Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[ozziemom]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Even with so many lakes in their area, I don't think the Duggars left the compound much. Most of the Duggar 'skills' are things that can be learned in and around the home, so I'm not surprised swimming lessons weren't a regular thing.

Plus there’s the whole Duggar time issue to contend with any sort of scheduled lessons. I think Meechelle said there were too many kids to try and do any kind of team sports or something like that. I bet the only reason they had music lessons was the teacher came to them.

[Teriacky]

If my grandmother had died in a swimming pool (like Mary) I would make damn sure the rest of my family could swim. 

[crazy8s]

57 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

Plus there’s the whole Duggar time issue to contend with any sort of scheduled lessons. I think Meechelle said there were too many kids to try and do any kind of team sports or something like that. I bet the only reason they had music lessons was the teacher came to them.

the other reason would be they used to perform in churches for love offerings I think. so music lessons contributed to JB/duggar enterprises. Swimming or sports for the kids was not going to bring in cash for JB, so no sports.

[GeeGolly]

49 minutes ago, Teriacky said:

If my grandmother had died in a swimming pool (like Mary) I would make damn sure the rest of my family could swim. 

I agree, but I don't think Mary drowned because she couldn't swim. I believe she had a medical emergency and drowned.

[Teriacky]

Oh, I agree. But.. since there was a pool at that house, it would have been easy for one of the non-swimming kids to slip in and drown. 

[Dimi1]

the daily mail...just posted Derick passed the bar exam...

[emmawoodhouse]

8 minutes ago, Dimi1 said:

the daily mail...just posted Derick passed the bar exam...

They're only like a week late. 😂

[Dimi1]

4 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

They're only like a week late. 😂

oh dear...I am behind too....I just found out today....:)

[Madtown]

Jill got her hair done. 
 

[GeeGolly]

Huh, the hairdressers I know won't color pregnant women's hair.

[BigBingerBro]

Good for her for making a change but I think it washes her out

[Absolom]

She missed the shining opportunity to lose four inches of split ends.  

I'm glad she's going to a salon, but hopefully next time they'll nudge to a better color for her skin tone.  

[Rootbeer]

38 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Huh, the hairdressers I know won't color pregnant women's hair.

It is perfectly safe for pregnant women to get their hair colored, permed, whatever.  However, I think the color is too light and washes her out.  I think Jill should've gone a litte darker blond, maybe she can get some lowlights.

[GeeGolly]

20 minutes ago, Rootbeer said:

It is perfectly safe for pregnant women to get their hair colored, permed, whatever.  However, I think the color is too light and washes her out.  I think Jill should've gone a litte darker blond, maybe she can get some lowlights.

Maybe its more about inhaling the vapors than exposing the skin, but safe or not, the hairdressers I know still don't color pregnant women's hair.

I agree with you and other posters - the color is too light for Jill's complexion. Also, long hair never fares well at being colored. Jill's hair is going to look like Jinger's did before this kid is born.

[Kiss my mutt]

Way too light for her, she looks washed out and over processed. She really needs to take off some length, especially with the lightening she had done, 

[emmawoodhouse]

Her ends are scraggly. 

I have Jill's pale coloring. I won't go lighter than honey blonde.

[Zella]

I don't have the greatest eye for color, but yeesh that shade doesn't look good with her complexion at all. 

[awaken]

Great that she went to a salon, but the color is all wrong and the hair looks frizzy. 

[Lady Whistleup]

Way too blonde. Doesn't look good on her. I think her natural dirty blonde hair is actually best.

Nice that she went to a salon and did something nice for herself though.

[auntieminem]

I liked the color she did last time better, it was not as light.  But she is happy with it so that is all that matters. I stopped coloring my hair but when I did it was perfectly safe and no bad fumes either. I am super sensitive to some coloring so could only use certain kinds.  Totally safe for pregnant women. 

[BetyBee]

I'm glad Jill's happy with this change, but I agree with the general consensus here. She needs a serious trim and that color is too light for her skin tone.

(I guess I haven't posted in this thread for a while! When I went to reply, there was an old reply I must never have submitted about Derick's take on Christianity.)

