luvbadtv July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Jessa does have big feet. I'd never noticed that before. Her feet are oddly shaped and one has a weird knot on top of it. Link to comment
GEML July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Few of the Duggars have pretty hands or feet. Perhaps that's why they feet they could never defraud anyone. Link to comment
louannems July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 I think that "knot" on Jessa's foot is a sandal suntan mark. My daughter and I are both size 9 foot. So I didn't think Jessa's were too big! On Shopping For Shoes, Michelle stated that all the big girls wore each other's shoes so they must all have big feet. 1 Link to comment
zenme July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Okay, Jessa. Put that shirt away now. I don't think it will make it another week. It's too tight. 5 Link to comment
Ilovemylabs July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Her smile looks so forced. It's amazing how opinions vary on this picture. To me Anna looks great. It doesn't seem to me that her smile is forced at all and her eyes are happy. Jessa looks OK too. I'm over the 'hold the belly' pictures. 5 Link to comment
BradandJanet July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 I assumed baby Izzy got his long feet from Derrick. Looking at Jessa makes me think it's a Duggar trait. Just Michelle's helium voice, buggy eyes, and JB's swollen head aren't genetic. Link to comment
Oldernowiser July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 I'm so over bump pictures except for immediate family. Whoop-de-do, you had sex and got pregnant. Film at eleven. In their family especially...it's the equivalent of hey, look, we ate lunch. Again. 20 Link to comment
MissT July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 All I see in that picture is a dirty floor. There is a crayon or something laying on the floor at the step and then there is an empty box under the sofa in the back and the hardwood steps are dusty. Also the carpet on the steps is frayed. I can't imagine what the rest of the house looks like. I do think both girls look healthy. 1 Link to comment
Cherrio July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 All I see in that picture is a dirty floor. There is a crayon or something laying on the floor at the step and then there is an empty box under the sofa in the back and the hardwood steps are dusty. Also the carpet on the steps is frayed. I can't imagine what the rest of the house looks like. I do think both girls look healthy. I noticed all that stuff too. I also noticed that the french doors in the photo are covered over with paper and there are boxes and other things blocking them. I have no idea where those doors lead, but I wonder if that is where Josh and Anna are living ? 2 Link to comment
dillpickles July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Jessa looks older than Anna in this picture. Oh blessa... 1 Link to comment
louannems July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 All I see in that picture is a dirty floor. There is a crayon or something laying on the floor at the step and then there is an empty box under the sofa in the back and the hardwood steps are dusty. Also the carpet on the steps is frayed. I can't imagine what the rest of the house looks like. I do think both girls look healthy. Jessa's standing barefoot in the exact spot where Josie Pooped Her Pants. That's what came to my mind first. 6 Link to comment
OhioMom July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Her smile looks so forced. Yes, it does. And I'm not good at picking up on things like that, so it's gotta be bad for me to see it! Okay, Jessa. Put that shirt away now. I don't think it will make it another week. It's too tight. But those tight shirts accentuate the pregnancy! :-/ Link to comment
Skittl1321 July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Jessa's standing barefoot in the exact spot where Josie Pooped Her Pants. That's what came to my mind first. With the number of kids in that house, I can't imagine there is a single spot on that floor that hasn't been pooped, puked, or peed on. I doubt they clean often, but surely they've mopped since then. I thought Anna looked good in the photo. I'm not sure her smile is forced in a "please don't make me take this photo" picture, so much as she just has an awkward smile in posed photos. I think she always looks like that. 1 Link to comment
Ljohnson1987 July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 People must be desperate. We don't care about Anna and Jessa's baby bumps. We care that Smuggar forcibly touched his sisters, and a babysitter and his idiot parents covered it up. Also, why is Anna still with him? 17 Link to comment
