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[Sweetpea4Utoo]

I hate this show more every day. 

[Skarzero]

1 hour ago, Sweetpea4Utoo said:

I hate this show more every day. 

Of course you do, You're a normal, sane person. Unlike the people writing this shit. 

[Anna Yolei]

On 4/13/2022 at 7:10 PM, Skarzero said:

 I guess Sheila "saving" Taylor's life means she probably won't give a damn that she set up Brooke to drink.

Do you really think Taylor would care anyway?

On 4/14/2022 at 4:06 AM, Aymery said:

I've long said that RJ should be bisexual, which to my knowledge none of the soaps have done with a legacy character.

There was Bianca from one of the ABC shows, but IIRC, it was less an intentionally bisexual character and more a 2000s typical  revision to wipe the gay awat. I'm only aware from 3rd hand knowledge that came up in discussion in the ATWT circle when Luke/Noah were a thing, so I'm not up on the details.

Regardless, I continue to be stunned that RJ, the literal namesake for the show's leading man and the only Bridge child, continues to have less story than even poor Emma did. I wouldn't hold my breath on him being made queer in any way, but you'd think at the bare minimum he'd had been the one at the apex of a triangle over, say, Liam.

[Waldo13]

15 hours ago, Sweetpea4Utoo said:

I hate this show more every day. 

TIIC have taken this show in a complete different direction. All Bold but no longer Beautiful. All dark drama all day everyday. It’s time to bring back the fashion shows, photoshoots, and fantastic locations. 

[RuntheTable]

She saved me, she really saved me!

And so the Sheila/Taylor love affair begins. Taylor is simply too stupid for words. If Sheila hadn't been playin on the fucking ledge, then you would not have gone over it. And for someone who is supposed to be so introspective and a brilliant reader of other people; how does Taylor not see that she is the only person who has given Sheila an inch, so of course Sheila was gonna save her dumb ass. If Sheila had let Taylor die she would be a hunk of chum in a sea of hungry, angry sharks. 

And just watch; Ridge will be all in. Brooke tried to get him to back off of Deacon, who is not a homicidal maniac, and who just wanted to have some type of relationship with his daughter. Ridge wouldn't budge; declaring Deacon the scourge of the earth. But since it is Doc, the smart one, telling him that Sheila has changed, and just lookie how she saved my life Ridge!, he will roll over in agreement. 

I will enjoy watching both their stupid assed faces crack when they learn Sheila tried to gun down their precious little princess. 

I am not at all convinced Thomas will be riding the Sheila redemption train. I am hoping that he will confess to Brooke and tell her he suspects Sheila was involved in the shooting. So of course it will never happen. 

I also like Paris's new do. It does make her seem more um......proportionate. It also brings out her really lovely and quite beautiful eyes. 

Liam needs to buy a clue and learn to read the room. How many times do you think you can talk about how you cannot lose another woman without your current woman getting a case of the ass? Just sayin. 

[ByaNose]

I wonder if Eric knows that his granddaughter has been, like, um, shot?!?!? WTH? 

[Crashcourse]

I wish Paris' braids were shorter, because those long ass braids look like they could drag in somebody's food, or she could be sitting on a blanket in a park and they could be dragging in dirt.  Even if she tied them up, that'd be a whole lot of stuff on her head.   So, I think they look.....stupid. 

[MsTree]

9 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I wish Paris' braids were shorter, because those long ass braids look like they could drag in somebody's food, or she could be sitting on a blanket in a park and they could be dragging in dirt.  Even if she tied them up, that'd be a whole lot of stuff on her head.   So, I think they look.....stupid. 

I couldn't agree more. Unless she's auditioning for the part of Rapunzel, they should be at least half that length.

[Aymery]

18 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

TIIC have taken this show in a complete different direction. All Bold but no longer Beautiful. All dark drama all day everyday. It’s time to bring back the fashion shows, photoshoots, and fantastic locations. 

Well, I'd disagree that it's even Bold anymore. Even the "shock twist" of a parent killing their own son has already played out, albeit in different circumstances, on Y&R a few years ago when Paul Williams had to shoot his own son Ricky (whose mother had been played by Eva Longoria!) to protect the young woman he was trying to kill, and Ricky crashed through the window and fell to his death. 

