The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[Rootbeer]

3 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I see they both removed TLC, and Counting On from their Instagram bios.

I wonder if TLC's attorneys told them to do it.  I wouldn't be surprised if TLC starts to pretend that the Duggars never existed.  Considering it is their entire 'claim to fame', I doubt Jinger or Jer would've done it without prompting.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Rootbeer

[Rootbeer]

1 hour ago, emmawoodhouse said:

More hiding their odious beliefs behind some Starbucks coffee mugs. 🙄

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRICDb6FgrU/?utm_medium=copy_link

I've been to El Salvador many times, I've been to Starbucks many times.  At no time did I ever consider going to Starbucks in El Salvador.  They grow actual coffee in El Salvador, there is no need to go to Starbucks when the good stuff is everywhere.

[emmawoodhouse]

14 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I see they both removed TLC, and Counting On from their Instagram bios.

I wonder how long their non-compete lasts. I want to say they're usually about a year.

[Churchhoney]

11 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I wonder how long their non-compete lasts. I want to say they're usually about a year.

Supremely Annoying WOACB Katie has heard 6 months.... So it's at least that. 

 

[GeeGolly]

The Duggars were huge money makers for TIC. They're still on the website, so I doubt removing the show's name was their request. Maybe Jing and Jer have signed on with Bravo or something and are cleaning house, so to speak.

Edited July 10, 2021 by GeeGolly

[emmawoodhouse]

15 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

The Duggars were huge money makers for TIC. They're still on the website, so I doubt removing the dhow's name was their request. Maybe Jing and Jer have signed on with Bravo or something and are cleaning house, so to speak.

They can't. TLC would be fools to let people go without signing the non-compete clause that I mentioned in my last post. Most last for a year from the date of termination. I don't think this stops them from utilizing social media, but it does stop them from running to another network right away. 

[Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, emmawoodhouse said:

They can't. TLC would be fools to let people go without signing the non-compete clause that I mentioned in my last post. Most last for a year from the date of termination. I don't think this stops them from utilizing social media, but it does stop them from running to another network right away. 

I can’t imagine any other network wanting them.

[Churchhoney]

10 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I can’t imagine any other network wanting them.

Here's hoping. 

On the other hand, Hollywood has a habit of doing the same crap over and over and over again because they're afraid of trying something new. 😟

[BigBingerBro]

How long was the gap between the Bates's TLC series and their UP series?

[Churchhoney]

9 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

How long was the gap between the Bates's TLC series and their UP series?

According to Wikipedia, here are the dates -- Pretty big gap, so probably not entirely non-compete related, though?

United Bates of America ran for a single season between August 13, 2012, until September 3, 2012. 

The Bates family was previously featured on a 2012 TV series called United Bates of America, and it was announced in October 2014 that the family would return in a new series which would be called Bringing Up Bates. The series debuted on January 1, 2015.[1] Season nine began airing on March 5, 2020.[2]

 

Edited July 10, 2021 by Churchhoney

[emmawoodhouse]

Good news is that Up won't pick up the Duggars. They could, however, pick up the RAD Vuolos and feature them as the young Christian family in LA. They're different enough from any of the Bates couples that it's scarily possible.

[Marshmallow Mollie]

Another vote for Side Hugs podcast

[GeeGolly]

6 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Good news is that Up won't pick up the Duggars. They could, however, pick up the RAD Vuolos and feature them as the young Christian family in LA. They're different enough from any of the Bates couples that it's scarily possible.

I agree they won't pick up the Duggars, but UP did keep running 7th Heaven after it was revealed that Stephen Collins was molesting young girls.

[Dehumidifier]

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

[Absolom]

40 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

Possibly because of how the parents have handled or more correctly never handled the situation of Josh's behavior.  That and no family is really penalized for not continuing a reality show.  No one is entitled to be on TV for money.  

[GeeGolly]

2 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

As @Absolom said, no one is entitled to a show - period. But its not really TLC who is doing the cancelling. Its the viewers, haters and advertisers. I wholeheartedly believe if TLC thought they could keep advertisers, they wouldn't cancel the show. But I do agree that it feels unfair for the Duggar siblings to lose their income due to Josh and their parents.

Edited July 10, 2021 by GeeGolly

[Churchhoney]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

Maybe because even though we all know that "reality" tv in general is fake to a degree....you may kind of have a problem if you allow a "reality" tv show to go on and on while you decline ever to mention one of the biggest, most intense parts of the reality that exists for all of its main characters, let alone show them grappling with it in any way? And yet it's pretty clear that that's what would happen on a continued Duggar show of any kind. 

And because of their whole great-Christian-family-family-family shtick, that'd be a bigger elephant in the room than similar criminal stuff is on some of the other shows, where the people in question haven't billed themselves consistently as "a family to look up to," basically. 

