Christine Brown Woolley: Nacho Sister Wife Anymore

[Sandy W]

25 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

meanwhile Janelle is shilling Joyōme Skincare by Plexus and claims they're the BEST skincare products on the market!  

So who is right.. Christine or Janelle?  🧐

Let us not forget Meri with her Younique.  The only one not shilling anything is Robyn, but if she's "too pretty to cook", she may be too lazy to work.

[Meowwww]

36 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

Let us not forget Meri with her Younique.  The only one not shilling anything is Robyn, but if she's "too pretty to cook", she may be too lazy to work.

Oh Lord, the Younique mascara.  I should have known. 

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, Sandy W said:

Let us not forget Meri with her Younique.  The only one not shilling anything is Robyn, but if she's "too pretty to cook", she may be too lazy to work.

Oh, but don't forget, Areola is up til all hours, bouncing all over the place.  Never mind that Robo has Kootie 24/7.  I hope he & Robo are driving each other nuts.  They are both bone lazy, as parents and every other which way.

 

 

[ginger90]

3 hours ago, Dustbunny said:

meanwhile Janelle is shilling Joyōme Skincare by Plexus and claims they're the BEST skincare products on the market!  

So who is right.. Christine or Janelle?  🧐

Did you see that on her Instagram by chance? I ask because I thought that’s where I had seen it, yesterday maybe, but it’s not there. I wanted to grab the picture just now (not a video) that she had up, with her hand on her cheek. She looked like she was about to fall asleep.

[Teafortwo]

On 4/17/2021 at 9:43 PM, Twopper said:

Aurora will probably be a sister wife to someone.  I just hope it isn't Aspyn.  

That is a scary thought.

[ginger90]

[laurakaye]

Now that is just precious.  Avalon looks like a lil' peanut compared to giant Uncle Paedon.

Paedon - another of Kody's sons who turned out good despite Kody's best efforts.  If any son was the "lost" son, it was Paedon, in a house with the least favored of the wives and all those noisy needy sisters.

I so badly want to see one of Kody's famous wrestling matches between himself and a fully-grown Paedon.  I would pay to see it, actually.  Paedon would leave no trace of Kody but a dusty pile of over-processed hair on the mat.

Edited April 27, 2021 by laurakaye

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

Now that is just precious.  Avalon looks like a lil' peanut compared to giant Uncle Paedon.

Paedon - another of Kody's sons who turned out good despite Kody's best efforts.  If any son was the "lost" son, it was Paedon, in a house with the least favored of the wives and all those noisy needy sisters.

I so badly want to see one of Kody's famous wrestling matches between himself and a fully-grown Paedon.  I would pay to see it, actually.  Paedon would leave no trace of Kody but a dusty pile of over-processed hair on the mat.

I'd pay, too.  Paedon (shoulda been Peyton) wiping the floor with his sperm donor Kootie.

 

[CouchTater]

While I've determined that Paedon is not my cup of tea (and based on my demographics and beliefs I doubt he'd be a fan of mine, either) those 2 pictures melted my cold heart a little bit.  How sweet!!!

I think I'm perceiving everything about this family through an anti-Kody lens right now.  After quickly fawning over the pics, my next thought was:  at least 1 Brown man is doing right by Avalon (in other words, where is Kody?).

Kody is the worst.

[laurakaye]

I wonder what role Paedon thinks he has to fill for his sisters and his mom - as the only son, I just wonder if he feels a pressure to help them deal with the fact that the man in their lives doesn't want them and likely never really did.  And thinking back on the show, I don't recall much interaction between Kody and Paedon at all unless Kody was disciplining him.  I just remember that Christine had to turn her garage into a wrestling ring in order to lure Kody over to her house.

I hope these kids all grow up happy and healthy.  I also hope that one by one, they decide that they have no time for their father and Kody ends up alone on Coyote Pass, staring forlornly into the plague pond and recalling the glory days of when he stripped to his skivvies in front of the cameras and went for a swim, all eyes admiring his dad-bod physique....until he hears Robyn's ear-shattering screech rip through the trees like a velociraptor, saying: "Kodyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! It's my nap time!!!  Get in here and watch the kidsssssssss you &^%^ jack&^#$ idiot &*^#&!"