The only remotely "daring" story B&B have done in recent years was Maya being revealed to be trans, marrying the son of the show's veteran couple, and having an active sex life onscreen. Even that was tempered by the fact that they cast a cis actress in the role. IMO, they were bolder in the '90s when we had stories like Jake having been molested by his uncle, Dylan trying to pay for college by working as a stripper (and getting propositioned for sex), Caroline's rape which gave her lasting trauma, Stephanie inducing Morgan's abortion, young toddler Steffy "dying" (really kidnapped by a deranged Morgan), and many more. 

On 4/16/2022 at 3:48 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Do you really think Taylor would care anyway?

There was Bianca from one of the ABC shows, but IIRC, it was less an intentionally bisexual character and more a 2000s typical  revision to wipe the gay awat. I'm only aware from 3rd hand knowledge that came up in discussion in the ATWT circle when Luke/Noah were a thing, so I'm not up on the details.

Regardless, I continue to be stunned that RJ, the literal namesake for the show's leading man and the only Bridge child, continues to have less story than even poor Emma did. I wouldn't hold my breath on him being made queer in any way, but you'd think at the bare minimum he'd had been the one at the apex of a triangle over, say, Liam.

And speaking of bold storylines, who can forget the infamous AMC threesome. This was about 20 years ago. And more recently they toyed with the idea of a gay threesome on GH but never went through with it. So clearly, soaps in general are less daring now. 

It's funny you mention Luke/Noah on ATWT, because the show/CBS was so terrified of having them be intimate on screen due to a pressure campaign by a conservative group. They finally gave in, but here we are years later and a soap on the same network, set in a fashion world doesn't even have gay men, let alone sexually active ones! (Also an amusing side note: Kim Zimmer's son was playing Luke when they wanted to have the character come out. She put her foot down, and the role was recast. Flash forward, Kim's son is playing gay on Animal Kingdom, with way more explicit sex scenes than anything CBS would've permitted on ATWT.)

But yeah, I cannot understand why they don't at least feature RJ in some capacity, instead of the umpteenth retread of Steffy/Hope/Liam. Obviously those three are not going anywhere, they are being positioned as the young leads. But let them settle into some level of maturity (who am I kidding, their parents have not after 30+ years). The possibilities are there though. Give Steffy a health-based issue, perhaps a consequence of the shooting (paralysis? PTSD?). Give Liam and Hope a story about their children - Beth being autistic? Another baby that has some genetic disorder discovered in-utero? Not everything needs to be a love triangle. The most recent memorable storylines for me were Stephanie's cancer/return to Skid Row, Maya being trans, Katie's heart transplant/PPD, to a lesser extent the baby switch. None of those were romantic stories (save Maya's). Clearly they can do good work when they're not bogged down with flogging the love triangles of Bridge or Lope/Steam.

[Anna Yolei]

On 4/17/2022 at 5:29 AM, Aymery said:

It's funny you mention Luke/Noah on ATWT, because the show/CBS was so terrified of having them be intimate on screen due to a pressure campaign by a conservative group.

Oh GOD, I remember the counter we had until they've be allowed to kiss on screen. I remember that 2nd kiss where the camera panned up to some mistletoe and TWoP was rightfully up in arms.

Meanwhile, we got to see Jack and Katie bang at her job and Dusty and Janet swap spit. Joy. 😒

On 4/17/2022 at 5:29 AM, Aymery said:

Not everything needs to be a love triangle.

The biggest reason why I was a fan of Tridge when I started watching was specifically because they seemed to have their collective shit together. Thanks to HTy's demands against depicting divorce, TIIC couldn't have them sit up every other week, so they had to be creative with the conflicts. The first episode of B&B I watched ended with Taylor finding a homeless man under the house from whom she contracted tuberculosis from...while pregnant with the twins. Now, I'd come for Amber's baby drama, but that was the story that did a lot to keep me hooked that summer.

Thats been my biggest problem with the ToD 2.0: until fairly recently, we've never had the chance to develop the individual pairings enough to have any investment in who Liam ended up with. I actually felt something when Lope split up in 2019 since we'd gotten to see how they'd work together with Steffy or Bill or Wyatt coming between them and the two got some other conflict that wasn't about Steffy's cooch. And as I type this, I realize they weren't even the weak link in that story, but the five stooges who just sat around for six months talking down at least one of the others from spilling the beans....but as we've been reminded with Brooke a drinking, that's a B&B specialty.