Pixie Chicken July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 (edited) I don't know if we can gauge how Anna feels based on a picture. I'm as pregnant as she is, and despite my being told by total strangers that I'm "all belly" and look oh-so-cute, it's July, I'm hot, and there's still an extra 40 pounds on my frame and a bowling ball on my bladder. They mean well, but I'm feeling punchy. She might feel fine, and the grimace could be a bad picture, OR she's understandably uncomfortable. Either way, I wish for her a safe delivery and healthy child. My own OB is careful not to let babies go too far post-term;I hope she's getting equally good, legit prenatal care. It shouldn't be some kind of luxury, despite my feelings about her husband and in-laws. Edited July 13, 2015 by Pixie Chicken 11 Link to comment
Happyfatchick July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 @Pixie, was it you who identified being due the 10th? Are you past due as well then? In July? Oh girl, you have my sympathy. 5 Link to comment
FakeJoshDuggar July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 Either way, I wish for her a safe delivery and healthy child. My own OB is careful not to let babies go too far post-term;I hope she's getting equally good, legit prenatal care. It shouldn't be some kind of luxury, despite my feelings about her husband and in-laws. These are the same bunch of people who saw meconium with Israel and thought "meh, no big deal." 8 Link to comment
Pixie Chicken July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 These are the same bunch of people who saw meconium with Israel and thought "meh, no big deal." I know, and it makes me sad. I really hope she's seeing a doctor who has some sense, and not a lay person. HFC, I'm a few days behind Anna. Due tomorrow. 5 Link to comment
truthtalk2014 July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 These are the same bunch of people who saw meconium with Israel and thought "meh, no big deal." I hope Anna doesn't go much longer before popping out M4. There is no telling what type of care she is getting now that she is back in Duggarland. My first (over 20 years ago) was the size of Izzy and I was only a few days late. I took castor oil because so many relatives talked about how it was routinely used way back when. Yes, labor started and I went to the hospital. After a few hours, the doctor told me I had the meconium problem and recommend a c-section. I didn't argue for one moment. I was actually terrified of childbirth. I often wondered if the castor oil caused the situation. If I had the internet back then, I probably would have not taken it. I know people still do but it seems to be a bit of a concern and a debatable subject. Not condemning anyone that does. Don't want to see Anna in the same situation as Jill. I really hope she has a qualified person on board for this delivery because I agree that M4 does NOT want to enter Duggarland. Can anyone blame her? 4 Link to comment
FakeJoshDuggar July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv. However, I'm aware that several people have been told by their OBGYNs not to take castor oil to induce labor. If it makes you poop, it'll make your baby poop. 6 Link to comment
Defrauder July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 I read feet and those with long toes (Sometimes!)tend to be less honest than those with shorter toes. (Of course there can be exceptions and I have no degree to prove my point). Also, when the second toe is as long or longer than the big toe that person will be the boss in their family and tends to be dishonest. Looks like Jessa, in my feet reading opinion, will be the actual boss in her family and may do a little more than stretch the truth now and then. Besides that why do they have to hold their pregnant stomachs in every picture? They're not the only people who have ever gotten pregnant and we would all actually notice without it being held out for us. 3 Link to comment
Flowers July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Defrauder, I am the exact opposite of what you say about the 2nd-toe people, sorry! 1 Link to comment
anony mouse July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I heard the longer second toe means you have a higher chance of having twins. Link to comment
zenme July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I thought it meant you had a big ding dong. 8 Link to comment
drafan July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 The poses in that are pic are Pinterest Poses...they both also have Pinterest Hair. Anna has a Pinterest French pedicure . They have ruined knit maxi-skirts for me forever....hate. I think Jessa's skirt has a side-entry pocket with a huge-ass button on it. At first I thought it was a little North-South pocket with a condom hanging out. They do look sorta cute...but where are the Pinterest Chalkboards? ...with Jessa's saying how many minutes pregnant she is and Anna's saying "overdue". 4 Link to comment
Almost 3000 July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 The poses in that are pic are Pinterest Poses...they both also have Pinterest Hair. Anna has a Pinterest French pedicure . They have ruined knit maxi-skirts for me forever....hate. I think Jessa's skirt has a side-entry pocket with a huge-ass button on it. At first I thought it was a little North-South pocket with a condom hanging out. They do look sorta cute...but where are the Pinterest Chalkboards? ...with Jessa's saying how many minutes pregnant she is and Anna's saying "overdue". Jill took all the chalkboards with her... 11 Link to comment