I have such unattainable dreams for this show.......*sigh*

Edited April 27, 2021 by laurakaye

[Twopper]

3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

until he hears Robyn's ear-shattering screech rip through the trees like a velociraptor, saying: "Kodyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! It's my nap time!!!  Get in here and watch the kidsssssssss you &^%^ jack&^#$ idiot &*^#&!"

I have such unattainable dreams for this show.......*sigh*

Robyn as Velociraptor!  This wins the internet for the next 2 decades.   I love it. She does have the chin for it.

Last rites, DEAD, arms across chest. joined the choir invisible.  Buried. 

[Tuxcat]

Is Paedon still in the army or does he now live with Mykelti? And is Gwen going to NAU (while we're on that, what about Aurora)?

[Irate Panda]

2 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Is Paedon still in the army or does he now live with Mykelti? And is Gwen going to NAU (while we're on that, what about Aurora)?

I think one of the moms posted that Gwen and Aurora would be going to NAU. It may have been Janelle, since she was talking about Gabe being enrolled there. Gwen had it posted on Facebook if that was her real Facebook page and not an imposter account.  I’m also pretty sure Robyn posted about Aurora “having to live at home” so they could “afford” college or something of the sort.  She was trying to justify why she needed a house with so many bedrooms.  

Edited April 28, 2021 by Irate Panda

[itsadryheat]

On 4/25/2021 at 1:16 PM, ReadMeLattice said:

She was not only raised in polygamy but in an extremely prominent, dyed in the wool polygamist family with generation upon generation of Mormon fundamentalism. That was all she knew to an extent that isn’t true for the others. 

"Christine then said in her confessional: “I agreed to move to Flagstaff and I followed Kody here, but it's been a struggle the whole time. I’m tired of feeling like I don't matter. I'm tired of not having his support when I really need it. I'm just tired." 

“I need a partnership. I need something different than this.”

"I wanted a family not just the man"

Of all the "wives", Christine the plyg cheerleader, knows how this game rolls. And according to her, she Believes in it.

But now, they want us to believe she has gone all monogamist and the lack of support & partnership, the struggle, left with only the family not the man isn't working for her.

One would think being the plyg zealot and her mocking monogamy, this would be the farthest thing she would ever expect out of this arrangement.

loathe these people

[NoWhammies]

4 minutes ago, itsadryheat said:

"Christine then said in her confessional: “I agreed to move to Flagstaff and I followed Kody here, but it's been a struggle the whole time. I’m tired of feeling like I don't matter. I'm tired of not having his support when I really need it. I'm just tired." 

“I need a partnership. I need something different than this.”

"I wanted a family not just the man"

Of all the "wives", Christine the plyg cheerleader, knows how this game rolls. And according to her, she Believes in it.

But now, they want us to believe she has gone all monogamist and the lack of support & partnership, the struggle, left with only the family not the man isn't working for her.

One would think being the plyg zealot and her mocking monogamy, this would be the farthest thing she would ever expect out of this arrangement.

loathe these people

Alternatively, it shows a certain flexibility in previously inflexible thinking. Sometimes you need your back to a wall before you realize that something you believed in passionately just doesn't work for you anymore. 

Or, it could all be for TV. Who knows? 

[Adiba]

2 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

Alternatively, it shows a certain flexibility in previously inflexible thinking. Sometimes you need your back to a wall before you realize that something you believed in passionately just doesn't work for you anymore. 

Or, it could all be for TV. Who knows? 

Right, sometimes you have to hit rock bottom or a breaking point to re-evaluate your life choices. It takes an awful lot to overcome a lifetime of indoctrination and the threat of hell and damnation in order to choose a different path. 
Add to that the psychological effects of cognitive dissonance and the sunk-cost fallacy—it’s a wonder Christine has voiced any discontent with her lifestyle at all.

[MargeGunderson]

I wonder if, now that most of her kids are grown, Christine doesn’t have as many distractions in her life that she could use to ignore Kody’s behavior. He has gotten worse for sure, but maybe it was easier for Christine to overlook when she was raising her kids. Now that she’s looking at her future with the kids out of the house, she’s probably wondering why the hell she sticks around (I know I wonder that).

