S03.E01: Season 3, Episode 1

[ElectricBoogaloo]

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Olivia Colman and David Tennant reprise their roles as DS Ellie Miller and DI Alec Hardy, this time investigating a serious sexual assault in the Dorset community.

Edited June 29, 2017 by ElectricBoogaloo

[staveDarsky]

Gathering my thoughts.
Previous cast we saw:
Hardy - already back and is a DI again.
Ellie - Back to DS. Was hoping she'd made DI by now. She's still Miller. Even gets called Mrs Miller at one point. Yikes!
Tom - who's very tall and distributing something he shouldn't!
Daisy now lives with Hardy and has friends in Broadchurch.

Beth has trained to be a sexual violence counsellor.
Mark is separated from Beth and only visits once a week.
Chloe is taking French. Had her hair chopped off too.

Paul - trying to calm Mark down.
Maggie - Wrote a book about Danny based on interviews with Mark. Mark regrets this.
SOCO (dirty) Brian -- who had the nerve to call Hardy Shitface to his face!

New characters
Trish
Cath
their boss Ed
Cath's husband
Beth's supervisor
Katie, an overly eager detective

More later...

[kieyra]

Had a very hard time paying attention to this, my mind kept wandering off and I'd realize I'd lost track. It was very slow-paced, and lots of long artsy shots I could have done without. 

And by no means am I downplaying rape, but so far there is no murder case and I was left wondering if two seasoned detectives would be assigned full-time to a rape investigation. I might be too jaded by U.S. crime shows and other impressions of how rape victims are treated. 

Also, re: my wandering attention, I thought at one point early on Trish looks at Hardy and Miller and says "you did this to me!". Then the scene cut away and I expected there to be some follow up or explanation, but there wasn't. I assume I misheard, but does anyone know the line I'm talking about? 

I probably need to try again when I can watch on a platform with subtitles. 

[Nmissi]

No, she said, "Who did this to me?" Ergo, she did not recognize the attacker.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

The first 15 minutes of this episode were brutal to watch. To see a rape victim go through the process of being examined and interrogated was heartbreaking. I couldn't relax even the slightest until she finally got to take a shower.

Naturally everyone already looks shady, from her friend Cath to their boss Ed.

Heh, loved that after Bryan the forensics guy said that they call refer to Alec as shitface, Alec later asked Ellie how long that had been going on.

[Eri]

ElectricBoogaloo: Same - but that's what makes the show so intriguing, its realism and the actors/actresses that play them so well. I just wanted to hug Olivia Coleman every time she looked upset.

[staveDarsky]

I rewatched the episode. So here's what else I noticed.

Hardy's still impatient. He was mostly gentle with Trish, but he asked leading yes/no questions and sometimes two or three in a row. It often took Ellie to ask a simple open-ended question before Trish would answer. She also tended to whisper her answers to Hardy but use her voice with Ellie. So Hardy still has some people skills to learn! I was surprised he was allowed in the room at the clinic, given that he's male and Trish needs to feel as safe as possible.

Despite them being back to DI Hardy and DS Miller, there is more of an equality between the two. They've had a few investigations together since Hardy's been back because Ellie admonished him for forgetting to make the tea, which he's done before. So they have a routine during interviews. I don't remember Hardy making tea for the Latimers or anyone on the Sandbrook case, so this is new. I suppose some of the equality comes from them both being strangers to the victim and her community, unlike with Broadchurch and Sandbrook. They're both working from the outside this time.

In the first half of the episode, the music was minimized with a lot of gaps of silence. I thought that was brilliant. It made it all the more unnerving and creepy. Music used later had the familiar strings or piano over a base or drum beat at heart rate. The music has been superb through the entire trilogy so far.

It was interesting that when we finally saw the teenagers they were shown almost in sequence -- Tom, Daisy and then Chloe. I wonder if their paths will cross. Also each of the girls got asked about school work. The mystery is why is Daisy living with Hardy in Broadchurch? Did Tess suffer some fall-out from the Sandbrook case?

