Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Skittl1321]

On 8/21/2019 at 8:16 PM, mythoughtis said:

So Derick slept in her room at the hospital every night  she was there after both C-sections? Seriously?  Most fathers want to go home and get a decent night sleep before the baby comes home. 

I do not believe the Duggars or, any parent of two children under 5 when they try to tell me they are having sex 5-6 times a week.  Children are exhausting and most people sleep  instead. 

My husband slept in my hospital room every night after both of my C-sections. A neighbor kept our toddler for my 2nd.  The hospital has a double bed specifically for this purpose, so the partner can stay with the Mom.  It was hugely helpful because I couldn't get the baby out of the bassinet without help at night. I needed him there. Especially the first where I had general anesthesia and couldn't even sit up on my own for a day because my recovery was so much more difficult.  I would have been furious if he went home and left me with a newborn when I was recovering from surgery.

Your second point- hell yes.  Honestly, I'm not sure I believe anyone is having sex 5-6 times a week, children or not.  

[dariafan]

1 hour ago, rue721 said:

Is a “marriage video”...porn?

It’s a step up from filmstrips 

[Jynnan tonnix]

1 minute ago, dariafan said:

It’s a step up from filmstrips 

Haha...made me think of my dad, for whom English was a second language. He always had a tendency to transpose certain words, and this was one he had trouble with, almost invariably managing to call them "strip films". 

This was especially embarrassing/entertaining during all the years he volunteered to teach CCD classes at our Catholic church, where film strips on various subjects always seemed to be in heavy use.

But, yeah, Dreck and Jill's references to Marriage Videos did take my mind to porn first. Not sure whether that says more about me than them, though 🙂

[Fig Newton]

Just curious, does anybody on this page want to see a pic of me about to do laundry?

(I mean, laudry).

If you do, I would be happy to take a pic of me near my washing machine. I am sure I could get a lot of likes. 

#DoinLaudry/#MightDoLaudry/#ShouldDoLaudry/#NotDoinLaudryItsAlmostDateNight

#SexyTimeWithDerprickMyMaster

#DoinBestHubbyEVA/ #lotionTime /#ForgetLaudry/ #NeedToFindPostItNotes

[Suzn]

39 minutes ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Haha...made me think of my dad, for whom English was a second language. He always had a tendency to transpose certain words, and this was one he had trouble with, almost invariably managing to call them "strip films". 

This was especially embarrassing/entertaining during all the years he volunteered to teach CCD classes at our Catholic church, where film strips on various subjects always seemed to be in heavy use.

But, yeah, Dreck and Jill's references to Marriage Videos did take my mind to porn first. Not sure whether that says more about me than them, though 🙂

I'd think better of them if I thought they were watching porn, but I'm pretty sure the Marriage Videos are deadly dull lectures.  But really, what are they?  I can't imagine they are entertaining or sexually exciting...maybe they are porn...

33 minutes ago, Fig Newton said:

Just curious, does anybody on this page want to see a pic of me about to do laundry?

(I mean, laudry).

If you do, I would be happy to take a pic of me near my washing machine. I am sure I could get a lot of likes. 

#DoinLaudry/#MightDoLaudry/#ShouldDoLaudry/#NotDoinLaudryItsAlmostDateNight

#SexyTimeWithDerprickMyMaster

#DoinBestHubbyEVA/ #lotionTime /#ForgetLaudry/ #NeedToFindPostItNotes

I'd rather see you than Jillbilly (credit to someone else for that name).

Edited August 23, 2019 by Suzn

[galaxychaser]

13 hours ago, Fallacy said:

Why is he still so skinny!? I know it’s stupid, but the number one reason he grosses me out so much is his rail thin frame. He also constantly has deep bags under his eyes and just the general appearance of a half starved man and it bugs me far more than it should. 

I don’t care about their sex lives at all, and I didn’t think all of their marriage tips were that bad (though some were, particularly the ones that indicate a total lack of a trust in a marriage). 

He’s a homophobic jerk with ridiculous “conservative values” (his words, not mine), so I’m not going to like him regardless, but he’s just too damn thin. 

