S11.E20: Reunion Part 2

[Tara Ariano]

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Part 2 of 3. A Season 11 reunion continues with Kelly on the hot seat due to her behavior. Heather has a showdown with Kelly, who reveals shocking secrets about her past; Shannon casts light on her vow renewal; and Vicki's daughter discusses her mother.

[hula-la]

These women are beyond ridiculous! Kelly, I have lots of people I don't like. It doesn't give me license to post insulting pictures of them. As I like to say, I graduated high school 25 years ago, not 25 minutes ago. Having said that, I work in a high school and my kids act more maturely than her.

[Straycat80]

More of the same old stuff as in part one. Sorry, sorry, not sorry, sorry. 

Kelly really is immature and I think her daughter would be embarrassed by her behavior. She said her daughter doesn't watch the show but I would imagine her classmates would say something to her. I hope being on a reality show for one season was worth it to Kelly. I will be surprised if she's asked back for another season. 

[Mu Shu]

Andy keeps tossing Mega Dudd a lifeline and she wraps it right around her neck.   I'm pretty sure that's she's done.   

I'm sorry, but when I see Vicki I feel she is the ugliest woman in the world and she makes me nauseous.   How this bitch still holds an insurance license after the kill all cancer scam is beyond me.   She is a morale and moral hazard.   Come on California, yank her license.

Edited November 15, 2016 by Mu Shu

[WireWrap]

Boy, was there a lot of whispering between Vicki and Kelly! Vicki kept reminding Kelly "Not to TURN on her no matter what the others told her". I suspect that Vicki spilled a lot of crap about Kelly in Ireland and to Tarma before Ireland and is afraid they are going to inform Kelly about all of it. I so wish they would lay it all out there on both Kelly and Vicki and then sit back while those to destroy each other. They both have it coming x a million!

1 minute ago, Mu Shu said:

Andy keeps tossing Mega Dudd a lifeline and she wraps it right around her neck.   I'm pretty sure that's she's done.   

Mom sorry, but when I see Vicki I feel she is the ugliest woman in the world and she makes me nauseous.   How this bitch still holds an insurance license after the kill all cancer scam is beyond me.   She is a morale and moral hazard.   Come on California, yank her license.

Her face in the preview for next week was so dark and evil IMO. Really, really E.V.I.L!

[chick binewski]

Kelly performs like she's on Vanderpump Rules. 'I didn't do anything! I never said that! I didn't sleep with him! I wasn't drunk!' It's both exhausting AND boring to listen to.

Andy, Heather will show the house when you renew her contract. 

So glad Vicki is working to "get the word out" about cancer. How will anyone know about cancer unless Vicki informs us?? Also, if I were Brianna I'd rethink my babysitter choices immediately.

[Suck It Trebek]

Kelly refuses to take any ownership. Stating the obvious here, but she makes her own decisions and choices in how to respond. 

Cannot. Stand.

[TexasGal]

Kelly attended AA "classes?"  Do such a thing exist?  I can't believe no one corrected her with meeting.  Also, she attended them because of a drunk and disorderly, and coupled with the conduct we saw, she still doesn't think she has a problem with alcohol.

[Bronzedog]

I will say, without a hint of snark, I would be afraid to be alone with Kelly.

[Ubiquitous]

Kelly Dodd is totally mental. Vicki is a disgusting human being.

[zoeysmom]

11 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Kelly attended AA "classes?"  Do such a thing exist?  I can't believe no one corrected her with meeting.  Also, she attended them because of a drunk and disorderly, and coupled with the conduct we saw, she still doesn't think she has a problem with alcohol.

Kelly was ordered to attend 6 AA meetings in conjunction with her battery conviction-against her husband.  I don't think AA meeting assess whether or not you have a drinking problem.

And for the sake of argument if Kelly doesn't have a drinking problem-why is she so freaked out over Shannon ordering her two drinks in Ireland?

[100PercentPain]

34 minutes ago, chick binewski said:

Also, if I were Brianna I'd rethink my babysitter choices immediately.

