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 Wasn't Yo supposed to have had a swollen head or swollen face or something?

 

I thought Yolanda said that her eyes were all swollen.  Prior to seeing the photos of Yolanda at lunch with Brandi and Kim, I thought that maybe she and David had had a major argument/fight and she had been crying, so that was why her eyes were swollen, as opposed to yet another Lyme sympton.

 

I think it was Erika who then mis-stated that Yolanda's head/brain was swollen.  

 

Yet another case of incorrect information being relayed by these women.  I just wish they would state their facts correctly!!!  

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What a good episode!  Lisar has risen to my number one favorite HW.  Loved her pics of Yo out with her BFFs.   You are the source of my entertainment for now.   Hysterical.   They all give a side eye to Yo's batshittery, including Eileen.  She just does not want to go on camera saying it.  She has a soap star image to maintain.  

 

So we get a glimpse into Erika and Tom's relationship!  Juicy.   He was not happy about dissing LVP  behind her back.  Tom has to maintain a good social status in that town.  So now we will see Erika seek LVPs favor.  

 

Loved Erika telling Kyle that Yo's head was swollen.  Great visual on that one.  Is Erika that stupid?  Entire heads don't swell.  

 

Brandi and Kim have an agenda to get back on this show thus their relationship with Yo.  I cannot be convinced otherwise.  

 

ETA- Kudos, Daisy, good camera angle on that RSVP. 

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I don't know about that. Maybe I'm a horrible person, but I've said things behind someone's back to someone I trust when I am still trying to figure people out. I don't think this is that unusual. When I first moved to Michigan and hosted a neighborhood holiday party, afterwards, I chatted with a gal I had known longer about several of the people who I was just getting to know, and some of my comments were harsh (I think he is a sexist, what is with her hair, does that chick always drink so much, etc). Many of the people I chatted about have become close friends over a dozen years as I got to know them. Some of my initial impressions proved correct, some of them did not. The reality is, Erika's words were filmed and LVP was going to see them. However, had they been allowed to get to know each other and develop a friendship, LVP probably wouldn't have felt the same way when she saw it later. As it stands, Kathryn got in the way of that.

Kathryn immediately telling LVP does make a difference EVEN if it was caught by the cameras. As I've stated before, there is a good amount of time between filming and airing and between that time Erika would have had more interactions with LVP and maybe one on one's limo rides or brunches, ya know, the shit they do during filming, where Erika could have broached the subject herself and maybe threw out a few feelers of her own to see if maybe they could have their own conversation about this that and the ohter. Who knows, by the end of a couple of interactions a dialogue like "damn, LVP I did mention before that you can be stealth" or some such crap like that in a lighthearted way and then take it from there. I dunno, I get the feeling that even though we've seen Erika side step this and that and has gotten sloppy a tad I also get the impression that she is thoughtful about what's going on around her and I wouldn't have been surprised to see her engage in that kind of conversation with LVP in order to finally break into a comfortable place with her after a few more rounds of filming. Kathyrn put the Kabosh on that by completely changing the dynamic between Erika and LVP so I do think Erika's side is very valid.

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When did Rinna become the Ms. Manners of the group?  Her behavior was just one step above Kathryn's.  I don't see why these women Erika and Lisar, are elevating the initial socializing with Tom as the big social faux pas of the evening, bad behavior is bad behavior, it should not matter how many times you have met the person.  Erika might want to review her previous hostessing activities where she yelled at people and lied.  Having the event at your house does not mean you have immunity from bad behavior.   I can't imagine Kathyrn is welcome many places if her goal is to get reactions out of people or engage in arguments.  Her behavior isn't a lack of femininity it is a lack of intelligence.  Kathryn's lame ass conversation with Rinna and the food was just further proof she has zero smarts.  Is it really any of her business if Rinna eats or not? 

 

Both Erika and Yolanda this constant auditioning or proving one's friendship is just an invitation for people to confirm their pre-conceived notions that people aren't true friends.  Quite honestly if someone had some friendship litmus test and timeline for friendships I would let them know when an opening came up on my friends list and advise them they have been wait listed.