I said it before. D looks like an insect.

[ginger90]

[galaxychaser]

I’m watching chopped and there is a chef that looks like Derek.

[cdp73]

9 hours ago, Zella said:

What in the everloving fuck is a time clock, Jill, and how is it different from a regular clock that tells time? 

Maybe she's referring to the wash cycle timer?  The kids are asleep, Derick's with Becky in the third row...all she has right now is an off-balance washer?  

[Suzn]

1 hour ago, galaxychaser said:

I said it before. D looks like an insect.

Yeah, a praying mantis.

Seriously, I can barely look at him.  There's something bad that comes through his eyes.

[Jynnan tonnix]

2 hours ago, Fig Newton said:

Just curious, does anybody on this page want to see a pic of me about to do laundry?

(I mean, laudry).

If you do, I would be happy to take a pic of me near my washing machine. I am sure I could get a lot of likes. 

#DoinLaudry/#MightDoLaudry/#ShouldDoLaudry/#NotDoinLaudryItsAlmostDateNight

#SexyTimeWithDerprickMyMaster

#DoinBestHubbyEVA/ #lotionTime /#ForgetLaudry/ #NeedToFindPostItNotes

I love it! And sneaking "Derprick" in there was...well, I started typing "icing on the cake", but that kinda turned my stomach, so I'll settle for genius 🙂 I don't think we've heard that nickname before, have we?

[Steff]

3 hours ago, Fig Newton said:

Just curious, does anybody on this page want to see a pic of me about to do laundry?

(I mean, laudry).

If you do, I would be happy to take a pic of me near my washing machine. I am sure I could get a lot of likes. 

#DoinLaudry/#MightDoLaudry/#ShouldDoLaudry/#NotDoinLaudryItsAlmostDateNight

#SexyTimeWithDerprickMyMaster

#DoinBestHubbyEVA/ #lotionTime /#ForgetLaudry/ #NeedToFindPostItNotes

If you share your fixing to do laundry post, then I'll share my fixing to mop the laundry room post.   My mop is in the sink & the bottle of Mr Clean is right next to it posing for it's moment in the instagram sun.

#fixingtomop #gottamoptoday #laundryroommopjob #catmissedthecatboxgottamopupcatpiss #makehubbyhappymopthelaundryroomtoday #boycatmom #girlcatmom #badcatmom

Ok now I  need brain bleach, because the scene from the Kids Are Alright with the mom "enjoying" the spin cycle of the washing machine popped into my head. 

Is Jillbilly having foreplay with the washer? 

[Trillium]

22 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Somebody needs to ask if they really believe that they would lose control, overcome with lust and not be able to stop themselves from having sex if alone with someone of the opposite sex.  And you're that sex-crazed how are you safe with someone of the same sex or how can you keep your hands off yourself when alone?

So many questions, so little sense.

And ask if they see that the cable guy as across the street if they think the cable guy is having sex with their neighbor. Because it’s the “appearance of evil” 

[GeeGolly]

I've been alone with my husband for a few hours today and I haven't even thought of boinking him.

But I guess it's okay, cuz if the neighbors think I'm jumping his bones, he is my husband.

[lookeyloo]

Maybe it’s not just they think someone can’t control themselves but that they could be accused of something that didn’t happen for various and sundry reasons. Which is why teachers and such leave doors open. Not that they are going to do anything but it would be easy for the other person to say they did.  Maybe not Duggar’s but in other cases

[Normades]

13 hours ago, Zella said:

What in the everloving fuck is a time clock, Jill, and how is it different from a regular clock that tells time? 

A time clock is something people who have a job might use, however job is a four letter word to these drips, so it's safe to assume Jill is just an idiot.

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, Suzn said:

Somebody needs to ask if they really believe that they would lose control, overcome with lust and not be able to stop themselves from having sex if alone with someone of the opposite sex.  And you're that sex-crazed how are you safe with someone of the same sex or how can you keep your hands off yourself when alone?