The whole sequence with SOCO (Dirty) Brian was hilarious. I wonder how they all keep straight faces when they're swearing at Hardy. For those who don't know, Peter de Jesus (Brian) played Horatio to David Tennant's Hamlet -- that is, the "best friend". Anyway, a lot of fiction writers had imagined Hardy finding out his sh!tface nickname. Now it's canon.

The cinematography, especially around the estate was terrific. Hardy and Ellie are wearing the similarly-coloured suits. Ellie's now sleeping on Joe's side of the bed, for what it's worth.

The choice to have the victim be a middle-aged mum rather than a young girl is really interesting. As an older woman myself, there's an arrogance I'd get left alone if an attacker had to choose. Obviously no one should be so naive. I figure Trish is around the same age as Ellie so I suspect there may be some parallels drawn between the two -- even if it's Ellie considering her own sexuality and history in light of this case. Hardy too. You could see him take pause and stare blankly for a few seconds while labelling evidence bags.

Excellent first episode.

[mledawn]

On ‎2017‎-‎03‎-‎01 at 5:06 PM, staveDarsky said:

Despite them being back to DI Hardy and DS Miller, there is more of an equality between the two. They've had a few investigations together since Hardy's been back because Ellie admonished him for forgetting to make the tea, which he's done before. So they have a routine during interviews. I don't remember Hardy making tea for the Latimers or anyone on the Sandbrook case, so this is new. I suppose some of the equality comes from them both being strangers to the victim and her community, unlike with Broadchurch and Sandbrook. They're both working from the outside this time.

There was the tea, and of course that Ellie had given the victim her phone number "again" for the second time, and yes he is counting! I loved that scene in the car - I actually said out loud, "MAN, I've missed these two!"

Ellie digging the snack bar out of her purse and Hardy asking her about it was also gold - I love their rapport. "How long's that been in there!?" "I don't care! [happily munching, then...] Want half?" Bickering like an old married couple.

Meanwhile, Tom is watching porn because he's a teenager. Maybe talk to him a bit about it before calling him his dad (mean). What makes her mad - that he's watching porn or that he's distributing it?

Daisy looking shady af when she puts her phone away. She's a teenager - hell, she's a person - having a phone out isn't any big deal. So I wonder if she's linked to Tom's activities somehow. Also, is she in Broadchurch just visiting? I mean, if she visited him regularly she'd have mates in the area. This bit of the storyline is confusing as Hardy's "just back" from something but has a fairly relaxed relationship with his daughter...

So the red herring is the friend's husband, then - the condom wrapper and him sketching off to do whatever in the bushes? Speaking of, was the twine still in the bushes so Dirty Bryan's crew missed that at the scene, or was the rapist planting the twine in anticipation of a second attack?

Missed this show!

Edited March 3, 2017 by mledawn

[milner]

Who was Trisha's friend's husband watching through tne window ?

[mledawn]

This aired in Canada last night - does anyone know the US air date schedule?

[Eucrid]

On 03/03/2017 at 0:46 PM, mledawn said:

So the red herring is the friend's husband, then - the condom wrapper and him sketching off to do whatever in the bushes? Speaking of, was the twine still in the bushes so Dirty Bryan's crew missed that at the scene, or was the rapist planting the twine in anticipation of a second attack?

For this week anyway. I'm sure it'll be someone else soon enough. Whats the bets that guys just having an affair?

 

Anyway its great to have the show back and for it to be a bit more focussed than last season. Felt like it was back to season 1 level. I found season 2 very frustrating.

[staveDarsky]

10 hours ago, mledawn said:

This aired in Canada last night - does anyone know the US air date schedule?

Just checked the BBC America schedule. Nothing coming up in the next two weeks. They announced they'd have it starting in March. No word since then.

The Canadian broadcast (on Showcase) looked like it was videotape, not film. It had a really  yellow glow. That happened with one of the episodes last time.

[secnarf]

18 minutes ago, staveDarsky said:

The Canadian broadcast (on Showcase) looked like it was videotape, not film. It had a really  yellow glow. That happened with one of the episodes last time.