Churchhoney July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 (edited) I think that "knot" on Jessa's foot is a sandal suntan mark. Or it could be one of the bones in the instep. I have "knots" at that spot on my feet, and it's just a pair of bones that protrude more than they do on some people, combined with having not much muscle or fat in that area. Edited July 14, 2015 by Churchhoney Link to comment
Bella July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 This is the Josh and Anna thread. It is not a thread about toes, or even Jessa's toes (which would go in the Benessa thread). Please stay on topic. Thanks! 3 Link to comment
Sew Sumi July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I noticed all that stuff too. I also noticed that the french doors in the photo are covered over with paper and there are boxes and other things blocking them. I have no idea where those doors lead, but I wonder if that is where Josh and Anna are living ? No, the guest house is a different building, but rumor has it that they're already staying at the new place. The French doors lead to the game room. I bet THAT place is truly a sty. 2 Link to comment
kokapetl July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 If the TV cameras don't come back, that old laser printer will never move from that pew to the garbage. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post SomePity1066 July 14, 2015 Popular Post Share July 14, 2015 (edited) I realize forgiveness is a Thing for the Duggars and their followers, but there's a difference on the societal repugnance scale between, say, robbing a bank and molesting one's underage sisters. I'm curious about the mental gymnastics involved in the "blessing" of a relationship between one's (allegedly beloved) daughter and someone who has committed acts that have rendered his immediate family outcasts for an indefinite period of time. One has to wonder what might have been a bridge too far for Pa Keller, or if there is one. There's a difference between someone that is committed to repentance and change and the fact we've never seen Josh Duggar sorry for anything in ten years of videotaped behavior (besides the fact he was eventually found out). Considering the fact his particular issue has a very high rate of re-offense, (and considering the fact that he evidently didn't get any kind of help or counseling from anyone that was licensed by the state or qualified to do so) I am wondering how many people would have no problem with that person not only marrying into their family, but having unsupervised access to "as many children as God sends". He's also allowed his entire family to take the heat while he hides. This is not a repentant person. (Both quotes are from Missy Vixen - thank you so much for your observations !) First, kudos to your phrase "social repugnance scale"- that really resonated with me when it comes to forgiveness and the occasional inability to do so. I've readily forgiven the young boy who, in his youth and immaturity, pushed my sister off her bike onto a rusty piece of metal. Tetanus shot, lots of blood, and 14 stitches. All's fair in love and play, so to speak, and we all got over it. I have not, however, forgiven the creepy, dispicable old fuck who molested her, long may he rot in his grave and enjoy standing in the lunch line with Hitler and Bundy. Hope you like your Tator Tots with a side of vengeance, you twisted son of a bitch. My heart is hard and black when it comes to you, and I'm perfectly comfortable with it. Second, I agree on the blatant lack of repentance on Josh's part. His showy, arrogant, grandstanding indicates anything BUT a repentant soul. He loves the limelight, revels in it, effectively shoving it in the faces of the very girls/women he defiled and violated. His job, his JOB, for the last few years was to call out, condemn, and shame people that he perceived, quite falsely, of course, to be doing EXACTLY what he did ! That man-child should have been wearing a hair shirt and sporting a shaved head to this very day. He did, after all, totally avoid answering any SECULAR punishment, no ? And I don't think rehabbing a Hobby Lobby for Gothard counts as punishment... Lastly, yes, you are correct - the rate of re-offense for his particular predilection is sky-high. I have both a Bachelor's and a Master's in Criminology, have studied recidivism rates for the better part of 25 years, so, without patting myself on the back (tap-tap) I know whereof I speak. Bank robbers don't ply their trade because they have a particular "bent" to it - they do so because they are stupid (but situationally capable), avaricious opportunists who occasionally get away with it. The act may be "thrilling" in the moment, but money is the object. With child molesters and rapists, predation and power are the thrill and the object. There's no "payoff" like a suave, European jewel thief would have in stealing the Crown Jewels. The payoff for a child molester is the action itself and getting away with it. He lords his secret over his victim, comfortable