Mackenzie is one nasty little garbage bag. I wouldn't want to be around her for a second. 

Is Nova... okay? It seems like all she can do is stare blankly or shriek and flail. Is that a developmental issue or just a lack of quality interaction/stimulation? Tyler and Catelynn's "no doesn't really mean no" parenting style will bite them in the asses in a few years.

Amber and her mom have such similar mannerisms. The way the mom held up her hand and said "I'm SHAKE-een"! was classic Portwood. 

Nobody on this show should have gotten anywhere NEAR pregnant last year. Bad decisions galore. I respect none of you and no one advances to the next round!!!

[TeeMo]

I wonder a bit if Farrah's constant pushing of the "Sophia doesn't like David" stuff stems from her own issues with the myriad men Deb brought home when she was growing up. Didn't Farrah or Michael allude to Deb sneaking men in and out of the house in the past? I could see Farrah using Sophia as a way to express some of her repressed feelings about all of that. In that scene of just Farrah and Sophia, Farrah seemed to be softening maybe a bit about the wedding and opening the door for Sophia to say she wanted to go but she didn't. Sophia kept insisting that she doesn't like David. Farrah had an uncharacteristically thoughtful look on her face as they talked and then said something like "I am proud of you for saying how you feel about it and hopefully Grandma will understand." If Farrah feels like her own feelings were never heard or acknowledged by Deb in the past it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to think that all of that resentment is manifesting itself now through Sophia. 

[Blissfool]

2 hours ago, druzy said:

New Matt is gross! I spy something with a "T"

He probably meant 'tree,' but then amber took it there.

 

1 hour ago, woodscommaelle said:

 I feel like Ryan went to the tux store at 2 in the morning expecting them to be open.

 

On the way to his dealer.

 

43 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

A three year old does not have to be offered three or more options about a drink that's going to be in the ...

Just like a seven year old doesn't get to choose whether or not she attends her grandma's wedding.

I thought it was very nice of Michael to try to go to bat for Debra. 

 

41 minutes ago, Juniebaby said:

I felt so bad for Leah.  Not only did Amber show zero warmth to her daughter that she barely gets off her ass to see, but she didn’t even speak to her privately about being pregnant.  

If Leah is BoogerButt, will the new baby be Shithead?

 

35 minutes ago, pheebs said:

Amber's Mom - shaky, helium-voiced, blankly tearful blinking... I felt her terror through the screen. 

If you think Amber's mom was shocked, you should have seen my DVR. It froze, shutdown, and rebooted as soon as Amber uttered the words "I'm pregnant." Seriously.

 

In a previous show's thread someone pointed out how NewMatt's beard grows full all the way to his lips. Tonight I noticed it and now it's all I can see. 

 

The lyrics of the song at the end:  ?...stuck in a maze, repeating all the same mistakes...?  Girls, this is shade. Teen Mom Inc. does not like you.

[Marisagf]

25 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

He probably meant 'tree,' but then amber took it there.

 

On the way to his dealer.

 

Just like a seven year old doesn't get to choose whether or not she attends her grandma's wedding.

I thought it was very nice of Michael to try to go to bat for Debra. 

 

If Leah is BoogerButt, will the new baby be Shithead?

 

If you think Amber's mom was shocked, you should have seen my DVR. It froze, shutdown, and rebooted as soon as Amber uttered the words "I'm pregnant." Seriously.

 

In a previous show's thread someone pointed out how NewMatt's beard grows full all the way to his lips. Tonight I noticed it and now it's all I can see. 

 

The lyrics of the song at the end:  ?...stuck in a maze, repeating all the same mistakes...?  Girls, this is shade. Teen Mom Inc. does not like you.

I noticed that, too! Along with Farrah's demon eyes making another appearance.

[RoxieRambles]

Eww Catelynn, "I want to have a party in your pants", this just sounds wrong coming out of your mouth.