So many questions, so little sense.

for good bible loving christians they certainly missed the "fruit of the spirit", love, joy, peace, faithfulness SELF-CONTROL, patience, kindness, gentleness, generosity.

none of these are duggar qualities

Edited August 23, 2019 by crazy8s
added gentleness

[JoanArc]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

. I would need an afternoon nap, everyday, if I were to make sure I was following all these bullshit beliefs and rules.

 But, isn’t that the point? You’ll be so exhausted you won’t  question trying to follow every one of the 54 character qualities or all of the other stupid dumb ass rules. It creates chronic stress,  and is no way to live for anyone, except for the people of the top that get to control everything.

I’m surprised nobody noticed the lines Derreck put in about masturbation.  I think it explode, And not in a good way, if he walked in on Jill With a vibrator, while she was busy finding out that it was a better lover than he was. 

Edited August 23, 2019 by JoanArc

[BetyBee]

It's all about appearances.  Like how Jill's parents wanted to APPEAR to be a wholesome, devoutly Christian family on TV, while covering up that Josh had molested 4 of his sisters and a family friend.  The important thing is to look holier than thou, not to actually behave in an honorable way.

[Ohiopirate02]

29 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

 But, isn’t that the point? You’ll be so exhausted you won’t  question trying to follow every one of the 54 character qualities or all of the other stupid dumb ass rules. It creates chronic stress,  and is no way to live for anyone, except for the people of the top that get to control everything.

I’m surprised nobody noticed the lines Derreck put in about masturbation.  I think it explode, And not in a good way, if he walked in on Jill With a vibrator, while she was busy finding out that it was a better lover than he was. 

To me the real question is how many orgasms is Jill having per week?  They cannot be having quality encounters where both parties are equally satisfied that many days per week with 2 young children and Derick in law school. 

[CalicoKitty]

Didn't TFDW and Pris go on a cruise, and instead of the entertainment on board, they watched marriage videos in their cabin?  I couldn't figure out why they would bring their own videos on a cruise.  Maybe Jill has a whole lending library of marriage videos.

[EmeraldGirl]

Swear to god, I thought Jill was going to say that Israel said his carrot was a penis. 

[galaxychaser]

So no more blessings until Dereck finishes law school. 

Snort and laugh. I don’t think he will finish and pass the bar.

[WalrusGirl]

On 8/21/2019 at 3:28 PM, Lunera said:

 Their relationship is just sad. I believe they are on birth control, which makes them huge liars because they said they would leave the number of children up to god.

Of the things that bother me, their changing their stance on family planning after having known one another for more than a year, had private conversations, and had two disastrous births isn’t one of them. Clearly, back when they said that, they weren’t (about to use) birth control, since they had a honeymoon baby. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Changing their position (ew, no pun intended 🤢) a year or more later doesn’t make them liars in my book.

(Again, on this specific issue!)

[Absolom]

How many people actually keep 100% every vow made at their wedding?  I'd have to say real people mess up or change their goals all the time.  It was said Josh would never cheat because he'd made vows before God, yet how many people make those same vows and also cheat?  I don't think the Duggars are going to achieve any higher standard of keeping or believing their vows than the average population.  In fact they may be lower since it appears that they don't always have fully free will in what they say especially in front of the cameras.

[GeeGolly]

I don't think anyone has a problem with the Duggars changing their minds. Or even think that everytime they change their minds they owe anyone an explanation.

But they have emphasized having as many children as God provides. Emphasized it to the point that they presented it as the only way, the right way, to look at family planning. So if they repeatedly put a belief or message out there, it makes sense they would offer at least a brief explanation if they had a change in heart.

Personally, after watching that live video of Jill making soup and Derick answering questions about having children, I'm not sure they're using birth control.

Google says there's a 15% - 25% chance of getting pregnant each month, with an increase if sex is timed correctly.

If they're leaving it up to chance, or God and not timing sex, then they're decreasing their odds.

[dariafan]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't think anyone has a problem with the Duggars changing their minds. Or even think that everytime they change their minds they owe anyone an explanation.