Mine didn't look abnormal at all. I'm not sure what you mean by 'videotape' vs 'film', but it certainly wasn't yellow at all.

[Cigale]

4 hours ago, staveDarsky said:

The Canadian broadcast (on Showcase) looked like it was videotape, not film. It had a really  yellow glow. That happened with one of the episodes last time.

For me it was not like this for all the episode.  A couple of scenes only.

Anyway I liked it a lot and I too am glad that it's back.  Of course Coleman and Tennant were great but the actress playing Trish, Julie Hesmondhalgh, wow!  I was impressed!

[Fosca]

It looked like video yo me too.  Not yellow to me, but sort of hyper-real; I thought it might have been the TV I was watching it on, since before I watched it on my computer.  I also had some trouble with the accents; I think I miss the headphones.

[Ravenya003]

I wasn't too impressed with season two of this show, but given that this is the last season, I can't deny myself the Olivia Coleman/David Tennant team up one last time. The two of them are excellent together, and really are the reason to watch. The look on Alec's face when he realized Ellie had given Trish her number was golden. 

Already there are some intriguing elements to the case: that Trish waited before reporting the attack, that it was clearly premeditated, and that it occurred at her best friend's birthday party. However it pans out, I just hope it doesn't turn out to be a fake rape case (as the young cop predicted) - the world just doesn't need that story at this point in time.

Nice to see Julie Cox and Sarah Parish - I've seen them in plenty of British dramas over the years. 

I groaned when I realized that Beth was being assigned to Trish's case. The woman has been raped, now she has to deal with Beth Lattimer? Hasn't the poor woman suffered enough?

Oh and here's Mark, complaining as usual, this time about a book that he helped write, publish and distribute. I'm not sure why the Lattimers are still part of this show; their story felt pretty complete at the end of last season.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

2 hours ago, Ravenya003 said:

The woman has been raped, now she has to deal with Beth Lattimer? Hasn't the poor woman suffered enough?

Ha, I KNOW! And then as if that weren't enough, she spilled the beans to Mark that it was someone local which just gave him another reason to get paranoid/huffy/freaked out.

[jeansheridan]

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The choice to have the victim be a middle-aged mum rather than a young girl is really interesting. As an older woman myself, there's an arrogance I'd get left alone if an attacker had to choose. Obviously no one should be so naive. 

I think it was a really good choice too.  But I must admit seeing Chloe and Daisy so highlighted makes me very nervous.  

The good:  I like that the show just starts.  They've been working together for awhile again, Hardy has a ( really nice!) house, they know details about each other lives like regular partners.  Rather than wasting time on explaining why he came back, they just move forward.  I loved it.  That and their natural chemistry.  I really do hope they work together on another project someday.  Both seem pretty active on British television so I think it's possible.  

I really thought for a moment that Ellie was dating "Dirty Brian".  She seemed so miffed at Hardy for being rude.  I thought we were going to see him next to her in her bed.  

And I guess if Beth has to be in the show, it makes sense to make her a bit more central to the plot.  It's Mark who doesn't really have a purpose on the show anymore.  And Paul, but since I love Paul, I'm happy to see him and his lovely new beard and really good haircut.  

And it was lovely seeing Hardy look relatively healthy and well groomed (and hello David Tennant in a pullover sweater and shirt looking impossibly pulled together at 2AM in the morning!  HA.  For the a show that's realistic couldn't they have given us Hardy in sweats?).  Is it my imagination or is his brogue even more overt?    I mean, I know it's his natural accent, but he was really rolling those Rs.  

The bad:  Ellie being a bit over the top with Tom.  I get apologizing to the teacher, but boys look at porn.  And as Beth admitted, girls look at porn.  What type of porn would be the concern for me.  

And Ellie being curt with her Dad.  What's that all about?  She was so irritated with him!  Then again, I guess she shouldn't be a saint.

I'm just so delighted to see them again.  They're just the best duo.  Although she wasn't bad with Hiddleston in Night Manager.  Maybe Coleman just makes her costars better.