[MinorL]

I believe Maci about the drug test. I don’t trust Ryan or MacKenzie for a second. And I love Mac complaining that they haven’t gotten an RSVP back after how shady they were about the invitation. You all are right. She is trash. 

[SPLAIN]

1 hour ago, Caseysgirl said:

  Looking forward to watching what happens in the next 5 to 8 years with Derek's little girl. (I believe that Farrah has rewritten history a bit or she was lying about her relationship before).

Sophia is Derek's child. Paternity was established when Farrah requested social security benefits for Sophia. Derek's sister helped Farrah with that test.

1 hour ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

Is Nova... okay? It seems like all she can do is stare blankly or shriek and flail. Is that a developmental issue or just a lack of quality interaction/stimulation? Tyler and Catelynn's "no doesn't really mean no" parenting style will bite them in the asses in a few years.

Nobody on this show should have gotten anywhere NEAR pregnant last year. Bad decisions galore. I respect none of you and no one advances to the next round!!!

I am glad you pointed that out about Nova. I wanted to mention it before, but I felt as if maybe I was just looking at her in a different way because of C&T being her bio parents. She seems like a child who is left to her own devices far too often. Catelynn is wanting a child so Nova will have someone to entertain her. Oh, and to keep Tyler around and make him feel guilty if he left the relationship and left her saddled with two children.

2 hours ago, Juniebaby said:

 Does he or Mack have a job?

They have the same job as Maci - MTV.

What on earth does Maci do all day? I know Chelsea has a messy home, but she is home all day with her toddler. She then has Aubree home when she comes home from school. Maci has her kids in day-care all day long while Bentley is in school. Maci's home, particularly her kitchen was in such disarray. A big pile of papers on the microwave. I have noticed that stack there for quite some time. I haven't posted about it thinking it was just the same day or the same week. It made me want to clean. That is not a good thing, especially when my home is already clean.

[FlowerofCarnage]

Amber's mom reaction to the pregnancy...poor woman was shaking because she knows this will end in disaster. Her whole speech to Andrew about treating Amber right and being a decent person was her way hoping this baby will have one decent parent. 

Of course it would never occur to a woman who eats her own eye boogers that giving your used pee stick to you toddler is gross and unsanitary.

Edited January 30, 2018 by FlowerofCarnage

[RoxieRambles]

I can't stand Mac! Ugh...

Deb, get it together woman! 

Catelynn actually looked really pretty and happy (glowing) when she made the pregnancy announcement.

[eskimo]

Whether or not Farrah chooses to let Sophia decide if they go to the wedding, she should NOT have a fight with about-to-break-down Deb in front of Sophia about how it's because of Sophia that they're not going.  Sophia must feel like this turmoil between her mom and grandma is her fault.  If she sides with Farrah, Deb will be upset, and if she sides with Deb, Farrah will be upset.  Lose-lose for poor Soph.  And I'm sure she loves the approval Farrah gives her when she expresses her dislike for David (which I'm sure has a genuine component in addition to what's been pounded in by Farrah.  Kids can see through assholes).  

If I was not going to an event because my child actually had strong feelings about something, I would be her shield and say it was my choice.  That way she would not have to feel responsible for the shit storm it stirred up. 

[For Cereals]

1 hour ago, Blissfool said:

I thought it was very nice of Michael to try to go to bat for Debra. 

Yeah and I thought it was funny how uncomfortable he looked when he was having the side convo with Debra and kept glancing at Farrah like, “she can’t see us talking, or my gravy train is over.” 

 

Tyler looked so happy! Not!  Burying your face in your hands is a good way to hide your true reaction...

Edited January 30, 2018 by For Cereals

[Calm81]

I love Leah to death but man that girl was feeding cousin Krystal’s sons ass his own diaper while carrying him. Poor kid needed that diaper surgically removed from his whittle bottom afterwards. ?

Ambers Mom is very socially awkward. She just seemed odd with meeting new people, unless of course it’s because she questions any man dating Amber post Gary.

