S31.E08: You Call, We Haul

[Tryangle]

Basically, yes to all the above. Why the devil wasn't the split vote brought up, especially since the majority alliance split votes at the previous Tribal Council? Did they get overly cocky or something?

 

It was a very good gut play by Kelley, of course, but it shouldn't have come to that really. The majority alliance blew it, and Savage's story gets cut quite abruptly.

 

Kass - blech, again.

[mojoween]

Abi can screw off. Wasn't she Andrew's friend and in his alliance two episodes ago? I don't find her two-faced ass charming in the least, she may be invisible now but I remember how awful she was from the beginning.

[Bryce Lynch]

I was hoping Fishback would be voted out, but Savage sort of deserved it for giving Joe all the "swear on my kids lives" crap and then not fighting for him at all.

Joe should join the 3 women on the bottom and try to bring a couple of others with him. Otherwise he is doomed as soon as he loses a challenge.

Very dumb by all the strategic geniuses to not split the vote. I am glad Wentworth was able to take advantage.

[truthaboutluv]

I feel like both Keith and Spencer lost the challenge because of Probst's narrating about Joe's balls moving. My guess is they lost their concentration for a split second watching to see if his ball would fall and in these kinds of challenges, that's all it takes. You actually saw Keith look slightly sideways right before his ball dropped. I like Joe just fine but man, Probst's man-crush on him is really becoming insufferable.

 

I was really hoping the other team would win the reward challenge just for how annoying Probst was being - "Joe carrying an entire box on his own, that's how you win and play this game." Um okay, except Jeremy carried one on his own moments later so it's clearly not only possible by Joe the God. And yes I noticed Jeff sounded less than impressed by Jeremy's doing it. I also felt like he kept making it sound like the other team was doing a lot worse than they actually were. The worse was when Spencer was barely in the water a few seconds trying to get the box and Probst goes, "Spencer FINALLY gets the box..." like he'd been there for minutes. 

 

Speaking of Spencer, I find it amazing that after two tribal switch-ups that put him automatically at the bottom and so many thinking he needed to go immediately, he's somehow managed to worm his way into this invisible position. No one's mentioning his name even though two challenges in a row he's proven how strong he is in them even if he didn't win. And yet suddenly no one's talking about him. I find that very interesting. 

 

I knew it was Savage the minute Wentworth and Ciera realized the plan to blindside Fishbach had changed and they were talking about all writing the same name. By the way I cracked up at Wentworth saying that Joe was now dead to her because he had no balls. I honestly am not even sure why Wentworth was in the bottom with Ciera and Abi since I swear she voted against them last tribal council. 

 

I think Ciera is incredibly annoying and I am more than ready for her and her juvenile eyerolling to be gone but I cannot lie, I enjoyed Savage's boot immensely. Abi's "well you made the jury" was gold, coupled with Savage's flipping her the bird. Geez, what is with people flipping people the bird this season. And both times it's been by people way old enough to know better. Savage and Kass could practically be grandparents. Not classy people, not classy at all. And Savage deserved that Abi dig since he along with Tasha kept her around like all the others who should have gotten rid of her a long time ago. 

 

Back to Ciera, she can pontificate all she wants and Savage is annoying but he is right, she would not be acting the way she is if she wasn't on the bottom which okay, you're fighting and playing the game. But don't make it seem like it's because no one else is and you're just enlightening them to that. Because if that were really the case, how easily she jumped on the Fishbach blindside when that seemed likely because she was just glad it wasn't her. She didn't try to float Savage's name which is clearly who she really wanted out.

 

No, she was wiling to go with Fishbach, even after she was willing to work with him to go for Joe, because that's where the numbers were at the time and it meant she was safe. So isn't that what people like Spencer, Keith, Tasha, etc. are doing? And she decides it means they're not playing. Girl can't get booted fast enough as far as I'm concerned. 

[KaveDweller]

I hope that all the tribals are as interesting as the last two have been.

I think I kind of understand what Ciera is saying about "big moves" and I think some of them in the alliance did too.

 

I feel like Ciera is really just frustrated with people like Wigglesworth and Kimmi who are obviously on the bottom of the majority and will be in danger soon. We didn't see Ciera talking to them, but I assume she has tried and they aren't willing to change. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

Riding to Victory

 

[yamashinaryu]

How I wish the Savage blindside happened last week.

 

I thought that was a funny entrance by Kass.  Amazing play by Kelley. 

 

Can't wait for Ponderosa - who will flip the bird first? 