SERIOUSLY. Did she say Vicki's man bathed/dressed the boys too? I have two girls close to the same ages as Brianna's boys, and there is no way in hell my mom's new boyfriend would be babysitting and dressing them (and my mom has infintely better character and judgment than Vicki). 

[bosawks]

Vicki stating that she regretted putting anything on tv just about gave me a hernia from guffawing!

[chick binewski]

5 minutes ago, 100PercentPain said:

SERIOUSLY. Did she say Vicki's man bathed/dressed the boys too? I have two girls close to the same ages as Brianna's boys, and there is no way in hell my mom's new boyfriend would be babysitting and dressing them (and my mom has infintely better character and judgment than Vicki). 

I KNOW!! I became seriously worried about Brianna this episode. I was glad when it looked like her husband wasn't coming back (cannot get past the Lydia's mom debacle) but she's working long shifts and she's sick and she has two little ones AND she's got Vicki to deal with? Donn - come back from Lake Havasu and take care of the boys!

[FlyingEgret]

Did Vicki buy Brianna's house or just give the down payment?  She said both but the down payment is much more Vicki's style...

[Giselle]

4 minutes ago, chick binewski said:

I KNOW!! I became seriously worried about Brianna this episode. I was glad when it looked like her husband wasn't coming back (cannot get past the Lydia's mom debacle) but she's working long shifts and she's sick and she has two little ones AND she's got Vicki to deal with? Donn - come back from Lake Havasu and take care of the boys!

Oh heck no! I like Donn too much. Let the two she wolves care for them.

Donn got free of that Harpy! I hope he's laughing himself silly at Vicki and the mess she has become.

[ParadoxLost]

I can't believe they have stretched this reunion out to three parts.  There is really no point.  They hate each other enough that there is really no real interaction or discussion worth watching.

Its just a lot of 'you're awful'  'well, I apologized at the time but I take it back because I hate you'.  Ad nauseam.

[Bronzedog]

Yeah.  There is a lot of "I know you are but what am I" going on with these women.

[ParadoxLost]

Cohen has lost all patience with everyone. 

I did chuckle that Tamra got called out by viewer questions for having a history of getting physical with cast members, being shit stirrer, and bad mouthing parenting skills.

The problem is that Kelly and Vicki don't have the high ground or brains between them to turn that into something.

And Heather was pissed off when Andy introduced the 'Terry is an absentee Dad' montage.

[Cherrio]

Vicki Cancerscamvulson.   

Choke on a casserole.

[What In The]

Kelly would do well to drop the fat shaming. It's like a boomerang that can come back to her.

[UsernameFatigue]

If Bravo brings back Kelly, I am out. I have a very low tolerance for stupid people, but Kelly's issues go way beyond stupidity. She apparently thinks that anger management classes exist to promote violence? She stated that if she were still taking anger management classes she would beat the crap out of Tamra. That not only makes no sense (big surprise) but I have no interest in watching a show where one cast member threatens another. Would that have been acceptable if, say, one of the husbands threatened to beat the crap out of another cast member? Nope, and it is should not be tolerated because it came from a woman. Especially one who apparently has been charged with assault previously. So Bravo, if Kelly returns, I. AM. DONE.

I am pretty much done with Vicki too. It is obvious from the previews that she is lying about Shannon and David to get back at Shannon. But Shannon is the one who believed Vicki and Brooks to the point of getting a specialist appointment for Brooks. But Vicki is too stupid to understand that she and Brooks took advantage of Shannon and David. And why is no one bringing up her new boyfriend's own past violent behaviour? I can't believe that Brianna is so desperate for her mother to have a boyfriend that she is OK with his past. But then again she was OK with her own husband threatening a little old lady, so I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree as far as acceptable behaviour in a significant other is concerned. Keep the whole family off my TV next year. Narcissists as not all that entertaining and Kelly and Vicki bring zero to the show.

OK, I take it back. It was entertaining when Heather pointed out to Vicki, after she claimed that Heather took away some of her excitment in getting flowers in Ireland, that she did not write that Vicki sent them to herself until months later. It is fun to see Vicki's stupidity and narcissism exposed, but it is not worth putting up with a whole season of Vicki and little Vicki for a crumb of entertainment tossed here and there.