Not great when you reveal pregnancy news and one person is yelling “shut up you’re not” repeatedly while the other appears to have gotten told her daughter was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

And Amber is going to be one of those pregnant chics that have to bring up or exaggerate her pregnancy symptoms constantly. Sympathy whore.

I wonder if Rhine even knows that Mac intentionally omitted Taylors name from the wedding and added Macis maiden name? That could be a great thing to bring up as he’s wondering about the RSVP status. 

Debra is certifiable. How dare she put Sophia on the spot like that after her mother already stated her feelings to avoid any further upset for that child. Crying like that? Manipulative. She’s destroying her relationship with her grandchild for the sake of drama for the cameras. These families are worst off with the money and attention than they were before the MTV crew came into their lives.

Catelynn stay away from New Cate. She’s collecting personal info from you while Tyler vents about life with you to her. Not cool. And when she said “that would be just my luck to be infertile” I wanted to shake my laptop. I bet a lot of infertile women loved hearing a biological mother of two complain about unfairness with fertility just after one month after taking out birth control so actively trying for under a month. SMH. Go eat your fries.

Edited January 30, 2018 by Calm81

[Bridget]

Anyone else weirded out when Farrah was talking to Sophia about how they know how to "pick out a man?" and "won't settle for just anyone" ? This whole episode was awkward with a capital A!

From Catelynn putting her pregnancy test on the freakin germ infested diaper change table in the bathroom to no one even asking Mowgli why she doesn't like David (not that Sophia needs to be asked another damn thing, but I kept waiting for Michael or Debra to ask "why don't you like him?" ), this whole episode, minus the Maci scenes, gave me major anxiety.

I'm not a germophobe, but I kept thinking that Cate, whose nearly three year old kid (time of filming) has the *same verbal range of NuCate's much younger son, placed the pregnancy test on the diaper change table!  Countless babies' diapers (and what's been in those diapers!) have  been on that table and you're going to touch and keep that test?!?!?!

*Several weeks ago, someone posted that they talk to Nova like a dog and that is totally right. (Sorry I can't remember the OP, but props to you!)

NewMatt is weird. When talking about officially meeting Amber's mom, the nimrod said "it's up to her to remember me." Um, no you asshole. The youngest person always says hello or reintroduces themselves to their elders first, no matter how many times they've " kinda, sorta met. " He is also looks like a grade A mouth breather too; he is definitely several fries short of a Happy Meal. He's too old to be that socially awkward, especially if he really did work in the "entertainment industry." That creepy smile he wears isn't fooling anyone. And when the hell did it become acceptable to grab/tweak a woman's breasts as a sign of affection? While driving? And while playing "I Spy"? That scene made me want to reach out and slap him. That really struck a nerve with me; and while filming too! Something is definitely psychologically wrong with the both of those morons. What a great impression to give off to America. 

Mackenzie is a raging beeyotch who married a guy who clearly prefers the company of their dog (and his couch) to his son or his wife! Did Ryan sound high when he was on the phone with Bentley & wishing him a happy birthday or was it me?

[leighroda]

30 minutes ago, Calm81 said:

nd Amber is going to be one of those pregnant chics that have to bring up or exaggerate her pregnancy symptoms constantly. Sympathy whore.

She already is, just last week she posted a picture where numatt wash pushing her around in a wheelchair at Walmart ?‍♀️

[SuzWhat]

Which one of us is going to tell Cate you need to have sex to get pregnant?  You’d think she’d be on to it by now.  I don’t believe the pregnancy test.  Maybe I just don’t t want to.  Poor NotCarly and NotCarly 2.0  

 The song at the end was perfect.  “Another one trapped in the maze, repeating all the same mistakes”. 

Edited January 30, 2018 by SuzWhat

[CofCinci]

-I wrote this in another thread but I mention it again. We have 3 pregnancies the moment Briana is added to TM2...

