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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Damn, this is one place I would come close to selling my soul. I would love to try all these different meal subscriptions out, even in the name of shilling. I'm so tired of the, what's for dinner, game. I would just like about 6 months of a break, lol.

So yup, I'm jealous of Jill. In this moment anyway.

I would be happy to make your meals for you. I adore cooking. I adore grocery shopping for my cooking. I read cookbooks for pleasure. I cook all of our meals for the week on Sunday so I never have the dreaded “what’s for dinner?” game. My husband is spoiled rotten and doesn’t even realize it.

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3 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I would be happy to make your meals for you. I adore cooking. I adore grocery shopping for my cooking. I read cookbooks for pleasure. I cook all of our meals for the week on Sunday so I never have the dreaded “what’s for dinner?” game. My husband is spoiled rotten and doesn’t even realize it.

You are my dream come true. I will fix anything that is broken. I will redo anything that needs redoing and I will build you anything that needs building in exchange for you feeding us.

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2 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I would be happy to make your meals for you. I adore cooking. I adore grocery shopping for my cooking. I read cookbooks for pleasure. I cook all of our meals for the week on Sunday so I never have the dreaded “what’s for dinner?” game. My husband is spoiled rotten and doesn’t even realize it.

But are your meals chef "curated" using "clean" ingredients?  

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1 minute ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

But are your meals chef "curated" using "clean" ingredients?  

Oh darn. My bad. I only use “good” ingredients. They are “clean” but not the kind of “clean” JillyMuffin if referring to. Oh well. I guess I won’t be supplying meals for the Dillards.

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

As long as she washes her hands and ties back her hair, I'm good.

Hands are constantly washed, hair is short so…

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8 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

Oh darn. My bad. I only use “good” ingredients. They are “clean” but not the kind of “clean” JillyMuffin if referring to. Oh well. I guess I won’t be supplying meals for the Dillards.

That's okay, I'm sure Jilly Bean doesn't even know what clean even means.  I just looked up the ingredients list for that Fusion FeastBox, and it appears to be no different from what I can go get at my local Food Lion (or the Chinese joint next to the Food Lion)--

INGREDIENTS: KUNG PAO BEEF (BEEF SIRLOIN, KUNG PAO SAUCE (COCONUT AMINOS (COCONUT SAP, SEA SALT), WATER, CHICKEN BROTH, RICE VINEGAR (WATER, RICE), ERYTHRITOL, MONK FRUIT EXTRACT, GARLIC, SESAME OIL, SESAME SEEDS, GROUND GINGER, XANTHAN GUM), KUNG PAO VEG (ZUCCHINI, RED PEPPER, ONION, SCALLIONS, CASHEWS, CHILI FLAKES)), FRIED RICE (RICE, EGGS, CARROTS, PEAS, SOY SAUCE (WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEAN, SALT, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE), SCALLIONS, ONION, AVOCADO OIL, GARLIC, SEA SALT, SESAME OIL, BLACK PEPPER), CHOW MEIN CHINESE (CHOW MEIN NOODLE (CHOW MEIN NOODLES), CHOW MEIN VEG (GREEN CABBAGE, CELERY, ONION, AVOCADO OIL), CHOW MEIN SAUCE (BROWN SUGAR, SOY SAUCE (WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEAN, SALT, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE), GARLIC, GINGER, CANE SUGAR, WATER, BLACK PEPPER)), CHICKEN THIGH, ORANGE SAUCE (BROWN SUGAR, DISTILLED VINEGAR, CORNSTARCH, ORANGE ZEST, ORANGE JUICE, SOY SAUCE (WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEAN, SALT, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE), RICE VINEGAR (WATER, RICE), GINGER, CANE SUGAR, WATER, GARLIC, AVOCADO OIL, SESAME OIL, RED PEPPER FLAKES), STEAMED VEG (BROCCOLI, BLACK PEPPER, GARLIC POWDER, SEA SALT, ZUCCHINI, CARROTS, GREEN BEANS, GARLIC POWDER, BLACK PEPPER, SEA SALT, BLACK PEPPER, SEA SALT), ENRICHED FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID), SUGAR, WATER, SOYBEAN OIL, VANILLA FLAVOR, SALT, BAKING SODA, WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEANS, SALT, ALCOHOL, VINEGAR, LACTIC ACID, CHILI, SUGAR, SALT, GARLIC, DISTILLED VINEGAR, POTASSIUM SORBATE, SODIUM BISULFITE, XANTHAN GUM

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On 1/1/2023 at 6:41 PM, GeeGolly said:

Does Fenna live in the garage? She looked super excited to be let in the house. Every dog I've ever owned saunters into the house like its their kingdom. Plus, I never saw a water bowl anywhere, although maybe she's a toilet (ew) drinker.