Edited November 15, 2016 by UsernameFatigue

[WireWrap]

36 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

Did Vicki buy Brianna's house or just give the down payment?  She said both but the down payment is much more Vicki's style...

Yes, it was only the down payment. It is Vicki's MO to say she "bought" Briana or Michael a house/car/whatever when all she did was give them the down payment, she did that with both the car and the SUV she gave to Briana. LOL

[annewithaneee]

God, it sucks that the only person going in on faux-intellectual Heather is the unhinged and nutrocious Kelly. The behind-the-scenes footage was sort of interesting, though, in that I bet it's a nightmare to deal with her as a crew member. 

Kelly, my god. She's not an alcoholic because she hasn't gotten a DUI, and she attended AA "classes"? I'm guessing as a poster mentioned above is she meant she was court-ordered to a set number of meetings; as far as I'm aware AA is just a support group and twelve step program, it doesn't assess or diagnose anyone with shit. Now, a rehab center or addictions specialist might point out that you have a problem and recommend AA as a part of your treatment, but that's different. I too have been to a decent handful of meetings (part of my BSW coursework, and we got the group's permission ahead of time to come, and identified ourselves to the group as students and observers, all that good stuff) and there's nothing major to it other than sharing, usually around a certain topic, serenity prayers, and a shit-ton of coffee. My guess is she thought "well I'm not as bad as these people", like an asshole, and determined she must not have a problem. 

[ParadoxLost]

3 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

OK, I take it back. It was entertaining when Heather pointed out to Vicki, after she claimed that Heather took away some of her excitment in getting flowers in Ireland, that she did not write that Vicki sent them to herself until months later. It is fun to see Vicki's stupidity and narcissism exposed, but it is not worth putting up with a whole season of Vicki and little Vicki for a crumb of entertainment tossed here and there.

I think for Vicki that the excitement of getting flowers in Ireland was in the TV air timeline of it.  Everyone who watches the show saw Vicki get flowers in Ireland and must acknowledge she has a BF that cares enough to send while she is overseas and that makes the Brooks thing go away as far as she is concerned.  This is what Heather ruined for her.  I think the portrayal of her on the show is actually more important to Vicki than how things actually happen in her real life at this point.

[chick binewski]

7 minutes ago, annewithaneee said:

God, it sucks that the only person going in on faux-intellectual Heather is the unhinged and nutrocious Kelly. The behind-the-scenes footage was sort of interesting, though, in that I bet it's a nightmare to deal with her as a crew member. 

Yeah. I thought the most recent RHOC behind the scenes shed a lot of light on this branch of the franchise. It's mentioned that Heather has a bunch of friends that she'd like to have on the show (like Jim Edmunds' wives before he divorces them, I guess?) and it seems like every season she has a meltdown that leads to her referencing these 'friends' who should replace whomever is having a fit that doesn't align with Heather's position.

Heather says Terry forged her signature for this show, but...she had to make the audition tape. And she wasn't hired the first season she submitted the tape. What did Terry do? Keep forging her signature every year? I have to believe she loves this as much as Terry and is terrified to be in her cavernous home alone with her embryo etchings. 

[breezy424]

The 'calm down' game playing continued.  Nice try Vicki.  Gosh, I wish someone on the couch, at some point, tells Vicky to 'calm down'.

I love when a housewife responds that their child doesn't watch the show, therefore, it doesn't or will not  affect them.  I'm looking at you Bethenny Frankel.  The internet isn't dying anytime soon and the clips, instagrams, etc. of their behavior aren't going away either.  It also reminds me of Tre's delusion of thinking her 'girls' didn't know she wasn't at 'camp'.

I love that Vicky had no choice but to go with team Kelly at the reunion.  There were no other options.  Vicky is delusional and she knows Kelly is even more so.  Vicky lies and tries to justify but Kelly really takes the cake.  She must have spent a lot of her life around ignorant people to firmly believe she's getting over on people.  She definitely wasn't tonight.  She graduated college and was in the business world you know....