-Why did Tyler put the trampoline in the front yard? They have a sweet backyard party area. Perhaps party buddies don’t want to see their children while they’re Bud Lighting it up so that’s why they put it in the front?

-Amber told Leah and Gary by phone? Why not just do it in person. Oh yeah, because she doesn’t see the child if the cameras aren’t around. 

-Tyler on the party in [his] pants: “It’s closed to a prior engagement.”  Then Catelynn replies, “Yeah, your hand.”  Yep, believe it’s his hand Catelynn. I really have no idea how she got pregnant. 

-Why the hell would Farrah want her daughter to go to the same wedding that Amber, who wants to physically harm Farrah, was invited. Amber is an uncontrollable beast. 

-It was fucked up of Deb to bring up that Daddy Derek “hurt” Farrah while Mowgli Monroe was right there. The kid has no memories of her father. Now she has the imagine of Derek hurting her mother.  She held on to Farrah for the rest of the scene. 

-Amber and Andrew supposedly shared a connection and spent time during Marriage Boot Camp filming, but her mother (who was there for the whole 2 weeks) doesn’t remember him....

-I wonder how often Mimi Jen and Larry are responsible for Hudson.  Also, shouldn’t Hudson have been in a booster seat in the car?  For most states is 8 years/80 pounds.

-Mack’s engagement ring is fake?!  Hahahahah. 

-Ryan was doing his best Amber impression with his couch. Can’t even be bothered to even try to sit up or greet the kid he cries over not being able to see.

-Haley: “Because I KNOW Tyler’s talking about a lot [of kids].”  Bitch, you don’t know Tyler like that — or do you....

-Amber still has all of Matt’s fake ebay music memorabilia. I figured she would have smashed everything during a fight with Matt a few months ago.  It shows that when Matt left he was so confident that he was coming back. 

-Deb, crocodile tears do not work on ex-husbands. 

-Mack is such a snake. She’s telling Ryan that Maci hasn’t RSVP’d to the wedding but it sounds like she did — and that Mack faux apologizes for leaving Taylor and the other children off the invitation. 

-Tyler on Nova being a big sister. “No, she’s not. No, she’s not. No, she’s not,” and a “you’ve gotta be on drugs right now.”  He couldn’t even be bothered to get out of his chair. 

-Next week: Looks like trouble in paradise already for Amber and Andrew. 

[Brooklynista]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

-Haley: “Because I KNOW Tyler’s talking about a lot [of kids].”  Bitch, you don’t know Tyler like that — or do you....

 

I imagine Tyler is telling NuCate that if he had a different life,  with a different wife he would have a lot of kids. If only there was some other attractive, lively, willing gal around.

[mscav]

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It was fucked up of Deb to bring up that Daddy Derek “hurt” Farrah while Mowgli Monroe was right there. The kid has no memories of her father. Now she has the imagine of Derek hurting her mother.  She held on to Farrah for the rest of the scene. 

I wonder how often Deb does that.  If it's fairly often that would explain why Sophia doesn't want to be around  her any more. While I think Farrah encourages Sophia to hate on David,  I also think Sophia had seen enough of his behavior to realize he's not a great person herself. From what we've seen on the show he ignores Sophia and treats her mom like crap in front of her. No matter how bad Farrah may be she is Sophia's mom and Sophia loves her.

I agree with everyone else that Ryan was high AF when Bentley got there and could care less that he was there. Did love him embarrassing Mac by telling everyone about her fake ring.

I think Amber's new man is sloooow. He seems to have the maturity of a 12 year old.

Edited January 30, 2018 by mscav

[ghoulina]

It's kind of uncomfortable watching Cate's pregnancy reveal, knowing she lost the baby. It's made all the more uncomfortable by the nagging feeling that SHE didn't really want another kid, that she's doing this for Tyler, and that his reaction is one of pure "what the fuckery". Damn, dude. You pressed for this. Stop pretending like it's crazy news. 