(I know that Truley isn’t that old, but all of the rest of her kids have or are starting to leave the nest)

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, MargeGunderson said:

I wonder if, now that most of her kids are grown, Christine doesn’t have as many distractions in her life that she could use to ignore Kody’s behavior. He has gotten worse for sure, but maybe it was easier for Christine to overlook when she was raising her kids. Now that she’s looking at her future with the kids out of the house, she’s probably wondering why the hell she sticks around (I know I wonder that).

(I know that Truley isn’t that old, but all of the rest of her kids have or are starting to leave the nest)

I could see this. Also Christine was the primary caregiver to Janelle's kids while Janelle worked outside of the home. I think when the kids were growing up, Christine felt more purpose and was able to get her emotional needs met as a mother/caregiver. Its clear that ALL of the kids have an emotional attachment to Christine. Now the only one that needs a "caretaker" in the emotional sense is Truely (not that the adult kids don't love Christine any more, I am sure they would happy to have her come visit and spend holidays, but they dont need her day to day presence in their lives).

Christine is now less fulfilled and has more time to think and reflect about her life. A lot of stay at home parents go through this when their child/children get to be adolescents, or people that have been full time caregivers to their parents and the parents pass away.

[JenMcSnark]

20 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I could see this. Also Christine was the primary caregiver to Janelle's kids while Janelle worked outside of the home. I think when the kids were growing up, Christine felt more purpose and was able to get her emotional needs met as a mother/caregiver. Its clear that ALL of the kids have an emotional attachment to Christine. Now the only one that needs a "caretaker" in the emotional sense is Truely (not that the adult kids don't love Christine any more, I am sure they would happy to have her come visit and spend holidays, but they dont need her day to day presence in their lives).

Christine is now less fulfilled and has more time to think and reflect about her life. A lot of stay at home parents go through this when their child/children get to be adolescents, or people that have been full time caregivers to their parents and the parents pass away.

Which makes it even more heinous that Kody had the audacity to say "love the family and I will love you" or whatever the fuck nonsense he was spouting. 

Christine is really the ONLY adult in the family who has EVER loved "the family".  

These people. 

[ReadMeLattice]

23 hours ago, MargeGunderson said:

I wonder if, now that most of her kids are grown, Christine doesn’t have as many distractions in her life that she could use to ignore Kody’s behavior. He has gotten worse for sure, but maybe it was easier for Christine to overlook when she was raising her kids. Now that she’s looking at her future with the kids out of the house, she’s probably wondering why the hell she sticks around (I know I wonder that).

(I know that Truley isn’t that old, but all of the rest of her kids have or are starting to leave the nest)

Yeah, I absolutely agree with this. It’s hard to focus on your marital issues if you have 6 kids — and she basically had 13 when they were young — even if you’re monogamous. Now she has a few older kids at home and is going, “wait, what have i done and what did I settle for?” 

[Canadian Girl]

On 4/27/2021 at 8:56 AM, ginger90 said:

Who's Avalon? 

[Gramto6]

32 minutes ago, Canadian Girl said:

Who's Avalon? 

Mykelti and FT's new baby.

[iwantcookies]

Who is FT?

9 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

Mykelti and FT's new baby.

 

[Cetacean]

Fat Tony. 

[b2H]

On 4/29/2021 at 5:01 PM, Scarlett45 said:

I could see this. Also Christine was the primary caregiver to Janelle's kids while Janelle worked outside of the home. I think when the kids were growing up, Christine felt more purpose and was able to get her emotional needs met as a mother/caregiver. Its clear that ALL of the kids have an emotional attachment to Christine. Now the only one that needs a "caretaker" in the emotional sense is Truely (not that the adult kids don't love Christine any more, I am sure they would happy to have her come visit and spend holidays, but they dont need her day to day presence in their lives).

Christine is now less fulfilled and has more time to think and reflect about her life. A lot of stay at home parents go through this when their child/children get to be adolescents, or people that have been full time caregivers to their parents and the parents pass away.