I'm not sure I'd traumatize my dog to do DNA. Whether she's "crazy" or not.

She is one pretty dog. 🐕

Getting the DNA only involves swabbing saliva, not traumatic at all.

I, too, really hope that Fenna doesn’t live in the garage!

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1 hour ago, LilJen said:

Getting the DNA only involves swabbing saliva, not traumatic at all.

I, too, really hope that Fenna doesn’t live in the garage!

I was referring to the video. They basically chased Fenna throughout the house then trapped her in a room and kept trying to force the swab in her mouth. It looked pretty traumatic to me.

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15 minutes ago, floridamom said:

These products that Jill advertises, I assume are given FREE to her in exchange for the ads...she gets them for free; WE have to pay for them. I believe the same is for all of the Duggar ladies and Bates ladies. I don't like them doing this. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I wouldn’t be so sure. I get a promo code to share with people automatically from various places (Bombas, Home Chef) and I’m a nobody who barley uses Facebook and never Instagram. They could just be simply sharing those codes. You get a credit if someone uses your referral link.  Maybe these are exclusive deals they have been given to promote, but a lot of these companies give them to anyone.

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2 minutes ago, Trillium said:

I wouldn’t be so sure. I get a promo code to share with people automatically from various places (Bombas, Home Chef) and I’m a nobody who barley uses Facebook and never Instagram. They could just be simply sharing those codes. You get a credit if someone uses your referral link.  Maybe these are exclusive deals they have been given to promote, but a lot of these companies give them to anyone.

She has a paid partnership:

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https://manychat.com/blog/paid-partnerships-on-instagram/

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27 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

She has a paid partnership:

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Even with those, the company doesn’t just give them free stuff upfront. Typically they need X number of people to purchase with her code then Jill would get a credit for future orders or a refund on what they bought. Companies don’t give away free things unless the “influencer” actually gets people to buy the product, unless you are super famous. None of the girls stick with any of these for long, probably because not enough people use their code to make it worth continuing.  

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Its my understanding companies do send the products for free, initial and otherwise. Influencers then shill them with a code personal to them and they see how it goes from there. If it works the influencer gets a small percent of the sales and the company will send new products periodically. With subscription shills the influencer gets a percent for as long as the consumer keeps it going.

If it doesn't work well, the influencer got some free products, the company at least got their name out there, then they both move on.

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I was referring to the video. They basically chased Fenna throughout the house then trapped her in a room and kept trying to force the swab in her mouth. It looked pretty traumatic to me.

That sounds like Jill and Derick.  Why not sneak up on the dog and try to very gently do it while she's asleep?

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3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Its my understanding companies do send the products for free, initial and otherwise. Influencers then shill them with a code personal to them and they see how it goes from there. If it works the influencer gets a small percent of the sales and the company will send new products periodically. With subscription shills the influencer gets a percent for as long as the consumer keeps it going.

If it doesn't work well, the influencer got some free products, the company at least got their name out there, then they both move on.

And in all likelihood, Jill got paid a decent amount of money for just the post itself.

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3 hours ago, Suzn said:

I don't get the difficulty in getting a saliva swab from a dog you know.  You sit down, call the dog, talk to the dog, pet the dog, pick up the swab, and while still petting the dog, quickly dip the swab in the dog's mouth.  There's no reason for difficulty.

I don't know about dogs but if we tried to do that to my cat, blood would be shed. 

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4 hours ago, Suzn said:

I don't get the difficulty in getting a saliva swab from a dog you know.  You sit down, call the dog, talk to the dog, pet the dog, pick up the swab, and while still petting the dog, quickly dip the swab in the dog's mouth.  There's no reason for difficulty.