The most uncomfortable, though? Watching her attempt at flirting in the car. Talking about a "party in your pants" right in front of Nova, and then he jokingly declines in favor of his hand. Or not so jokingly. And then you realize they probably really DID have sex....and the discomfort rises.

 

I was glad to see Maci relented and let Bentley go with his dad's family for his birthday. I am with her on holding out for that drug test, but it would have hurt Bentley too badly not to see them for that big day. And by "them" I mean Mimi Jen and Larry. I still think his relationship with Ryan is like that of a distant uncle. 

I know it only took 5 minutes, but it kind of bothered me that the first thing they did on Bentley's birthday was take him to be fitted for a tux. And Ryan still hasn't even done his yet! He went there, but they were closed. Yea, I bet he was out tooling around high, at 2 am, looking for a Taco Bell, saw the tux place and remembered, "Oh yea, I gotta get my fitting done! Huh, wonder why they're not open."

I REALLY hated how he started ragging on Bentley as soon as he walked in - making fun of his sweater and the gloves he wears during football. Ass. This is why I don't see him as a father figure. He acts more like a child than his own child does. 

And the tension with him and Mack is just so awkward. Why is she wearing a $10 ring on her hand??? Does she really think she's one of those people with such an expensive ring she has to fake people out? Get over yourself. 

 

I would never go on vacation with Deb. She ruins everything. How did that Kareoke bar even get her music? Does she seriously travel with that shit? Forgive me, that is NOT music. 

But Italy will forever be tainted by her crying and manipulating. Now, let me make one thing clear - I don't think that Sophia really gives that much of a fuck about David. I hate David, but I 100% believe that she parroting things she's heard Farrah say, acting on what she thinks her mother would want her to do. Farrah is the type to phrase questions like, "You don't want to go to the wedding, DO YOU?" That being said, Deb is the grandmother here, and should respect the parent's wishes. Showing those dresses to Sophia, then stipulating that she only gets one if she wears it to the wedding, was such a disgusting thing to do. She's not helping matters at all. 

And then she pulls poor Michael, who's still glowing from his proposal, into an alleyway to cry to HIM. As if he has any control over the situation. He's just trying to maintain the status quo, and I can't say I blame him. (I also noticed that Sophia spoke normally when with him. Less time around the crazy women, more time with Grandpa!)

 

Could Amber's mother be any more horrified by her pregnancy reveal? And Amber just laughs off her concern, "What, mom??? Don't be silly. We've known each other a whole 45 days!!! I don't know his middle name and he doesn't work, but he puts really cool drawings on Instagram and doesn't have a plethora of children scattered across the eastern seaboard. What could be more perfect?" Just wait til Mama finds out about the restraining orders. 

But Kristal...she's ready to eat that shit right up. She was practically drooling over how tall he is. I mean, I like tall dudes too....but NuMatt is sooooo weird. He doesn't talk. At all. He doesn't make an attempt to get to know any of them, reassure them, even make Leah feel comfortable. He just follows Amber around like a hulking, mute St. Bernard (but much uglier). 

(And what was that gross shit he said in the car - "I spy, with my little eye, something that starts with a T"? Meaning "tittie". I thought - hers or YOURS?)

I find it very telling that Kristina mentioned Leah doesn't talk about the pregnancy at all. She probably cannot even articulate why it bothers her, but that little girl can sense a bad situation a brewin'. 

[CofCinci]

47 minutes ago, mscav said:

I think Amber's new man is sloooow.

I don't think she is slow.  He was only planning to party/chill with Amber in between camera gigs and now she is pregnant.  He's not into her and has no interest in developing a relationship with her family.  There is no love there.

13 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I REALLY hated how he started ragging on Bentley as soon as he walked in - making fun of his sweater and the gloves he wears during football. Ass. This is why I don't see him as a father figure. He acts more like a child than his own child does. 

Ryan has always been a jealous dick towards his little brother Bentley.