I think this is a good angle to view Christine’s change of heart.  She really was the chief caregiver in charge for probably 20 or more years.  That role is simply not as important anymore.  Robyn’s raising her own and the others are nearly all out of the house.

She needs to open a daycare.  Maybe that’s the ticket to her having purpose again.

[itsadryheat]

Mykelti

"revealed in an Instagram Live event that her mother has remained in Flagstaff with Kody and her three sister wives. She went on to suggest her mother has no plans to leave the rest of the Brown clan behind." 

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/sister-wives-christine-brown-remains-in-flagstaff-a-year-after-declaring-she-couldnt-do-marriage-with-kody-brown.html/

[xwordfanatik]

If that experience with her dick of a husband saying Ysabel could travel alone for major surgery didn't wake Christine up, and make her leave, I'm afraid she never will leave.  

What a sad and shitty life.  

[Twopper]

1 hour ago, itsadryheat said:

"revealed in an Instagram Live event that her mother has remained in Flagstaff with Kody and her three sister wives. She went on to suggest her mother has no plans to leave the rest of the Brown clan behind." 

Well, there was no way Christine would move to Utah until Ysabel had graduated, considering what she said about how unhappy Gwen was about the move to Flagstaff.  Truely is bonded with Sol so I guess Christine will hang around at least until Truely goes to college.  Ysabel should graduate at the end of the month unless she is off schedule due to the surgery.

[Sandy W]

21 minutes ago, Twopper said:

Well, there was no way Christine would move to Utah until Ysabel had graduated, considering what she said about how unhappy Gwen was about the move to Flagstaff.  Truely is bonded with Sol so I guess Christine will hang around at least until Truely goes to college.  Ysabel should graduate at the end of the month unless she is off schedule due to the surgery.

I would like to think that Christine remains only until Ysabel graduates.  Any relationship cultivated between Truely and Sol would be at the sole whim of Robyn, on her terms and ground rules.  Besides, I think that the attraction of a new baby niece would be more appealing to Truely than Sol, who only is her playmate by default, as there is no one else in the family close to her in age.

[Rabbit Hutch]

What a sad state of affairs.  I can't imagine her loneliness once the kids are grown and moved away. I guess Christine's thought this through.  😔

[Teafortwo]

On 4/27/2021 at 1:22 PM, laurakaye said:

until he hears Robyn's ear-shattering screech rip through the trees like a velociraptor, saying: "Kodyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! It's my nap time!!!  Get in here and watch the kidsssssssss you &^%^ jack&^#$ idiot &*^#&!"

Kind of like the ending of Ethan Frome.

On 4/27/2021 at 7:46 PM, Irate Panda said:

I’m also pretty sure Robyn posted about Aurora “having to live at home” so they could “afford” college or something of the sort.  She was trying to justify why she needed a house with so many bedrooms.

Yeah, because that many bedrooms cost so much, there wasn't enough left over to allow the kid to live at the school and be more part of the community (if not for covid, that is)

[ginger90]

[xwordfanatik]

Aw, Truely's kitty.  Keep her indoors, there are predators out there.  Don't they live in the country?

[iwantcookies]

Nike!

Boobs! 

 

 

[Gramto6]

Cats should always be kept indoors! There are so many predators out there especially if you are in the country.

[SuzWhat]

13 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Nike!

Boobs! 

 

 

Duggar reference for the win.

[deirdra]

The last photo Christine posted of kitty was taken indoors - and she was inside the refrigerator!  

[Sandy W]

7 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

the thing that bugs me about Christine is her penchant for pointing out how women in monogamous marriages don't have sister wives to help them meanwhile her sister wives don't give 2 shits about her struggles.

She's annoying as hell, I don't need sister wives because I have a mother, sisters and sisters in law and aunts and other women in my life but most importantly I have a husband who actually lives at our house 24/7 365 and has been there for me every single day, we are raising our children together because he isn't running all over town to spend time with other wives and children.

She just doesn't seem to get it that she not only short changed herself but more importantly she short changed her own children by agreeing to polygamy.

I wish she'd sit down and look into the camera and finally admit that polygamy SUCKS and that this whole fairytale of sister wives being the greatest thing on the planet is a big hot steaming pile of BULLSHIT!!! 💩

 

Succinct and to the point Dustbunny!  You have clearly stated how this goes against the grain of normal human emotions.  I have heard it said that polygamy teaches a woman to rise above petty instincts such as jealousy. 