 

Erika, who is not remotely bright, no matter how many times Yolanda or Eileen say she is, is operating from a deep place of denial.  Had Kathryn not done the big reveal of Erika's stated opinion of LVP, was there suppose to be some ah-ha moment where Erika could have turned to Kathryn and said -there is LVP and her from the side sharp shooting.  There is just no way what Erika said could have been misconstrued as being helpful or inoffensive.

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I wonder if production did the guest list and didn't want Yo there.  When she is present the talk migrates to her illness; there has been enough of that.  They got some good footage without that.  This goes for Kyle, too.  Split the friends for a different dynamic. 

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Not one of them has a right to talk about manners or class when they all swear like sailors (no offense to sailors!) on national television.  Ain't nothin' classy about the "F" word.  I am far from a prude and can certainly have a mouth on me with my best friend. But I would never use that kind of language in front of a crowd, let alone on tv.  Remember, these ladies are "working."  If most of us spoke like that at our jobs we would be fired.  Have some dignity, ladies!  And buy a thesaurus!

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I am team LVP/Kyle/LisaR all the way

This episode was great.

 

Erika is no match for LVP. Sorry charlie, take a seat next to your controlling husband and know your role. You are not the strong independent woman you think you are. 

 

I thought LisaR was a little hypocritical saying LVP made her say these things on camera- unless LVP is synonymous with production LOL. But she still chose to partake in the conversation. I loved her going off the rails and saying what everyone is thinking- Yolanda uses her illness as an excuse and exaggerates it. 

" I don't know anyone who has been in bed for 10 months" - loved every second of it. 

 

Also, it bothered me to know end that Kathryn antagonized Lisar multiple times about eating. Does she had a problem, who knows but if she did- giving Lisar so much shit about it is not helpful. I loved how Lisar shut her down. You go girl. 

These people have dinner parties every single day it seems maybe she just didn't want to eat or wasn't hungry. Either way, how inappropriate. What did Kathryn want from her- Lisa to bust out and say your right I dont eat !I

I think LISAR is especially concerned as she has teenage daughters she probably doesn't want accusations like that floating around. 

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Good for you. While I don't like how Tom likes to cut Erika off, I do think he sees her as more than a "trophy wife." I'm assuming he funds her singing career--paying for videos, trips, studio sessions, etc. So it does seem like he wants her to have her own life apart from just being his wife.

Honestly, he sat there for a good while and tried to interject only to be shhhh'd at his own table. So I give him a bit of a pass for shutting Erika down cause A) He sat through that bullshit for a bit B) I suspect he didn't want to be rude to anyone else at the table because THEY were guests and felt Erika was the only one he could express some of his frustration and C) SHE was interrupting HIM not too long after Kathryn shhhhh'd him so hello. I'd be a little snippy too if motherfuckers kept disrespecting me at my own table,  are holding me hostage to this childish crap and acting like I need permission to interject my feelings on the matter that's erupting in my damn house.

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Lastly, ALL OF YOU, stop fighting with each other at a gosh damned charity building project, you inconsiderate fucks. 

And shame on Eileen, shit stirrer extraordinaire, for pushing Erika to approach Kathryn there. Not the time or place. 

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My takeaways from last night: 

 

When Erika had her minions primping her, the only one they claimed to not know was LVP (who is she, the brunette?)  Intentional shade which just firms up my opinion that she came into filming with a plan to go head to head with LVP.  I know "jealousy" is a tired excuse, but here I think it fits.  Tom during the dinner party said something to the effect that LVP was his only worthy opponent on the planet.  Even if he said it as hyperbole, it still has to rankle Erika that he said it, and that Lisa actually is the strong, confident woman she portrays, and not just when she's dressed in a catsuit hundreds of miles away from her husband's shushing.

 

Eileen is really starting to bug me.  Fine if you want to be honest and out LVP's manipulation, but don't act like for a second you don't do the exact same things with Rinna that you're accusing LVP of doing.  She meddles in everyone's business and tells them to bring things up if they are bothered by them. Hypocrisy bugs me more than almost anything.

