S07.E04: The Spoils of War

[Drogo]

4 minutes ago, SoWindsor said:

I think he believes jon will be convinced of something when she shares her stories/opinions. Not sure what exactly. 

I think Davos has his heart set on Jon making a special kind of alliance with Daenerys, one that would benefit the whole of the Seven Kingdoms and not require any bending of knees.   

He might be fashioning a ring out of a 5karat dragonstone and slipping that puppy into the KiTN's pocket.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

20 minutes ago, taanja said:

Is Littlefinger on Arya's list?

Not yet. You can see everyone on Arya's list (and who isn't dead yet).

[Daisy]

So this is interesting. 
Sansa continues to lament that there is a lack of food in the storeholds. 
Cersei knows there's a lack of food in the storeholds in KL. 
and Dany Dragon'ed all the food that Jamie got from the Reach, which was stated as this years crops. 

So Westeros is going to be going hungry this winter. 

[Drogo]

[Dobian]

7 hours ago, DrScottie said:

Jon Snow and Tyrion? One of them is her nephew and the other might well be her half-brother if his father were actually the Mad King, not Tywin. We already know that the dragons were okay with Tyrion.  

Plus, seeing Jon Snow take on an army of White Walkers with a dragon. Awesome. 

If Jon Snow had one of the dragons, they'd be sitting together on a cliff somewhere brooding.  If Tyrion had one he'd be flying it to pubs and whore houses to impress the women.

[candall]

I have only to add that Bran had a distinct foreshadowing hesitation when he gave Arya the dragonstone dagger.  He was seeing something that gave him pause--maybe a flash that giving it to her saves her life or costs him his, or which heart that blade will pierce, something.

 

But ha, don't listen to me--I couldn't figure out this Dickon Tarly person until I googled.  I guess I haven't ever been invested in Sam enough to mark his last name.  And I certainly never expected to run into Mr. "This is venison from an earlier hunt" again.

 

My tv doesn't have the greatest definition, but I was squinting as hard as I could at Jamie sinking for a long, long time.  If someone's going to fish him out, they need to get right on that.

[CeeBeeGee]

1 hour ago, gbbarb said:

Why would Arya be more suitable than Sansa?  We have seen nothing on the show that would indicate that message.  Sansa hate is so tiring.

Right? They've had multiple scenes where Sansa is shown making sound administrative decisions. She's obviously been very good so far at leading Winterfell.

[DrSpaceman73]

This was a pretty dull episode until the battle at the end, but that made up for it. 

I do hope Bronn survives all this somehow.  I wish he were on the other side. 

Will be interesting to see if Jaime ends up surviving.  Recall Tyrion also was dragged to the bottom of the water in I believe Valyria by the stone people and ended up surviving, was never clear on HOW he got out of that, they showed him sinking just like this one episode and the next he was on shore with Jorah by him.  Do Lannisters somehow have secret gills or something?  Doesn't match up with Lions, who don't swim well. 

Dany should have zigged or zagged or something when she saw the arrow was going to be shot.  You don't line up and go straight for them, come in from the side.  Sure he could turn, but make it a challenge. 

Edited August 7, 2017 by DrSpaceman73

[Popples]

5 minutes ago, candall said:

But ha, don't listen to me--I couldn't figure out this Dickon Tarly person until I googled.  I guess I haven't ever been invested in Sam enough to mark his last name.  And I certainly never expected to run into Mr. "This is venison from an earlier hunt" again.

They also recast the actor from last season. I can't complain because new Dickon is quite attractive.

On re-watch, I forgot how horrifying it was to see the Lannister soldiers that are burning alive desperate to get to the water.

[DrSpaceman73]

Oh and Cersei now and the iron bank.......goodbye gold.  What is her back up plan?  Probably try to seduce the banker guy or something.  Or just kill him, the more likely scenario. 

[Drogo]

4 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Dany should have zigged or zagged or something when she saw the arrow was going to be shot.  You don't line up and go straight for them, come in from the side.  Sure he could turn, but make it a challenge. 

Dragons:  The Rickon Starks of the Sky.

[candall]

3 minutes ago, Dobian said:

If Tyrion had one he'd be flying it to pubs and whore houses to impress the women.

