Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Zella]

Yeah the property taxes here are very low. In my county, they are getting ready to increase by about 45% over the next 4 years, which has a lot of people angry and terrified, but it would probably still be well below what is considered average elsewhere. 

[frenchtoast]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Wow, property taxes are that low it AR? Lucky them.

Taking reply to Small Talk

[lascuba]

7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Wow, property taxes are that low it AR? Lucky them.

 

*Crying in New Jersey*

[hathorlive]

9 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

A couple things that I think Derick (and Jill) skirted around in his deposition. First implying he went to school for free. I don't think any scholarship money he received covered the full cost of attending school as he does not check any of the boxes for a full ride. Secondly, we know the Dillard's expenses were far more than Derick's monthly $800 Grub Hub income and Jill's $10,000 SM income for that year. Combined that's less than $20,000. It seems to me the Dillard's left out the fact that they received a hefty settlement prior to the year they were questioned about.

I'm guessing their property taxes alone would be at around $5000 - $10,000. And their food bill (even with "donations") would be at around $10,000 for the year. That doesn't leave much, or any money left over.

How would they have paid for utilities, two cars, clothing, vacations and the rest of their expenses?

I thought he said he received a partial scholarship and paid for the rest of education with savings and jobs?  Also, Jill mentions savings, so maybe they were paid more by JB than the cost of their house, which allowed them to put 25K or so in the bank as savings?  Also, Jill gave one year of social media money, correct? Or did I remember wrong?  Maybe the year before she made more money?  I don't know, it seems VERY tight.  But I won't ever make fun of her cream of crap recipes again.  If that's all you can afford, then it's all you can afford.  The great tragedy in this country is that high fructose items are cheap and fresh fruits and veggies aren't.  

The good news is, regardless of how truthful they are about law school loans, is that they made a great profit on selling their house.  They are moving to a lower cost region (compared with Little Rock that had been speculated) and if there are no law school loans, Derrick's salary will be a lot of fresh fruits and veggies for a family of six (if you count Fenna. And I do because my two dogs eat fresh organic food only, while I supplement my diet with carbs).   It's a good life for Jill, compared to some of her siblings.  

[GeeGolly]

22 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

I thought he said he received a partial scholarship and paid for the rest of education with savings and jobs?  Also, Jill mentions savings, so maybe they were paid more by JB than the cost of their house, which allowed them to put 25K or so in the bank as savings?  Also, Jill gave one year of social media money, correct? Or did I remember wrong?  Maybe the year before she made more money?  I don't know, it seems VERY tight.  But I won't ever make fun of her cream of crap recipes again.  If that's all you can afford, then it's all you can afford.  The great tragedy in this country is that high fructose items are cheap and fresh fruits and veggies aren't.  

The good news is, regardless of how truthful they are about law school loans, is that they made a great profit on selling their house.  They are moving to a lower cost region (compared with Little Rock that had been speculated) and if there are no law school loans, Derrick's salary will be a lot of fresh fruits and veggies for a family of six (if you count Fenna. And I do because my two dogs eat fresh organic food only, while I supplement my diet with carbs).   It's a good life for Jill, compared to some of her siblings.  

No doubt they've been living on Jill's pay out from JB and prior to that TLC money. Derick has only worked one full-time job, for one year, during the time they've been married.

Jill's cream of crap recipes seemed to occur during a time when they weren't struggling financially. Actually from the outside looking in, it has never seemed as if the Dillards had any money problems. They have cars, a home, they travel two or three times a year. They eat out, attend fairs and such. Jill seems to shop fairly regularly.

As far as fruits and veggies, I believe Jill has had a garden for the last 2 or 3 summers.

I've seen no indications they've been one step away from needing entitlement assistance.

My granddog, and I would guess Fenna too, eats bagged kibble.

Edited May 19, 2022 by GeeGolly

[madpsych78]

My mind is still kind of blown that Jinger has reportedly earned the highest salary (my understanding was that the greater than 100K/less than 200K range excluded Jeremy). I realize they're the only ones who published a couple of books, but IIRC, there was more known banning of Jinger by the companies she had partnered with than with any of the other Duggar sisters. Like I didn't know Joy had the same experience. 

