The Duggars: In the Media and TLC

[lulee]

From the DailyMail write up about the clip: "Jessa, 22, who is expecting her first child with husband Ben Seewald, added: 'Here I am, the most joyful time of my life, newly married, baby on the way and then...We were devastated. Like, we couldn't believe it. You have to wonder how did this happen.'"

Once again, the emphasis that were devastated by the media this past summer when the story became public but - from the way they tell - not when their brother violated them, because, after all, they're not victims, he was just doing boy stuff, and it happens in every family. Isn't that what they told us?

[Darknight]

Jill and Jessa counting on others to support their lifestyle because they're too lazy.

[kokapetl]

I'll admit I wanted to see the daughters get their own show so it and they could fail on their own terms, but seeing Jill failing to cope in that promo was unpleasant.

[CofCinci]

Jill & Jessa: Counting On (Josh Fucking This One Up For Us Too).

[Aja]

This is one of the problems that I have with Huckabee and his ilk. We are supposed to admire the Duggars because they are self-proclaimed Christians and Christian = Good. You don't have to dig very deeply, however, to the the fallacy of that.

 

Are the good friends -- no, they have no friends.

 

Are they good neighbors -- no, see J'chelle, Robocalls of.

 

Are they honest -- no, see Dillards, Mission of.

 

Are they kind -- no, See Seewald, Sermons of.

 

Do they care for the poor -- not in any meaninful way, see Dillard, The Sharing of the Donuts; Duggars, Mission Trip of

 

Do they honor their father and mother -- God no. See JB, father of.

 

Are they generous -- Ha, ha, ha. See JB, All.

 

Are they hard-working -- Ha, ha, ha. OMG, ha, ha, ha. See Duggars, All, Dillards, All, Seewalds, All

 

If the show hadn't come along, they would still be living in poverty shoved into a tiny house while JB and sons continued to work on the TTH. They would still be eating mostly "Love Offereings" from their church and the announcement of each new "blessing" would be met with the same eye-roll that I would imagine that SATRUNROSE's friend receives with each new announcement.

 

And I agree 100% with SATRUNROSE that if they were African-American or Mexican-American, or -- God forbid -- Muslim, Huckabee would be blowing a gasket over them.

See also Cat, deliberate attempt at harming of whilst giggling hysterically. 

[Ljohnson1987]

What does TLC think bringing back Jill, Jessa and their dull husbands is going to accomplish? What have they accomplished? Besides marrying, popping out babies, and faking careers. In the promo, Jill is crying about the scandal, but she’s more than willing to talk about it, for the sake of money. These girls need real therapy. I don’t believe for one second that they received nothing more than Gothard counseling.  I doubt many people will support this. Nice try, TLC. No more Duggars!

[louannems]

US magazine and People magazine both have articles discussing the Jill Jessa trailer. The comments are viscous!

[Ljohnson1987]

How did TLC get enough sponsors to touch this shitshow? I figured after the Smugs scandal, no one would touch them.

[JoanArc]

How did TLC get enough sponsors to touch this shitshow? I figured after the Smugs scandal, no one would touch them.

It's gonna be 90% commercials for Lowes. Have a molester in your family? Buy locks for your Daughter's room at Lowes!

Edited October 19, 2015 by JoanArc

[Julia]

How did TLC get enough sponsors to touch this shitshow? I figured after the Smugs scandal, no one would touch them.

 

There are enough rich folks out there who have strong political motivation to dry clean the Duggars that I'm sure they had no problem making production costs, and there's a woman at TLC whose entire career was based on them who has a humiliating $19 million writeoff to come back from. If Honey Boo Boo's mom's boyfriend had been out stumping for candidates they'd probably be rehabbing her too.

[BitterApple]

I'll admit I wanted to see the daughters get their own show so it and they could fail on their own terms, but seeing Jill failing to cope in that promo was unpleasant.

I do as well. It's like okay, you feel entitled to your precious tv show, prove you have what it takes to carry a weekly series. Unless they find a way to incorporate the rest of the family to rotate storylines, they'll crash and burn in a year.

[barbedwire]

Jill & Jessa Counting On (you to watch so we don't have to get real jobs)

This right here.  Their hubbies too.