[lascuba]

That color is awful on her, but what really stands out to me is how unpolished her hair looks. I'd be pissed if I get out of the salon chair and my blowout looked that frizzy.

I'm guessing she didn't like her hair when she got that big cut...I can't think of any other reason she wouldn't get those dead ends cut when she was already there for a (bad) color and (worse) blowout.

[GeeGolly]

This is what Jill has to look forward to - and these are the good pictures. Below are links to Jinger's 2ish year journey from blonde back to brunette.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByYcyfHBjgS/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8H8XLtllDC/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR9trSYBpyi/

[Ohiopirate02]

I agree that color is wrong for Jill.  The problem is that kind of color requires makeup and Jill is not a makeup person.  Sure she lines her eyes, applies a coat or two of mascara, and uses some kind of foundation, but those are not enough.  She needs to wear a full face of makeup to make it work.  She needs blush and lipstick.  

[Triple P]

I will reserve judgment on the new color until I see pictures of Jill in natural light. I remember thinking the color she picked was not good when she posted pictures from the salon the first time around. I think the salon just has bad lighting. But yes, at least trim the split ends, even if you don't want a big change in length.

[SnapHappy]

Her hair looks like hammered crap.  Supercuts would have done a better job.  That "salon" she keeps going to is taking her money and probably laughing behind her back.  

She goes quite a bit, so to say she's "treating herself" is a joke.  She has as many pics of her salon visits as she does her family.  

[BigBingerBro]

Elsewhere there are many comments that her hair looks like a bad at-home bleach job

[Ljohnson1987]

Jill looks washed out as a blonde. 

[BitterApple]

9 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I agree that color is wrong for Jill.  The problem is that kind of color requires makeup and Jill is not a makeup person.  Sure she lines her eyes, applies a coat or two of mascara, and uses some kind of foundation, but those are not enough.  She needs to wear a full face of makeup to make it work.  She needs blush and lipstick.  

I agree. I think if Jill kept her sandy base color and did a honey blonde balayage, she would look gorgeous. The all-over blonde makes her features disappear. I think Jill would look great as a redhead as well, but I know reds are an absolute bitch to maintain. 

Edited April 6, 2022 by BitterApple

[Cinnabon]

10 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I agree that color is wrong for Jill.  The problem is that kind of color requires makeup and Jill is not a makeup person.  Sure she lines her eyes, applies a coat or two of mascara, and uses some kind of foundation, but those are not enough.  She needs to wear a full face of makeup to make it work.  She needs blush and lipstick.  

Any advice for me? I was a brunette but my hair started turning grey by my early 20s. I’ve always dyed it but stopped during the pandemic. So now I’ve got a full head of white hair. I’m very fair but have mild rosacea so my face gets red easily. So white hair and fair/pink skin!  So I’m much like Jill. I haven’t been wearing makeup for the last 2 years either. I’m not sure I want to go back to getting it dyed every 4 weeks, it’s a lot of work and expensive. But how can I make it work? I’m also considering buying some wigs, lol.

sorry, this is all about me, not Jill. Can you respond in Small Talk?

Edited April 7, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Minivanessa]

Oops, NM. I'm taking my reply to Small Talk.

Edited April 7, 2022 by Jeeves

[libgirl2]

On 4/5/2022 at 6:18 PM, BigBingerBro said:

Good for her for making a change but I think it washes her out

She looks better with a darker color with some red. As long as she is happy that is what counts. 

When I was pregnant, I did not color my hair because they said it was dangerous. But they do say now it is safe. 

[emmawoodhouse]

Israel is 7! 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcEPFpssAQh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[BitterApple]

It's sweet that James came over to celebrate Israel's birthday, but what about Jenni? Does Boob forbid her from going over there? It's also nice Izzy had a special lunch at school. 

My birthday was in July so I never got to have my mom come to class with cupcakes and punch. I'm 43 and still bitter. 

[GeeGolly]

Jill does know they posted pictures of Izzy twice within the last month, right?!? Are black bar over his face, really.