But they have emphasized having as many children as God provides. Emphasized it to the point that they presented it as the only way, the right way, to look at family planning. So if they repeatedly put a belief or message out there, it makes sense they would offer at least a brief explanation if they had a change in heart.

Personally, after watching that live video of Jill making soup and Derick answering questions about having children, I'm not sure they're using birth control.

Google says there's a 15% - 25% chance of getting pregnant each month, with an increase if sex is timed correctly.

If they're leaving it up to chance, or God and not timing sex, then they're decreasing their odds.

Or god has decided to stop messing with us

[floridamom]

A younger Jill once explained in a TH on 19KaC that never being alone with someone of the opposite sex protects the female (unmarried OR married) from wagging tongues. Anyone could accuse that person of inappropriate behavior because the opportunity was there. If they were never alone, the 3rd person could step up and say 'No, I was with them. This never happened". Does anyone remember that? I do. I have to say, I found it to be nasty, hateful and gossipy. I thought spreading rumors, gossip and simple untruths around was ungodly and evil. Something these people claim to be miles away from. Complete distrust among them. Worse than the Puritan witch hunts of the 1600s. 

[DXD526]

My heathen story - I had a new mattress delivered this week. The two hot, young delivery guys sexily set up my new bedding, then lustily handed me a bill. And somehow through the whole process, everyone's clothes stayed on!! With no chaperones around!! Imagine that!

If all that people like JillyMuffin and Deertick can talk and think about is sex, that's on them. It's really arrogant for them to assume that everyone is like they are. 

[xwordfanatik]

5 minutes ago, DXD526 said:

My heathen story - I had a new mattress delivered this week. The two hot, young delivery guys sexily set up my new bedding, then lustily handed me a bill. And somehow through the whole process, everyone's clothes stayed on!! With no chaperones around!! Imagine that!

If all that people like JillyMuffin and Deertick can talk and think about is sex, that's on them. It's really arrogant for them to assume that everyone is like they are. 

No kidding.  I had my kitchen remodeled last year, and the contractor was seriously cute.  I didn't end up ripping off his clothes, and he didn't rip mine off, either.  Arrogant is right.

[Jynnan tonnix]

3 minutes ago, DXD526 said:

My heathen story - I had a new mattress delivered this week. The two hot, young delivery guys sexily set up my new bedding, then lustily handed me a bill. And somehow through the whole process, everyone's clothes stayed on!! With no chaperones around!! Imagine that!

If all that people like JillyMuffin and Deertick can talk and think about is sex, that's on them. It's really arrogant for them to assume that everyone is like they are. 

Well, unless you were wearing something which showed a bit of knee or collarbone, I suppose it's within the realm of possibility that they managed to control themselves. And you must have signed the paperwork with a lowered head, making sure not to make eye contact or smile, or otherwise indicate that you were anything but completely modest. 

On the other hand, if you were wearing something suitable for the summertime heat, and spoke to them more than was absolutely necessary to get the mattress set up, it may be a miracle of Biblical proportions that they were able to restrain themselves. Especially if they got any hint that you thought they were hot!

[Homily]

8 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't think anyone has a problem with the Duggars changing their minds. Or even think that everytime they change their minds they owe anyone an explanation.

But they have emphasized having as many children as God provides. Emphasized it to the point that they presented it as the only way, the right way, to look at family planning. So if they repeatedly put a belief or message out there, it makes sense they would offer at least a brief explanation if they had a change in heart.

For me I'd a applaud them for realizing that this kind of lifestyle is beyond dumb.  The problem I have is if they change their minds for themselves, personally, but still advocate it as the One Right Way for everyone else.  Like all the so-called right to lifers who oppose abortion until it's their teenage daughter who is pregnant.  Ugh.

[Minivanessa]

6 minutes ago, Homily said:

For me I'd a applaud them for realizing that this kind of lifestyle is beyond dumb.  The problem I have is if they change their minds for themselves, personally, but still advocate it as the One Right Way for everyone else.  Like all the so-called right to lifers who oppose abortion until it's their teenage daughter who is pregnant.  Ugh.