In what sense, are we being shown the Duggar offspring's "reality" if they and the show pretend week after week, year after year, that Josh's issues and Pops' involvement with those issues and any family angst or strife related to those issues simply don't exist? 

The network may well figure that, if they show a program that's obviously that far away from reality, they'll almost inevitably lose a lot of viewers, and not pick up any new ones.....in an era of heightened sensitivities about sexual crimes of various kinds. And since Counting On has already been edging closer to the "numbers that get you canceled because you're not a moneymaker" threshold, it could simply be a pretty run-of-the-mill business decision to cancel them. 

When we're talking "unfair" here, I think it's a compared-to-what situation. Was it fair for the Willis kids to lose their show, when virtually all of them were actual victims of hideous abuse of one kind or another by their father? But, again, I'd guess that canceling that show was a business decision. The kinds of advertisers who want to run ads on a show like that may not have been happy about the fact that their brands might get subliminally linked in people's minds to Toby Willis, even though he would be off the show. And if the advertisers flee, that's the end of your show, whether you're a crime victim who could use some help and income or not. 

Live by the ratings and ad revenue, die by the ratings and ad revenue. I'm sure this isn't TLC somehow punishing the Duggars or making any kind of judgment about morals or deserts.  It's not personal. It's just business. 

That said, I can also easily imagine TLC or somebody else starting a new show with any Duggars they see as potential revenue boosters. 

They're not making any moves based on judgments about morality or fairness. They're making them based on earnings potential and public image (which ultimately relates to earnings potential). When it comes to fair and unfair, TLC is as neutral as the plague. 

ETA: Changing demographics also can play into decisions like this. In the case of the Duggars, I expect (mostly white) evangelical Protestants make up a fairly hefty part of their fanbase, cause everybody likes to see people like themselves on tv. But here's a very recent stat on that population, showing its status throughout the entire Duggar tv run -- 

Of all American religion-related categories, "since 2006, white evangelical Protestants have experienced the most precipitous drop in affiliation, shrinking from 23% of Americans in 2006 to 14% in 2020. That proportion has generally held steady since 2017 (15% in 2017, 2018, and 2019)".

https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/
 

That won't help the Duggars' case for staying on tv, I would imagine. 

Edited July 10, 2021 by Churchhoney

[Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

PeNaLiZeD - they can get jobs like the rest of us. They aren’t owed a reality show. 🤷‍♀️

[Suzn]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

Why is anyone entitled to have a TV show or to be dependent on it for income?

[Dehumidifier]

Let's hope none of your siblings do anything bad.

[Cinnabon]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

Possibly because of how the parents have handled or more correctly never handled the situation of Josh's behavior.  That and no family is really penalized for not continuing a reality show.  No one is entitled to be on TV for money.  

And the fact that ALL of their ideas are harmful and dangerous. Especially those who try to cloak it in veneers of “hip” and “normal” like hypocritical Jinjer.

2 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Let's hope none of your siblings do anything bad.

Even if he does ( in my case) , my career is in no way tied to him 🤷‍♀️

[Fosca]

5 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Let's hope none of your siblings do anything bad.

The peril of having a family business is that anything that affects the family can affect the business.  If my siblings do something bad, since we all have very different careers and live in different parts of the country I doubt it would affect me (unless what they did made the national news, and maybe not even then).

In a way, this is all because of their fame: we only know Josh Duggar and his arrest only made the national news because of the fame of the "family business", and I suspect at least partly because they billed themselves as being "ultra-Christian" and presumably better than the rest of us.  Americans love to see how "the mighty have fallen", and our national motto (these days in particular) would more accurately be "Schadenfreude, baby!" rather than "E pluribus unum". 

 

ETA:  I do think that Jin and Jer have another deal going, probably with TLC.  To me, their messages say everything but "Nanny nanny boo boo, we have a series!"  Which will be so boring it will make watching paint dry look exciting and breathtaking in comparison, but if enough leghumpers/haters watch may get them more than one season.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Fosca

[iwantcookies]

22 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Lets hope Jingle doesn’t pull a Shelly!

I know it’s wrong to laugh at that. But that is funny.

Where is Shelly is a good question. 

[BitterApple]

9 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Let's hope none of your siblings do anything bad.

I understand what you're saying. I think the problem is this family is so entangled there's no way to separate siblings from Josh/Meech/Boob. The kids are weak willed and brainwashed. Even if they manage to get another spin-off, Boob will have his tentacles in the pot somehow. He's not going to let Jessa have her own show without him getting a Manager's cut or some other kind of fee, and any money that goes to him, gets filtered down to Josh. 