   

[BitterApple]

It looks like the flap on the box lid.

[coconspirator]

31 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Jill does know they posted pictures of Izzy twice within the last month, right?!? Are black bar over his face, really.

   

While I do think she is posting fewer pictures of their faces, I think that “black bar” is actually the color of the box lid/side. She might have had him obscure his face for the photo but I don’t think she edited a black bar over him.

[sagittarius sue]

1 hour ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Israel is 7! 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcEPFpssAQh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

It's nice to see a photo of Fenna, and she is inside the house.

Edited April 8, 2022 by sagittarius sue

[Lady Whistleup]

Fenna is so cute. I love her.

[Zella]

3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

My birthday was in July so I never got to have my mom come to class with cupcakes and punch. I'm 43 and still bitter. 

Come sit with me and my brother. Between my early August birthday and his early January birthday, neither of us ever got to do those elementary school birthdays and we are still salty about it in our thirties. LOL 

[Madtown]

I love that she got to bring Taco Bell to school for his birthday lunch. Love that he was so excited to get his own basketball and that they were at some type of arcade. The picture of him driving the go kart by himself is priceless to me. The basketball themed cookie(?) is awesome.

I can disagree with their beliefs and some of the things they say, but seeing Izzy(and Sam)having a somewhat "normal" life gives me some hope for their future.

I think of poor Sprugeon sitting at a desk in a corner with a giant plant next to him, doing "school" or opening one Amazon box a day for the week of his birthday, with his siblings in his face trying to grab them. Getting old ice cream because Jessa doesn't like cake. Singing Jesus songs 24/7 and listening to Ben dribble out scriptures that no 7 year old would even begin to understand, just makes me sad.

I'm not saying that Jill and Derick don't play Jesus music or read from the Bible, but I doubt it's as intense as it is in the Seewald home.

[laurakaye]

15 hours ago, coconspirator said:

While I do think she is posting fewer pictures of their faces, I think that “black bar” is actually the color of the box lid/side. She might have had him obscure his face for the photo but I don’t think she edited a black bar over him.

I am torn on this whole face-obscuring thing that Jeremy is so gosh-darn creative with, and that Jill has now started doing with her kids.  On one hand, I suppose these people think they need to post on social media to stay relevant or become low-level influencers for cash, or whatever reasons they have, so they feel like they have to put their kids on SM too.  But given the fact that the kids have no say in how they are posted or portrayed, and also the fact that they all now have a scummy POS family member in jail for crimes against children, wouldn't it help them all sleep at night to just keep their kids off SM altogether?  If it comes down to doing everything in my power to keep my kids safe as opposed to the sum of money I may or may not make by putting them on SM, I would choose my kids every single time and get a job flipping burgers if I needed cash.  What potential influencer gig is worth risking the safety of your kids?

And the fact that the grown Duggar kids have been raised to be in the public eye seems like it would make them double down on NOT putting their own kids through the same thing.  I never liked the whole back of the head photos, etc., because they aren't doing their children any favors, even if they think they are...they're just making their more rabid "fans" want to see those faces even more.  Leave them off altogether, IMO.

/soapbox

[Zella]

36 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

I am torn on this whole face-obscuring thing that Jeremy is so gosh-darn creative with, and that Jill has now started doing with her kids.  On one hand, I suppose these people think they need to post on social media to stay relevant or become low-level influencers for cash, or whatever reasons they have, so they feel like they have to put their kids on SM too.  But given the fact that the kids have no say in how they are posted or portrayed, and also the fact that they all now have a scummy POS family member in jail for crimes against children, wouldn't it help them all sleep at night to just keep their kids off SM altogether?  If it comes down to doing everything in my power to keep my kids safe as opposed to the sum of money I may or may not make by putting them on SM, I would choose my kids every single time and get a job flipping burgers if I needed cash.  What potential influencer gig is worth risking the safety of your kids?

And the fact that the grown Duggar kids have been raised to be in the public eye seems like it would make them double down on NOT putting their own kids through the same thing.  I never liked the whole back of the head photos, etc., because they aren't doing their children any favors, even if they think they are...they're just making their more rabid "fans" want to see those faces even more.  Leave them off altogether, IMO.