But it was a real, honest to God conflict grounded in reality that as destroyed couple with a more solid base than Lope ever had. Which is why the mannequin thing pissed me off more than all of Liam's other times she went bouncing back to Steffy. Both SC and AN are capable for the task and even JMW seemed a bit more engaged than usual in her scenes with Sheila and the drug addiction story. 

Edited April 19, 2022 by Anna Yolei

[Anna Yolei]

19 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I wish Paris' braids were shorter, because those long ass braids look like they could drag in somebody's food, or she could be sitting on a blanket in a park and they could be dragging in dirt.  Even if she tied them up, that'd be a whole lot of stuff on her head.   So, I think they look.....stupid. 

Speaking as a black woman, while I personally wouldn't get braids that long myself, there's a lot of ways to mitigate a lot of that. Putting it in a bun is not nearly as difficult as one may think it to be.

[Crashcourse]

1 hour ago, Anna Yolei said:

Speaking as a black woman, while I personally wouldn't get braids that long myself, there's a lot of ways to mitigate a lot of that. Putting it in a bun is not nearly as difficult as one may think it to be.

Yeah, but in her case, that's a whole lot of bun to put on top of her head.  Actually, I'd like to see her do it. 

[Angeleyes]

5 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Yeah, but in her case, that's a whole lot of bun to put on top of her head.  Actually, I'd like to see her do it. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaOFKnIvcDN/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Edited April 18, 2022 by Angeleyes

[Crashcourse]

Well, it's nice she can actually wear a bun without getting a massive headache, but I still think that's too much hair to be dragging around. 

ETA:  I just looked her up and she's only 23, so no wonder she comes off as so young.  'Cause she is! 🙄

Edited April 18, 2022 by Crashcourse

[Waldo13]

Has there ever been a more pompous ass hole than Ridge?  No, but I’m sure there is going to be more to come that will continue to prove this fact. 

Yes Zende, Carter knows Pairs very well he even has carnal knowledge of Paris 😉. The heart wants what the heart wants and Paris’ heart doesn’t want Zende. Marring someone who loves you but you don’t really love in return doesn’t work out too well. Even with Nicole and Zende, two people who supposedly loved each other the marriage was over in about a year. 

Chief Hotdog, your are such a dumb ass. You should be trying to talk to Stuffy yourself instead of listening to Ridge and Taylor. 

[Gam2]

Did we ever find out what happened to KKL’s son? I googled all over the place but couldn’t find anything.

[CountryGirl]

Carter, quit telling Paris who she should be with. Ditto for Zende with his determination to marry her. That is up to her, you dolts.

I still do not see the issue with them being involved. He was single and she and Zende had agreed to see other people. 

[Angeleyes]

2 hours ago, Gam2 said:

Did we ever find out what happened to KKL’s son? I googled all over the place but couldn’t find anything.

He appeared in the adult film industry under an assumed name, but his real identity eventually came out. It caused a scandal because he is the child of a famous actor and because he had appeared on B&B when he was younger. 

[Snaporaz]

It was refreshing to hear Ridge point out the obvious to his half-wit ex, that her life would not have needed saving in the first place if it weren't for Sheila.  I guess he's not as dumb as we thought!  Now if only he'd thank Deacon for, you know, actually saving Steffy's life.

[RuntheTable]

Imma bout done with all this Sheila sympathizing nonsense. People need to get woke. This is Sheila Carter. Nuff said. 

What? Is this 1850 or something? Carter, my man, it doesn't matter what Zende wants; it matters what Paris wants. 

Ridge surprised me. He really did. I totally expected him to be all in since Sheila saved Doc. Maybe he is remembering those hot flames in the foundry. 

[CharlizeCat]

I cannot believe how dumb "Doc" is. Really? Absolutely. If Sheila hadn't been on the roof, Taylor would have never been in jeopardy. I am kind of surprised Ridge didn't ask," Why didn't you let her jump?"

Taylor looked almost starry-eyed when discussing the incident of Sheila saving her life. I wish Taylor had fallen and dragged Sheila over the edge with her. Sheila/KB used to be one of my favorites back in the day, but her shelf life has long expired. It's time to either kill the character off permanently or sentence her to life in prison without the possibility of parole. 