We only know about Jeremy signing that petition because there are some super sleuthers out there who found it, but I don't think it's been something that was really broadcast publicly - in contrast with Derick and his very publicized tweets about Jazz. 

[lascuba]

4 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

My mind is still kind of blown that Jinger has reportedly earned the highest salary (my understanding was that the greater than 100K/less than 200K range excluded Jeremy). I realize they're the only ones who published a couple of books, but IIRC, there was more known banning of Jinger by the companies she had partnered with than with any of the other Duggar sisters. Like I didn't know Joy had the same experience. 

We only know about Jeremy signing that petition because there are some super sleuthers out there who found it, but I don't think it's been something that was really broadcast publicly - in contrast with Derick and his very publicized tweets about Jazz. 

I think Jinger's social media presence is more organized and polished, and she therefore had more sponsors to begin with, that were paying her more because more polish =  more clicks, and so though she lost gigs, she still had others. Jessa's  and Joy's sm presences are varying degrees of hot mess. Neither of them seem to enjoy it at all and both are inconsistent posters, with Jessa going through periods of making some effort but ultimately flailing and failing, and Joy occasionally advertising something everyone knows she doesn't use (fake lashes? Really?!). $30-40K/per year in influencer income is nothing to sneeze at, but they're getting that purely from name recognition, not through any real effort. Jill's improved from her days of making her baby cry hysterically for the laughs, but polished she's not, her husband is unpleasant on every level, and they can be as bad as Jessa in that they do the worst damage to their own image when they're trying to make themselves look better. Remember that video they did explaining how they weren't anti-LGBTQ because they would be polite if they ever happen to be in a trans person's house? 

I'm not surprised Jill earned the least out of the four. They have the same vile beliefs but Jinger has enough sense listen to whoever advised her to keep her instagram posts in the "nice," generic Christian category; Jessa is lazy and abrasive but hate followers count just as much as fans; Joy is...there, I guess; and Jill is a really "nice" Christian who needs people to like her and her her husband so she'll occasionally sit there and sincerely and nicely explain why being a bigot doesn't mean she and her husband aren't nice. You can't want to be espouse your shitty beliefs and be so needy for public approval at the same time. Pick a struggle.

[Lady Whistleup]

I still have PTSD from the week or so Joy plugged those hideous magnetic eyelashes on her IG nonstop.

I also remember Jessa plugging those pillows.

I think the lack of income from SM stems from the usual lack of Duggar discipline and structure. I actually know someone who quit her six figure job as a nurse to become a energy/reiki/crypto/yoni-wand-and-eggs healer. She's constantly plugging zoom workshops and "donation-based" tarot card readings on IG -- it's a nonstop job. You need to also constantly be hustling people for money -- she charges five figures for these "journeys" with her. 

[ginger90]

New house 10 pictures:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd3tpZPO_m8/

[emmawoodhouse]

So they got this company from NWA to go to Stillwell for the kitchen remodel and bedroom repainting? Well, I guess they had some fun money after selling, and I imagine Stillwell is cheaper.

[Suzn]

10 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

New house 10 pictures:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd3tpZPO_m8/

Really, really bland.

[Heathen]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

New house 10 pictures:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd3tpZPO_m8/

I like the new kitchen. It's bright and less cowboy than the old one. 

The rest gives me a headache. ETA: The before pics give me a headache. The after is ok. 

Edited May 22, 2022 by Heathen
Clarification (which is not anything to do with Justin and Claire)

[iwantcookies]

36 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Really, really bland.

I mean it’s Jill she IS bland. Didn’t she post bland oatmeal shade family pics in the weeds? Of maybe it was Jessa.

Dereck married well got himself a wife with $. Let’s see if he keeps this job and actually builds his own wealth. 
 

 

[sagittarius sue]

40 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Really, really bland.