in having secured their silence, but exists in a state of constant fear of being revealed. So Josh was revealed, his sin was laid bare, the excuses flowed from JB and Michelle like a river, unlike the inexistent tears that should have been present, and now he hides - hides behind his apologist family, his woefully pregnant wife, and the pop-culture darlings, his sisters - the very girls and women he victimized. I do, and can, and have, had forgiveness in my heart - for wrongs done to me and to those close to me - I'm not a monster, after all. But with the clusterfuck that this sad, sad parade of dysfunction had uncovered, I'm not feeling very forgiving. I'm angry, skeptical, and cynical. But most of all, I'm sad and disheartened for the innocents of the family, the uninvolved, the unknowing, the too-young to understand where Uncle Josh is... Where are you, Josh ? Where ARE you ?!?! I think it's time you "placed it on your heart" to take your medicine and face the God that you so purport to love and obey. You owe that to your victims, who continue to smile in the face of their debasement, and even defend you. Give them, give anyone, a reason to forgive. And I'm truly sorry to take this thread to a dark place, but at least we're not talking about toes now, no ? Edited July 14, 2015 by SomePity1066 37 Link to comment
Happyfatchick July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 The payoff for a child molester is the action itself and in getting away with it. He lords his secret over his victim, comfortable in having secured their silence, but exists in a state of constant fear of being revealed. You have no idea how much I wish I could be there, watching you bitch-slapping Josh with this message. You must have been simmering this priceless jewel for awhile! I want you as a prosecutor in my county!!! I went back and re read the shortest sentence in there about 15 times... The payoff for a child molester is the action itself and in getting away with it. The payoff for a child molester is the action itself and in getting away with it. The payoff for a child molester is the action itself and in getting away with it. That is the saddest commentary in the history of EVER. 9 Link to comment
cmr2014 July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 (Both quotes are from Missy Vixen - thank you so much for your observations !) First, kudos to your phrase "social repugnance scale"- that really resonated with me when it comes to forgiveness and the occasional inability to do so. I've readily forgiven the young boy who, in his youth and immaturity, pushed my sister off her bike onto a rusty piece of metal. Tetanus shot, lots of blood, and 14 stitches. All's fair in love and play, so to speak, and we all got over it. I have not, however, forgiven the creepy, dispicable old fuck who molested her, long may he rot in his grave and enjoy standing in the lunch line with Hitler and Bundy. Hope you like your Tator Tots with a side of vengeance, you twisted son of a bitch. My heart is hard and black when it comes to you, and I'm perfectly comfortable with it. I think that this is a very important point. A lot of people have pointed out that in fundie-land a sin is a sin, and there is no gradation of "wrong," but in society as a whole there is. I'm no theologian, but it is my understanding that Christ counseled victims to forgive for the benefit of their own souls. If I forgive someone who has wronged me, that is something I do for myself, and it doesn't naturally follow that everyone else should forgive that person as well, simply because I have. If someone robs me, and I choose to forgive that person, then the burden of anger and bitterness is lifted off of me. It doesn't mean that my neighbors don't want the person arrested and put in jail -- of course they do. We prosecute people and send them to jail for the good of the community as a whole, and it has nothing to do with anyone's personal theology. I think that's the part that so many of the leg-humpers miss when they insist that the girls have forgiven Josh, so it's all water under the bridge. 20 Link to comment
GEML July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Right now there is a possible lawsuit pending against Josh. He'd be a fool to say ANYTHING. Even if he were truly repentant, that would be fodder for taking him for anything he has. That's the way the system works. His parents and sisters were foolish for doing interviews. Yes, I realize it looks worse because he doesn't ask for mercy and forgiveness, but if there is ANY chance someone will sue you, in today's world you repeat that you did NOTHING wrong. There simply isn't really another way to handle it in public. 7 Link to comment
anony mouse July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Right now there is a possible lawsuit pending against Josh. He'd be a fool to say ANYTHING. Even if he were truly repentant, that would be fodder for taking him for anything he has. That's the way the system works. His parents and sisters were foolish for doing interviews. Yes, I realize it looks worse because he doesn't ask for mercy and forgiveness, but if there is ANY chance someone will sue you, in today's world you repeat that you did NOTHING wrong. There simply isn't really another way to handle it in public. Yes, exactly. A client running to the media to apologize or justify is a lawyer's worst nightmare. 3 Link to comment