No!  Ever since Tyrion told about wanting a dragon as a little boy--"just a little one because I was little"--I've been LIVING for him to mount up.   Cersei pinched his pink baby penis, he got guilt-tripped about his mother, his big-shot father wanted to drown him, everyone said he was stupid for wanting a dragon . . . 

Put that man on a dragon, damn it!

[Lamima]

11 hours ago, Haiti D said:

 

by the way... who is left on Arya's List besides Cersei.  Illyn Payne?

The Mountain ...no?

Edited August 7, 2017 by Lamima

[maystone]

9 hours ago, CeeBeeGee said:

Small nitpick: Jaime was never the Hand of the Mad King. (That was his father Tywin, and then Jon Arryn.) Jaime was a member of the Kingsguard.

 

But your point is well-taken. Jaime was clearly in awe (and I rather love that, so often he is smirking and quippy and dismissive), watching Dany ride Drogon.

Thanks for the clarification. I lost track of my hands :)

[SimoneS]

I also loved Missandei telling Davos and Jon that Daenerys was the queen that they chose.

[MissL]

The battle was epic and I was having a really hard time because I didn't want Bronn to die but I didn't want him to kill the dragon...that whole series of scenes at the end was very tense for me.

The other thought I keep having is who is going to be left to fight the night King? Yeah ok Dany has to fight Cersei but the Lannister army does seem to be well run and experienced and now they are toast. They would have been a real asset against the white walkers.  It's the same everywhere.  After years of war on multiple fronts so many of the fighters for the living  have been taken out already.  Add that to diminishing food supplies and there is some serious hurt coming.  Someone upthread said they wished  Bronn was on the other side...im waiting for the day when ALL our characters are fighting on the same side. That's going to be a battle to behold.

[Shermie]

The battle reminded me of Vikings, where the Vikings were brutal and fearless and so damn frightening to the British, whose fighting style was more formed and ordered. 

I'm confused about the gold. I thought it was in those wagons, being transported along with the food. That's why they made such a big deal about Cersei's Lannister loans "when the gold gets here". I thought it got torched by the dragon, which would mean it's all a bunch of melted blobs for someone to scavenge for later among the scorched ruins. But others said the gold made it to KL?

I also find it funny that people are so mad that a dragon might die. It's just a fictional animal. And that thousands of fictional humans die in this show, some of them beloved characters with actual personalities, as well as many horses and some dire wolves, but the death of a giant lizard is too much?

[BitterApple]

24 minutes ago, MissL said:

  After years of war on multiple fronts so many of the fighters for the living  have been taken out already.  Add that to diminishing food supplies and there is some serious hurt coming. 

I was thinking about that as well. Stannis' army is gone, the Bolton army is gone, Jon lost a ton of men in the BoB, Yara's army is gone, the Tyrell's are gone and the Lannisters just lost a nice chunk of their forces. Who's left to fight the WW's? I guess it's up to the Dothraki and whatever's left of the North.

Shermie, I agree about the dragons. They're cool and all, but their continued survival or lack thereof, doesn't make or break my attachment to the show. For me, they're just an extension of Dany, who's never been a favorite of mine in the first place. If they live great, if they don't it's sad, but oh well. I feel worse for the horses who get absolutely wrecked in these types of battles.

[enoughcats]

Could the dragons reproduce?  All it takes is a male dragon and a female dragon and some magic.  And more dragon eggs to hatch to change the ballance of power.   

[Keepitmoving]

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This episode made me feel like-- yes-- Tyrion may betray Dany? especially if it comes down to Jamie or Dany. Once a Lannister-- always a Lannister.

And Jamie did save his life, Jamie doesn't hate him, he does care about him unlike that horrid, hateful sister of his. Yeah, I saw it too, how Tyrion could be compromised where Jamie is concerned.

 

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I think Sansa was awakening from her Queen of the North fantasies and realizing that Arya, not her should be the ruler of Winterfell. 

I don't think this, but yes Sansa might because she's realized how silly she use to be with her princess fantasies and how much at a disadvantaged that mindset made her. She still hasn't realized her strengths and is looking in possibly a jealous way at the skills of her siblings that she doesn't have. But now she's getting more than a clue and I think by the end of it all both she and Arya will come to recognize and admire each other's strengths. I think by the end of it all those two will come together to get rid of Littlefinger. To me Sansa is more of the type to sit on the throne, while Arya is a soldier/warrior. I don't think Arya would want to sit on any throne, she'd want to go out and feel free to roam and fight to protect it. 