Now, I could see Jeremy and Jinger separating and making a statement that they have an independent contract, their own manager, lawyer, etc., but the two of them are dull as dirt. They can't carry a show on their own, and any Duggar appearances brings back the issue of where the money goes and who benefits. At this stage of the game, the family isn't worth the headache. 

[iwantcookies]

It must have physically hurt Jeremy to delete that he is a BREAK OUT STAR on TLC from his bio. 
 

 

[JoanArc]

46 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Let's hope none of your siblings do anything bad.

Ignoring Josh, they treated 18 other children like chattel slaves. Still do, as a matter fact.  They lie so much they don’t even know what the truth is. They are abusive. They are out to take over the government and install basically a cristofascist state. They are likely financial swindlers, and tax invaders. They have supported sex criminals other than Josh. No one works or contribute anything to society.

You think the last girls are receiving an education at the monstrosity house?

 Duggars, how do I despise there, let me count the ways… 

26 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

It must have physically hurt Jeremy to delete that he is a BREAK OUT STAR on TLC from his bio. 
 

 

 He doesn’t have a social media account. Remember? So jingle did it on her phone.

[GeeGolly]

TLC and the Duggars may bill them(selves) as a Christian family, but how one defines that is at their own discretion and I guess, peril. For me personally, Christian describes having a Jesus based faith. The word Christian does not mean, to me anyway, better, more trustworthy or aspirational.

So if Jeremy and Jinger (because this is their thread) bill themselves as some new Christian "break-out stars", IMO, its buyer (watcher) beware. 

Edited July 10, 2021 by GeeGolly

[lascuba]

Let's also not forget the optics of any of Josh's siblings having their own show while still--presumably--having a relationship with their parents. JB is paying Josh's legal fees* and is the one who did the scrambling to find a guardian for him. The Duggars have mastered the art of ignoring or outright lying about the various elephants in the room, with only the haters calling them out. I don't think that would work this time. Unless Jinger and Jeremy publicly cut off all ties withe JB and Michelle, they can't just do talking heads never mentioning the Duggars while we still see pictures of them visiting Arkansas on social media.

*For the record, though it pains me, I do believe that everyone should have adequate legal representation so *technically* I don't/shouldn't have a problem with this. But it's Josh. And his parents have enabled him all his life. It looks bad and feels gross no matter how you slice it.

[Not Buyin It]

5 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

Because of the vile foolishness which is today's "cancel culture". Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, anyone?

 

[madpsych78]

6 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Why should the whole family be penalized because one out of 19 kids turned out bad?

Let's define "bad" here. If we're defining "bad" as having committed a crime, then yes, there is only one of 19 kids that falls under that definition (that we know of). 

But if we're defining "bad" as not only having hateful beliefs but going out of their way to proselytize and convert others, then I would add at least two or three more kids into the mix who turned out bad by that definition.

[Churchhoney]

The vast majority of tv shows that ever existed -- tv shows of all varieties including reality shows -- have been cancelled by now. Many many shows have been cancelled with far bigger regular audiences than the Duggar shows. 

A tv show is not forever. Just sayin. 

That said, my bet is that some of the Duggars will be back. 

 

Edited July 10, 2021 by Churchhoney

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Not Buyin It said:

Because of the vile foolishness which is today's "cancel culture". Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, anyone?

 

God forbid the public not want to support child porn and anyone associated with it. Also, this is an opportunity for those grandkids to escape the exploitation of having their lives broadcast to millions of complete strangers. Nothing could be more positive for those poor exploited kids.

ETA - it’s not “cancel” culture, it’s simply consequence culture 🤷‍♀️

Edited July 10, 2021 by Cinnabon

[Chicklet]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

The word Christian does not mean, to me anyway, better, more trustworthy or aspirational

Well to many businesses it means exactly that. Travel around the deep south and that's a way of advertising your business. When I look for a plumber it's good ratings not how christian the owner might be. The Duggars kind of trade on that by being the mostest christians that ever were. 

[Westiepeach]

Ok, so apparently it is my first day. When people say they are “taking their comment to blah blah blah” how do you do it? When I try it I fail miserably. I am really not an idiot…

[iwantcookies]

4 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Ignoring Josh, they treated 18 other children like chattel slaves. Still do, as a matter fact.  They lie so much they don’t even know what the truth is. They are abusive. They are out to take over the government and install basically a cristofascist state. They are likely financial swindlers, and tax invaders. They have supported sex criminals other than Josh. No one works or contribute anything to society.

You think the last girls are receiving an education at the monstrosity house?

 Duggars, how do I despise there, let me count the ways… 

 He doesn’t have a social media account. Remember? So jingle did it on her phone.

I forgot that Jeremy doesn’t have SM on his phone. 
 

 

[SunnyBeBe]

3 hours ago, Not Buyin It said:

Because of the vile foolishness which is today's "cancel culture". Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, anyone?