 

Lisa Rinna is so super flaky, but she does at least make the show interesting.  That said, if I were her friend in real life, she would be one of those "kept at arm's length" friends because I would never trust her with anything I really cared about getting out.

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Was Vyle wearing those high heeled sneakers on the construction site? Good choice on a ladder. I bet Mo shakes his head sometimes. 

 

The painting attire was a highlight for me! 

I thought a shingle breaking off in Kyle's hand was quite humorous.  She then managed to walk into the fray by announcing her fear of spiders.  Best part were the black handprints on her painter overalls.  Kyle and overalls a fashion disaster. 

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Some not-so-PC observations?

 

a) When you have any kind of an event IN YOUR HOME and you 'lose control' of the situation/talk and lead yourself to be humiliated in front of your guest/spouse?

You really DO NOT have the chops to host any kind of event in you abode.

EVERY dinner party on the HW shows turns into a fucking bare knuckles/take-no-prisoners event with someone pulling their pants down and taking a shit on the table and blaming it on someone else.

 

b) Keep your fucking mouth shut? Another way to shoot yourself in the foot is to open your mouth. The person you tell with take that grenade and hold on to it until the right moment - then pull the pin and drop it right in the middle of a group - maximum damage. (Eileen is the classic example of an someone who won't say anything unless it's on a script, written out for her? She knows how to circulate on the edges of a topic and not step on toes)

 

c) "if it's not moving ahead, it's probably dead" Just like the dead equine that people love to flog. THE FASTEST way to shut someone up is to 'agree' with someone. Kathryn is the perfect example of this tactic. She may think she is right because you agreed with them, but we all know better.

 

d) When you have people that are total assholes, like yoyo, go back at them and say, "You are sick all the time, I don't want to bother you......" when they DEMAND you be a better friend to them, than they are to you.

 

e) The husbands get more/less credit than they really deserve. David Foster, the tool that he is, should be commended for sticking with that fucking headcase for THAT long and good for him for bagging Selma Blair, Daddy Erica Jayne is a pompous ass wad who deserves any grief his wife and her flock of attendants bring him - if it isn't about her, it's not about anything. Harry Hamlin knows enough to stay in the shadows, not like Vince, he has a window in the garage...I don't like Mauricio or ken so I am not going to mention either.......

 

f) there is good real estate/food/clothing porn on the shows, but when people discuss price tags or bring up money? It's all just possessions and money. In the long run? You can't buy happiness, but you can rent an assload, but in the end? It's all about how you feel in your heart and head........there is no price tag on that?

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Could Tom Girardi BE a bigger, more pompous ass?  I say not!  Don't get me wrong. Kathryn was being a nightmare.  But the way he was shushing LisaV and his own wife? NOT COOL. It's becoming more and more apparent that the "image" of her husband and her marriage that Erika was attempting to portray is quite different from the reality of both.  I actually almost feel bad for her in a way. Except, she chose that life. So.

 

Floved LisaR spilling tea left and right on the beach. LisaR was US (well, most of us) last night with her "Yolanda is being a stealth bitch and hiding it behind her disease." Yes, girl, yes.

 

I don't agree with Eileen's take on Yolanda, but I respect her for shutting LisaR down in a mature, adult way on a topic she didn't want to engage in.

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Not one of them has a right to talk about manners or class when they all swear like sailors (no offense to sailors!) on national television. Ain't nothin' classy about the "F" word. I am far from a prude and can certainly have a mouth on me with my best friend. But I would never use that kind of language in front of a crowd, let alone on tv. Remember, these ladies are "working." If most of us spoke like that at our jobs we would be fired. Have some dignity, ladies! And buy a thesaurus!

Then how would we know how edgy they are?

Lisar is a truth cannon I can get behind. For all of her annoying fake laughter she does speak the truth and doesn't have to drink 2 bottles of wine to do it.

Elieen what are you doing ? You are squandering all of the viewers good will on Erika and Yo? I gave Erika a chance because you seemed to like her and I thought you were a good judge of character. Now I dislike you both.

I guess Kathryn shows that shit stirring is harder then it looks. Hope she is one and done.

Erika , your husband doesn't like you.