[kokapetl]

facebook.com/countingonTLC?

Edited October 19, 2015 by Kokapetl

[Adeejay]

From the DailyMail write up about the clip: "Jessa, 22, who is expecting her first child with husband Ben Seewald, added: 'Here I am, the most joyful time of my life, newly married, baby on the way and then...We were devastated. Like, we couldn't believe it. You have to wonder how did this happen.''

 

According to Yahoo, Jessa isn't talking about her brother and the molestation, but rather, "the media blew everything way out of proportion."

[Buggin]

I really would love every sponsor to pull out so that TLC isn't paid for this crap, but if it's going to air, I wouldn't mind if a bunch of LGBT-friendly businesses spent the money on advertising during it. I'm thinking commercials like Cheerios or Tylenol with the same-sex couples and their families, maybe a big ad for Rainbow Doritos whose proceeds go to It Gets Better, etc.

[momofsquid]

I managed to watch the preview, but I just cannot imagine how a bunch of dolts so utterly lacking in intelligence, personality or charisma can possibly carry three hours of television. As has been said many times before, the parents got a show because they're reproductive freaks. The daughters are ordinary uneducated, unappealing Bible-thumpers. You might as well film me sitting here with my laptop because these girls have nothing more interesting to say than I do. And so far I have more children than either of them! Give me a TLC paycheck, dang it!

[NikSac]

Jill and Jessa: Counting Our Blessings

 

^ What the title should have been. Srsly, TLC. Get your shit together. 

 

Plus, the double meaning of "blessings" would've been so much fun for us to snark on, because the show is essentially going to be about them pimping out their own kids now. Ah, the circle of life continues. 

 

That is a way better title. You should work for TLC!  (well only if you want to - wouldn't wish that on someone who didn't)

How do they address the molestation? So, my my mom and my dad and my brother were the ones who behaved badly, not us, and then TLC revictimized us by canceling our show? 

 

** Even though we weren't victims in the first place. He was sly, it was over the clothes, we were asleep, and it was quick after all...

[whydoiwatch]

Every time I see Jill in an interview, TH, etc.,my only thought is "that girl isn't too bright." In no way mnimizing what Josh did to her and the others and keeping in mind her lack of education, she just comes across as very limited. Jill's speech pattern is odd and her  vocabulary is so narrow that I honestly wonder about her. Jill's arrogance and perceived sense of entitlement don't help her any either. 

I realize Jill is a product of her upbringing, but at what point will one of that clan break free and leave that dysfunctional, isolated, miserable life?

[lulee]

According to Yahoo, Jessa isn't talking about her brother and the molestation, but rather, "the media blew everything way out of proportion."

Yes, exactly what I said. She was upset about the story becoming public.

[sometimesy]

I managed to watch the preview, but I just cannot imagine how a bunch of dolts so utterly lacking in intelligence, personality or charisma can possibly carry three hours of television. As has been said many times before, the parents got a show because they're reproductive freaks. The daughters are ordinary uneducated, unappealing Bible-thumpers. You might as well film me sitting here with my laptop because these girls have nothing more interesting to say than I do. And so far I have more children than either of them! Give me a TLC paycheck, dang it!

Editing. The missioncation will all flow seamlessly with Jill getting her midwife printout, learning Spanish and then frolicking in the waves, errr airman dancing, errr grocery shopping in the store next to the Walmart. I dunno, creative timelines and TLC generated events, same as usual.

[ginger90]

On my e-mail home page:

 

Jill & Jessa Duggar Return To TLC In "Counting On"

For a family that often lashes out at the media for invading their privacy, the Duggars certainly do enjoy being in the spotlight.

 

And there you have it!

Edited October 19, 2015 by ginger90

[Satchels of gold]

You forgot the part that it was such a long long long time ago and now he has turned his life over to Christ so it's all good now.

[JoanArc]

You forgot the part that it was such a long long long time ago and now he has turned his life over to Christ so it's all good now.

And don't even bring up that his dick's not even dry from the hookers. Amen.

[MarysWetBar]

And don't even bring up that his dick's not even dry from the hookers. Amen.