Solid white kitchens are not so popular now.  What I like is when people have white upper cabinets, they have a vivid color on the lowers, such as cobalt blue.  I preferred the accent walls in the bedrooms, now they're just meh.

2 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Didn’t she post bland oatmeal shade family pics in the weeds? Of maybe it was Jessa.

I think they've all done the oatmeal and weeds pictures with Jessa doing it the most.

Edited May 22, 2022 by sagittarius sue
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[iwantcookies]

What happened to Jill selling sex guides/games? Lemon & parsley gig is over too? 
 

Hope she hangs her wedding bouquet somewhere 🤣! 
 

By the hashtags sure looks like they got the remodel discount/free.

 

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, Suzn said:

Really, really bland.

Watch an episode or two of HouseHunters; everybody MUST have white kitchen cupboards.  The after pictures look like any random rooms on that show.  Apparently, that's what sells these days; colorless.

Personally, I like the accent walls, but they are pretty vibrant colors, so I could see wanting to perhaps tone them down if only so as not to have to run out to buy new spreads and accessories to match them if the ones I already had clashed.

It does look like they cut a deal with the remodeler to help pay for the painting.  Good for them, that stuff is pricey.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Notabug

[Zella]

2 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

So they got this company from NWA to go to Stillwell for the kitchen remodel and bedroom repainting? Well, I guess they had some fun money after selling, and I imagine Stillwell is cheaper.

It's so close to the border that it wouldn't surprise me if the company included the Stillwell area in their service area or didn't even raise an eyebrow about the request. 

[emmawoodhouse]

3 minutes ago, Zella said:

It's so close to the border that it wouldn't surprise me if the company included the Stillwell area in their service area or didn't even raise an eyebrow about the request. 

How far is Stillwell from Lowell? I noticed it's a bit south, hugging the AR border,. IIRC.

Okay, I looked it up. It's about an hour away, maybe a little less if the company is in Springdale or Fayetteville.

Edited May 22, 2022 by emmawoodhouse

[Zella]

Just now, emmawoodhouse said:

How far is Stillwell from Lowell? I noticed it's a bit south, hugging the AR border,. IIRC.

I honestly didn't realize how close it was until I looked at a map. It's like an hour and a half away, maybe two hours tops. 

[lookeyloo]

I like their new kitchen.  I have a white kitchen.  Painted cabinets in old house and then got my dream white IKEA kitchen in this house.  Not tired of it at all and don't care what trends are. I'll bet they don't much either. have very few things out on the counters but do have tiles of the grandkids hands over the years, which are colorful, leaning up against the backsplash.    We also painted this house "bland" colors and have my colorful quilts around and also some colorful framed things on the walls.  So maybe Jill will upgrade from JB and Michelle in the bathroom and dried weeds around to something colorful that can be changed out as the mood strikes.  Tastes are personal and if we all went with the trends we'd be redoing every few years. 

[ginger90]

Has it been confirmed they bought a house in Stilwell?

[emmawoodhouse]

14 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Has it been confirmed they bought a house in Stilwell?

From what I found on the Assessor's page, you need an address to search. They don't have name searches like the counties in AR where we search.

[ginger90]

13 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

From what I found on the Assessor's page, you need an address to search. They don't have name searches like the counties in AR where we search.

I’ll take that as a no.

[emmawoodhouse]

Just now, ginger90 said:

I’ll take that as a no.

It's not confirmed, but their presence there at the strawberry festival as well as Derick's registration at the courthouse certainly point that way.

[CalicoKitty]

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

I  Tastes are personal and if we all went with the trends we'd be redoing every few years. 

I think that may be the point.  How would the design shows on TV exist if they couldn't change the "tastes" and trends every few years.  I love my "bland" walls, but my home  decor is anything but colorless.  Artwork, quilts, rugs.  Everyone has their own tastes, but I prefer calm and restful colors on the walls.