[staveDarsky]

I think given the history with Joe, that Ellie is going to go off on Tom for such things. I wondered if they might throw some suspicion on Tom this year or show us his POV of what it's like to be Joe's son, still using the same last name.

Ellie's dad got haughty with her remarking "Isn't it always?" when she said something had come up to keep her at work. I'm curious to see what story he'll bring to the series. I laughed at him asking her to bring home bread since last series/season, she ate all of Hardy's bread (and tea and milk) while she worked on the Sandbrook files.

I certainly hope Olivia and David work together again and often. I remember reading that Chris Chibnall asked them not to do other projects together while Broadchurch was still in existence but now that it's ending, my fingers are crossed for some more projects. Here's some trivia. Before he was cast as the Doctor, David and Olivia met and read for the pilot of a sitcom. The BBC passed on that show.

[jeansheridan]

I can see why they didn't do side projects but fingers crossed indeed.  Both are natural goofballs.   I wouldn't mind a Four Weddings and a Funeral style comedy with them. Or a Nick Hornby screenplay.  As long as they have scenes together.  

[madmaverick]

I would love to see Olivia and David work together in any project.  This show introduced me to Olivia and I'm going to be checking out anything she's in after seeing her work as Miller.  I've missed this show though S2 paled in comparison to S1.  But S3 looks like a return to form.  

Great job so far on showing what happens with rape victims in the excruciating aftermath.  They're paying proper attention to the victim's perspective which is good.  Ellie giving Trish her phone number was so Ellie.  As was her scene in the principal's office.  

[Quilt Fairy]

If anyone missed it, season 3 premiered in the US tonight on BBC America.  I'm sure there will be reruns, and it's probably available On Demand.

[J-Man]

So ... Olivia Colman is now --- Olivia Benson? Welcome to Wessex SVU!

I confess that I remember so little about Season 2 that I started watching it again and it took me quite some time to realize I'd already seen it. (I definitely remember Season 1.) I hope there's not too much in Season 3 that requires extensive knowledge of its predecessor. 

[voiceover]

3 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

If anyone missed it, season 3 premiered in the US tonight on BBC America.  I'm sure there will be reruns, and it's probably available On Demand.

I *hope* there will be reruns.  I'm tired af at BBCAmerica's stinginess in this regard.  In the past couple of years, most of their first-run series get neither a same night, same week, next week before the next ep, nor series-review-on-series-finale day, reruns.

Doctor Who (& possibly Orphan Black?) as exception.  But the last 2 seasons of Musketeers and Ripper Street were without.

I am griping in the ep thread about this because Life interrupted the trip to the victim's workplace, and I'm pretty sure now, unless I can find it On Demand, I'll be lost for most of the series, forced instead to watch just for Tennant/Colman interludes, which pretty much describes how I sat through Season 2.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

4 hours ago, J-Man said:

I confess that I remember so little about Season 2 that I started watching it again and it took me quite some time to realize I'd already seen it. (I definitely remember Season 1.) I hope there's not too much in Season 3 that requires extensive knowledge of its predecessor. 

As long as you remember the major points of the previous seasons (Ellie's husband Joe killed Danny, Joe was found not guilty at the trial), you should be fine for S3. Many of the characters from S1 and S2 are in S3 but you don't really need to remember most of their backstories.

[MaryPatShelby]

My DirecTV went out because of a storm at about the 45 minute mark; I figured it was OK because I only missed about 6 minutes and maybe that was partly ads, but from the descriptions above it sounds like I missed a lot.  Dang.

Edited June 30, 2017 by MaryPatShelby

[ceecee]

Loved the tea bit....he's supposed to make the tea *before* he snoops around, and apparently still isn't getting that right. Love seeing them together again!

[meep.meep]

I thought he was supposed to make the tea *while* he snoops around.  

Loved her snapping:  "now you say sorry to Brian!"

[raven]

"Hi, we're the police, showing up to say Trish won't be in today, personal reasons"

"There's been a sexual assault"  Who??  "We can't say"

Not very good with the secrecy, these two.   I don't care, I'm happy to have OC and DT back and working together.