The adult Duggars are IMO, *all* dishonest manipulative jerks, who can't even be honest on their TV show or in media interviews, about their slavish devotion to the teachings of Bill Gothard or their continued involvement with IBLP. They will parrot the party line but stop short of full disclosure, and although by now it's no secret they are IBLP stalwarts, TLC lets them soft-pedal that association (actually hide it) on the show.

I realize the Dullards aren't on the show anymore, and Derick wasn't raised Gothard and I don't know if Jill still has anything to to with IBLP. Whether she does or not, she absorbed her life lessons growing up as the child of JB and Meech, who still probably think it's Satan's work that unmasked their coverup of Josh's molestations and caused 19K&C to be cancelled. Instead of, you know, some kind of inevitable consequence of their concealment of that in order to get the big TLC bucks and national fame as a devout and righteous Christian family. 

I think all the Duggars disclose on SM whatever they think makes them look holy and blessed, and nothing else. Who knows what any of them really think, or what they would do in a crisis despite their holier than thou public bullshit? They probably truly believe that they are special and blessed by God; they have lots of nice money thanks to TLC and nobody's having to scrimp and save to keep a roof over their head and food on the table. Therefore, it follows, that God loves them best and they're prevailing over Satan.

[farmgal4]

On 8/23/2019 at 11:41 AM, Suzn said:

Yeah, a praying mantis.

Seriously, I can barely look at him.  There's something bad that comes through his eyes.

I agree it’s the eyes, Suzn.  I see evil when look at them.

[madpsych78]

11 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

I agree it’s the eyes, Suzn.  I see evil when look at them.

Do you think this has always been the case since we've known him, or has this come out after, for example, Josh-gate. 

And what constitutes evil? Like what is different about Derick's eyes than, for example, Jeremy?

[farmgal4]

Just now, madpsych78 said:

Do you think this has always been the case since we've known him, or has this come out after, for example, Josh-gate. 

And what constitutes evil? Like what is different about Derick's eyes than, for example, Jeremy?

It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly what I mean, but when I look at D’s eyes I don’t see a good person inside.  I see someone who is mean and hateful (which is what partially defines “evil” IMO).  I think he pretends to be something that he’s not, and I wouldn’t want to be inside his head and know his thoughts for even a little while, because I think that they would scare me.  You know how you sometimes just get a gut feeling about a person, even if you don’t even know them?  The feeling I get about Derrick is that he’s not a good person, at all.  And yes, I’ve seen evil in those eyes since Day 1.

As for Jeremy, I’ve never gotten a bad vibe from him.  There’s a lot of arrogance there, yes, but I don’t think that he’s a mean or hateful person.

[madpsych78]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly what I mean, but when I look at D’s eyes I don’t see a good person inside.  I see someone who is mean and hateful (which is what partially defines “evil” IMO).  I think he pretends to be something that he’s not, and I wouldn’t want to be inside his head and know his thoughts for even a little while, because I think that they would scare me.  You know how you sometimes just get a gut feeling about a person, even if you don’t even know them?  The feeling I get about Derrick is that he’s not a good person, at all.  And yes, I’ve seen evil in those eyes since Day 1.

As for Jeremy, I’ve never gotten a bad vibe from him.  There’s a lot of arrogance there, yes, but I don’t think that he’s a mean or hateful person.

I think your assessment that Derick pretends to be something he's not is accurate. It's hard to tell what he really is, or how long he can keep up the façade. I think we saw that bit of that with his latest blog post about the husband's perspective, that essentially plagiarized Jill. And given that Derick has had more experience in post-secondary education than anyone else in this family (aside from Jeremy), he should know what plagiarism is. I think it's a safe bet that he didn't plagiarize any of his papers in accounting or law school or else he would have been caught and significantly penalized or possibly kicked out of the program. 

No, Derick did not give two fucks about expressing what he really thought so he just borrowed Jill's words to tow the party line perhaps. Whereas when Jill wrote the initial post, she may have borrowed some of what has been drilled to her by her parents and Gothard and so forth, but I also believe she earnestly believes what she wrote. And she is less likely to understand plagiarism since she has had no real post-secondary experience.

