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GeeGolly
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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

Spencer Hastings
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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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9 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Article from US Weekly with snippits of the book.  You have to flip through the photos to get the snippits.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/jinger-duggar-s-new-book-stepford-wife-comparisons-more-revelations/ss-AA16WwQT?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=543e3204519c45cfa4454cea30098d3f#image=1

Thank you, @Gemma Violetfor sharing this information!

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GeeGolly

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I don't know if Jinger goes into detail about this in the book, but she says in an interview she and Jeremy talked about birth control prior to marriage. It makes sense to me now as they likely used some method on their wedding night. But it also makes me wonder what else they talked about.

Maybe I got it all wrong, but perhaps Jinger didn't marry Jeremy and blindly follow him lockstep. Perhaps Jinger made her first leap away from her parents beliefs (and her own) by choosing to marry Jeremy and intentionally opening the path to "freedom".

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I don’t know how to link to Tik Tok, sorry. A snippet of Jinger’s interview with GMA popped up. Ju Ju asks Jinger if she’s planning to have 19 kids. Jinger says they are happy with their two girls. She said they may go for a third child.

Ju Ju says it sounds like birth control. Jinger says she and Jeremy discussed the subject while courting and she wanted a Bible based reason to be against birth control. She obviously didn’t find one.

Jinger was quoted accurately. Just because kids are a blessing doesn’t mean you should have as many as possible. I’m really curious as to how that is going over with JB and Michelle. That’s as in your face as it gets.

It seems she is at peace with her decision. Good for her for resisting the pressure to breed irresponsibly. 

Since Jinger and Jeremy discussed birth control while dating it seems the strict chaperone act was just that, an act. There’s no way they discussed birth control on the family chat. Good for them for behaving like the adults they were.

Now we have Jill and Jinger asserting they won’t be brood mares for Jesus. It would be nice if more siblings joined them. 
 

ETA: Looks like @GeeGolly and I were posting at the same time. 

 

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GeeGolly

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Pure speculation...

I'm thinking in the book Jinger speaks fondly of her childhood growing up and makes it clear she wasn't consumed by anxiety on a daily basis. What I've read and heard so far makes me think Ben's spin on his beliefs gave Jinger the opportunity to connect some dots and got her thinking she wanted changes, but it wasn't until after she was out of the house she fully connected all the dots and clearly saw the damage caused by the way she was raised.

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merylinkid

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3 hours ago, SMama said:

I’m really curious as to how that is going over with JB and Michelle.

JB and Meech only had 19 kids because they are still mentally horny teenagers who like the fact they are allowed all the sex they want.   Also Meech got lots of attention from being pregnant.   It was never about the "blessings."  Michelle even said she had to pray to have a heart for children.  She didn't WANT that many kids she just wanted the ATTENTION from having that many kids (which is why I side eye the suggestions that she MUST love Josh because he's her oldest, well no, you can not love ALL your kids not just some of them)   It was about attention -- why else would the MOTHER hang her menstrual calendar for all to see?   Oh and who can forget the dry humping at minature golf?

I've said it before, the parents chose Gothardism because the basic tenent is CONTROL.   Plus all the sex you want without the wife every being able to plead a headache.  It was never about God and being good people.  

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4 hours ago, SMama said:

...Jinger was quoted accurately. Just because kids are a blessing doesn’t mean you should have as many as possible. I’m really curious as to how that is going over with JB and Michelle. That’s as in your face as it gets.

Curious as to how the younger siblings feel about that too.

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laurakaye

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Jinger's really making the national rounds with this book.

Jeremy's probably quite taken aback that it's not him being interviewed by US or People, fielding in-depth questions about how it feels to be a top cheeseburger influencer, or being asked for a tour of his incredible fountain pen collection.

Hopefully he's being supportive of her and not petulant.

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Meow Mix

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It's interesting how much she is being asked about Josh.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  He is her brother, but this is supposed to be her story.  She is not responsible for what he did in the past nor for what finally got him locked up.  I think she handled the Page Six interviewer's questions pretty well.  This can't be comfortable for her.

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SMama

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53 minutes ago, Meow Mix said:

It's interesting how much she is being asked about Josh.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  He is her brother, but this is supposed to be her story.  She is not responsible for what he did in the past nor for what finally got him locked up.  I think she handled the Page Six interviewer's questions pretty well.  This can't be comfortable for her.