On 3/11/2017 at 10:09 PM, jeansheridan said:

And it was lovely seeing Hardy look relatively healthy and well groomed (and hello David Tennant in a pullover sweater and shirt looking impossibly pulled together at 2AM in the morning!  HA.  For the a show that's realistic couldn't they have given us Hardy in sweats?).

I can actually believe that if Hardy is up working at 2 am and fully dressed!  It fits the cleaned up character IMO.  Though I wouldn't mind seeing him in sweats :)

On 3/3/2017 at 7:46 AM, mledawn said:

Meanwhile, Tom is watching porn because he's a teenager. Maybe talk to him a bit about it before calling him his dad (mean). What makes her mad - that he's watching porn or that he's distributing it?

Probably both plus that she had to be called to the school, that she's just started a difficult and disturbing case.  I like when we see these non-perfect facets of the character, it seems real; she is stressed and I took that whole scene as her main irritation being "I don't need this right now".  Even the teacher looked a little shocked at Ellie's reactions.

Beth got on my nerves; she's better when she's not with Mark.  They seemed to be a point that she's new so hopefully she doesn't make Trish's situation worse.

I also thought it was a different look for Trish, an older woman, to be the rape victim.  The whole opening sequence was so tense and compelling. 

As  usual, gorgeous scenery. 

[ghoulina]

On 3/3/2017 at 6:46 AM, mledawn said:

Ellie digging the snack bar out of her purse and Hardy asking her about it was also gold - I love their rapport. "How long's that been in there!?" "I don't care! [happily munching, then...] Want half?" Bickering like an old married couple.

I love their dynamic as well. I hope they stay friends and the show doesn't try to get all romantic with them. 

 

On 3/11/2017 at 9:09 PM, jeansheridan said:

The bad:  Ellie being a bit over the top with Tom.  I get apologizing to the teacher, but boys look at porn.  And as Beth admitted, girls look at porn.  What type of porn would be the concern for me.

I thought her reaction was OTT too. But I get it. I'm sure she's very sensitive to what happened with her ex, and how she had no clue. She probably thinks she has to be hyper vigilant about anything concerning Tom. But that's definitely not the way to approach sex stuff with your kids. 

 

 

11 hours ago, raven said:

I also thought it was a different look for Trish, an older woman, to be the rape victim.  The whole opening sequence was so tense and compelling. 

Was it ever. And those scenes of her; just sitting alone, terrified, in the dark house. My heart really went out to her. 

 

I am so glad I saw this was on the other night and was able to set the DVR up to record. I only JUST found out about this in the spring, and binge watched seasons 1 and 2 in a few weeks. While season 2 was a bit of a let down, I find the acting and the overall ambiance to be just stellar. 

[MaggieG]

I'm so glad this is back, I love Miller and Hardy. 

I must have rewound this about 4 times, when he gave her that "are you serious" look when Ellie said "call me anytime" to Trish while they were driving.

So he's probably a red herring, but the mechanic guy who is the husband of Cath is already giving me bad vibes 

[Texasmom1970]

I am willing to overlook any flaws in the storyline or other characters because to me Olivia and David are simply amazing. I did think it was a pretty good season opener.

[SharonH58]

I know the lake wasn't small but you would think they would search.  The bag the guy snuck in to get didn't look too hidden but I guess Dirty Brian had other things to do.  :)  I love Hardy and Miller.    I think Ellie over reacted at the school just because of what happened with the father and how she was clueless to what was going on.  And I like the slower pace of the show,  why rush?  Characters, dialogue and scenery are all wonderful and I want to enjoy!

[pezgirl7]

1 hour ago, SharonH58 said:

The bag the guy snuck in to get didn't look too hidden but I guess Dirty Brian had other things to do.  :) 

I thought the bag was grabbed by someone wearing blue rubber gloves, like the people searching the area were wearing? I don't know how someone could sneak in there when there probably cops and forensic people all over, searching under the flood lights. I guess we'll find out next week, if the cops mention it.