[Oldernowiser]

If Jill didn’t directly rip that off word for word from one of their fundie marriage manuals I’m an orangutan. No way “yay” put all those concepts together in her head, let alone in words.

So, yes, Derrick knows about plagiarism but clearly he doesn’t give a damn.

Twice.

[Christina87]

You know, the show could actually be interesting if all of the adults would express how their views have changed or stayed the same since marriage. Also, jana could join in, even though she's not married. She could express that she's seen firsthand that it's harder to raise babies as a couple, without a large amount of teenagers around, for instance. She could say that she has seen Derick and Jill's lifestyle change since they got off the show, and that not everyone is lucky enough to have a well off MIL. This is the show I would be interested in watching! Since they have all stayed Christian, you would thiiiiink JB and Michelle would be okay with it, if it got ratings, but sadly, JB is too much about control to do that. 

[Minivanessa]

18 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

You know, the show could actually be interesting if all of the adults would express how their views have changed or stayed the same since marriage. Also, jana could join in, even though she's not married. She could express that she's seen firsthand that it's harder to raise babies as a couple, without a large amount of teenagers around, for instance. She could say that she has seen Derick and Jill's lifestyle change since they got off the show, and that not everyone is lucky enough to have a well off MIL. This is the show I would be interested in watching! Since they have all stayed Christian, you would thiiiiink JB and Michelle would be okay with it, if it got ratings, but sadly, JB is too much about control to do that. 

That would be an unimaginable level of authenticity for any Duggar to display. And since Jill is off the show, they wouldn't talk about her anyway. 

It might be an unimaginable level of authenticity for any reality TV stah to display, come to think of it. IMO they are all professional celebrities, seeking fame and power and money by presenting their carefully crafted personae to the world. They are all there as entertainment, whether on TV or social media. Who was it who said, "Sincerity is very important. When you learn to fake that, you're guaranteed success"? Probably somebody in TV.

[JoanArc]

22 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

To me the real question is how many orgasms is Jill having per week?

Um, zero? Derick is her lover, after all.

[Ohiopirate02]

I think Jill did write her post about their marriage.   She subconsciously drew from the marriage videos and other books or articles she has consumed over the years.   I don't think she intentionally meant to plagiarize anyone in particular,  but it happened.  She doesn't know how to properly cite her sources or why it is needed.  The SORDRT strikes again. 

Derick OTOH, knows better.  He is probably too arrogant to believe that this post is important enough to do his due diligence.   To me, it's an ethical issue that he would try to pass off other people's ideas and work as his own.  He should treat every blog post like he would a paper he would hand in for a grade,  or a paid essay.  

[madpsych78]

1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I think Jill did write her post about their marriage.   She subconsciously drew from the marriage videos and other books or articles she has consumed over the years.   I don't think she intentionally meant to plagiarize anyone in particular,  but it happened.  She doesn't know how to properly cite her sources or why it is needed.  The SORDRT strikes again. 

Derick OTOH, knows better.  He is probably too arrogant to believe that this post is important enough to do his due diligence.   To me, it's an ethical issue that he would try to pass off other people's ideas and work as his own.  He should treat every blog post like he would a paper he would hand in for a grade,  or a paid essay.  

That's it! That's the point I was trying to make earlier. I don't believe Jill was intentionally trying to plagiarize, whereas Derick's was intentional.

[Suzn]

5 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly what I mean, but when I look at D’s eyes I don’t see a good person inside.  I see someone who is mean and hateful (which is what partially defines “evil” IMO).  I think he pretends to be something that he’s not, and I wouldn’t want to be inside his head and know his thoughts for even a little while, because I think that they would scare me.  You know how you sometimes just get a gut feeling about a person, even if you don’t even know them?  The feeling I get about Derrick is that he’s not a good person, at all.  And yes, I’ve seen evil in those eyes since Day 1.

As for Jeremy, I’ve never gotten a bad vibe from him.  There’s a lot of arrogance there, yes, but I don’t think that he’s a mean or hateful person.