 

I get it and agree to a certain extent. I probably should take to another thread though. 

[Future Cat Lady]

43 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

I forgot that Jeremy doesn’t have SM on his phone. 
 

 

I think Jeremy also forgot that he "doesnt have SM on his phone".

[realityfan26]

2 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Ok, so apparently it is my first day. When people say they are “taking their comment to blah blah blah” how do you do it? When I try it I fail miserably. I am really not an idiot…

I can't help you, but I feel the same! 

[Absolom]

Copy the comment to which you're responding and paste it in a quote box in small talk and then type your response below the quote box.  

[JoanArc]

3 hours ago, Chicklet said:

Well to many businesses it means exactly that. Travel around the deep south and that's a way of advertising your business. When I look for a plumber it's good ratings not how christian the owner might be. The Duggars kind of trade on that by being the mostest christians that ever were. 

The Duggars are the ultimate cancel culture. “ we are faithful, deeply committed Christians “  is used to cancel everything else from child abuse, to child molestation, to child pornography.  That’s not even touching the ecological, political, educational, etc. damage they do to the world. 

I think Josh, and Jim Bob both to some extent think Josh will be completely went off the hook and his crimes canceled by being able to make such a sentiment in a courtroom.

To be fair, the Duggars are far from the only people who pull this kind of bullshit, but they are prominent in the media so we focus on them. I think we all know the Duggar types in our personal lives. They’re a kind of people I try to avoid, and dare I say cancel? 

[Cinnabon]

If it were up to them and their ilk, a lot of our rights would be canceled, especially us women, minorities, and LGBTQIA.

[Westiepeach]

43 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Copy the comment to which you're responding and paste it in a quote box in small talk and then type your response below the quote box.  

Ahhhhh… I was just copying my comment (I know, I know 🙇‍♀️) and taking it over to say, Small Talk. And failing miserably. Thank you!

[iwantcookies]

1 hour ago, Cinnabon said:

If it were up to them and their ilk, a lot of our rights would be canceled, especially us women, minorities, and LGBTQIA.

Yep that’s what Derelict crooked jaw Dillard JD wants to accomplish. 

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

Yep that’s what Derelict crooked jaw Dillard JD wants to accomplish. 

Maybe,  maybe not. 🤷‍♀️

[Minivanessa]

6 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Ok, so apparently it is my first day. When people say they are “taking their comment to blah blah blah” how do you do it? When I try it I fail miserably. I am really not an idiot…

You can do it with the "multi quote" function. You click the little plus sign below the text in the post:

And that makes a box pop up at the bottom right corner of the screen - in this case it says quote 1 post because I only clicked the + sign in one post:

Then you can navigate over to another topic - such as the Small Talk topic - and when you click the "Quote 1 post" box there, it will paste the text and info of your quoted post so you can then write your reply. 

tl,dr: the "multi quote" function not only lets you quote multiple posts in a reply, it lets you take your reply to another topic whether you're quoting just one, or more than one, post. 

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, Jeeves said:

You can do it with the "multi quote" function. You click the little plus sign below the text in the post:

And that makes a box pop up at the bottom right corner of the screen - in this case it says quote 1 post because I only clicked the + sign in one post:

Then you can navigate over to another topic - such as the Small Talk topic - and when you click the "Quote 1 post" box there, it will paste the text and info of your quoted post so you can then write your reply. 

tl,dr: the "multi quote" function not only lets you quote multiple posts in a reply, it lets you take your reply to another topic whether you're quoting just one, or more than one, post. 

Thank you! 
I knew there was a way of doing it because I used to do it on another board but forgot how I did it…. As soon as I read your directions it all came back to me! 👍🏻

[iwantcookies]

[Chicklet]

Are we supposed to know who the guy with the bad taste in shirts is? I mean I'm sure Jer wanted us to be in awe.

Edited July 11, 2021 by Chicklet

[iwantcookies]

Who is the guy ? I can’t find him. I found a orthopedic surgeon by that name. I doubt that’s him. 

[BradandJanet]

Anybody who stands next to Jeremy must already be famous or will become famous just by standing next to Jeremy. 

I'd like to see how a show featuring Jer & Jing would explain the rent-free house, meals out, trips, and fancy clothes without mentioning what they do to afford these things. What does Jer do that would make interesting, but acceptable, television?  Would MacArthur get a shoutout? Jinger, famous only for being on a now-canceled TV show, has babies and makes cute poses for the camera. That seems to be her range. Their show would have a lot of dancing about the obvious. Of course, JB & M managed to do it for years, so it's possible. Having an army of kids certainly helped. 

Jing and Jer would have to feature their children on camera. So much for privacy concerns. 

However, punchable Aunt Cade would be delighted to hit the gourmet coffee shops with Jer. I don't think he minds being filmed.