Churchhoney July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 (edited) Right now there is a possible lawsuit pending against Josh. He'd be a fool to say ANYTHING. Even if he were truly repentant, that would be fodder for taking him for anything he has. That's the way the system works. His parents and sisters were foolish for doing interviews. Yes, I realize it looks worse because he doesn't ask for mercy and forgiveness, but if there is ANY chance someone will sue you, in today's world you repeat that you did NOTHING wrong. There simply isn't really another way to handle it in public. This is an interesting point. I'm inclined to agree with it because, of course, it is the way the system works. But doesn't it really depend on what your highest value is? If your highest value is self-protection, which it certainly is for most of us animals-with-consciousness, then, yes, this is how you handle it.. But if your highest value truly is living the most godly and virtuous and spiritual life possible, then where should self protection -- and protection of your cash -- rank among the factors that shape your behavior? Shouldn't it rank well behind justice, honesty, true repentance, mercy and generosity toward others, willingness to shoulder the consequences of one's own actions and the desire to be the best example of the moral life that you can? It strikes me as sort of similar to civil disobedience, where your relationship to the law is quite different than it would be under ordinary circumstances. You willingly take the punishment for an illegal action because your aim is higher than the simple calculus of the law involved. Did Jesus go with the self-protection option before the legal authorities? Not that I would really expect Josh (or any Duggar) to take the highest road. But when the stated goal of someone's life is to bring a higher standard of morality to the world -- including into the civil laws of this world, and he's taken many concrete steps to do that when it comes to other people's behaviors, isn't it fair to ask whether it really is okay and fully understandable for him to then just operate in "the system" in the same old self-protective way, when it comes to his own actions? Isn't it possible that to truly heal and help those victims, some kind of serious and potentially publicly acknowledged reparations by the perpetrator actually would be required? And aren't you actually supposed to be "a fool for Christ" when it comes to your interactions with the world? I realize that this sounds terribly naive. But I do wonder whether we wouldn't be better off if even a few of us acted in accordance with the bigger picture this way. I know the Duggars' bigger picture is different -- Jesus has forgiven Josh, so the law is as nothing compared to that. But that really sounds like rationalization to me. And if Jesus really was your highest and constant example, would you rationalize this way? Edited July 14, 2015 by Churchhoney 11 Link to comment
Joe Jitsu913 July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 To expand on SomePity's post... Jim Bob and Michelle feel that Josh has been adequately punished by repenting in front of the Church elders and doing construction work. They don't care about "secular" punishment because they are Gothardites first, Christians second, and law abiding citizens third (in their own minds). They only cared about how their cult would perceive Josh's actions. It was far more important for them to address this with their cult rather than doing it the "secular" way by reporting it to police and getting the state to intervene. I think it had a lot to do with earning brownie points with the Cult. "See what good Christians we are! We handled this the Biblical way. The RIGHT way!" It says a lot about their priorties in life . Jim Bob and Michelle absolutely feel no regret for their actions. I hope they rot in hell. 7 Link to comment
Happyfatchick July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I don't think SomeP meant literally "where is Josh this very minute". My sideways brain thought she meant during the interviews, when he was allowing his victims and his parents to speak for him. To try and whitewash and minimize the actions as if he were a 5 year old little at this moment. The fact is, he's a GROWN man with grown up man responsibilities. And his MOMMY went public for him. Now, at this point, yes- Josh must be silent. The time for him to speak has passed. It never would have benefitted him to speak, we (the public) wouldn't have respected him one iota more and we'd still be ripping his words apart. And the victim who's apparently not so much "ok with it" almost certainly would gain traction if he spoke out. So, yeah. Silence is his best asset, however unfortunately. It's just that he has forever shown himself to be "La-aaa-am-Bert the sheepish lion" by letting his victims and his parents go public. 5 Link to comment