By the way, Arya needs to train some of her fellow northerners in the art of war, her foot work is amazing.

Edited August 7, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[DarkRaichu]

1 hour ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Dany should have zigged or zagged or something when she saw the arrow was going to be shot.  You don't line up and go straight for them, come in from the side.  Sure he could turn, but make it a challenge. 

I am sure she would note that for next time.  To be fair, a few minutes prior, Drogon was not affected by multiple arrows shot from the ground.  She probably did not know the strength and speed of ballista (new weapon, right?) and decided to do the same move

36 minutes ago, Shermie said:

I'm confused about the gold. I thought it was in those wagons, being transported along with the food. That's why they made such a big deal about Cersei's Lannister loans "when the gold gets here". I thought it got torched by the dragon, which would mean it's all a bunch of melted blobs for someone to scavenge for later among the scorched ruins. But others said the gold made it to KL?

Someone (Jaime or old Tyrell) said the gold arrived behind the gate of Red Keep.  Jaime was staying with the food caravans at the tail end of the convoy, 

Edited August 7, 2017 by DarkRaichu

[TaraS1]

1 hour ago, SimoneS said:

I also loved Missandei telling Davos and Jon that Daenerys was the queen that they chose.

I love Missandei.  She and Davos are probably my favorites of the more 'minor' characters.  And I think the actress (forgive me, I don't know her name) is so beautiful.

32 minutes ago, Shermie said:

I also find it funny that people are so mad that a dragon might die. It's just a fictional animal. And that thousands of fictional humans die in this show, some of them beloved characters with actual personalities, as well as many horses and some dire wolves, but the death of a giant lizard is too much?

I don't want the dragons to die because Dany needs all three to win the wars to come and I don't want her position weakened.

When Jon was showing Dany the cave drawings, why didn't he point to the one of the Night King and be like, "Him!  That's the dude I saw!  This is the guy I was telling you about!"

[SimoneS]

8 minutes ago, DarkRaichu said:

Someone (Jaime or old Tyrell) said the gold arrived behind the gate of Red Keep.  Jaime was staying with the food caravans at the tail end of the convoy, 

I still don't believe that Jaime trusted soldiers to deliver that gold. No way. I call, "plot armor."

 

1 minute ago, TaraS1 said:

I love Missandei.  She and Davos are probably my favorites of the more 'minor' characters.  And I think the actress (forgive me, I don't know her name) is so beautiful.

Her name is Nathalie Emmanuel and I agree that she is beautiful. I thought that she made the other actresses at the GoT LA premiere look dowdy.

Edited August 7, 2017 by SimoneS

[Keepitmoving]

The entire time that Bran, Arya and Sansa were in that scene together, I was like, why aren't they asking Bran what's going to happen? They know he sees and has seen things, why aren't they using that?

[ImpinAintEasy]

32 minutes ago, Shermie said:

 

I also find it funny that people are so mad that a dragon might die. It's just a fictional animal. And that thousands of fictional humans die in this show, some of them beloved characters with actual personalities, as well as many horses and some dire wolves, but the death of a giant lizard is too much?

 

Thank you for this. Not only are they fictional creatures, but they are horrifying weapons of mass destruction. I saw the soldiers being burned alive, in some cases melted in their armor, and was terrified. Not unlike Jaime, who was clearly having flashbacks to Aerys burning men alive, which I think led into his suicide mission to try and kill Dany. 

 

As far as I'm concerned, I'll be happy to see the dragons used to defeat the White Walkers and their army, but hope to see them die in the process. 

[DarkRaichu]

11 hours ago, CletusMusashi said:

So you know what monkey song is playing really loud when he and Meera talk about their time together? It's a song called "Bran and Meera's Time Together." For most of it, he was dragged around uselessly, watching his friends die for him in between changes of his diaper. At the time, he did a respectable job of adapting to his handicap, but now, as a newly three-eyed raven, every unpleasant memory comes back to him with its original emotional impact. And during most of the moments that he wasn't either ashamed or terrified, he has to watch how fucking boring his story arc was. Except for Osha!

