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They knew the plane was coming. My assumption is that the pilot told air traffic control, who then communicated with the refugee program, Red Cross, government, etc. It seemed pretty clear from their dialogue before the plane arrived that they were aware it was a plane full of mostly children from Gilead.

They have mentioned 'shredders' before I believe - kids born with 'defects' who are killed. Interesting point about that tape. If Serena was arrested for forcing Nick and June to have sex to have the baby, and June has recorded a tape saying the baby was conceived 'in love', those would seem to contradict each other. If Serena gets off because of that recording, I'm going to be furious. I didn't mind this episode so much, because I was mostly able to suspend disbelief and live with a bunch of unanswered questions and plot holes. I was really hoping they would kill June, though.

To me, it is the equivalent of 'The Cursed Child' in the Harry Potter series: Read it through once really fast just to find out what happened. Took time to digest, forced myself to read it once more to make sure it really was as bad as I thought, and then closed it off in a little walled-off corner of my mind where I can pretend it doesn't exist. Though I haven't yet managed to re-watch season 4, I am trying to pretend it never happened. I made myself watch seasons 1-2 as a palate cleanser. My cousin asked me if she thought her daughter would like the show and if it would be appropriate for her (her daughter is 11). I recommended against watching season 4, and had a hard time recommending the show at all, knowing what happens this season.

Yeah - watch The Office as a chaser? Really? I am always surprised at how different her voice sounds in interviews compared to when she is playing June, as I have only ever seen her in THT.

With her altered level of consciousness, the drugs were already absorbed into her bloodstream. And forcing someone in this situation to vomit is far more likely to cause them to aspirate or choke and die than it is to help them. Forcing emesis is almost always a bad idea. In situations where it might be warranted it should be done safely (e.g. 'pumping the stomach') to prevent aspiration/choking. However, as I mentioned earlier, it would not have made any difference if the drugs were already absorbed. Like many here, my initial thought was also that Lawrence won't go through with the plan if Eleanor dies. The look that he gave June at the funeral was chilling. I'm not convinced he won't change his mind. I never thought of that about Emily. It would be really sad if that were true as she is the best part of the show IMO! Alexis Bledel would have been fantastic as June. Although I have no doubt Samira Wiley would also have done well as June, she has such a lovely genuine smile that lights up her face and I don't think we would get to see that as much if she were June. She also has a presence that I don't think was intended for June, who seems to be a meeker and weaker character. But again, she is such a great actor that I'm sure she would be able to pull it off - it just wouldn't be the same June that we know now. Maybe if Samira was playing her, I wouldn't dislike her so much.

Putting the article here (in spoiler tags so it doesn't take up too much room) so that you and others without access can read it.

Well this is totally off-topic, but I *despise* Echo Beach with the heat of a thousand suns, and so of course it very often comes on during my six-minute drive to and from work. However, today on my way home from work, Heaven is a Place on Earth was playing. Even though I heard enough of it during THT to last a year, it was a nice change from Echo Beach.

In my head, there is a version of the 'Red Centre' that is for Marthas. I don't know what they call it but they probably have to learn how to make scones under threat of cattleprod or death.

It was. You can take multiple pills of most birth control pills as an emergency contraceptive. The exact number depends on the brand of birth control. We didn't actually see June take them though. I also was wondering if she would end up pregnant. I was happy to see the plot actually start to go somewhere. Still think the show needs more Emily and Moira, though.

You just realized? I realized the instant I saw the title. Made it clear that Logan would die. There was also a callback to Logan's 'epic' speech in the movie, before Logan ships out.

With the guy's incorrect response of knoll instead of knell, I had to wonder if he has been misunderstanding the significance of the grassy knoll all his life. Instantly thought of Scrabble for FJ - wasn't positive it was right but I couldn't think of anything else.

This was what bothered me the most, I think, about that whole interview. I'm all for showing strong independent and single characters who are happy being single. But reducing Logan to Veronica's inconvenient husband and then killing him off after having them get married was awful. You could have got to the same place by, instead of having him propose, spend the season showing them disagreeing, relationship unravelling over their obviously different life views/philosophies. Have them break up at the end - which I didn't want but would have been better than what we got. And if you WERE going to kill him off, I agree that it should have been the central mystery. Killing Logan as an afterthought was an insult to the character. I was initially deflated - I didn't even cry at his death because I was so numb and deflated, but now I am just angry. I had planned on re-watching this season to catch all the things I missed the first time, but now I can't even do it.

I also thought it was Lucky before I remembered he was dead, but I don't recall Tim. I've never re-watched season 3.

I knew it. I cussing knew it. The minute Logan proposed, I knew he was a goner. And then, seeing the title of the last episode sealed the deal. Not to mention the entire season I felt like Logan was a guy I would want to date, and I had never ever felt that way about Logan before. I was actually hoping it was Keith. Not that I don't love the guy, but I felt that Veronica could move forward from Keith's death with Logan by her side. Losing Logan feels like she lost her future. I don't really see how the show can move forward from this without losing the core of what it is. And I really really don't think Logan's death is what the show, the fans, or Veronica needed. I feel like we needed another episode or so to get the emotional impact of everything that happened.

After all the fuss made about not swearing, Keith goes and refers to 'batshit crazy conspiracy theorists' and nobody blinks an eye. I too was wondering about why Logan appeared to not acknowledge that he knew Leo. The pizza guy is getting on my last nerve.