GEML July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I'm not sure Josh had any choice about his parents and sisters doing the interviews. I actually think Josh is fairly intelligent, and probably picked up a few savvy things living in DC. If anything, he asked them not to. But in their minds, he's brought nothing but disgrace upon them, why would they listen to him? And I care about victims and reconciliation, but not if it means the destruction of my own family, who also didn't do anything wrong. (And by his family I mean Anna and his children. Not the Duggars as a whole.) 2 Link to comment
Defrauder July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Defrauder, I am the exact opposite of what you say about the 2nd-toe people, sorry! Don't be sorry it's a very inexact science and more of a fun guessing game. Link to comment
Defrauder July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Jessa looks older than Anna in this picture. Oh blessa... She's also back to the darker hair. Wasn't in blonde in the closet pregnancy pic a few weeks ago? Link to comment
kokapetl July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I thought it meant you had a big ding dong. I thought it meant you were gay. Link to comment
anony mouse July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 I'm not sure Josh had any choice about his parents and sisters doing the interviews. I actually think Josh is fairly intelligent, and probably picked up a few savvy things living in DC. If anything, he asked them not to. But in their minds, he's brought nothing but disgrace upon them, why would they listen to him? And I care about victims and reconciliation, but not if it means the destruction of my own family, who also didn't do anything wrong. (And by his family I mean Anna and his children. Not the Duggars as a whole.) Or in Jim Bob's mind, he thinks he knows better. I really don't think Josh had any control over them. I certainly don't think he asked them to go try and do spin interviews. Josh did it all right when the news first broke. If they had retained that PR firm and kept JB and Michelle off the interview circuit, they'd be in a better position now, and not just from a civil suit perspective. 2 Link to comment
GEML July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Josh actually admitted to a great deal in his resignation, I thought. The language was vague, by there was no mistaking that he was taking responsibility for it, and he lost his really great job and lifestyle in DC over it. Maybe I'm just completely jaded, but that isn't, to me, exactly the lowest road. 2 Link to comment
Aja July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Is that the same one as the "I made a mistake and I'm real sorry about it and Jesus forgave me and the most important thing is that I stopped before it ruined my life"? 9 Link to comment
GEML July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 He also said he "acted inexcusably" and "hurt others including friends and family." He apologized publicly. If you've read the report as closely as we all have, he basically affirms it almost word for word. Yes, that includes the forgiveness stuff, but it's admitting he did it in the first place, too. (Again, given the world we live in, to me, that's not the low road. So he's not acting like a martyr, but we don't know that anyone has asked him to, honestly.). 5 Link to comment
Aja July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 Well, that's good. Honestly the only thing that I still clearly remember from Josh's statement is the whole "I stopped before I ruined my life" line, which was pretty much all I needed to see. But yes, at least somewhere in there is some awareness that he has hurt others. Though I hope the "hurt" he's referring to is the hurt he caused the molestation victims, and not the hurt he caused Jim Bob by getting the show pulled. 4 Link to comment
Churchhoney July 14, 2015 Share July 14, 2015 (edited) To expand on SomePity's post... Jim Bob and Michelle feel that Josh has been adequately punished by repenting in front of the Church elders and doing construction work. They don't care about "secular" punishment because they are Gothardites first, Christians second, and law abiding citizens third (in their own minds). They only cared about how their cult would perceive Josh's actions. It was far more important for them to address this with their cult rather than doing it the "secular" way by reporting it to police and getting the state to intervene. I think it had a lot to do with earning brownie points with the Cult. "See what good Christians we are! We handled this the Biblical way. The RIGHT way!" It says a lot about their priorties in life . Jim Bob and Michelle absolutely feel no regret for their actions. I hope they rot in hell. Yeah, I think it was that -- plus Jim Bob's concern for, first, his political career and later, when that was belly up, his -- and Josh's -- budding careers as teevee stars. Which to me makes it even more hellworthy. Edited July 14, 2015 by Churchhoney 2 Link to comment
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