Bran: Thanks for being my personal rickshaw puller, Meera :D :D :D

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, candall said:

But ha, don't listen to me--I couldn't figure out this Dickon Tarly person until I googled.  I guess I haven't ever been invested in Sam enough to mark his last name.  And I certainly never expected to run into Mr. "This is venison from an earlier hunt" again.

1 hour ago, Popples said:

They also recast the actor from last season. I can't complain because new Dickon is quite attractive.

 

Dickon Tarly was previously played by Freddie Stroma, who also played the second most punchable Hogwarts student, Cormac McLaggen. Stroma was busy filming Time After Time for ABC and couldn't reprise Dickon. I think it was canceled after a whopping five episodes had aired.

47 minutes ago, Shermie said:

I'm confused about the gold. I thought it was in those wagons, being transported along with the food. That's why they made such a big deal about Cersei's Lannister loans "when the gold gets here". I thought it got torched by the dragon, which would mean it's all a bunch of melted blobs for someone to scavenge for later among the scorched ruins. But others said the gold made it to KL?

They are doing such a piss poor job at conveying time this season. There are likely days and maybe weeks between the first scene and the second scene in the Reach. In the first scene, Jaime continues to collect gold for Cersei to repay the Iron Bank and sends Bronn off to help the Tarlys coerce farmers into giving up their harvests to stock Kings Landing. In the second scene, the wagons are filled with hay and wheat. Jaime must have recalled Randyll Tarly to escort the last of the gold to Kings Landing. Randyll Tarly returns and reports that all of the gold made it to Kings Landing. And then the Dothraki horde and Daenerys and Drogon attack.

The reason why the gold was the first priority is because Tycho Nestoris from the Iron Bank was in Kings Landing and because Cersei needed the gold to hire the Golden Company sell-swords in Essos.

[paigow]

Missandei: Marriage does not exist on Narth...

Davos: Road Trip!

Edited August 7, 2017 by paigow

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, HunterHunted said:

Dickon Tarly was previously played by Freddie Stroma, who also played the second most punchable Hogwarts student, Cormac McLaggen. Stroma was busy filming Time After Time for ABC and couldn't reprise Dickon. I think it was canceled after a whopping five episodes had aired.

They are doing such a piss poor job at conveying time this season. There are likely days and maybe weeks between the first scene and the second scene in the Reach. In the first scene, Jaime continues to collect gold for Cersei to repay the Iron Bank and sends Bronn off to help the Tarlys coerce farmers into giving up their harvests to stock Kings Landing. In the second scene, the wagons are filled with hay and wheat. Jaime must have recalled Randyll Tarly to escort the last of the gold to Kings Landing. Randyll Tarly returns and reports that all of the gold made it to Kings Landing. And then the Dothraki horde and Daenerys and Drogon attack.

The reason why the gold was the first priority is because Tycho Nestoris from the Iron Bank was in Kings Landing and because Cersei needed the gold to hire the Golden Company sell-swords in Essos.

I think that's the direct effect of having 7 - and not 10 episodes this season. had we had 10, I think some of the "time travel" issues would be lessoned. i mean to be fair, i think this could be mitigated just by having some sort of passing of time. like. the Gold scene could have happened at night, have Dany + Jon caveing during the day, Dany finding out about it at night, the argument on the beach during the day, the Rickon Dickon scene happen nearish dawn, super early anyway - then the attack happening when it did.

That at least shows that time is indeed passing and not TARDIS level traveling 
but for the most part i can ignore it because i think it's just implied (for the most part) that there is "time") not. "pooof" "poof" 

[Last Time Lord]

1 hour ago, maystone said:

Thanks for the clarification. I lost track of my hands :)

Jaime did, too, so don't feel too bad. 

[AlliMo]

9 hours ago, DrScottie said:

Jon Snow and Tyrion? One of them is her nephew and the other might well be her half-brother if his father were actually the Mad King, not Tywin. We already know that the dragons were okay with Tyrion.  

Plus, seeing Jon Snow take on an army of White Walkers with a dragon. Awesome. 

Actually, I'm thinking Jon and Bran. Bran is a warg, after all - he wouldn't even have to physically ride a dragon.