I'm not a Heather fan but I did like her tonight.  She was pretty honest about things.  I do think she had some regrets about the things she said about Terry.

I'm also sure that Vicky didn't buy Briana the house.  Down payment because she 'needed' Briana.  Payback for any mortgage payments are definitely in the written contract agreement she made Briana sign.  Speaking of Briana, I do think she works hard and I do feel bad for her going through so many medical problems while trying to raise two children.  Would I let my mother's boyfriend of seven months take care of my children?  Um. No.

Looking to next week:  Vicky claims she has 'proof' that David beat up Shannon.  Is it proof or another one of her 'rumors'?

[yourmomiseasy]

Kelly is a fucking loon.

[zoeysmom]

So Vicki is dating a cop who doesn't have the where for all to watch the show?  Sounds like she found Barney Fife.

[zoeysmom]

Of interest there was a clip where Briana says something about her mother's relationship with the truth-what happened to that segment?  http://www.movienewsguide.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county-spoilers-vickis-daughter-reveals-truth/308387  I wonder what made Bravo pull the segment?

[straightshooter]

5 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

So Vicki is dating a cop who doesn't have the where for all to watch the show?  Sounds like she found Barney Fife.

I wonder if she loses sleep at night, fearing that he'll binge watch the show and realize just who this woman is that he's dating.  

[annewithaneee]

13 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Looking to next week:  Vicky claims she has 'proof' that David beat up Shannon.  Is it proof or another one of her 'rumors'?

I mean, there's proof that David plead guilty to assault and battery of a cohabitant (meaning Shannon). Not sure if that's all Vicki's going to bring up. 

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

Yes, it was only the down payment. It is Vicki's MO to say she "bought" Briana or Michael a house/car/whatever when all she did was give them the down payment, she did that with both the car and the SUV she gave to Briana. LOL

She also said that Briana had to pay her back when she sold the house in OK.

Vicki you flashed your tits on national television but your too shy to talk about corrective surgery? did she film it for botched or something?

Edited November 15, 2016 by biakbiak

[yourmomiseasy]

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

If Bravo brings back Kelly, I am out. I have a very low tolerance for stupid people, but Kelly's issues go way beyond stupidity. She apparently thinks that anger management classes exist to promote violence? She stated that if she were still taking anger management classes she would beat the crap out of Tamra. That not only makes no sense (big surprise) but I have no interest in watching a show where one cast member threatens another. Would that have been acceptable if, say, one of the husbands threatened to beat the crap out of another cast member? Nope, and it is should not be tolerated because it came from a woman. Especially one who apparently has been charged with assault previously. So Bravo, if Kelly returns, I. AM. DONE.

 

I think she said that if she hadn't had the anger management courses she'd be beating the crap out of Tamra, so her current lunacy is actually an improvement.  

[kdl88]

I feel like Kelly got some advice from someone to refuse to take responsibility for anything. Bad advice. She came off as even more of a garbage person than during the season. 

ETA: Kelly looked straight up ugly tonight with that angry sneer all night. 

Edited November 15, 2016 by kdl88

[biakbiak]

I loved Vicki's face as Kelly just kept getting more and more ridiculous. 

[DrivingSideways]

I dunno. My viewing party loved Kelly and Vicki. Kelly nailed All the women at various points  about their hypocrisy. Shannon knowing in her heart Vicki was right about the vow renewal.... and my favorite quote - Vickis "we all talk behind each other's back". Kelly and Vicki are crazy but made their cases against the other 3 adequately. 

The montage of Tamra being a toxic troll in previous seasons was great. 

[Watermelon]

1 hour ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I think she said that if she hadn't had the anger management courses she'd be beating the crap out of Tamra, so her current lunacy is actually an improvement.  

That's not what she said. She's an idiot though, so it's probably what she meant.

[ilovetrashtv]

I think I am out next season unless there is a significant change in the cast, and by that, I mean getting rid of some of these people. Yes, we watch this show for the drama, but it was so nasty and hateful this season it was painful to watch. 