Paris, Zende, and Carter are all too cringeworthy for words. Granted, I am not around many 20-somethings, but it strikes me that these days, few men in their '20s are hell-bent on getting married. And what is this? Some arranged marriage? Not only is this SL antiquated and unrealistic, but misogynistic. Paris may be young, naïve, and stupid, but she as she pointed out, she's a grown woman and can make her own decisions. I just don't think Carter is the best choice. 

Maybe now that Quinn knows what's going on, the SL will swerve into a more interesting direction, but I doubt it. Although I don't want to put this in Brad Bell's ear, even having a (recast) Nicole come back would stir things up and make it a little more interesting. We don't even know if Zende is legally divorced (assuming he is) or what broke up his marriage. 

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

Paris, Zende, and Carter are all too cringeworthy for words. Granted, I am not around many 20-somethings, but it strikes me that these days, few men in their '20s are hell-bent on getting married.

In retrospect, that was the one saving grace of the original ToD: even if it was only Steffy pointing out how asburd it was that Hope wanted to get married before she could she could legally drink at most of her weddings and for obvious self-serving reasons, at least someone said what the audience was thinking.

This show has always been like this, even back when I was a teenager watching Rick and CJ both battle it out to raise a baby with Amber that neither of them fathered. Even though that was more compellingly written than most things today, it's so far removed from any reality of Beverly Hills/Bel Air/Elite Los Angeles that if I didn't know any better, I'd swear Brad Bell had never set foot in that city, much less was born and raised there.

This is why most people under 30 laugh at soaps and consider them out of touch.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Anna Yolei

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

Although I don't want to put this in Brad Bell's ear, even having a (recast) Nicole come back would stir things up and make it a little more interesting. We don't even know if Zende is legally divorced (assuming he is) or what broke up his marriage

It's so odd to me that absolutely none of that has ever once been touched upon or used in forming Zende's still bland character. The current guy isn't as dull as the last actor but he gets nothing to work with.

I suppose Nicole would be tolerable this time around since Paris took her Mary Sue crown and hopefully would be played by an actress that won't make JMW look animated in comparison. But knowing these jokers, they'd find a way to squander that too.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Anna Yolei

[Lilac2000]

This Steffy thinks she's still married to Liam storyline is beyond stupid. JMW and SC must just want to barf when they read their scripts. 

[norcalgal]

29 minutes ago, Lilac2000 said:

This Steffy thinks she's still married to Liam storyline is beyond stupid. JMW and SC must just want to barf when they read their scripts. 

Ruh roh...for the Day of Our Lives watchers, this has shades of the execrable, stupid Sarahnee storyline  (someone who had romantic feelings towards her ex - a now married man - because she thought she was someone else). Trust me, the Sarahnee storyline on DOOL was all kinds of stupid!

[CountryGirl]

15 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

It was refreshing to hear Ridge point out the obvious to his half-wit ex, that her life would not have needed saving in the first place if it weren't for Sheila.  I guess he's not as dumb as we thought!  Now if only he'd thank Deacon for, you know, actually saving Steffy's life.

I prefer to think of it as the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" phenomenon. 

[CountryGirl]

TPTB are just "mean, mean, mean" (TM DOOL's Susan Banks) with giving us those Quarter moments, which had a million times more spark and heat and angst than one million viewings of Carter and Paris getting busy.

To add insult to injury, we have the BLECH! that is the ToD being dusted off and pulled free from the mothballs where it should have stayed, never to see the light of day or our TV screens again. 

Queue the internal screaming. 

[lightninggirl]

2 hours ago, Lilac2000 said:

This Steffy thinks she's still married to Liam storyline is beyond stupid. JMW and SC must just want to barf when they read their scripts. 

I'm going to be honest and say that I'm ALL for it. I don't care who goes where and does what to whom, that dumb box of rocks posing as a doctor is GONE. They could reanimate Darla's corpse and bring her back as Stuffy's love interest at this point, and I'd still be thrilled that they killed Finn off. Whoo hoo!

[Waldo13]

Chief Hotdog is really doing his job by allowing Ridge to question Stuffy instead of doing it himself. Kudos Chief Hotdog kudos. I guess he rather be a Dodger Stadium eating Dodger Dogs than questioning Stuffy. 

What a load of 🐂💩.  Ridge asks why she and Finn were in the ally but she doesn’t ask who is Finn. Than later Stuffy knows it’s her father but thinks Liam is her husband.  Now how long are TIIC going to let this happen without Stuffy being correct?  