My Chihuahua would disagree. He seems to instinctively know the difference between a pet and anything else and he fights with the strength of 100 lions. LOLOL

That being said, I'd never chase the little guy through the house like that. 

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2 minutes ago, Zella said:

My Chihuahua would disagree. He seems to instinctively know the difference between a pet and anything else and he fights with the strength of 100 lions. LOLOL

That being said, I'd never chase the little guy through the house like that. 

Obviously, I don't know Chihuahuas!  I'm thinking about my Aussie (profile pic) who would put her chin on my knee and let me do whatever.

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2 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I don't know about dogs but if we tried to do that to my cat, blood would be shed. 

I did that to my cat; he wasn't happy but blood was not shed (and he bites me fairly regularly).  He did chew on the swab a bit, but I still got a reading.

All in all, though, it should have been easy to swab a dog, but I'm sure they made a huge deal out of it and scared her half to death.  

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Wow. 💲💲 I doubt Jill could charge $1000 because her engagement rate is more around 20,000 on average and the recent food subscription post only has 3500. But even if she charged say, $300, she would have made that for about 15 minutes of work and got some free meals. Not bad considering its more than the average person makes in an 8 hour day.

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On 1/4/2023 at 6:13 PM, Zella said:

My Chihuahua would disagree. He seems to instinctively know the difference between a pet and anything else and he fights with the strength of 100 lions. LOLOL

That being said, I'd never chase the little guy through the house like that. 

So would my labs. Even the sweetest most chilled one would fight if you went towards him with a swab. 

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It sounds as if Jill put turkey on the swab to try and get it in Fenna's mouth. What they showed wasn't pretty, I can only imagine how awful what they didn't show us was.

Don't forget, Derick and Jill were part of CatGate.

And there's no way Fenna lives in the house. I'm guessing she spends a lot of time alone in the garage. Also, Derick and Jill, trying to be careful with their words still let it slip out they were only doing the DNA test to see if they can find out why she's "so crazy".

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You don't terrorize your pet just because you're curious about their breeding.  The dog is an adult now, and for better or worse, she's the dog they have trained her to be.  She's not even the breed the shelter said she was.  

I can understand testing a puppy, so you can be aware of potential health risks and behaviors as they grow, and can prepare for them, and aging pet issues down the road.  

Aside from giving her health care, decent food and loving attention, what else does the dog need that the test could make them aware of?  

More stupid behavior from stupid people.  As expected. 

 

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18 minutes ago, SnapHappy said:

I can understand testing a puppy, so you can be aware of potential health risks and behaviors as they grow, and can prepare for them, and aging pet issues down the road.  

I don’t understand why it wouldn’t be a good idea for those reasons, no matter the dog’s age, if it’s a good idea as a puppy.

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All dogs are different even within breeds. Proper attention and proper care, including a Vet, is really all you need. If a dog owner isn't able to provide that I'm in favor of rehoming the pet. The trauma of rehoming is nothing if the dog can end up in a home where its cherished.

Maybe Fenna needs a home with humans who can appreciate (or tame) her crazy and has lots of time for her. IMO, the Dillard home is not a good fit. 

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My first question is if they are walking Fenna twice a day and for how far or how long.  The first rule of thumb is a tired dog is a happy dog.  Dogs need the physical outlet of running and walking and can easily become pains if they don't get enough.  I inherited my mom's hyper herbie dog, but with three moderate walks a day he suddenly became a mostly easily managed, happier lap dog.   He HAD to go out and be in the world and see the sights and smell the smells.  I would bet that neither adult is seeing this from the dog's perspective.  

Second, I would also expect they haven't considered the effect of adding an infant to the family.  Dogs do notice these things.  My daughter's dog quite had her nose out of joint when the first grandchild arrived.  It was funny when the second one came in the door.  The dog stopped, stared, looked like not another one, turned, went upstairs and curled up in a closet.  She was never a fan of crying infants.  At about six months she'd start approaching them though as they dropped food from the high chair or had toys to steal.  No doubt Jill and Derick are doing the reverse of giving the dog a bit of extra attention.

They're more than likely blaming the dog when it's their actions making the situation worse.  Fenna is just a curious, energetic dog who needs an outlet for that and some basic training in acceptable behavior I expect.  