[UsernameFatigue]

1 hour ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I think she said that if she hadn't had the anger management courses she'd be beating the crap out of Tamra, so her current lunacy is actually an improvement.  

No, what she said when Andy asked her if she was back in anger management classes was "No, I've already taken them. If I was in anger management I would have beat the crap out of Tamra." Kelly is an idiot, often incapable of stringing together a coherent sentence. Bravo, please get this interloper off my screen.

Edited November 15, 2016 by UsernameFatigue

[lasandi]

I believe that David did something physical to Shannon because of the way Shannon is crying as she protests.  Do I believe David "beat the crap out of her" no, but something did happen.  When Shannon 's mil said what she said at that renewal Shannon was pissed, hollering at David with her signature "are you kidding me right now".  When Vicki mentions the David beat up, her reaction is quite different.  So I do believe something happened and it could of been something as small as a push.

[Petunia13]

Did Heather say her house cost $21 million? 

[Ubiquitous]

Heather didn't say how much her house cost, but Kelly said 'at least $20M' when asked by Andy.

 

6 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Kelly was ordered to attend 6 AA meetings in conjunction with her battery conviction-against her husband.  I don't think AA meeting assess whether or not you have a drinking problem.

Isn't one of the big things in AA that if you deny being an alcoholic, then you are one? Yeah, her other claim that she wasn't one b/c she didn't have a DUI was ridiculous.

I think Kelly said she would have beaten up Tamra if she hadn't taken anger management classes but there was too much cross-talk and other noise, but this is giving her the benefit of the doubt.

1 hour ago, lasandi said:

I believe that David did something physical to Shannon because of the way Shannon is crying as she protests.  Do I believe David "beat the crap out of her" no, but something did happen.  When Shannon 's mil said what she said at that renewal Shannon was pissed, hollering at David with her signature "are you kidding me right now".  When Vicki mentions the David beat up, her reaction is quite different.  So I do believe something happened and it could of been something as small as a push.

Something said about that made me wonder, but not enough to check. When Kelly and Shannon's MiL said something about David "being pushed", did they mean "shoved" or "made to do"? In light of the abuse allegations, I found people claiming David was pushed ambiguous.

7 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

I'm sorry, but when I see Vicki I feel she is the ugliest woman in the world and she makes me nauseous.   How this bitch still holds an insurance license after the kill all cancer scam is beyond me.   She is a morale and moral hazard.   Come on California, yank her license.

Does California have an insurance fraud hotline? I know we do in Florida.

[zoeysmom]

So Kelly made all these fake/rescinded apologies so she could continue to hang out with this group of people she dislikes so much and travel to Ireland?  I can't believe how immature, well actually I can, Vicki was for whispering to Kelly they will turn on each other.  I never really saw any issues between Heather, Tamra and Shannon this season. 

Kelly decided it was okay for her to call Shannon a c*nt and Tamra a dumbfuck at the sushi restaurant because she no longer likes them?  And she detests Heather because Heather did not want to film with her (Andy saying they all do that was pretty funny) any longer? 

I don't how Vicki can sit there with a straight face and encourage Kelly.  Certainly even with Vicki's lack of a moral center she cannot believe at any level that Kelly's behavior is acceptable, not even by the Brooks' standards she lived by for many years.  It was like watching examples of narcissistic and borderline personality disorders unfold on TV.  Most of Kelly accelerators in warped behavior in Ireland were directly linked to her BFF Vicki rejecting her.  I guess her motto is you act out for the ones you love.  From Kelly's, "are there rules in fighting?"  Well, Kells, other than the obvious-don't start fights in the first place, the next level would be, no name-calling and attacks on physical appearance.  I guess the next phase of Kelly will be the ganging up and being bullied phase.  Essentially, in Kelly's no rule universe she can name call, fight, mimic, gossip about the others and surprise when they exclude her she is being ganged up on, they are a collective of bad guys. 