Carter you are heading towards ass hat status. You can’t take Paris away from Zende but you are still in the frame of mind to take Quinn away from Eric.  But to Carter’s credit, I would choose Quinn over Paris in a heartbeat. 

[CharlizeCat]

Carter is such an indecisive wuss. So, now, all of this time while he's been boinking Paris, he's actually been pining away for Quinn? I thought he "loved" Paris? I couldn't ever fully buy his immediate switch from a "woman" with a capital W to a naïve, too-young girlish.

Carter needs to move far, far away from L.A. and get some serious therapy.

However, it would be so delicious that if after Carter has dumped Paris, that he gets back together with Quinn! Talk about karma.

I thought Brooke was just being an insecure meddling mother today when she kept insisting that Hope go into Steffy's hospital room with Liam, but she was on the money. Hope should never, ever let her guard down around Steffy as far as Liam is concerned, even when Finn was still alive. 

I wish that the writers would quickly wrap this Sheila/Ridge/Taylor/Brooke/Steffy/Liam mess up and move on to something else. Quarter. Anything with $Bill. More Deacon. I am curious to see how the writers plan to handle JMW's maternity leave if they have her back "in love" with Liam. Maybe send Steffy and Hayes away and into a witness protection program never to be seen or heard from again.

I sometimes get bored and read those soap "spoiler" email/newsletters. Last week, there was a poll about the demise of Finn. Taking this all with a grain of salt, the consensus was that fans are pretty upset that Finn is gone. I don't think they liked the character so much as they were happy to see Steffy finally away from Liam and happily married to someone else. This isn't a spoiler, but there is speculation that maybe Finn is alive and his care is being overseen by Li. That would make sense based on her insistence that Sheila could not see Finn and Li herself was taking care of him, which was kept pretty vague.

However, Brad Bell confirmed that TN had been let go, so who knows? I just do not want to see another iteration of ToD. I don't think anybody does, except Brad Bell. Idiot.

 

[RuntheTable]

I fear where this is going. I can just see everyone, well everyone except Hope and Brooke, piling on in an effort to convince Liam to go alone with Steffy's delusions. Then again; he may not need any encouragement to do that. 

So much for Finn's lasting impact on his wife. 

Will Liam also have to pretend to be Haye's daddy?

Are we getting ready for a Quinn/Carter reboot? I would be down for that. 

And maybe give Deacon and Bill some SL? And I mean SL outside of consoling Sheila and counseling Liam. 

[TobinAlbers]

15 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

I don't think they liked the character so much as they were happy to see Steffy finally away from Liam and happily married to someone else.

And that was my issue with Finn; he was never a true character in his own right but was the non-Liam Steffy love interest and Sheila's son.  I was totally down with Steffy having an earned, true blue new love but Finn was so shallow I couldn't get invested. Steffy cheated on him and didn't know who Hayes' father was initially as a result.  Does he hold her accountable? No, he blames Liam, absolves her, then proposes to her once he learns the baby is his rather than sit down with her to ask her WTH she cheated on him and give the man a minute to sort through how to move forward. Sinn was a romance on FFWD where they couldn't even grow roots to have any depth to their relationship.  They didn't OVERCOME any hurdles, Finn let her skate under the guise of forgiveness rather than allow Sinn be forged by this setback into a stronger couple. In the end, Finn continued to be a prop by taking a bullet for Steffy and his death not even being a major turning point due to his character but due to his absence as it resurrects the TOD 2.0

 

15 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

I thought Brooke was just being an insecure meddling mother today when she kept insisting that Hope go into Steffy's hospital room with Liam, but she was on the money. Hope should never, ever let her guard down around Steffy as far as Liam is concerned, even when Finn was still alive. 

Brooke and Hope know how Steffy works. Steffy may have loved Finn/the idea of Finn, but she did cheat on him with Liam and never copped to WHY she did it even though she said she loved Finn. So nope, I'd never trust Steffy 100% on anything let alone when it comes to Liam. If the show were on the other foot, Taylor would be meddling just as much in telling Brooke that they can't coddle an amnesiac Hope and she would need to face reality and see Steffy with Liam and know that Liam is Steffy's husband. Heck, Taylor would drop the bomb herself and probably hide behind her medical credentials and that she was doing the right, ethical thing and that because she's a psychiatrist she knows she's right and  someone had to tell her (similar to how she dropped the Brill baby bomb on Katie at the birthday party for Brooke at Batie's home in front of errrrybody).