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Bravo, lets get to Dubai already. Please don't make me suffer through Yolanda smugly accepting a Lime Disease award before getting to the good stuff. If anything Yolanda has made a mockery of the illness. The only thing Yolanda is worthy of being an Ambassador of is anal fissures. She is such a pain in the ass.

 

Where the hell was this crazy, loud, over talking, argumentative Kathryn when Faye ethered her ass with indifference earlier this season? She let a 20 year grudge slip away with a non-apology that wasn't even directed towards her and sat there like a deer in the headlights. Not enough courage juice?

 

Good lawd, Erika needs 3 people to get ready for a catered dinner party at her house? This isn't the Oscars or her wedding day. Her daily upkeep bills must be astronomical. 

 

I look back on Erika's earlier TH about how she is entitled to half and laugh.

 

The HW's behavior at the Habitat for Humanity house was appalling.  I was secretly hoping that Jimmy Carter would drive by in his secret service detail and throw paint rollers at them.

 

There was a scene in the episode where LisaR pursed her lips - I actually recoiled in horror. It was like a prolapse in motion. 

 

This was a really good, jammed back episode.

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I had to laugh at yo talking about picking up her award in NY. Daddy Warbucks and Eri-cnta were flying her out to do so. So, the glo-bull lime peeps didn't want to spring for the first class ticket for yo and daisy - so they step in to fly her on the private jet?

I get the idea that EG only befriended yo because of David and his music connections? If she is still as pal-sy now that DF had gone bye-bye?

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I don't agree with Eileen's take on Yolanda, but I respect her for shutting LisaR down in a mature, adult way on a topic she didn't want to engage in.

But doesn't it make you wonder where all that mature, adult behavior was hiding when Eileen was helplessly pinned by the barrage of LisaV's brutal interrogation about the affair that preceded Eileen's marriage to Vince? :-)

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Also loved when Erika was telling Kyle that her husband was angry at her  and then it showed Kyle's TH saying Mauricio would never tell her what she can and can't say..."trust me".  She took the words right of my mouth because I was thinking the same thing that very moment about my husband.  Let him ever try to shush me or tell me what I can or can't say and how I should or shouldn't act.  That would NEVER happen!  lol

I am a Democrat and DH is a Republican.  I have absolutely no intention of voting for Hillary Clinton, but then DH had to open his mouth and say "You better not be voting for Hillary."  Damn!  Now what am I supposed to do?  Vote for her because he told me not to?!?  (I told him I wasn't planning to, but NOT because he told me not to!)

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Random thoughts on the episode:

 

Erica and Katherine - I see them both being one season HWs, ala Joyce, Carlton, and that woman who I can't remember her name and am too lazy to google - her father in law was a Zanuck. I like Erica slightly better than Katherine but that's like asking if you want to be shot or poisoned.

 

Who the hell wears white overalls to paint and work on a house? I didn't even notice the shoes because I was so fixated that Kyle wore white.

 

So is Daisy a health care advocate or more like Rocio? (not spelled right I'm sure - LVP's maid) Do health care advocates make lattes? If so, I need to get me one.

 

I loved Eileen last season but this season between her not letting go of the thing with LVP and now seeing her in kind of a shit stirring light I'm having doubts about her. And I hate that. I enjoyed the scene on the beach - Malibu? - such a gorgeous place. I can kind of relate to LisaR since I've been a people pleaser too and you do get easily manipulated. Hopefully she'll start standing up to LVP and still keep the friendship.

 

The less Yo the better for me. Her FaceTime to Erica from the sick bed was too much.

 

Don't need to see Katherine's ear doctor visits. The only interesting thing from that scene was that her doctor's name is Dr. House - I laughed at that.

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Ketzel, on 09 Mar 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

But doesn't it make you wonder where all that mature, adult behavior was hiding when Eileen was helplessly pinned by the barrage of LisaV's brutal interrogation about the affair that preceded Eileen's marriage to Vince? :-)

 

Has Eileen made too much of that incident? Yes

 

But I thought that she handled herself just fine when the incident was actually happening  It's not like she pulled a Teresa G and flipped a table - or even a Lisa R and smashed a wine glass in anger!  She just kind of tensed up and didn't say much.  I don't see that as childish or immature at all.  At least compared to other housewives' behavior over the years!