[susannot]

No, she was wiling to go with Fishbach, even after she was willing to work with him to go for Joe, because that's where the numbers were at the time and it meant she was safe. 

 

A proven winning strategy called "Anybody but me."

[Haleth]

Savage and Kass could practically be grandparents.

Kass is only 42. Same age as Kimmi.

Edited November 12, 2015 by Haleth

[LadyChatts]

Kimmi seems loyal to Jeremy and I have a feeling she will not flip from him.  If Kelley/Ciera/Abi need numbers, I don't think they are going to get them in Jeremy/Tasha/Spencer/Kimmi.  Kelly Wigles, Joe, and Keith might be open votes.  Now that someone actually was able to make a move, this might propel Stephen to try again.  He needs to not overplay and take his focus off Joe, look elsewhere.

[susannot]

She looks older.

[ToastnBacon]

That was a fun episode.

Seeing Savage go was a nice surprise.

Cierra's eye rolls were too much and her narrative of "play the game" was old the first time.

I'll be glad to see her go.

[ProfCrash]

LOL that was awesome! I have no problem with Kelley and Ciera at tribal. They are right, there was a tight four and everyone else wants to believe that they are five. Keith, Spencer and Kelly are floating along. Stephen is hung up on Joe and Joe is hung up on Stephen. If the large alliance wants to coast and get rid of easy folks that is their perogative but why should Abi, Ciera and Kelley accept their fate?

The board was pissed with Hali, Jenn, and Joe for their game play last season when they were in the same situation. They were too passive even though everyone watching knew Dan, Will, and Sierra were not going to do squat. So go for it Ciera and Kelley. Play the damn game.

I even liked Abi at tribal tonight. Andrew is arrogant and I am thrilled to see him gone. I only wish they had targeted Jeremy so he could have gone home with an idol in his pocket.

[ElleryAnne]

I was hoping Fishback would be voted out, but Savage sort of deserved it for giving Joe all the "swear on my kids lives" crap and then not fighting for him at all.

 

 

Not to mention calling Stephen "disgusting" for daring to play the game.  I don't remember Andrew being so insufferably smug last time around.  (Of course, last season he played in, Rupert and Burton were around so the bell curve of self-satisfied smugness was skewed all to hell.)

[Straycat80]

Kass is only 42.

Really? She looks older, at least 50.

[Cutty]

The funny thing is Savage going is actually better for Stephen and especially Jeremy's game. Savage was totally loyal to Joe. Joe is probably toast whenever Jeremy's alliance decides.

 

You can see how well of a game Jeremy is playing by how quickly he shut down the Fishbach boot. He easily has the most allies and influence at this point.

[vb68]

I'm not sure why they all go for Wentworth in this situation.  I mean, if you are going to be dumb and not split it, Ciera is more disruptive and has  the bigger mouth.

[LadyChatts]

I hope Ciera's parting words if/when she's voted out are directed at people she knows will be joining her in the jury in the next few days-and that her first words at Ponderosa are 'I told you so.'  I'm glad she isn't keeping quiet.  Only one person is winning this game.  Only 2 other people are making the final 3.  If people don't care that they are on the bottom, then vote themselves out and let people who want to play and will fight to stay in the game stick around.  That's why I'm saying, I hope this wakes people up and makes something happen.  If Ciera/Abi/Kelley are among the next to go, this will become a pretty boring season. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

At Tribal, Savage also claimed that the people on his side all talk to each other and have 'respect' for each other, it was so smug.  Like Ciera / Wentworth / Abi couldn't possibly understand that or something.  This is why people don't like him.

[LadyChatts]

I'm not sure why they all go for Wentworth in this situation.  I mean, if you are going to be dumb and not split it, Ciera is more disruptive and has  the bigger mouth.

 

I'm just wondering how Abi escaped the vote.  And I really thought it was going to be split and Ciera would end up going.

[Bluegirl547]

Just because no one is playing YOUR game, Ciera, doesn't mean they aren't playing the game. I liked her on her season, but her attempt to be some kind of Greek chorus is falling flat for me.

[jsm1125]

I'm just wondering how Abi escaped the vote.  And I really thought it was going to be split and Ciera would end up going.

My guess is that Kelley is seen as more under-the-radar, which can be scary to those who fear that strategy, and not as likely to talk her way out of the game as Abi and Ciera might potentially be.

[dizzyd]

I am still smiling reading all the comments. This is turning out to be one of the best season of Survivor ever.

Something was mentioned at the end of the episode that they were looking for the hidden immunity Idol in the wrong place when it was right in front of them at the challenge. Does that mean that there has been a hidden immunity Idol at every challenge and we just didn't know it because nobody had a clue?