I agree that it isn’t fair, but it will be a fact of life for the remaining 18 for the rest of their lives. When Ju Ju Chang brought the FF up she framed it regarding hypocrisy. One more thing the 18 can thank their craven, fame whore parents. They signed up for the specials knowing damn well about the evil acts the FF had committed. And in their hubris thought it was a great idea to go on TV and tell everyone how to live their lives. They preached about their so called values and adherence to scripture. They used Deanna and Amy as cautionary tales about the evils of out of wedlock pregnancy, and being worldly. Funny how Amy has flaws like all of us but has never had problems with the law and is certainly not a pedophile preying on her own siblings, or cousins in her case. I feel bad for the siblings but may JB and Michelle suffer in shame until their last breath. 

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1 hour ago, Fosca said:

No copies showing in the Florida Keys Library system.

One of my colleagues ordered a copy for our library system, and our distributor has not shipped it yet.  Which is totally unsurprising.  We are still waiting on the books that released last week to ship also the books from January 17th.  

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2 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

It's interesting how much she is being asked about Josh.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  He is her brother, but this is supposed to be her story.  She is not responsible for what he did in the past nor for what finally got him locked up.  I think she handled the Page Six interviewer's questions pretty well.  This can't be comfortable for her.

Has it been said she mentions him in the book?

Zella

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2 hours ago, SMama said:

I agree that it isn’t fair, but it will be a fact of life for the remaining 18 for the rest of their lives.

Yep and I think that's the main reason they were dumped by TLC. They could read the writing on the wall and realized this would be written about and mentioned every time the Duggars came up. It's not fair--especially to the victims--but it's a side effect of their parents shilling them as the ideal family and as a cohesive unit.  

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I love Tamron. She’s a real journalist and she asks good questions while maintaining a level of sensitivity with her subjects especially those who are victims of abuse. Her sister was a domestic violence victim who was murdered by her abuser. She did a good job with Jinger. I could’ve done without Jermy. That’s the best I’ve seen Jinger look too. I wonder if Tam’s hair and makeup team hooked her up.

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On 1/30/2023 at 3:19 PM, GeeGolly said:

Probably for the same reason some viewers thought the Duggars were quaint. It was being sold as an easier, simpler, safer way to follow one's faith and raise God fearing kids. 

And... some obstetricians are men, men design woman's clothing, not all pediatricians have kids, Priests aren't married or have kids...

Some obstetricians are women who've never been pregnant.  Like me.

Also, Jesus was a single guy with no kids.

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5 minutes ago, Tasya said:

I'm curious as to why it's A'ok to refer to Christianity as a cult, but if someone was to say ohhh being LGBTQ is cultish (I am NOT saying that), there would be a huge uproar. It would be really great if Christians could feel that their religion wasn't constantly being attacked on this forum.

Gothardism is absolutely a cult.

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sagittarius sue

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20 minutes ago, Tasya said:

I'm curious as to why it's A'ok to refer to Christianity as a cult, but if someone was to say ohhh being LGBTQ is cultish (I am NOT saying that), there would be a huge uproar. It would be really great if Christians could feel that their religion wasn't constantly being attacked on this forum.

I'm a Christian, and I do not feel that religion is being attacked on this forum.  I feel people are able to express different opinions in a respectful manner.  It's true we don't respect Gothardism as we dislike what this religion has done to the children in the group.  I wouldn't say it's quite a cult such as Scientology, FLDS, or people such as Jim Jones, as people can leave it, and they're not completely separate from family members in it.  However, it is cultish.  We also aren't fond of patriarchal religions such as Gothardism and James MacArthur's Church.  Many of us have spoken positively of our religions whether Catholic, Jewish, or Lutheran (my own), etc.

ETA:  I also like to give credit to those who are agnostic or atheist posting here who are also respectful unlike in some arenas.

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satrunrose

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I would really hope Jinger's family has enough sense to realize that if they disown Jinger and continue to support her brother/abuser then any kind of fame, from instagram shilling for Joy and Jessa to JB's super creepy christian theatre in Branson will be done. They'll loose any semi moderates that are still clinging on, although I'm sure they can still count on the prayers of Jill R and other nutty barnacles. 