[Quilt Fairy]

2 hours ago, pezgirl7 said:

I thought the bag was grabbed by someone wearing blue rubber gloves, like the people searching the area were wearing? I don't know how someone could sneak in there when there probably cops and forensic people all over, searching under the flood lights. I guess we'll find out next week, if the cops mention it.

I thought it was grabbed by someone wearing a yellow vest like the crime scene people.

[Black Knight]

I watched the premiere on BBCA, but I just remembered that for the first two seasons, I paid to watch weekly on Amazon because BBCA was cutting scenes. Does anyone know if they're cutting scenes again for S3? If they are, I'm going to have to go Amazon again because those hacks can't be trusted not to cut key scenes (in the S1 finale, they cut large chunks of Ellie reacting to the Joe reveal, and Mark confronting Joe - I mean, seriously?!).

I was mistrustful of "best mate Cath" as soon as I saw Sarah Parish is playing her. She's too good an actress not to be given a juicy role.

Beth's supervisor did say Beth has a rare talent or whatever, so I expect she'll be more help than hindrance to Trish. Mark hasn't changed at all - forever an ass. Really, he lost a child and now he's not bothering to see his other two children much just because things aren't great between him and Beth? I wonder if he'll become a major suspect at some point. It could be some sort of weird closing the circle on a meta level. Otherwise, like others have said, I don't really see why the Latimers are still on the show. They've at least tied Beth in to the case with her new vocation, and I guess we're supposed to feel nervous for Chloe as a possible future victim, but Mark is, seemingly, pointless.

I smiled so hard whenever Ellie and Hardy were bickering. Never change, you two. I hope they go on bickering forever - as platonic partners. I can't see them together romantically. They have so much chemistry, but it's not that type of chemistry, at least not as the Hardy and Miller characters. I wouldn't at all object to the actors being paired romantically on a different project.

I like that Ellie (along with everyone else) isn't perfect and although she overreacted to the porn, it didn't bother me...until the line about Tom being his father's son. If she had realized at that point she'd gone too far and apologized, it would have been more tolerable to me, but she didn't do that. At least on the BBCA airing. Maybe she did and it was cut. Dammit. I'm going to have to subscribe again to the show on Amazon because I just don't trust BBCA at all.

[SharonH58]

ok, watched again.  There was a policeman at the crime scene but someone in the dark retrieved a plastic bag (from the place the two women worked) that had the blue twine in it.  Who was the man and woman, she inside in a robe, him driving up to the house?  He had a box of condoms in the glove box. I paused to see what it was in there. 

[Black Knight]

It was Cath and her husband.

[Tosia]

Was the husband of Trish's friend, who gave the party, also the same lout/wife beater from Home Fires?  Looks sooo similar? 

[LisaM]

So happy to see this show back. The first time that Hardy yelled "Millah"...I screamed!

I'm already more intrigued by Season 3 than I was by all of Season 2.

[SusieQ]

On 7/4/2017 at 7:26 PM, Tosia said:

Was the husband of Trish's friend, who gave the party, also the same lout/wife beater from Home Fires?  Looks sooo similar? 

Yes, I thought he looked the Home Fires creep, too. Checked it out on IMDB and we are correct.

[tennisgurl]

Finally caught the episode, and it did not disappoint! The season long arc looks interesting, if disturbing, and it ties in thematically with the Danny case, without actually being connected to it. At least, its not connected for now. Please don't let it be somehow connected.

I'm mostly here for Miller and Hardy banter, which was in rare form tonight. They have become so comfortable with each other, working together as a team, while also bickering like an old married couple. I love that there isn't anything romantic between them, they're just a great team that respect and like each other, even when they drive each other up the wall.

So Beth is a counselor for women in crisis or something? I mean, I get how that makes sense...in theory, but, have they, like, met Beth?

Really solid opening for the season. Already like it more than last season, which left me somehow knowing even less about the British legal system than I did when I started. And my previous knowledge was only what I read in old Rumpole at the Bailey novels.

Edited July 7, 2017 by tennisgurl

[eejm]

Oh, how I missed this show!  And such a heart-wrenching episode.  Trish was clearly in an incredible amount of pain and mental anguish, and Miller and Hardy were obviously uncomfortable, despite being professional.  