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I am in total agreement that Erika and her husband had a very tense conversation after that dinner party and that is why she was so upset the next day. The Erika that we'd been shown up to that point would've played along with LVP's jokes about the "web". Clearly LVP was making light of it & she was the offended party. I think at that point LVP may have still wanted to attempt to forge a friendship with Erika.

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Who the hell wears white overalls to paint and work on a house? I didn't even notice the shoes because I was so fixated that Kyle wore white.

 

Um, professional painters.  Anybody else looks odd. I also thought it odd that Lisa V wore 2"+ heeled boots or mules, I couldn't really tell from the back. They all looked a bit off.

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Um, professional painters.  Anybody else looks odd. I also thought it odd that Lisa V wore 2"+ heeled boots or mules, I couldn't really tell from the back. They all looked a bit off.

 

Yes true - but Kyle's were probably designer overalls. :) Yes agreed on the shoes/boots whatever - not real practical for house building and ladder climbing.

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I had to laugh at yo talking about picking up her award in NY. Daddy Warbucks and Eri-cnta were flying her out to do so. So, the glo-bull lime peeps didn't want to spring for the first class ticket for yo and daisy - so they step in to fly her on the private jet?

I get the idea that EG only befriended yo because of David and his music connections? If she is still as pal-sy now that DF had gone bye-bye?

This is an interesting blog about that award. It appears that the wealthy families of the 3 "Award" winners paid for the gala itself, hence they bought the award for them IMO. LOL  http://tamaratattles.com/2015/10/08/rhobh-fly-to-nyc-for-a-uniting-for-a-lyme-free-world-gala-to-honor-yolanda-foster/#

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Loved Erika telling Kyle that Yo's head was swollen.  Great visual on that one.  Is Erika that stupid?  Entire heads don't swell.  

 

Give Yoyo time and it will.

Yes true - but Kyle's were probably designer overalls. Yes on the shoes.

 

Oh yeah I saw they were!  They were all playing dress up and the last thing they really wanted to do was break a sweat and have their makeup melt off.

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Has Eileen made too much of that incident? Yes

 

But I thought that she handled herself just fine when the incident was actually happening  It's not like she pulled a Teresa G and flipped a table - or even a Lisa R and smashed a wine glass in anger!  She just kind of tensed up and didn't say much.  I don't see that as childish or immature at all.  At least compared to other housewives' behavior over the years!

It wasn't so much her behavior that night when Lisa questioned her, it was that she refused to politely shut down the conversation then and there and that refuses to move on because Lisa's 3 apologies aren't good enough for her. LOL

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Also, it bothered me to know end that Kathryn antagonized Lisar multiple times about eating. Does she had a problem, who knows but if she did- giving Lisar so much shit about it is not helpful. I loved how Lisar shut her down. You go girl. 

These people have dinner parties every single day it seems maybe she just didn't want to eat or wasn't hungry. Either way, how inappropriate. What did Kathryn want from her- Lisa to bust out and say your right I dont eat !I

I think LISAR is especially concerned as she has teenage daughters she probably doesn't want accusations like that floating around. 

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And I'm really going to need her to stop talking about Rinna's eating habits. It's so gross. It's not like she's a close family member or friend, who's pulling her aside out of concern. No she's just loudly laughing to the catering staff, "Don't bother to offer a crab puff to this bitch, because she doesn't eat". So fucking tacky. Does Lisar restrict her food to a degree? Probably. But Kathryn doesn't know that for sure. She doesn't live with her. It's none of her business. It's not like she truly cares. She just wants to be right about something and make a joke out of it. It's really pissing me off.

 

 

100% agree.  I was actually impressed that Rinna did not get more upset about this, especially given that this is the second time that Kathryn has made these comments, and she would not.let.it.go.   I doubt I would have been able to maintain my composure so well or even attempt to laugh it off as Rinna did.   A person can maintain a low body weight without having an eating disorder.   Eating disorders are a serious mental illnesses that cause a person a lot distress.  Obviously, Rinna keeps a close eye on what she eats and how much she works out, but to assume that she does so in a way that is pathological is unfair.  Furthermore, if you do suspect someone of having an eating disorder, on what planet do you think mocking it is ok?  Classless, tactless, and idiotic.