 

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4 hours ago, Absolom said:

My first question is if they are walking Fenna twice a day and for how far or how long.  The first rule of thumb is a tired dog is a happy dog.  Dogs need the physical outlet of running and walking and can easily become pains if they don't get enough.  I inherited my mom's hyper herbie dog, but with three moderate walks a day he suddenly became a mostly easily managed, happier lap dog.   He HAD to go out and be in the world and see the sights and smell the smells.  I would bet that neither adult is seeing this from the dog's perspective.  

Second, I would also expect they haven't considered the effect of adding an infant to the family.  Dogs do notice these things.  My daughter's dog quite had her nose out of joint when the first grandchild arrived.  It was funny when the second one came in the door.  The dog stopped, stared, looked like not another one, turned, went upstairs and curled up in a closet.  She was never a fan of crying infants.  At about six months she'd start approaching them though as they dropped food from the high chair or had toys to steal.  No doubt Jill and Derick are doing the reverse of giving the dog a bit of extra attention.

They're more than likely blaming the dog when it's their actions making the situation worse.  Fenna is just a curious, energetic dog who needs an outlet for that and some basic training in acceptable behavior I expect.  

 

Some of you may know from the Small Talk thread that I grew up in a cat family and inherited my very first dog from a loved one about two years ago (he will have been with me two years next week). 
 

Cosmo is 10, but he’s a big dog (80lbs) and he is WORK. I walk him 2-3x a day for about a mile (that’s his sweet spot) fall-spring (he hates the heat so in the summer it’s only one bigger walk). I can only imagine how active he would be if I just let him out side to use the restroom without proper walks. 
 

I understand that Jill & Derrick have three small kids and may not be interested in giving a dog (or any pet) the type of attention a childfree single person like myself does (and I’m not mad at them for that), but Fenna does need to be walked AND probably played with until she’s tired with Izzy and Sam. She’s a young large dog.
Also I notice the days I am in the office or gone all day (I work hybrid) when I get home Cosmo has NO CHILL, and he does get walked by the same loving human any afternoon I’m not home. 
 

Dogs take a lot of attention, or they are liable to misbehave which makes them harder to live with. 

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On 1/4/2023 at 6:23 PM, libgirl2 said:

I don't know about dogs but if we tried to do that to my cat, blood would be shed. 

I’ve found that dogs are much easier to deal with than cats when it comes to things like that.  I can give dogs a pills in the blink of an eye.  Cats?  After 15 minutes I’ve finally gotten the pill down, but I’ve waste 3 pills and I have blood dripping from 6 open wounds. 🤕

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Dog: wrap pill in a bit of American cheese and casually drop it on the floor.   Cat:  first must catch while out in the open.  For mine I must be wearing a floor length skirted outfit.  Kneel on the floor and back cat into the skirt so it's surrounded by skirt and my knees.  Quickly nab cat on the side of the mouth and pop it open while tipping its head back and dropping in pill.  Hold at until it swallows.  You must be very quick.  I truly prefer fish flavored liquid for cats.  Just drip it on a paw let them lick it off.  

I hope Jill and Derick never have an animal that needs a lot of care if they think chasing the poor dog around just to get a saliva sample is the way to go.

I wonder how Jill is coping if she's back to taking dinners to be with Derick.  Perhaps it's better for the kids to get to see him a little than for them to be already in bed if he's working late a lot.  

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9 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Fenna does need to be walked AND probably played with until she’s tired with Izzy and Sam.

Since we've speculated that Izzy and Sam don't attend regular school and are home all day, I'm thinking Fenna probably gets more playtime with them than she would in a family whose kids are not around all day.  She seems healthy and well cared for.

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7 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Since we've speculated that Izzy and Sam don't attend regular school and are home all day, I'm thinking Fenna probably gets more playtime with them than she would in a family whose kids are not around all day.  She seems healthy and well cared for.

And they don't seem afraid of her. 

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36 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Photo shows Izzy "learninh" by drawing on windows with erasable ink. That's the most direct evidence that he's now being homeschooled.

The evidence is actually in the comments. Ten people asked if he's being homeschooled. While responding to other comments, she conveniently skipped all of those.

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