Ugh, did Miller's mom die in season 2?  I don't remember.  Her relationship with her dad seems to be pretty strained. 

One thing I caught that may be a throwback to season 1 - when Hardy and Miller first took Trish for her examination, they were discussing the case in a hallway.  Hardy asked Miller if she knew Trish, to which Miller replied that she didn't "know everyone."  I thought that was a nice echo of their meeting when Hardy bellowed at her for being upset upon seeing Danny, and her protests that she knew him.

[SharonH58]

I also found the Rape centers and counselors interesting.  I don't think we in the US have anything like that.  The sealed rooms, etc.  Oh, where is Hardy staying?  That isn't the house Danny was killed in is it?

[mledawn]

On 2/28/2017 at 8:17 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

The first 15 minutes of this episode were brutal to watch. To see a rape victim go through the process of being examined and interrogated was heartbreaking. I couldn't relax even the slightest until she finally got to take a shower.

I rewatched this episode last night as we're in the process of cutting our cable, so I am clearing the PVR before I have to give it back.

Even though I'd seen this episode more than once, I still started to cry when Trish was going through the rape kit. This series was really well done.

[mansonlamps]

Season Three finally on Netflix!  The season opener did not disappoint.

Edited December 1, 2017 by mansonlamps
Netflux is not a thing.

[BookWoman56]

On 6/29/2017 at 7:57 PM, raven said:

"Hi, we're the police, showing up to say Trish won't be in today, personal reasons"

"There's been a sexual assault"  Who??  "We can't say"

Not very good with the secrecy, these two.   I don't care, I'm happy to have OC and DT back and working together.

That whole exchange reminded me of when someone has been fired. For legal reasons, the managers and so forth usually can't say that the person was fired, so it's typically the same kind of announcement: HR and/or management: Employee A is no longer with the company. Other employees: Why? Did he/she get a new job overnight or did he/she get fired? HR and/or management: We can only say that Employee A is no longer with the company.

Especially since this is a small town, it's going to be fairly obvious who the victim was. I did think it was an interesting choice, but a good one, to make the victim a middle-aged woman who's not overly attractive physically. It helps reinforce the idea that rape is not about some guy being so sexually attracted to a woman that he can't control himself and assaults her; rape is about power and control, and victimizing someone so the assailant feels more powerful himself. 

[Kemper]

I was amazed at the actress who played Trish...the rape victim.  She didn't have to speak, she said everything with her eyes.  Anguish and pain.  I can't remember ever seeing her in anything before.  

This is probably not the time to watch this series...it being Christmas and all.  (The show is a bit of a downer)  Thanks go a gift of Roku, we watched all of Season 2 in a few sittings; couldn't remember that much about it.  Now we are 3 episodes in for Season 3.

The acting/producction of the Brits is outstanding.  Wish we had more of that here in the States.  The actors look so real...the British actresses don't seem to mess with their faces.  

[Mabinogia]

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

I was amazed at the actress who played Trish...the rape victim.  She didn't have to speak, she said everything with her eyes.  Anguish and pain. 

She does have an amazingly expressive face. I thought she was outstanding. She made Trish extremely sympathetic to me despite not being a very nice person. 

[Emily Thrace]

On 12/23/2017 at 7:24 AM, Kemper said:

I was amazed at the actress who played Trish...the rape victim.  She didn't have to speak, she said everything with her eyes.  Anguish and pain.  I can't remember ever seeing her in anything before. 

Julie Hesmondhaigh  is actually really  well known in the UK. She played one of the first trans characters on British television on one the highest rated shows in British tv. She was nominated for most popular character in British television once. She is truly beloved by quite a few people myself included. This is making me think of the episode where Edith Bunker is attacked on All in the Family. I do wonder if thats part of what TPTB were going for when casting her. They picked her to deliberately create a sympathetic reaction from the audience right out of the gate. I know its making it hard for me to watch. With Danny they skipped over the more graphic aspects and he wasn't as present in the story.