Edited April 20, 2022 by TobinAlbers

[CountryGirl]

If I didn’t know better, I’d swear Steffy was faking memory loss. I can buy her not recalling the shooting, but to wipe out Finn, Hayes, and think she’s still married to Liam is some BS. And is this memory before or after she rode Bill like the Pony Express?

Liam doing his infamous Captain Save a Ho race right back into Steffy’s hospital room. 🙄Hope, buy a damn clue, march in there, and set Steffy straight!

[CharlizeCat]

 

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 that because she's a world-renowned psychiatrist 

 Fixed that for you! 😁

 

[Waldo13]

For the first time I have to call 🐂💩 on Quinn. The only reason Quinn is happy about Carter ending it with Paris is because Quinn really wants Carter for herself. 

When I find myself in times of trouble Quinn comes to me speaking words of wisdom “Let It Be”.  And in my hour of darkness, Quinn is standing right in front of me Speaking words of wisdom “Let It Be”. Let it be, Let it be, Let it be. Let Quinn and Carter be!!  

Fuck them all fuck them all, the Stuffy, the Ridge, the Taylor, the Liam, and the Bridget if they are going to allow Stuffy to continue thinking Liam is her husband. The jury is still out if I’m going to give Hope a big FU if she will allow Liam to go along with this. The FU to Hope will be for allowing Liam to once again to put Stuffy’s needs over hers. How many times has Hope forgave Liam for running to Stuffy.  
 

Oh, I almost forgot, how much support did Stuffy give Hope when she thought Beth was dead. The emotional support Hope got from Stuffy was for Stuffy to “buy” Katie a sister just a few weeks after loosing Beth  

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Waldo13

[Anna Yolei]

On 4/19/2022 at 1:38 PM, lightninggirl said:

I'm going to be honest and say that I'm ALL for it. I don't care who goes where and does what to whom, that dumb box of rocks posing as a doctor is GONE. They could reanimate Darla's corpse and bring her back as Stuffy's love interest at this point, and I'd still be thrilled that they killed Finn off. Whoo hoo!

While I can't say I'm quite as  glad that Finn is gone, I definitely have not sat shiva for the guy. He had one job--block Liam--and he couldn't even do that right. Bye. 🤷‍♀️

Its a testimae to how truly despised the ToD and especially Liam really is when this flat character has generated more support for any dead character since Phoebe, who was a legacy character to a major couple. John Finnegan Jr was a glorified accessory much like the dead cats piled on Steffy's head that pass as her hair most days of the week and as much as I hate the ToD, I can't pretend otherwise.

[RNbynite]

On 4/16/2022 at 2:03 PM, RuntheTable said:

She saved me, she really saved me!

And so the Sheila/Taylor love affair begins. Taylor is simply too stupid for words. If Sheila hadn't been playin on the fucking ledge, then you would not have gone over it. And for someone who is supposed to be so introspective and a brilliant reader of other people; how does Taylor not see that she is the only person who has given Sheila an inch, so of course Sheila was gonna save her dumb ass. If Sheila had let Taylor die she would be a hunk of chum in a sea of hungry, angry sharks. 

And just watch; Ridge will be all in. Brooke tried to get him to back off of Deacon, who is not a homicidal maniac, and who just wanted to have some type of relationship with his daughter. Ridge wouldn't budge; declaring Deacon the scourge of the earth. But since it is Doc, the smart one, telling him that Sheila has changed, and just lookie how she saved my life Ridge!, he will roll over in agreement. 

I will enjoy watching both their stupid assed faces crack when they learn Sheila tried to gun down their precious little princess. 

I am not at all convinced Thomas will be riding the Sheila redemption train. I am hoping that he will confess to Brooke and tell her he suspects Sheila was involved in the shooting. So of course it will never happen. 

I also like Paris's new do. It does make her seem more um......proportionate. It also brings out her really lovely and quite beautiful eyes. 

Liam needs to buy a clue and learn to read the room. How many times do you think you can talk about how you cannot lose another woman without your current woman getting a case of the ass? Just sayin. 

I really like Paris’ hairdo and, not to sound ignorant, but out of curiosity, how is this achieved?

