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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events


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To be fair, I'm not sure I trust the source of that story but from what I read, the little guy was found in Jinger's care.  I think they had a lot of eyes on their kids, maybe too many and someone thought it was okay to take command of him.  It was probably terrifying for Anna (and Josh was probably oblivious), but these things happen.  It's hard to stick together in a big group in a place like that.  

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On 10/10/2019 at 5:08 PM, Sew Sumi said:

To whomever asked, Anna is due in the latter part of November. She never gave a specific due date, but someone lined up the Duggar November babies, and Anna's is last. Lauren is apparently due 11/17, so some time after that.

That someone was Anna herself. She gave out the order of all the November babies and put herself last. 

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6 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

What exactly does Josh do for a living?  How does he support a soon be family of 8? 

Apparently he's working at the car lot but my best guess is that Ma and Pa are giving him an "allowance". He was lazy when he was initially working at the car lot. I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed. 

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13 hours ago, 65mickey said:

What exactly does Josh do for a living?  How does he support a soon be family of 8? 

Consider the lilies of the field. They toil not. Neither do they spin. Yet even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these....

Just call him "Lily." 

I'm sure we're just of too little faith to get it, that's all. 

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35 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

There's no way that working in a used car lot can support Josh, Anna and all of the kids if he is paid a salary commensurate to the job. He's highly subsidized by JB, no doubt.

JB has to pay him in case Josh decides to run off and finds another porn star or prostitute or any dumb woman to sleep with and destroy their family even more.

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5 hours ago, MargeGunderson said:

There's no way that working in a used car lot can support Josh, Anna and all of the kids if he is paid a salary commensurate to the job. He's highly subsidized by JB, no doubt.

I beg to differ. My father owned and operated a used car lot for over 40 years. I lived in an affluent community and we were better off than his brother's family and his brother was an engineer working for the state. Our car lot was well respected and we sold cars to the same families; the parents when they were young, then their driving kids, and then their kids. 

New car dealers often make more off their used car sales than they do selling new models. Selling cars is the same as any retail business, it just gets a bad rap.

It seemed when Josh got out of Sex Camp they were wholesaling cars. Wholesaling is less profitable, enough to support a family if you're working really hard, but not enough to live like Josh is.

If they've reopened a dealership, are selling respectable cars and doing right by their customers, Josh could be making some decent money.

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58 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I beg to differ. My father owned and operated a used car lot for over 40 years. I lived in an affluent community and we were better off than his brother's family and his brother was an engineer working for the state. Our car lot was well respected and we sold cars to the same families; the parents when they were young, then their driving kids, and then their kids. 

New car dealers often make more off their used car sales than they do selling new models. Selling cars is the same as any retail business, it just gets a bad rap.

It seemed when Josh got out of Sex Camp they were wholesaling cars. Wholesaling is less profitable, enough to support a family if you're working really hard, but not enough to live like Josh is.

If they've reopened a dealership, are selling respectable cars and doing right by their customers, Josh could be making some decent money.

Well, here it is, according to Josh's LInkedin below and some online reviewers -- https://www.championnwa.com/

Opinions are mixed -- The only mention of an employee is Josiah. 

Beth Pankratz     1 review -a month ago

We decided to purchase a new to us vehicle we wanted to purchase in the south because everything is very rusty in northern Minnesota. The staff took extra time and really went out of their way to service us. Honest car dealership is hard to come by! We really highly recommend Champion Motorcars!

Lewis Hall   10 reviews 4 months ago-

They buy wrecked cars and resell them. You're taking a gamble buying one. It might work out, idk, but it didn't work out well for us. We've had plenty of problems with the car we bought from Josiah. He fixed a few problems we had the same week we bought it, but the problems continued and he's not easy to get in contact with. I'd wouldn't suggest getting your car here.

THIS IS JOSH's LInkedin -- Joshua Duggar  -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-duggar-24ab0512/

He lists all three of his Arkansas "jobs" as current jobs. 

Owner & Manager

Champion Motorcars

Dates Employed Aug 2007 – Present

Employment Duration12 yrs 3 mos

President & Founder

Strategic Political Services

Dates Employed Apr 2006 – Present

Employment Duration13 yrs 7 mos

Executive Producer

Premiere Productions

Dates Employed Mar 2005 – Present

Employment Duration14 yrs 8 mos

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43 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

President & Founder
Strategic Political Services


Premiere Productions
Executive Producer
 

It sounds made up. I find it hard to believe that these businesses are actually doing anything.