[ImpinAintEasy]

9 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Dickon Tarly was previously played by Freddie Stroma, who also played the second most punchable Hogwarts student, Cormac McLaggen. Stroma was busy filming Time After Time for ABC and couldn't reprise Dickon. I think it was canceled after a whopping five episodes had aired.

They are doing such a piss poor job at conveying time this season. There are likely days and maybe weeks between the first scene and the second scene in the Reach. In the first scene, Jaime continues to collect gold for Cersei to repay the Iron Bank and sends Bronn off to help the Tarlys coerce farmers into giving up their harvests to stock Kings Landing. In the second scene, the wagons are filled with hay and wheat. Jaime must have recalled Randyll Tarly to escort the last of the gold to Kings Landing. Randyll Tarly returns and reports that all of the gold made it to Kings Landing. And then the Dothraki horde and Daenerys and Drogon attack.

The reason why the gold was the first priority is because Tycho Nestoris from the Iron Bank was in Kings Landing and because Cersei needed the gold to hire the Golden Company sell-swords in Essos.

 

That ambush scene wasn't in the Reach, it was near Kings Landing. The water Jaime was tackled into is the Blackwater Rush. So I'd assume the first scene was at least 2 weeks before the ambush. It actually wouldn't take that long to sail from Dragonstone to just south of KL, where the ambush occurred. 

Edited August 7, 2017 by ImpinAintEasy

[maystone]

50 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I was thinking about that as well. Stannis' army is gone, the Bolton army is gone, Jon lost a ton of men in the BoB, Yara's army is gone, the Tyrell's are gone and the Lannisters just lost a nice chunk of their forces. Who's left to fight the WW's? I guess it's up to the Dothraki and whatever's left of the North.

Shermie, I agree about the dragons. They're cool and all, but their continued survival or lack thereof, doesn't make or break my attachment to the show. For me, they're just an extension of Dany, who's never been a favorite of mine in the first place. If they live great, if they don't it's sad, but oh well. I feel worse for the horses who get absolutely wrecked in these types of battles.

IGN has a good rundown of the Houses still standing (or not) in Westeros. I remembered the Karstarks and Umbers and Manderlys and Mormonts, but I completely forgot about the others and that some of them have sat out the more recent battles. If the WW were out of the picture, the North could have won over the Lannisters, I think. That's all moot, really, but it would have been interesting on its own.

[ImpinAintEasy]

7 minutes ago, AlliMo said:

Actually, I'm thinking Jon and Bran. Bran is a warg, after all - he wouldn't even have to physically ride a dragon.

 

While it seems Jon is destined to ride Rhaegal, I think he will need to fight the Night King and the actual white walkers from the ground. The dragons are what is needed to deal with the undead wights, but I have the impression that dragon fire can't kill the white walkers. This is where the Valyrian steel and dragonglass will come into play. So the Bran speculation is right on point, IMO. 

[MrWhyt]

37 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

I still don't believe that Jaime trusted soldiers to deliver that gold. No way. I call, "plot armor."

cause Jaime is the only commander in the Lannister army? He does have subordinates. Also the wagon train is long, he could have supervised the delivery of the gold and then rode back to the end of the line to finish up.

[scrb]

Arya's badass and all but no way she blocks Brienne's sword with the Needle.

One handed.

Her evading Brienne's swings or even anticipating them makes more sense.

[SimoneS]

1 minute ago, MrWhyt said:

cause Jaime is the only commander in the Lannister army? He does have subordinates. Also the wagon train is long, he could have supervised the delivery of the gold and then rode back to the end of the line to finish up.

We are just going to have to disagree. I don't believe for a second that Jaime trusts Lannister bannermen to deliver all that gold without being there.  I don't know what you mean by "supervise," but he clearly wasn't there when the gold was delivered or Tarly won't have had to tell him that it had been delivered.

[DarkRaichu]

18 minutes ago, scrb said:

Arya's badass and all but no way she blocks Brienne's sword with the Needle.

One handed.

Her evading Brienne's swings or even anticipating them makes more sense.