 

(I also hate that Kathryn calls the Lisas by their last names.    I know it's confusing with two of them, but the way she does it feels overly familiar to me. Even though I'm doing it....)

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I'm getting a kick of how Katherine for the second time tells us who she is, how tough and persuasive she is, and fails to rise to the occasion. First time was with Fay at Kyles party and this time at Erica's boasting about her argumentative prowess.

 

Snort and chuckle.

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Being a house/handyman porn fan? I was hoping to see them wield some REAL tool and BUILD a house. (the fights with HWs holding hammers, screwdrivers and crowbars would have been epic - Like a Game of Thrones visits Watts episode?)

 

Habitat for Humanity does stellar work with people who can't afford homes on their own. Families who want to work on the home while it is being built or rehabbed put in sweat equity to offset the costs and to make them invest in a home that they will live in and eventually own.. People that put effort into something tend to want to take care of it, as opposed to people who rent and don't GAF about how a place looks or functions while they live there? That part of the show bothered me because HfH isn't just a bunch of overdressed AHs arguing on the property?

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GHOULINA, ON 09 MAR 2016 - 08:34 AM, SAID:

And I'm really going to need her to stop talking about Rinna's eating habits. It's so gross. It's not like she's a close family member or friend, who's pulling her aside out of concern. No she's just loudly laughing to the catering staff, "Don't bother to offer a crab puff to this bitch, because she doesn't eat". So fucking tacky. Does Lisar restrict her food to a degree? Probably. But Kathryn doesn't know that for sure. She doesn't live with her. It's none of her business. It's not like she truly cares. She just wants to be right about something and make a joke out of it. It's really pissing me off.

 

100% agree.  I was actually impressed that Rinna did not get more upset about this, especially given that this is the second time that Kathryn has made these comments, and she would not.let.it.go.   I doubt I would have been able to maintain my composure so well or even attempt to laugh it off as Rinna did.   A person can maintain a low body weight without having an eating disorder.   Eating disorders are a serious mental illnesses that cause a person a lot distress.  Obviously, Rinna keeps a close eye on what she eats and how much she works out, but to assume that she does so in a way that is pathological is unfair.  Furthermore, if you do suspect someone of having an eating disorder, on what planet do you think mocking it is ok?  Classless, tactless, and idiotic.

 

(I also hate that Kathryn calls the Lisas by their last names.    I know it's confusing with two of them, but the way she does it feels overly familiar to me.)

 

"Maybe if your father had lived he could have taught you some manners. Hurts doesn't it. So knock it off!"

 

After the second time and you can't din it into her  pull the wax plug out of her good ear and give her a new earful each and every time. She'll stop.

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Bravo, lets get to Dubai already.

 

Yes, please!  I'm really looking forward to that because I had a chance to visit there a couple of years ago.  Suck it Kyle and Erika - I've been to Dubai and I don't even have your money or private planes!

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So is Daisy a health care advocate or more like Rocio?

Do you remember the Duke heiress who had a "butler" who took care of her and gave her medicines? And he somehow got her to sign over everything to him when she died....and ooops, she died!!

I think it's that kind of thing, personally. Watch your back, Yo!!

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What stood out for me this week was Yo ragging on Kyle for not supporting her, and then expecting her to fly across the country to watch her get an award.  Kyle seemed noncommittal about going.  She could easily come up with an excuse but she'll probably have to go.

 

I still like Erika.  I love looking at her and I like the way she speaks.  That whole spider-web thing -- did she actually say that about LVP?  I remember her saying "she comes at you from the side" -- meaning "indirectly".  To me, that doesn't mean Erika thinks LVP is a sneak, but that she's not always direct, she holds back -- not manipulative but circumspect.  There's a difference.