As I see it, polygamy serves to pit one woman against another in the hope of outshining the others with their ability to raise more and better kids, be a more organized and complacent homemaker and they all must wonder how they stack up in the bedroom.

All for what?  That the best they could hope for in their case is 25% of a man that couldn't cut it if he was giving even 100% of himself.

[Art Of Noiz]

I've been re watching Escaping Polygamy. A few things caught my attention.

 

Leah who left the AUB said a female is taught homemaking skills, which is fine, but no skill set for the world outside. 

 

One of the Kingstons, maybe Kollene, was encouraging someone to let all her emotion out, because they weren't encouraged to express emotion. 

I watched Rachel Jeffs (LOVE HER!!!) speak. The soul of decorum, even when speaking of the horrific  atrocities her father inflicted on her. 

Also...not as significant, but one of the FLDS ladies said, ~ I wanna get rid of this wave (hair)...I wanna eat barbecued pork.~

Imo, Christine is so entrenched in the teachings she can't even wail out loud. She's trying to block her emotions. She does this with her sarcasm, her forced smiles, forced silliness. 

 

[Twopper]

31 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

As I see it, polygamy serves to pit one woman against another in the hope of outshining the others with their ability to raise more and better kids, be a more organized and complacent homemaker and they all must wonder how they stack up in the bedroom.

well, at least in this case it does.  I miss the comments by @Kyanight and her insight.  The Browns have always held themselves out as one family, which I understand is not always the case.  I don't know if Meri's dad and his five wives comprised one family or not, but since Kody got guidance from Meri's dad he probably patterned his plural marriage on that.

I think one reason Christine won't be leaving anytime soon is because she rilly believes in plural marriage despite saying she no longer wants to be married to Kody which I think means she no longer wants to be "married " to Robyn's legal and almost monogamous husband. She says she wants Kody to be her partner,  Businesses may do well with many partners, but marriages not so much.   In the book Janelle is not only disdainful of us monags, but she is scornful of plural families who don't live together and/or consider themselves to be separate families with one 'husband."  She would probably be happy sharing Kody with Janelle only.  Maybe she thinks Kody will eventually tire of Robyn.  I am not sure even Kody's treatment of Ysabel will motivate her to leave.  I doubt Christine has a clue about what she will do and she will take lessons from Meri in pretending.  At least Christine has a support group if she leaves,  but I am not sure that Meri does.   Janelle's grandfather disowned her for going polyg so I can't imagine her coming out and admitting Kody's experiment in plural marriage was a failure.  This whole group is a mess.

[say whaaaaa]

I occasionally watch Christine's LulaRoe lives on Facebook. (Don't judge me!)  One thing that I have taken notice of, which seems a fairly juicy tidbit of info considering the last Sister Wives Episode.....Christine is no longer wearing her Claddagh ring (or as Robin calls it, "Colada Ring")!!!  Haven't seen it on her in recent photos either.

Could it be she's escaped?!?  Scandalous!

[Art Of Noiz]

2 hours ago, say whaaaaa said:

I occasionally watch Christine's LulaRoe lives on Facebook. (Don't judge me!)  One thing that I have taken notice of, which seems a fairly juicy tidbit of info considering the last Sister Wives Episode.....Christine is no longer wearing her Claddagh ring (or as Robin calls it, "Colada Ring")!!!  Haven't seen it on her in recent photos either.

Could it be she's escaped?!?  Scandalous!

I watch them, too..shhh.

[deirdra]

17 hours ago, say whaaaaa said:

Christine is no longer wearing her Claddagh ring (or as Robin calls it, "Colada Ring")!!!  Haven't seen it on her in recent photos either.

Could it be she's escaped?!?  Scandalous!

Perhaps she sold it when trying to scrape together cash for Ysabel's surgery. Who would want to be constantly reminded of Kootie's favourite, Robyn, and her failed joory empire?