[LadyChatts]

In a way, I'm sorry Tasha wasn't the one to go.  Her and Kass, alone at Ponderosa?  Next week: from Jeff "usually this is when we bring in the jury, but the Ponderosa house imploded just like that one in Poltergeist.  Whereabout of Kass and Tasha are unknown."

 

But Savage and Kass should be fun, too.

[bagatelle]

Jeremy's body all over that Reward Challenge.  Hoisting that Cube thing upon his shoulders.  Oh mama mama mama mama.

 

Yes, I agree… but strangely enough, it was Joe who did the same and made it look effortless, not so much with Jeremy.

[Skeeter22]

I'm just sad that "At least you made the jury" couldn't have been the title of the episode.

Ciera is right when she says there are people who aren't playing. It's self-serving, but entirely correct. Most of the people left are just waiting to be voted out. Even the "players" aren't doing much. Piling all their votes on Wentworth when they have 12 people left? That was weak. They deserved to have that backfire on them.

[KaveDweller]

I am still smiling reading all the comments. This is turning out to be one of the best season of Survivor ever.

Something was mentioned at the end of the episode that they were looking for the hidden immunity Idol in the wrong place when it was right in front of them at the challenge. Does that mean that there has been a hidden immunity Idol at every challenge and we just didn't know it because nobody had a clue?

 

Jeff Probst mentioned in an interview that they had only been hiding them at challenges if someone found a clue.  

 

But that may change now that one has been played and it's an individual game.

[Ms Blue Jay]

truthaboutluv

 

. And yes I noticed Jeff sounded less than impressed by Jeremy's doing it. I also felt like he kept making it sound like the other team was doing a lot worse than they actually were. The worse was when Spencer was barely in the water a few seconds trying to get the box and Probst goes, "Spencer FINALLY gets the box..." like he'd been there for minutes.

 

And Spencer falls in water for a split second and Jeff screams:  "DISASTER..... As Spencer falls in."  Seriously?  Disaster?  He didn't die.  He immediately got back in the boat.

[BigRedCheese]

 

The only thing that would have made that more epic is if Kelley, Ciera, or Abi yelled "we're your new Lill".

 

Or, "you didn't get back to us Andrew."

[Maverick]

I'm not sure why they all go for Wentworth in this situation.  I mean, if you are going to be dumb and not split it, Ciera is more disruptive and has  the bigger mouth.

 

 Which means no one will align with her.  Would you risk even talking about jumping ship and going with her if she's proven she'll blurt it out in the most public, disruptive manner if it suits her game (or whim)?

[Mreid]

Andrew leaving was a smart move for the girls.  The game is going to be different without him around. Cant wait to see that ponderosa video Kass and Andrew in the jury house together should be interesting

[Gummo]

Now THAT was Epic Survivor!  So self-righteous moral arbiter Andrew Savage is just a petty, immature little bitch?  What a surprise.

 

Savage, you're such a despicable douchebag, you even made me like Abi, and I didn't think that was possible.

 

Kass & Savage -- most miserable Ponderosa ever?  One can only hope!

[susannot]

I'm just sad that "At least you made the jury" couldn't have been the title of the episode.

Ciera is right when she says there are people who aren't playing. It's self-serving, but entirely correct. Most of the people left are just waiting to be voted out. Even the "players" aren't doing much. Piling all their votes on Wentworth when they have 12 people left? That was weak. They deserved to have that backfire on them.

It was probably the smart move for the 9 people who were voting for Wentworth.  They were going with the numbers and what they thought was an easy boot.  Wentworth's play shows exactly why you should never reveal your idol to anyone at all, as she was able to engineer one of the most beautiful blindsides ever.

[BigRedCheese]

I laughed atAndrew flipping Abi off, he likes to portray himself as such a noble Savage, and above such things, but when it comes down to it, he's just as "disgusting" as any of them.

[bagatelle]

This ended up being a great episode. I've always disliked Andrew, so I love his blindside. He called Stephen "disgusting" just because he knows the game so well?  I couldn't be happier to see Andrew go.

[tinaw]

I'm not sure why they all go for Wentworth in this situation. I mean, if you are going to be dumb and not split it, Ciera is more disruptive and has the bigger mouth.

Agree vb. Ciera was way more in control of the situation. One of them could have an idol too. Why take a chance and have all your votes not count. Lol

[Jodithgrace]

That was one of the most satisfying episodes of Survivor, ever! Wentworth found that idol ages ago, and nobody even had a hint! I love it when something like that plays out so far down the road. Imagine if she hadn't played it? 