It's certainly possible that somebody else cooked up and posted that LInkedin, not Josh. However, the "jobs" listed are the "jobs" he's had -- except for his DC job not being on the list...... For Education, it says "High School" (Not Duggar Academy.....and actually that makes it seem more likely to be authentic to me.....I'd think some hater who put up a fake Linkedin for him would be more likely to say he went to "Duggar Academy" just to make it look jerkier.

And the same thing for leaving out the DC job, for me. I think Josh is more likely than some troll to have omitted that job from his resume. But, again, who knows?)

According to Josh and his father, he started a "political consultancy" back when he was a mere kid. -- Strategic Political Services. 

He'd spent the couple years that JB was in the legislature on site with JB most of the time when JB was on the site of the legislature. (rumor has it that JB only showed up when there was an abortion-related bill on the agenda....but when he was there, apparently Josh was usually with him)  .... And he also "worked" on JB"s campaigns. and they both "worked" on some other people's campaigns ..... 

The idea that Josh as a teenager could possibly have been a "political consultant" was asinine -- despite the fact that he had spent a large amount of time around Arkansas fundie politicians ....  But then the idea that Jim Bob actually functioned as a legislator is, frankly, just as ridiculous....And yet he tried to run for the fucking U.S. Senate .... So they have odd and ridiculous standards. 

The fact that Josh had "started a political consultancy" as a young kid was one of the "credentials" that got cited when he got the DC job with the Family Research Council's political wing...... I assume that, in fact, he did have some little tasks he did with the various other right-wing fundie nutsos the Duggars know who have run for (and in some cases won) Arkansas political offices .....there's a little coterie of them that they've hung out with for years....and they do work for each other. 

The video thing was something they cooked up for him to get involved in -- guess after the molestation mess they were trying to have him employ himself with things he kind of liked so he could feel like it was a hobby or something.......Josh was long known as a person in the family who was the best or one of the best at stuff like video and graphics ..... Not that they've ever done much except amateur videography and such .....But they call everything they do some kind of genius business enterprise .... Just like they called Jana a concert pianist. 

Here, by the way, is the photo from the LInkedin. I don't know whether it makes me more likely to think the thing is real or think it's fake .... Whichever it is, though, the LInkedin is basically accurate about what Josh has been doing with his life. (i.e., nothing)

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Just now, JoanArc said:

The ring of truth!

I especially love that a Duggar is "not easy to get in contact with." SINCE NONE OF THEM EVER HAS ANY DAMN THING TO DO!!!

That doesn't sound shady at all. 

I'm betting that's one of the primary "business" lessons JB has taught his grifter gang sons. Never be easy to get in contact with. 

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Just now, Churchhoney said:

I especially love that a Duggar is "not easy to get in contact with." SINCE NONE OF THEM EVER HAS ANY DAMN THING TO DO!!!

That doesn't sound shady at all. 

I'm betting that's one of the primary "business" lessons JB has taught his grifter gang sons. Never be easy to get in contact with. 

Admittedly, wasn't he in the Bahamas, robbing the place a gunpoint? Then celebrated at Universal? Or did he stay home with Asa's mom? Hell, I'd be looking for ANY excuse to get away from her for an hour, EVEN HONEST WORK.

Churchy - just look at the big picture, no matter how many insta follower and tv views these people have, they are fundamentally unemployable and will fall apart in the real world. Qucikly.

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7 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Here, by the way, is the photo from the LInkedin. I don't know whether it makes me more likely to think the thing is real or think it's fake .... Whichever it is, though, the LInkedin is basically accurate about what Josh has been doing with his life. (i.e., nothing)

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He looks like a more punchable Ted Cruz. And that's saying something.

Sad that Anna looks a bit desperate even here. Your dad sold you out, sweetie. Wake up.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I hope that Josh made that LinkedIn account when he was younger and dumber. Who puts their freaking wedding photo as their profile pic? Maybe that explains the lack of his DC gig - because he made the account prior to the job.

Yeah, could be. Good point. 

I'm guessing that we see something of the Duggar ethos in putting your wedding picture up there, don't you think?

I mean -- jobs, schmobs -- who really cares? But baby factory?? YEAH!!!. God LOVES that! That's what both Josh and Anna have been brainwashed into ....from birth to the present, really. 

9 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Admittedly, wasn't he in the Bahamas, robbing the place a gunpoint? Then celebrated at Universal? Or did he stay home with Asa's mom? Hell, I'd be looking for ANY excuse to get away from her for an hour, EVEN HONEST WORK.

Churchy - just look at the big picture, no matter how many insta follower and tv views these people have, they are fundamentally unemployable and will fall apart in the real world. Qucikly.

I'm pretty sure Josiah's one of the ones who didn't go to the Bahamas. He probably wasn't allowed to leave Asa's mom! 

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