There's also the weddings that still have to be arranged. We're almost positive that Anna, Derrik, Ben, Jeremy, Lauren, Kendra, Claire and Katey all married in (or were strongly encouraged by their families to do so) to ride the Duggar fame train (this could also apply to Abbie, Austin and Hannah, but I don't feel like it's as clear for them). If Boob and Meech disown Jinger in a public way, marrying into the Duggar clan isn't going to be a popular social move for for the remaining howlers and the lost girls. 

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Zella

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58 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

I would really hope Jinger's family has enough sense to realize that if they disown Jinger and continue to support her brother/abuser then any kind of fame, from instagram shilling for Joy and Jessa to JB's super creepy christian theatre in Branson will be done.

I'm really okay with them losing all of that, though!

It would be terrible for Jinger, and truthfully, I don't wish that shunning on her. I think it would really hurt her. 

But Duggars detonating their prospects because they're dumbasses is not actually a bad thing, IMO. 

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merylinkid

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7 hours ago, Zella said:

But Duggars detonating their prospects because they're dumbasses is not actually a bad thing, IMO. 

Or unheard of.  

But I don't see them shunning Jinger.  Jill is one thing because she went after JBs money.   Even though it was HERS.   Jinger is just following the family line of making money by exploiting herself.   JB will forgive a LOT if it makes money.

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floridamom

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Like an earlier post on this blog stated: Jim Bob will not shun Jinger. He only shunned Jill because she and Derick asked him for Jill's share of the money. To my knowledge, Jinger hasn't asked Jim Bob for her share of the money. That man is motivated by the bucks $$$. I don't believe that Jinger is really free; she has exchanged Gothard's teachings for MacArthur's...and only MacArthurs because it is her husband's belief. MacArthur has bankrolled them too; if only offering them that house to live in for free "only for 6 months" while a seminary student...How many years did they exploit that offer? I don't wish Jinger any harm, but I don't think her book really answers any real questions. Some of her responses were vague IMO. I certainly did NOT need Jeremy sticking himself in this interview. This should have been Jinger's alone.

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10 hours ago, satrunrose said:

If Boob and Meech disown Jinger in a public way, marrying into the Duggar clan isn't going to be a popular social move for for the remaining howlers and the lost girls. 

I'm not sure that would do much, if any, more damage to the Duggar kids' marriage prospects within fundieland, than has already been done by Josh. If I were a fundie father, I'd probably be all in with JB's religious beliefs, no matter that the Duggar Crown Prince is in prison. JB said back during Joshgate I that they know many families that had experienced "the same thing," and we've seen that Joshgate I didn't stop plenty of okay marriages for the Duggarlings. I think a fundie father is going to look at the Duggar finances. So far they aren't jammed into a double-wide and JB's businesses appear to be rolling along. IMO religious issues and finances will be more important to a fundie dad looking at a Duggarling as a prospective spouse for their kid, than whatever JB and Meech do (or don't) in reaction to Jinger's book. 

9 hours ago, Zella said:

It would be terrible for Jinger, and truthfully, I don't wish that shunning on her. I think it would really hurt her. 

But Duggars detonating their prospects because they're dumbasses is not actually a bad thing, IMO. 

Well said.

1 hour ago, merylinkid said:

Or unheard of.  

But I don't see them shunning Jinger.  Jill is one thing because she went after JBs money.   Even though it was HERS.   Jinger is just following the family line of making money by exploiting herself.   JB will forgive a LOT if it makes money.

And, ^^THIS. Jill and Derick hit JB where it hurts the most: money. JB did somewhat shun Jill (banning her from the TTH without his advance approval) although she wasn't ousted from the family. I'm sure JB wishes that if Jinger wasn't going to cling to IBLP, she'd do it quietly. But this is not about JB's money. I don't see the cause of defending Bill Gothard as a hill JB is prepared to die on, even though JB and Meech were utter Gothard believers when it came to raising and educating (to use the term loosely) their kids. I"m sure JB really gloried in his time in the IBLP limelight, when he and Meech were the big stars of the IBLP family conferences. But those days seem to be gone anyway. 

I wonder what sly things Jessa's going to put on her social media in reaction to Jinger's so far well-presented and extensive book promotion campaign. Heh.

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