I seriously doubt his bloated pasty bod caused any sort of moisture accumulation in said hooker's nether region. Jus sayin.

[JoanArc]

I seriously doubt his bloated pasty bod caused any sort of moisture accumulation in said hooker's nether region. Jus sayin.

Fear sweat from her, and flop sweat from him counts.

[Wellfleet]

How did TLC get enough sponsors to touch this shitshow? I figured after the Smugs scandal, no one would touch them.

 

Because Americans love a comeback story, I thought they were still hanging on by a thread after Joshgate 1 - unlikely that they'd be back, but still a viable possibility. After Joshgate 2, however, I was convinced they were gone for good. And when the second generation specials were announced, I thought the same thing - what company-business-organization wants to go on record as sponsoring the continued mis-adventures of the Duggars? Do we know who these sponsors are yet?

[travel17]

I am excited about the law and order special. I wonder if anyone is watching?

[JoanArc]

Because Americans love a comeback story, I thought they were still hanging on by a thread after Joshgate 1 - unlikely that they'd be back, but still a viable possibility. After Joshgate 2, however, I was convinced they were gone for good. And when the second generation specials were announced, I thought the same thing - what company-business-organization wants to go on record as sponsoring the continued mis-adventures of the Duggars? Do we know who these sponsors are yet?

Cancel The Duggars FB page has a list. Lowes is one. Don't want to run afoul of the mods by posting them all.

[fliptopbox]

I am excited about the law and order special. I wonder if anyone is watching?

When is it on?

[StaceyNotStacie]

I am excited about the law and order special. I wonder if anyone is watching?

 

I will be watching.  I am a regular viewer of Law & Order SVU, but I am really looking forward to this episode.  I am curious as to how they are going to spin this one.

[Sew Sumi]

When is it on?

11/4

[travel17]

I don't know how to quote. But Law and Order SVU, on Nov. 4, 9pm ET. I'm not a normal viewer but I will be there with bells on!!

[Readalot]

I don't know how to quote. But Law and Order SVU, on Nov. 4, 9pm ET. I'm not a normal viewer but I will be there with bells on!!

it's been forever since I watched it but I will have my bells on too. I suspect there will be a lot of us in the SUV board discussing the episode.

[sometimesy]

If this includes a pregnant 13 year old, won't it be too far off the TLC show for any real 'ripped from the headlines' connection to the Duggs?

[allonsyalice]

Not always. Svu episodes have this habit of starting out as one thing, and ending up completely different by the time they're in court.

[Defrauder]

The Duggars purposed to not include any of the victims who were actually awake  in the victims we're not victims infamous interview because they would have a hard time saying it 'was nothing really' we 'were all sleeping' 'we didn't even know it'. Next - marry off as many awake victims as soon as possible to say - see all's fine, no harm done. 

[Jordan Baker]

I am excited about the law and order special. I wonder if anyone is watching?

 

I'll be watching. I started watching again after Raul Esparza was cast as the ADA. He's great. (OK, he's great in everything. There's never been a better Bobby in "Company" . . . but I digress.)

 

I cannot wait to see his character cross-examine some of the Duggar-like characters.

 

Edited because "starting" and "started" are different!

Edited October 20, 2015 by Jordan Baker

[Satchels of gold]

We are doing some kind of live chat , correct?

[Tabbygirl521]

I read something icky in the latest "InTouch." I don't recall ever hearing this before: he supposedly once caught a Duggar boy masturbating, and made the kid do a bunch of chores with his hands tied together. This is per an unnamed insider, of course. The article's focus is that Jim Bob is actually a cold hard bastard and that no one dares cross him.

If by any chance this is true, I wonder who on earth ratted him out.

[lulee]

My money would be on one of the other boy Js. .

[kokapetl]

Gawker ran that story when shit hit the fan the first time. Their story had JimBob bursting into the bathroom. I think it was allegedly one of the boys bathrooms, so it probably would have been a boy who noticed their brother had been in the bathroom for like 2 hours.

[NikSac]

I'm curious to see the law and order episode.

 

I do remember that story about the boy being in the bathroom too long originally. I thought it was kind of ridiculous at the time and I still do, but I hope the kid (whoever it is) has some amount of privacy now.