Edited May 22, 2022 by CalicoKitty
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[lookeyloo]

21 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I think that may be the point.  How would the design shows on TV exist if they couldn't change the "tastes" and trends every few years.  I love my "bland" walls, but my home  decor is anything but colorless.  Artwork, quilts, rugs.  Everyone has their own tastes, but I prefer calm and restful colors on the walls.

Agree. It is easier to change out accessories than paint walls and get new furniture. 

[GeeGolly]

White kitchens aren't my choice, but a huge improvement with that kitchen. I need my house to be alive, so even with light colored walls I have color everywhere. I hope Jill at least add some fun details to the big boys' room. 

Yeesh, the Dillards go from selling their house to having their new, out of state house almost move in ready and Jessa is going on like a year now. I get Jessa was doing major reno, but it seems to be taking forever.

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

White kitchens aren't my choice, but a huge improvement with that kitchen. I need my house to be alive, so even with light colored walls I have color everywhere. I hope Jill at least add some fun details to the big boys' room. 

Yeesh, the Dillards go from selling their house to having their new, out of state house almost move in ready and Jessa is going on like a year now. I get Jessa was doing major reno, but it seems to be taking forever.

Jessa was waiting on kitchen cabinets and likely other appliances. No word if those have come in. But they were packing stuff (I guess like toys and clothes not in current rotation) like two months ago. 

The Dillards have to move much faster than that, and they are as evidenced by the sale of some household items.

[Minivanessa]

I searched the property records for Benton County, Arkansas. Where I found that the Dillards bought a house there earlier this month. It's located in a town close to the state line, so if Derick's going to work in Stilwell he won't have a big commute. I'm not going to post the details of the location - I believe that kind of personal information is not to be shared here - but I think it's okay to say they are still living in Arkansas. 

[emmawoodhouse]

5 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I searched the property records for Benton County, Arkansas. Where I found that the Dillards bought a house there earlier this month. It's located in a town close to the state line, so if Derick's going to work in Stilwell he won't have a big commute. I'm not going to post the details of the location - I believe that kind of personal information is not to be shared here - but I think it's okay to say they are still living in Arkansas. 

Interesting. It's about an hour commute to Stillwell from Benton County. 

[Absolom]

Just picking a town off the map it's 36 minutes from Siloam Springs to Stillwell as the traffic is now on a Sunday afternoon.  Perhaps they picked a kind of halfway point from his job and his mother?

[ginger90]

The house is nice and they paid less than asking. 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, and a fenced yard.

[Zella]

That seems like a pretty good compromise for an Oklahoma job and NWA ties. If he ends up wanting to work again in the NWA area after Stilwell, that location is a reasonable commute from there as well. 

[emmawoodhouse]

22 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Just picking a town off the map it's 36 minutes from Siloam Springs to Stillwell as the traffic is now on a Sunday afternoon.  Perhaps they picked a kind of halfway point from his job and his mother?

I picked the town they currently live in. It's off the highway, apparently. 😀

[iwantcookies]

So Dereck gets an office. 2 oldest share a room. Baby gets a room. Parents get a master. 
 

or 

parents get 1

office for D

3 boys share

guestroom 

For some reason I think it will be option 2.

[ginger90]

2 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

So Dereck gets an office. 2 oldest share a room. Baby gets a room. Parents get a master. 
 

or 

parents get 1

office for D

3 boys share

guestroom 

For some reason I think it will be option 2.

 One of the bedrooms is on the main level. I know what I would do, I’m curious what they will choose.

[emmawoodhouse]

Since they're moving right near the highway, it's not a bad commute for Derelict. It's farther from Cathy than their current house, but still reasonable. Izzy will have to change schools though. Thank goodness he's still so young and seems to be a friendly kid.

[Nysha]

3 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

So Dereck gets an office. 2 oldest share a room. Baby gets a room. Parents get a master. 

 

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

 One of the bedrooms is on the main level. I know what I would do, I’m curious what they will choose.

Logically, I would think that the downstairs bedroom will be Derick's office, then Israel and Sam share, the baby gets his own, and Derick & Jill get the master. Since Israel and Sam are both going to have to get up for school next fall, I hope they don't put the baby in their room. 