[lgprimes]

Uggggghhhh

 Turned on the show for a second, saw Steffy loving on her “dear sweet husband” Liam and turned it right the F off. 
Do they truly not get that we are OVER IT?? 
Find new stories to write or shut it down.

[Skarzero]

On 4/16/2022 at 3:48 AM, Anna Yolei said:

Do you really think Taylor would care anyway?

Lol nope! But without the backdrop of Steffy being shot & almost getting herself thrown off a building she'd have no reason to be so callous about someone else's misfortune. But then again, she almost never has anyway.

20 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

how much support did Stuffy give Hope when she thought Beth was dead. The emotional support Hope got from Stuffy was for Stuffy to “buy” Kelly a sister just a few weeks after loosing Beth  

22 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

If the show were on the other foot, Taylor would be meddling just as much in telling Brooke that they can't coddle an amnesiac Hope and she would need to face reality and see Steffy with Liam and know that Liam is Steffy's husband. Heck, Taylor would drop the bomb herself and probably hide behind her medical credentials and that she was doing the right, ethical thing and that because she's a psychiatrist she knows she's right and  someone had to tell her (similar to how she dropped the Brill baby bomb on Katie at the birthday party for Brooke at Batie's home in front of errrrybody).

^^^This. And all of this just highlights what a hypocritical nut job Taylor is, (her daughter too but I'll focus on Tayloon for the moment). Taylor nor Steffy would be having any of this shit so why should Hope/Brooke? And as already pointed out, the last time Hope did have a crisis Steffy/Taylor barely gave her a few passing thoughts before theorizing strategizing about how Lame would just have to abandon his grieving wife because Steffy is raising two kids on her own. One of them, freshly bought. So there is already a frame of reference to how they'd handle this situation in the reverse. But because Hope is a pushover she won't call anyone out or remind them of any of this. 

I expect nothing from Lame but very telling how he conveniently goes along with this. And tbh he's a hypocrite too lol because if that was Tomass thinking Hope was still is wife and if Hope didn't immediately rebuff going along with his "treatment" or tell Taylor "glad he's okay but still fuck off & not my problem" Lame would have none of it.

22 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

And is this memory before or after she rode Bill like the Pony Express?

I'm wondering this too. Probably before since remembering what a fallible, trifling wench she is might be too traumatizing for her. 

Edited April 21, 2022 by Skarzero

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, Skarzero said:

I'm wondering this too. Probably before since remembering what a fallible, trifling wench she is might be to traumatizing for her. 

In which case, she doesn't remember Kelly because it wasn't until Liam found the paternity test in Steffy's purse that he realized what she did with Bill. Steffy doesn't seem to be asking about her child so she doesn't remember being pregnant.

Edited April 21, 2022 by nilyank

[smartyshorts]

5 hours ago, Skarzero said:

expect nothing from Lame but very telling how he conveniently goes along with this. And tbh he's a hypocrite too lol because if that was Tomass thinking Hope was still is wife and if Hope didn't immediately rebuff going along with his "treatment" or tell Taylor "glad he's okay but still fuck off & not my problem" Lame would have none of it.

Lame would use it as an opportunity to "be consoled" by his ex.  

I need Sheila to get back to her hotel and pack up her things in an attempt to flee the country before Steffy's memory comes back (sometime mud summer I am betting) Maybe that Renfro hotel manager cab blackmail her on the way out because he probably knows Sheila tossed all her bloody clothes as well as Steffy and Finn's "stolen" personal effects. 

I'd love to see Li's reaction to the erasure of her beloved son. Since she is a doctor too, maybe SHE could break the news to Steff. 

Kelly is the cutest, but is she really going to be able to not mention her little brother? 

Could we get Douglas to roam the halls of the hospital during his Spring Break...he'd have this shit solved before the weekend. 

[nasir jones]

I’m barely watching the show and please forgive me if this has been addressed on the show or this board, but how/when are these idiots going to address the fact that Steffy has a newborn child with the husband they’re pretending never existed? Are they just never going to bring up Hayes to Steffy?

This sorta makes zero sense. Possibly subzero.

[Chatty Cake]

Can’t Liam tell Steffy they haven’t been married for some time now. I don’t think the truth sends people back into comas does it? 

[BoffoDaWonderSheep]

I see the opening credits have had a Finn-ectomy already (More pix of Brooke added). Makes me kind of sad since I actually liked Dr. Biberty. 