That's exactly what I see too.  I don't see that in Jeremy - not to say that he is good, but evil is quite a different quality.  There is something in Derrick that makes me cringe.

[galaxychaser]

Derecks brother got crazy/evil eyes 😱🥶😰. 

Dereck just looks unwell/ill.

[mythoughtis]

19 hours ago, WalrusGirl said:

Of the things that bother me, their changing their stance on family planning after having known one another for more than a year, had private conversations, and had two disastrous births isn’t one of them. Clearly, back when they said that, they weren’t (about to use) birth control, since they had a honeymoon baby. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Changing their position (ew, no pun intended 🤢) a year or more later doesn’t make them liars in my book.

(Again, on this specific issue!)

Absolutely agree.  Plus - I think they were -Encouraged( shall we say) - to put those particular words in their vows by JB and Michelle. Remember they had to do group texting even after they were engaged. Remember JB did their pre-marital counseling.  Those two couldn’t have seriously discussed a thing because JB would have objected to anything he didn’t  agree with. It was Jessa who first got allowed private phone calls and I think Jinger got allowed private texts. Heck Joy and Austin got a group camp out.  

[Zella]

5 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly what I mean, but when I look at D’s eyes I don’t see a good person inside.  I see someone who is mean and hateful (which is what partially defines “evil” IMO).  I think he pretends to be something that he’s not, and I wouldn’t want to be inside his head and know his thoughts for even a little while, because I think that they would scare me.  You know how you sometimes just get a gut feeling about a person, even if you don’t even know them?  The feeling I get about Derrick is that he’s not a good person, at all.  And yes, I’ve seen evil in those eyes since Day 1.

As for Jeremy, I’ve never gotten a bad vibe from him.  There’s a lot of arrogance there, yes, but I don’t think that he’s a mean or hateful person.

Yes, there is something unsettling about Derick. And I'm not saying that as a comment about how unwell he looks, which I suspect might be residual from his botched oral surgery. I've always had the impression it is absolutely miserable in the Dillard house.

I think Jeremy's a horse's ass with beliefs I find hateful and distasteful, as I said earlier he's a BEC for me, but I don't get that same vibe at all about how unpleasant it must be to be in that house from him and Jinger. In fact, I suspect they get along fairly well.

I suspect it's no picnic to be under the roof with Lauren and Josiah, Josh and Anna, and quite likely Ben and Jessa. But even then, it's a very different vibe from what Derick puts off. 

[FizzyPuff]

20 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

Didn't TFDW and Pris go on a cruise, and instead of the entertainment on board, they watched marriage videos in their cabin?  I couldn't figure out why they would bring their own videos on a cruise.  Maybe Jill has a whole lending library of marriage videos.

The entertainment on board was probably a drag act 😉

8 hours ago, DXD526 said:

My heathen story - I had a new mattress delivered this week. The two hot, young delivery guys sexily set up my new bedding, then lustily handed me a bill. And somehow through the whole process, everyone's clothes stayed on!! With no chaperones around!! Imagine that!

If all that people like JillyMuffin and Deertick can talk and think about is sex, that's on them. It's really arrogant for them to assume that everyone is like they are. 

A guy came round the other day and fixed the boiler and shocking I know we were alone for ages, at no point did we rip each other’s clothes off and do it right there on the floor. Honestly I missed my chance. Plus he told me he liked cats too ( we were talking about my cat) damn it I could’ve had some fun if only I’d known. 

Jill & Derick are idiots if they can’t be alone with the opposite sex then they shouldn’t leave their house, they should just go live in a cave or something. 

Btw I don’t get an evil vibe about Derick he does look unwell to me but I don’t see evil. I don’t think he’s a nice person (sometimes) but I wouldn’t say he’s evil.

Edited August 24, 2019 by Puffin

[Zella]

Yeah @Puffin I wouldn't go so far as to say Derick looks evil because that's rather strong. But I just get the feeling he is deeply unpleasant to be around. 

[Sew Sumi]

Derelict is definitely a downer. I've seen zero sense of humor from the guy since day one. He got that attitude from his sour mother.