The Duggars purposed to not include any of the victims who were actually awake  in the victims we're not victims infamous interview because they would have a hard time saying it 'was nothing really' we 'were all sleeping' 'we didn't even know it'. Next - marry off as many awake victims as soon as possible to say - see all's fine, no harm done. 

 

Yeah that was odd. Let's leave out anyone who actually remembered it, and even those who did remember said it was "over the clothes," he was sly, and it was no big deal. Bet the ones who were awake didn't think it was so great.

[Purpose to defraud]

I'm curious to see the law and order episode.

 

I do remember that story about the boy being in the bathroom too long originally. I thought it was kind of ridiculous at the time and I still do, but I hope the kid (whoever it is) has some amount of privacy now.

 

Yeah that was odd. Let's leave out anyone who actually remembered it, and even those who did remember said it was "over the clothes," he was sly, and it was no big deal. Bet the ones who were awake didn't think it was so great.

Ah, but if the poor girls say they remember it, well they aren't pure anymore, are they? It's no accident that the married girls were the ones interviewed.

Edited October 21, 2015 by Purpose to defraud

[Tabbygirl521]

Gawker ran that story when shit hit the fan the first time. Their story had JimBob bursting into the bathroom. I think it was allegedly one of the boys bathrooms, so it probably would have been a boy who noticed their brother had been in the bathroom for like 2 hours.

But would a J boy alert the media?? Maybe the camera crew got wind of it.

[Aja]

If I remember correctly, the original story was from an alleged 19 KaC crew member.

[Vaysh]

It wasn't even a news story when I read it first, it was a comment made on another story where the readers were encouraged to share any dirt they had on the Duggars. It's hard to know what to think about it since everyone seems to have a different idea about who said what and what really happened. It sounds outlandish and gross, but at the same time I have no problem believing that Jim Boob would punish his sons for masturbating and doing it in as humiliating a way as possible in order to make an example out of them.

 

I find Boob's relationship with his sons to be dysfunctional, weirldy competetive and completely lacking in respect and genuine compassion on his part. He's shown over and over again that he can't stand them one-upping him, even in something as silly as a game or a friendly competition. The way he blatantly disobeyed John David in the Take-Dad-To-Work-episode, combined with JD's resigned reaction, tells me that this is common behaviour. Boob needs to keep his grown sons downtrodden in order to boost his own fragile ego and what better way to do so than by controlling their sexuality in every way and to publicly humiliate them when they step out of line. This family's lack of boundaries when it comes to sex and their hypervigilance regarding the kids' "purity" is so messed up that even something as extreme as the story above wouldn't actually surprise me at this point.

[Defrauder]

It wouldn't surprise me either Vaysh.  JB has to be top dog in all things male whether he is competing with his sons, humiliating them, no matter what it takes.  I even think Bin threw the mini golf course game because he knew JB had to win.  In JB's mind - no one tops him and he has the most fruit off of his loins to prove it.

[Missy Vixen]

I read something icky in the latest "InTouch." I don't recall ever hearing this before: he supposedly once caught a Duggar boy masturbating, and made the kid do a bunch of chores with his hands tied together. This is per an unnamed insider, of course. The article's focus is that Jim Bob is actually a cold hard bastard and that no one dares cross him.

If by any chance this is true, I wonder who on earth ratted him out.

If God exists and hears my prayers, someone's going to find porn on Jim Boob's phone. Lots of it.

 

Right after that, we'll find out he's been less than faithful himself.

 

Allegedly.

[Purpose to defraud]

If God exists and hears my prayers, someone's going to find porn on Jim Boob's phone. Lots of it.

 

Right after that, we'll find out he's been less than faithful himself.

 

Allegedly.

My fondest wish (in this situation, at least) is that JB turns out to have an unauthorized blessing or two, so that he has more than Mechelle.How crazy that would make her!

[JoanArc]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2512557/duggar-family-inspired-law-order-svu-promo-takes-look-inside-twisted-mind-of-michelle-duggar-stand-in-video/

 

 

“We don’t see it as a crime. We see it as a blessing,” she says.

BRUTAL. I love it!