At this point, as much as producers like a polarizing personality, I don't know where they go with her.  Kelly has pretty much said her apologies are insincere, she detests Heather and Shannon and she wants nothing to do with these people because they are so mean to her.  Will the producers have to include a filming bonus to appear with Kelly?  I don't know what Kelly really brings to the table other than anger but maybe that is enough to make the cut for next season.

[lasandi]

I give up on Kelly. I had sympathy for her at some points during the show because I believed her apologies were genuine.  Just when things calmed down, her BFF Vickie, who wanted to be tight again with Tamra and them,threw more fuel on the fire by telling Tamra things Kelly said when she was angry.  Proving once again what a shit ass friend Vickie was to Kelly who stuck up for her and was all alone on "the island".  And Shannon, pushing drinks on Kelly so she can act the fool and she doesn't disappoint.  They obviously like poking the bear and then ganging up on her because they all have each other--clutching their pearls at the horror coming out of her mouth.  I believed those grown ass women acted like mean girls on that bus.  And frankly I was glad when Kelly finally told what Vickie said about them.  Vickie deserved everything they said to her cuz she was a snake.  Geez, I have completely veered away from what I came on here to say.  

I actually came on here to say, Kelly, who has now rescinded her apologies like a petulant child, is coming off so unlikeable that I can hardly believe I felt sorry for her.  That snarl she puts on her face when she talks.  I hope this is her last season.  Whatever her hopes were for being on this show has turned into an epic fail.    

[Mu Shu]

6 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I think she said that if she hadn't had the anger management courses she'd be beating the crap out of Tamra, so her current lunacy is actually an improvement.  

I think her saying that was her pink slip.  Thankfully Tamra took that ammunition to save for later.  I doubt Kelly could beat anyone but Vickis ass, though.  She's all bark like a chihuahua, and only lays hands on men, because like Vicki, she thinks she can hit them with no repercussions.  

[queenjen]

Vicki is setting the notrocious KDudd up again. The whispering on the couch: stay with me, have my back, all that stuff during their break before the 2nd installment? Just as Vicki was nowhere to be seen when Kelly was attacked earlier in the season (due to being back in the group's 'good graces') and Kelly then acting out due to this betrayal, here it all is again during the reunion. Did Vicki intervene even once on Kelly's behalf after their whispered friendship contract on the couch? No. Kelly's passive aggressive pouting and nonsensical explanations and fury have a lot to do with her bestie to her right becoming mute when she gets into it with Heather, Shannon and Tamra. Even Meghan trying to be the voice of reason isn't being heard by Kelly. I have no sympathy for Kelly and she offends me. I just find it interesting and typical that Vicki and she had this mic'd up whispered convo at the beginning of Part 2 of the reunion and Kelly is getting more notrocious and foul with a full installment to go. And it's all down to Vicki. Vicki knows how to play the game, she's at least making sure that there is another body in front of her when it comes time to pull contracts for this franchise.

[Ubiquitous]

I noticed that more often, Bravo leaves the cameras running during their breaks or follows them when they leave the couch area.

[OFDgal]

11 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Kelly attended AA "classes?"  Do such a thing exist?  I can't believe no one corrected her with meeting.  Also, she attended them because of a drunk and disorderly, and coupled with the conduct we saw, she still doesn't think she has a problem with alcohol.

A friend of mine got a DUI.  Not the same as drunk and disorderly but he had to attend safety classes which he had to pay for.  He also had to go to AA meetings.  He had a sheet that he had to have signed by the person running the AA meeting.  I have never heard of AA being referred as to classes rather than meetings. 

[OFDgal]

11 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Kelly was ordered to attend 6 AA meetings in conjunction with her battery conviction-against her husband.  I don't think AA meeting assess whether or not you have a drinking problem.

And for the sake of argument if Kelly doesn't have a drinking problem-why is she so freaked out over Shannon ordering her two drinks in Ireland?

AA meetings are for support.  People that attend meetings consider themselves alcoholics.  It is a safe place for these people with no judgement. They don't assess if you have a drinking problem. If you are there, you are looking for people with the same problems as you for help and understanding.