/soapbox

Agree 100%. To me, it's just a really performative way to "address" the issue while still violating the child's privacy. 

[lascuba]

31 minutes ago, Zella said:

Agree 100%. To me, it's just a really performative way to "address" the issue while still violating the child's privacy. 

Exactly. The whole thing feels like a stylistic choice rather than a thoughtful concern for privacy and safety. All it would take is one really popular influencer to write a thinkpiece of a caption about the " benefits" of showing children's faces on social media for the tide to turn and then the black bars and back of the head pics are history.

 

[BitterApple]

This is crazy we're talking about privacy because a video was in my YouTube feed this morning called "The Dangers Of Family Vlogging." One YouTuber actually had a fan show up at her kids' school, claiming she was a friend of the family and demanding to pick them up. It just made me think of the Duggars and Bateses and how lax they are on security. Their addresses, routines and travel plans are put out there for millions of strangers to see. It's nuts. 

Oh, and another interesting tidbit. The videos that generate the most views aside from births are ones where the thumbnail and title show a child sick, injured or in pain. Nice. 😳

[lascuba]

Just now, BitterApple said:

This is crazy we're talking about privacy because a video was in my YouTube feed this morning called "The Dangers Of Family Vlogging." One YouTuber actually had a fan show up at her kids' school, claiming she was a friend of the family and demanding to pick them up. It just made me think of the Duggars and Bateses and how lax they are on security. Their addresses, routines and travel plans are put out there for millions of strangers to see. It's nuts. 

Oh, and another interesting tidbit. The videos that generate the most views aside from births are ones where the thumbnail and title show a child sick, injured or in pain. Nice. 😳

At least once, a fan showed up at TTH when Michelle and JB were out, and the kids were all too "polite" to do anything but let her in and let her hang out until their parents showed up and had her leave.

And a teen fan showed up at Jill and Derick's house hoping to find out if Israel had been born yet.

And yet, it wasn't until the show was canceled and several influencers starting hiding their kids' faces that they started doing it, too.

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

...they're just making their more rabid "fans" want to see those faces even more.  Leave them off altogether, IMO.

This is so true. Not that the Dillards and Vuolos are well known but these kinds of photos encourage the crazies to try and grab face shots to try to sell to the tabloids.

But I'm not sure Jill gets the privacy thing though - she literally posted pictures of her kids on a blog and on IG within the last month.

[ginger90]

 

Video:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGelmoNxwD/

[GeeGolly]

4 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGelmoNxwD/

No job for Derick yet?

[Cinnabon]

5 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I am torn on this whole face-obscuring thing that Jeremy is so gosh-darn creative with, and that Jill has now started doing with her kids.  On one hand, I suppose these people think they need to post on social media to stay relevant or become low-level influencers for cash, or whatever reasons they have, so they feel like they have to put their kids on SM too.  But given the fact that the kids have no say in how they are posted or portrayed, and also the fact that they all now have a scummy POS family member in jail for crimes against children, wouldn't it help them all sleep at night to just keep their kids off SM altogether?  If it comes down to doing everything in my power to keep my kids safe as opposed to the sum of money I may or may not make by putting them on SM, I would choose my kids every single time and get a job flipping burgers if I needed cash.  What potential influencer gig is worth risking the safety of your kids?

And the fact that the grown Duggar kids have been raised to be in the public eye seems like it would make them double down on NOT putting their own kids through the same thing.  I never liked the whole back of the head photos, etc., because they aren't doing their children any favors, even if they think they are...they're just making their more rabid "fans" want to see those faces even more.  Leave them off altogether, IMO.

/soapbox

Exactly.

4 hours ago, Zella said:

Agree 100%. To me, it's just a really performative way to "address" the issue while still violating the child's privacy. 

Yep. Anyone following them on SM (since they insist on having accounts open to any and every stranger out there) could hone in on them and their small kids, whether their faces are shown or not. They also make it easy for any rando to figure out where they live, shop, and hang out.