[GeeGolly]

The Dillard's new home is quite nice. They'll have plenty of room to spread out.

I hope Jill does a better job than the previous owner in decorating the expansive wall.

[Jynnan tonnix]

I like the white kitchen. We have been wanting to do ours over in white for the almost 10 years we have been here now, but other projects keep getting priority. Ah, well...

All white kitchens may be waning a little in popularity, but I do think that they will always fall into the "classic" category, and never go completely out of style. 

[Nysha]

I like a white kitchen, also. It's so easy to add color with decorations, curtains, and other things that having color on the walls isn't necessary. I prefer her white bedroom walls to the bold colors that were there originally, but I like my bedroom painted a soft, muted blue or green. 

[crazy8s]

well we know the space over the cabinets will be where Jill places every dead and dusty bouquet Derick has ever given her. Just like it was in the house they sold. Also those baskety wall hanging things with the dusty fake greenery she got from Grandma Mary's house will need to be in the living room again.

I have been doing a lot of painting this year for various folks and not one person has picked white, off white or beige. It makes my heart happy to paint a color. This week I have painted 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. light mint green in one with a darker green in the adjoining bath. The other was called french vanilla, so a yellow, with the bath a lighter yellow from the same color strip. 🙂

[Suzn]

Apparently I am in a small minority in liking to be surrounded by color.  I don't do loud or overbearing colors, but I like a few saturated colors and subtle, slightly muted light colors and and a small amount of a warm off white.

[Ohiopirate02]

5 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Apparently I am in a small minority in liking to be surrounded by color.  I don't do loud or overbearing colors, but I like a few saturated colors and subtle, slightly muted light colors and and a small amount of a warm off white.

Taking my reply over to Small Talk.

[Cinnabon]

9 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Apparently I am in a small minority in liking to be surrounded by color.  I don't do loud or overbearing colors, but I like a few saturated colors and subtle, slightly muted light colors and and a small amount of a warm off white.

I’m with you, I love color.

[Dehumidifier]

4 hours ago, crazy8s said:

well we know the space over the cabinets will be where Jill places every dead and dusty bouquet Derick has ever given her. Just like it was in the house they sold. Also those baskety wall hanging things with the dusty fake greenery she got from Grandma Mary's house will need to be in the living room again.

Maybe having a better income stream will enable them to buy better furniture and decorate more nicely in the new home. 

[Dimi1]

I love the decorating of the novogratz...at least some of their stuff...they do alot of color...my next house ( looking now!)..I am doing greens and blues and sun yellow...I want to bring the outside in and have my home reflect the brightness and beauty of the blue of the sea and sky the yellow of the sun and the green of grass and trees....

[Lady Whistleup]

Well the house is a nice upgrade. 

[hathorlive]

21 hours ago, Suzn said:

Apparently I am in a small minority in liking to be surrounded by color.  I don't do loud or overbearing colors, but I like a few saturated colors and subtle, slightly muted light colors and and a small amount of a warm off white.

My walls are aubergine with a bit of grey on some smaller walls. I love rich colors. I have 3/4 of the outer walls as windows, so it never seems dark.  I'm sure that Jill is excited about all the dead things she can put around the space.  Hopefully, she'll save all the big projects for when the new baby is settled.  Nice big yard for Fenna and the kids.  It needs trees and flowers!  If that house was 80K more than their old house, they sold high and bought low. Good job, Dillards.

16 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Maybe having a better income stream will enable them to buy better furniture and decorate more nicely in the new home. 

I don't have human kids but I do know that kids and new furniture is not always a happy union.  My mother waited for us to get older before buying new furniture and at that point, there were grandkids.  I think Jill's furniture is fine.  

[Dehumidifier]

4 hours ago, hathorlive said:

I don't have human kids but I do know that kids and new furniture is not always a happy union.  My mother waited for us to get older before buying new furniture and at that point, there were grandkids.  I think Jill's furniture is fine.  

I was thinking of the kitchen table and chairs.