 

I was afraid that Ceira's eyes were going to roll right out of her head! I kinda like her, though. She's little but feisty. She could have so easily been a goner tonight..I wonder what made them choose Wentworth, and why they didn't split the vote? Foolish people..just because you don't know there's an idol, does' mean that there isn't one.

 

Who has the other one..Jeremy? I think i remember that, but am not sure. He is really playing a stealth game..notice how quick he was to deny that he was in the Power Four? "What, who, little ol' me?" 

 

That was so fun. Bye, bye Savage! Enjoy the jury.

[dkb]

 

 

I was afraid that Ceira's eyes were going to roll right out of her head! I kinda like her, though. She's little but feisty. She could have so easily been a goner tonight..I wonder what made them choose Wentworth, and why they didn't split the vote? Foolish people..just because you don't know there's an idol, does' mean that there isn't one.

 

 

Yes, I am wondering if they didn't think of the split vote at all or did and decided that there was no way one of the girls could have the idol and decided against splitting. With such a big group they shouldn't be taking chances like that. 

Edited November 12, 2015 by dkb

[Ms Blue Jay]

Yes Jeremy also has an idol and also has not told anyone, which I love.  Whenever anybody goes searching for an idol he totally pretends to search with them.  It seems like next week will be a continuation of this.

[susannot]

Yes,Jeremy has the other one.  Though right now he is the master of the game and doesn't need it. I wonder if, in the long run, he will play it to save his ally Steven.

 

 I like Ciera too. I always like feisty female players who save themselves from certain elimination.

Edited November 12, 2015 by susannot

[pennben]

I still dislike Ciera.  Not hate like Kass, just dislike.  I don't like her.  What does her body language remind me of?  Is it a praying mantis?  Kermit the Frog?  

 

HEY!  I know we are all still vibrating from that tribal council, but there is absolutely no reason to disparage Kermit the Frog!!  Honestly!

 

As a comparson for Ciera, my mind went to Shelly Duvall as Olive Oyl.  I found both quite annoying.

[DEL901]

Andrew is such an ass (I refused to call him by his last name), giving the finger not once but twice in the episode (and in at least one other episode that I can remember).  So professional and articulate that when he's upset that's the only way he can respond.  Sheesh.  Wouldn't want to work with him.

Good on Wentworth.  She actually kept the idol a secret.  (Jeremy gets props for the same thing).

 

Bunch of idiots didn't even try to split the vote "just in case".  Arrogance was Andrew's downfall.

[Lantern7]

Had to watch Arrow. Good episode, but the ending wasn't as epic as this one.

 

I have to say, this is not going to be one of the better seasons. Splitting the vote should have been a given with three women on the proverbial chopping block. With a massive nine-person vote, they wound up having a one-in-three chance of screwing it up. And they did. I think that has to be a record for most votes negated. I don't think much about Kelley-With-Two-E's, but I respect the heck out of her gameplay. And the whole thing blew up in Andrew's face, which was a nice bonus. I kept thinking poor Stephen would have gone out, and I have more in common with him than Andrew.

 

If Kelly-With-One-E is hated by the producers for a lack of soundbites, Keith has to be a close second. It's great that he's doing more than spitting, but driving the tuk-tuk must have left Burnett and Co. out of breath. What if he flipped it over? Huge disaster, and Probst would have no choice but to track down every single person who voted him into the game and beaten them up.

 

I want Joe gone. Tom Westman aside, I don't like overdogs. He's too pretty and he's a potential challenge monster. Nip that guy in the bud ASAP, before he stumbles into an idol.

[North of Eden]

Poor Savage...if only they  had picked Cierra for the boot (which honestly after he dismal performance at the last tribal she should have been tghe natural choice) he's still be around.

 

Still all the smug celebrating by the bottom tier is completly stupid. Their opposition still has the numbers and the idol is gone now so there won't be much protection. Hopefully we will get a good old fashioned pagonging of the three witches.

 

All and all though I was ready for Fishbach to go home tonight. Both he and Cierra fancy themselves as some sort of masterminds but they are just a couple of flounderers whose days are ultimatly numbered.

 

At the reward banquet Kelly Wigglseworth managed to temporarily transform from the block of wood she has been all season to an actual participant.

 

In other news even a mute Kass manages to be an A-hole.

 

The ever awesome Tasha being the last woman out on the challenge was no surprise. Ms.Fox for the win!

Edited November 12, 2015 by North of Eden

[pennben]

I think they simply overcorrected when they realized how badly the vote-splitting could have gone at the last tribal. 