 

Not sure how I feel about Tom shushing her but I like that she didn't take offense in front of the guests -- she may well have said something to him later.  I think Tom might want people to know that he's not pussy-whipped (pun intended).  He might also feel insecure about Erika being on national TV, getting so much attention.  The ErikaJane persona has a limited audience.

Kathryn is an idiot.  "You didn't tell me not to repeat our conversations.  You have to tell me when something is just between us."  She's such a slob.

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Being a house/handyman porn fan? I was hoping to see them wield some REAL tool and BUILD a house. (the fights with HWs holding hammers, screwdrivers and crowbars would have been epic - Like a Game of Thrones visits Watts episode?)

 

Habitat for Humanity does stellar work with people who can't afford homes on their own. Families who want to work on the home while it is being built or rehabbed put in sweat equity to offset the costs and to make them invest in a home that they will live in and eventually own.. People that put effort into something tend to want to take care of it, as opposed to people who rent and don't GAF about how a place looks or functions while they live there? That part of the show bothered me because HfH isn't just a bunch of overdressed AHs arguing on the property?

Hopefully, Evolution Media kicked in another $5,000.00 to film.  It was nice seeing Donnie and Mauricio (I know you don't like him) towing the line.  Ten houses a year is a big deal.  Of course with Yolanda's missing superior physical and mental prowess the return of their labor was diminished.  I was proud of the ladies that they didn't get into a paint fight.  I was thinking is Erika going to flip that load of paint on her brush at LVP.  A nail gun fight might have been interesting between Kathryn and Erika with Eileen getting caught in the cross-fire.

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Totally appreciated seeing Donnie several times over,it almost makes it worth putting up with Kathryn.

So... Yo is getting an award in NYC and she's planning on being there and not planning on being sick that day. Got it? Everyone show up. I liked how she told Kyle that she and Erika are flying together, in other words... hey Kyle, you're not worth my jet fuel!

A pox on the editors of the promos for making it seem like a genuine confrontation took place and not the usual cattiness. This season was a dud.

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I'm chiming in with those who think something less than wonderful is going on between Erika and Tom. Their contract must state that Erika doesn't get one penny until Tom is dead and gone, divorce or not - otherwise wouldn't she high-tail it outta there?!

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What stood out for me this week was Yo ragging on Kyle for not supporting her, and then expecting her to fly across the country to watch her get an award.  Kyle seemed noncommittal about going.  She could easily come up with an excuse but she'll probably have to go.

 

I still like Erika.  I love looking at her and I like the way she speaks.  That whole spider-web thing -- did she actually say that about LVP?  I remember her saying "she comes at you from the side" -- meaning "indirectly".  To me, that doesn't mean Erika thinks LVP is a sneak, but that she's not always direct, she holds back -- not manipulative but circumspect.  There's a difference.

 

Not sure how I feel about Tom shushing her but I like that she didn't take offense in front of the guests -- she may well have said something to him later.  I think Tom might want people to know that he's not pussy-whipped (pun intended).  He might also feel insecure about Erika being on national TV, getting so much attention.  The ErikaJane persona has a limited audience.

Kathryn is an idiot.  "You didn't tell me not to repeat our conversations.  You have to tell me when something is just between us."  She's such a slob.

She actually said that LisaV is a "sniper" and that she "shoots from the side" and that is NOT a compliment and YES, it does mean that she thinks Lisa is sneaky. Also, in her TH, she agree that although Kathryn used different words/analogy, that it WAS what she meant. Then in the conversation between her, Yolanda and Eileen, she agreed that Lisa WAS manipulative.

 

As for her husband "shushing her", IMO, it DID bother her. She looked embarrassed and hurt but not surprised.

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Give Yoyo time and it will.

 

Oh yeah I saw they were!  They were all playing dress up and the last thing they really wanted to do was break a sweat and have their makeup melt off.

 

 

Ha ha ha ha! @ Yo.   I love to see the clothes yet often yearn to see them in a pony tail, jeans and a T.  This would have been the perfect opportunity. 

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Ha ha ha ha! @ Yo. I love to see the clothes yet often yearn to see them in a pony tail, jeans and a T. This would have been the perfect opportunity.