[Waldo13]

I’m so sick and tired of the 🌍 revolving around Stuffy. 

Like mother like daughter. Taylor is representing her love for Ridge and Stuffy is representing her love for Liam. So is Taylor and Ridge going to work for Stuffy to convince Liam to leave Hope and go back Stuffy?  Stay tuned. 

[norcalgal]

8 hours ago, Skarzero said:

^^^This. And all of this just highlights what a hypocritical nut job Taylor is, (her daughter too but I'll focus on Tayloon for the moment). Taylor nor Steffy would be having any of this shit so why should Hope/Brooke? And as already pointed out, the last time Hope did have a crisis Steffy/Taylor barely gave her a few passing thoughts before theorizing strategizing about how Lame would just have to abandon his grieving wife because Steffy is raising two kids on her own. One of them, freshly bought. So there is already a frame of reference to how they'd handle this situation in the reverse. But because Hope is a pushover she won't call anyone out or remind them of any of this. 

I expect nothing from Lame but very telling how he conveniently goes along with this. And tbh he's a hypocrite too lol because if that was Tomass thinking Hope was still is wife and if Hope didn't immediately rebuff going along with his "treatment" or tell Taylor "glad he's okay but still fuck off & not my problem" Lame would have none of it.

Alllll this!!!   As for the bolded, why has the show gone almost to extremes to make Hope a doormat? Is that a producer driven dictate? Did the fans write in and say Steffy must always, always get the better of Hope or they stop watching?  Why make a clear narrative choice to have Hope allow people to walk all over her time and time again?

2 hours ago, smartyshorts said:

Kelly is the cutest, but is she really going to be able to not mention her little brother? 

And this is why Steffy thinking she's still married to Liam is sooooo dumb!  You really expect a kid to not mention their new-ish sibling?!  Will Taylor or Ridge have to "hide" Hayes somewhere or maybe they'll just give him to Li and conveniently "forget" to ever get him back?

[Angeleyes]

I know there are fans who loved the Steffy/Liam pairing, but at this point are there really fans out there who are happy with this storyline? Would it have been that hard to improve the writing for Finn. I think a recast would have been better than killing him off for this mess. 

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Angeleyes said:

I know there are fans who loved the Steffy/Liam pairing, but at this point are there really fans out there who are happy with this storyline?

Between Twitter and Reddit and the five B&B fans who are active on Tumblr? It doesn't appear to be any. Even the ones who live to see Hope get her face cracked have noped outta this one. 

The consensus I get is people just want Steffy to be with someone who puts her first, even a cardboard cutout like Finn and I don't blame them. If there was any viable option for Hope other than Thomas on canvas, I'd be "Liam who?" too.

Edited April 22, 2022 by Anna Yolei

[LittleIggy]

I stuck my toe in the water to see if I would start watching again. Pulled said toe back and ran from the pool swearing! I wish Hope would get Hayes and raise him to get back for the time she lost with Beth.

[RuntheTable]

Watching Taylor and Ridge council patronize Brooke was simply rage inducing. Taylor's dollar store education, coupled with years of exhibiting less than professional behavior, makes any advise she gives questionable. Add in that this is about her daughter, preventing her from being impartial, and she can take her psycho babble and shove it. I noticed this new incarnation of Taylor is constantly throwing around "as a doctor", or "as a psychologist" in an effort to justify what she is saying/doing. In this case she can claim her doctoring pedigree all she wants, but this is nothing more than a way to stick it to Brooke and Hope. And Ridge? A mother fucker can go pound sand. If it was Hope laying in that hospital bed, thinking she was still married to Liam, Taylor and Ridge would be aghast. And if Brooke thought it best to keep letting Hope think that, and asked Liam to play along, T&R would be all up in Brooke's shit. 

It certainly didn't take much to convince Liam.

And we are supposed to believe that Kelly wouldn't ask her mother where daddy Finn is? Or why mommy didn't want to see her baby brother Hayes? I guess the poor little guy will be shunted off somewhere so Steffy won't see him. Or, knowing this idiots, they will just tell her she and Liam had another child. 

How is Steffy fragile? She wasn't in a coma, she was suffering from blood loss. So will knowing that she was married to someone else somehow cause her to lose more blood and go back to sleep? And Bridget is signing off on this nonsense too? I am surprised she didn't grab her laptop and Google it. 

Edited April 23, 2022 by RuntheTable