 

I dance on your Survivor grave Savage.  Teehee.

Edited November 12, 2015 by pennben

[BigRedCheese]

 

this is not going to be one of the better seasons.

 

I don't know, I'm really digging it I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Fishbach or somebody wanted to split the votes, but Savage refused, since if he hadn't found the idol, certainly, no young girl could have found it.

[Katesus7]

Oh, y'all, that was pretty amazing. I'll just keep this to the ways the TC was awesome:

1) The not splitting the vote. I think a lot of it was the group thinking if the women had an idol, they would have used it last week, but mostly I think they thought "No way do those three have an idol". So suck it, alliance.

2) Picking the right target. Savage was 100% "Bros" alliance and would never, ever flip. Stephen and Joe already proved they could flip on each other. Jeremy might have been a better choice, but that's only based on the knowledge I have, not necessarily based on the knowledge they do.

3) Ciera made MUCH more sense tonight. I said her speech was 'word soup' last week, but this week at least she got more specific. I mean, of COURSE it's self-serving (which....yeah), but to the Kimmis and Spencers of this world, tonight's speech I think was a lot more effective. Also, I think the editing showed the same eye roll about 2 or 3 times. Or else she has a very specific, very weird eye roll.

4) Wentworth. Everything about Wentworth. But mostly her reply when Probst wanted her to rat out the person (I assume Joe) who came to her with a plan. Saying of course she's not going to out them, because she might be there the next day and have to work with them was the perfect shut down to Probst. Nothing he could say to that.

5) Savage and his teeth and his honor and his "oh, noes, these women are all such liars" bullshit is off my TV. Have fun with Kass on jury, I'm sure that will be lovely.

6) Kimmi, and possibly someone else, appreciating the move of Wentworth playing the idol and chuckling and kind of clapping. It was spontaneous, and a real reaction, and I loved it.

That was so freaking awesome. I love it when I don't know who leaves, and it's someone I hate, and I think it's going to be someone I like. It so rarely happens!!

[BigRedCheese]

 

all the smug celebrating by the bottom tier is completly stupid.

 

I don't have an issue with high fiving, fist bumping, and such, if they made it personal, then I would be bothered. I actually enjoyed seeing them celebrate, it was a fun moment. Has  their position changed? I don't know, Savage was the only one protecting Joe, so that's one thing that's changed with him gone, so who knows.

[omophagia]

During last week's episode, I was annoyed by Ciera's "play the game" speech, since it seemed to hinge primarily on her reaction to being on the wrong side of the numbers. The outcome of this week's episode, though, proved her, if not exactly right, rightish. Perhaps a more clarifying argument she could have made for someone like Spencer or Tasha would have been for her to say that she was frustrated that people refuse to count, rather than that they refuse to play the game.

 

Seeing Savage go was gratifying for a host of reasons. His unexamined social privileges have resulted in some sweeping moral judgments about players from "Skinny" Ryan Shoulders back in Pearl Islands to Jeff and, especially, Stephen this season. As he said, he's used to getting his way, so it was no surprise to see him act like a petulant child all the way to his very bitter end. Abi's parting shot was priceless.

 

And however much Stephen might want to believe that this season is seeing some kind of evolution in Survivor strategy-- as ever, the driving force behind most Survivor castaways is trying to make peace with their place in a season's narrative, and Stephen is clearly struggling with his place in this season's story-- the majority alliance made perhaps the most common mistake of all: Complacency. They didn't make a contingency plan for the one variable that could have upended their plan, and that failure sent one of their own packing. Whether it buys the minority group more than another few days or if it causes the majority alliance to fracture remains to be seen. But, whether or not the season is playing out with "heirarchical" strategy, that was something a group of 9 could have very easily planned for and avoided.

 

I've been in Wentworth's corner since episode one, so her sharp reading of the tribe dynamics and her glee at playing her idol at the right time made for a great tribal council. She's still in a good spot for the end-game if she can survive the next couple of rounds.

[LadyChatts]

I don't have an issue with high fiving, fist bumping, and such, if they made it personal, then I would be bothered. I actually enjoyed seeing them celebrate, it was a fun moment. Has  their position changed? I don't know, Savage was the only one protecting Joe, so that's one thing that's changed with him gone, so who knows.

 

I loved it, too.  They deserved to celebrate (and the sour pusses on the losing end of this vote deserved having it shoved in their faces).  I wish Kelley had flipped them all the bird on top of it.  The faces were all priceless, especially Stephen/Tasha/Savage/Jeremy.