Really, they wasted this opportunity - Kyle and Lisa V look best dressed in jeans (without heels and bling) imo, and the others probably do too. Edited by nexxie
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I am team LVP/Kyle/LisaR all the way

This episode was great.

 

Erika is no match for LVP. Sorry charlie, take a seat next to your controlling husband and know your role. You are not the strong independent woman you think you are. 

 

I thought LisaR was a little hypocritical saying LVP made her say these things on camera- unless LVP is synonymous with production LOL. But she still chose to partake in the conversation. I loved her going off the rails and saying what everyone is thinking- Yolanda uses her illness as an excuse and exaggerates it. 

" I don't know anyone who has been in bed for 10 months" - loved every second of it. 

 

Also, it bothered me to know end that Kathryn antagonized Lisar multiple times about eating. Does she had a problem, who knows but if she did- giving Lisar so much shit about it is not helpful. I loved how Lisar shut her down. You go girl. 

These people have dinner parties every single day it seems maybe she just didn't want to eat or wasn't hungry. Either way, how inappropriate. What did Kathryn want from her- Lisa to bust out and say your right I dont eat !I

I think LISAR is especially concerned as she has teenage daughters she probably doesn't want accusations like that floating around. 

No different than Rinna taking the lead on confronting Kim about her mental health condition. Eating disorders are second in lethality to addiction in psychiatric illness.

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There is something wrong with Kathryn's social skills.  She has none.  I don't think she is smart - at all. She and Donnie are like Dumb and Dumber. But at least he isn't offensive and off-putting to the people around him. 

 

Donnie is eye candy. How staged was the scene of him coming out of the dressing room without his shirt.  

 

I think LVP was happy to have an ally until Kathryn opened her trap at Erika's dinner.  Then LVP was probably thinking, "Great - another nut."

 

I really think Erika was trying to imitate Tom's analogy to the alligator.  She's just not as adept with words as he is.

 

Rinna is happy to sell anyone down the river for a storyline.  But she does LOVE LVP!

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Do you remember the Duke heiress who had a "butler" who took care of her and gave her medicines? And he somehow got her to sign over everything to him when she died....and ooops, she died!!

I think it's that kind of thing, personally. Watch your back, Yo!!

This. I would be willing to bet a case of Diet Sprite that Daisy's presence was the last straw in the Foster marriage. 

 

Wish they had played the video call between Erika and Yolanda right when Lisar said on the beach that Yolanda might be the most manipulative person she knows. Yolanda was in FULL on "cue the violins" in her staged white robe dark eyes sing songy voice. She makes her body look one way- then makes her voice like sunshine as a paradox to get the attention she needs. 

 

I think the Munchausen by Proxy is the attention she needs to make up from what she was losing from David Foster. I too think Yolanda is a very sick individual Lisar! 

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I don't know, there might be something to the swollen face story

 

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Was Vyle wearing those high heeled sneakers on the construction site? Good choice on a ladder. I bet Mo shakes his head sometimes. 

 

The painting attire was a highlight for me! 

Who the hell wears 'high heeled sneakers' anywhere?

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Lisar is very well aware of what she is doing. She didn't have that conversation on the beach by accident.

 

Lisa Rinna is the perfect combination of controlled s*** for the housewives franchise.  And I still don't know if that makes me like her or not.  

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I understand Yo being exhausted after spending the day with Kim and Brandi. Listening to Kim ramble about how sober she was at the Beverly Hills Hotel or wherever she was caught not drinking would tire anyone out.

 

Plus as with wonky editing, we aren't seeing this scene until next week? So Rinna by bringing it up on the beach outs the out of sequence editing game the producers play.

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I don't know, there might be something to the swollen face story

 

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Who the hell wears 'high heeled sneakers' anywhere?

 

Is there a link with this pic so we know when it was taken?   Looks like it is taken a day after fillers.  We saw her on the phone when talking to Erika, she looked the normal.   

 

I stand by my guess that production arranged the dinner and Yo was not included on purpose.  She called with a planned excuse. She had been out to lunch earlier that day with Brandi and Kim and she looked just fine in that pic. 

 

The one here is hideous.  Could be meds from some treatment causing this.   ???

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