She used waterdance vs Brienne so she did not use Needle to block Brienne per say.  Arya tapped Brienne sword so she could attack her weak points, ie hand and back of the knee.  Towards the end, Arya actually received Brienne's full force and dropped Needle as the result, just before she used the dagger on Brienne

Edited August 7, 2017 by DarkRaichu

[Mabinogia]

17 minutes ago, scrb said:

Arya's badass and all but no way she blocks Brienne's sword with the Needle.

One handed.

Her evading Brienne's swings or even anticipating them makes more sense.

I know people loved that scene, and I get why, but I could not get past tiny little needle having enough strength to hold back that massive sword Brienne was wielding, unless Brienne was going really, really easy on Arya but it seemed like they were trying to show that they were both giving it their full strength. They should have hard Arya weaving and evading like you say. Not tiny needle clashing and matching an actual battle sword. It was silly.

I thought Sansa looked kind of sad. She has to know that Arya's life has been horrible to have made her the killing machine she is now.

There were a lot of funny scene's (mostly curtsey of the always charming Sir Davos) but that battle had me on the edge of my seat. I'm not usually a battle scene fan but that was beautifully filmed and so powerful. The anticipation that built up before the battle was palpable.

[ImpinAintEasy]

14 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

We are just going to have to disagree. I don't believe for a second that Jaime trusts Lannister bannermen to deliver all that gold without being there.  I don't know what you mean by "supervise," but he clearly wasn't there when the gold was delivered or Tarly won't have had to tell him that it had been delivered.

 

So he trusted Randyl to make sure it was delivered. I think some viewers are missing that they weren't very far from Kings Landing, so it was possible Tarly was able to escort the gold to Kings Landing and make it back to report to Jaime. 

[Hook75]

Poor Rickon, none of the Stark's kids asked about him when meeting Sansa.

[SoothingDave]

15 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

 

There were a lot of funny scene's (mostly curtsey of the always charming Sir Davos) but that battle had me on the edge of my seat. I'm not usually a battle scene fan but that was beautifully filmed and so powerful. The anticipation that built up before the battle was palpable.

 

It was actually bright outside and not filmed in the dark like most of the previous scenes.  Cloudy skies, dark clothes, mud were the visual themes in the BoB.  This was sun and fire and bright red.

Also, cool to actually see the Dothraki in battle for once.  

[ChipBach]

Danys, much like my wife, continues to ask for feedback and then does whatever she wants to do anyway...

[BitterApple]

28 minutes ago, Hook75 said:

Poor Rickon, none of the Stark's kids asked about him when meeting Sansa.

Rickon is the GOT version of Chuck Cunningham. 

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

I think that's the direct effect of having 7 - and not 10 episodes this season. had we had 10, I think some of the "time travel" issues would be lessoned. 

I agree and I think that's why when Jon and Dany inevitably hook up its going to feel rushed and forced. Yes, they have great sexual chemistry but there hasn't been enough time to see their relationship grow beyond the obvious physical attraction. In contrast, Jaime and Brienne spent an entire season on the road together so you saw them go from wariness and distrust to mutual respect and understanding. Their characters had time to become invested in one another and it felt real. I hate that D&D are sacrificing all the character development for the sake of fast-forwarding the plot.

maystone, thanks for the link. It really helps to clarify who's left standing at this point.

Edited August 7, 2017 by BitterApple

[LuciaMia]

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But could Cersi's nasty chemist have poison tipped that spear?

My thoughts exactly!  Theres been poison right and left in this season, so I can imagine this wouldn't have been part of Cersei's evil alchemist's scheme.

[ShannaB]

Just some thoughts about this episode and I usually wait until I watch an episode twice -

1.  I was actually impressed with Jaime.  He cares for his troops which shows a totally different leadership quality than Tarly.  Jaime stayed in the thick of it and then was willing to sacrifice himself to kill Dany.  Looking down Drogon's throat must have been 'a pee in your pants' moment.
2.  I have always enjoyed Bronn and thought he was a good sidekick for both Tyrion and Jaime respectively.  I am a bit disappointed that he is fighting for Cersei but he is a Sellsword.  Bronn is an excellent and crafty fighter and in this episode he was definitely outclassed by the Dothraki fighter.  That ballista saved Bronn's ass and it was a great scene pining that Dothraki to the wood.  I was not happy that it was Bronn who wounded Drogon but Jaime would have been useless aiming the ballista.  At least Drogon looks okay because Qyburn is a nasty little man and could have put poison on the tips.  Bronn's flying leap to save Jaime was amazing!!  I tend to believe Bronn did the save out a feeling friendship for Jaime but it could be just for the money as well.
3. As GOT viewers I think we all look forward to the magnificent battle scenes on this show but last night was a bit different because we were shown how shaken Dickon (what a name!) was after fighting and killing ex-comrades at Highgarden.  After that we saw the soldier(s) literally shaking watching the Dothraki hoarde and  Drogon approaching.  Nice humanizing touch by the showrunners.
4.  Oh Dany, please stop this bend the knee.  She tells Jon to swallow his pride but can't she swallow her pride as well and understand his position?  He just showed her proof in the cave that 2 enemies, the children of the Forest and the First Men, united to fight a common and deadly enemy.  I noticed that Dany tells the Lannister soldiers to bend the knee or die in the previews. I cringed.  This request/demand was so different from what Missandre just told Jon and Davos about herself and Dany's other followers.  Looks like Tyrion and Varys will be having a hard time trying to counsel Dany to stop such threats.
5.  Anyone else think that Qyburn has an asembly line of workers making numerous ballistas to be placed all around KL?
6. Dany just destroyed the food everyone needs for the winter.  This could hurt Dany as well as Cersei but Dorne is still a Dany ally and could possibly ship supplies to her and her troops.  Just a thought because I would like to see Cersei in a bad position with something since she did get all the gold.
7. all this 'bend the knee or die' speeches makes me think of Eddie Izzard's  "cake or death" from his DRESSED TO KILL stand-up routine.  One of the funniest routines I have ever seen....so I bought the DVD.
8.  I have worried every time a Direwolf has appeared in an episode.  Then I started worrying about the dragons.  Last night I got downright queasy with the death of so many horses.  Seriously, that one scene where the Dothraki slices the leg off Bronn's horse was a great tactical move but damn!! it was awful.  The men can blow each other up, just leave the innocent and faithful creatures alone.  Having said this, I have 9 queasy episodes left.  Gah!

Edited August 7, 2017 by ShannaB

[Bcharmer]

4 hours ago, candall said:

My tv doesn't have the greatest definition, but I was squinting as hard as I could at Jamie sinking for a long, long time.  If someone's going to fish him out, they need to get right on that.

"Hey! Can someone please give Jaime a hand?"

[DrSpaceman73]

52 minutes ago, Hook75 said:

Poor Rickon, none of the Stark's kids asked about him when meeting Sansa.

I just assumed from the way she stated things and body language it was implied Rickon did not make it and they knew what she meant. 

But yes, they didn't ask for details.  Kind of "Oh I guess rickon died"

[DarkRaichu]

9 minutes ago, ShannaB said:

Anyone else think that Qyburn has an asembly line of workers making numerous ballistas to be placed all around KL?

He said to Cersei they were working around the clock making these.

Also, there is a good possibility they will aim those ballistas to the Dothrakis (and their horses by extension) and not just the dragons

Edited August 7, 2017 by DarkRaichu

[seacliffsal]

My heart ached as Bran, Arya, and Sansa entered Winterfell together.  How they and their lives have changed and how here they were as the surviving Starks.  I was also very touched when Arya mentioned that the statue did not look like Ned and Sansa replied that nobody is left who knew what Ned looked like.  Nice compliment to when Arya asked for the Maester or Sir Roderick at the gate.  I think that some of Sansa's looks are about how they have all experienced unspeakable things since they last saw each other and all three of them are so very different from when they were last together.

I admit that I am on the unpopular side with my opinion that I would like Drogon to be seriously injured and perhaps die.  Only two of the Stark direwolves are alive (just assuming about Ghost as we haven't seen him this season), and I think it's only fair/appropriate that one of the dragons dies as well.

It also seems like an unpopular opinion that I am glad that Bronn is alive.  It wouldn't surprise me if he came across Tyrion and change sides as Tyrion could now buy his services as a sellsword.  

These battles have been amazing, but result in an ever dwindling number of soldiers available to fight against the white walkers.

Edited August 7, 2017 by seacliffsal
one word can certainly change the meaning of the entire sentence