[Roslyn]

22 hours ago, Dustbunny said:

the thing that bugs me about Christine is her penchant for pointing out how women in monogamous marriages don't have sister wives to help them meanwhile her sister wives don't give 2 shits about her struggles.

I wish she'd sit down and look into the camera and finally admit that polygamy SUCKS and that this whole fairytale of sister wives being the greatest thing on the planet is a big hot steaming pile of BULLSHIT!!! 💩

 

I have always thought that Christine's "cheerleader for polygamy" was more to convince herself vs the general public, as well as making herself look really gung ho for Kody.

21 hours ago, Art Of Noiz said:

Imo, Christine is so entrenched in the teachings she can't even wail out loud. She's trying to block her emotions. She does this with her sarcasm, her forced smiles, forced silliness.

So many people see Christine as a fun and "life of the party" outgoing person.  I see someone who is miserable and hiding in plain sight.  She uses silly to cover and deflect when things get too "real" for her.

20 hours ago, Twopper said:

well, at least in this case it does.  I miss the comments by @Kyanight and her insight. 

...adding...me too.

I think one reason Christine won't be leaving anytime soon is because she rilly believes in plural marriage despite saying she no longer wants to be married to Kody which I think means she no longer wants to be "married " to Robyn's legal and almost monogamous husband. She says she wants Kody to be her partner,  Businesses may do well with many partners, but marriages not so much.  

I believe that what Christine wants is what Robyn has.  She wants her relationship with Kody to be what he ONLY has with Robyn.  Her jealousy isn't necessarily Robyn, but the true love/honor/respect relationship that she has always wanted, happening right in front of her, knowing that she has never had that relationship with Kody and never will. That shit has most likely eaten her from the inside out.

ETA: Christine has seen over the years that Kody is capable of that kind of relationship, for "some reason" (unless she does some painful deep personal exploratory therapy) just not with her.

Edited May 9, 2021 by Roslyn
additional thought

[LilyD]

 I am trying not to judge Christine too harshly. She was raised in this conservative and fundamental religion. Her brain, beliefs and knowledge are completely wired to fit into this religion. It is quite literally, set in stone.  She cannot change. She reminds me of all those women a few generations back who were trapped in loveless or abusive marriages. They didn't leave either because of social consequences and because the church specifically forbade divorce which they accepted. 

I guess most of struggle to understand this as we were raised to be responsible for our own choices and be independent women....

[Irate Panda]

I think Christine had her Claddagh/Colada/Colonic/Clown ring on in her Cinco de Mayo pic.  All of them (Christine,Janelle, Kody, and Meri) seem to have disappearing and reappearing rings.  I’m not sure about Robyn, I try to ignore her as much as I can.

[Sandy W]

14 minutes ago, LilyD said:

 I am trying not to judge Christine too harshly. She was raised in this conservative and fundamental religion. Her brain, beliefs and knowledge are completely wired to fit into this religion. It is quite literally, set in stone.  She cannot change. 

 

I would agree with this premise were it not for the fact that Christine's own mother and aunt broke away with probably much less exposure than Christine to life outside the confines of their religion.  I don't know what motivated their escape, there may have been physical as well as emotional abuse involved.

Christine may be hesitant to make that move, knowing that her mother and aunt were shunned by other family members and friends network but I feel she has a strong enough bond with her adult kids that they would not only welcome her, but perhaps applaud her decision.

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, Sandy W said:

I would agree with this premise were it not for the fact that Christine's own mother and aunt broke away with probably much less exposure than Christine to life outside the confines of their religion.  I don't know what motivated their escape, there may have been physical as well as emotional abuse involved.

Christine may be hesitant to make that move, knowing that her mother and aunt were shunned by other family members and friends network but I feel she has a strong enough bond with her adult kids that they would not only welcome her, but perhaps applaud her decision.

I agree.  I'd bet that at least Paedon, Gwen, Ysabel and Truely would understand if Christine decided to move away from that mess of a 'marriage' she's tolerated all these years.  Aspyn and Mykelti, maybe?  

 

[Canadian Girl]

2 hours ago, LilyD said:

She cannot change. 

I disagree. 

[HighlandWarriorGrl]

I am very conflicted about what to think of Christine.  I go back and forth from feeling sorry for her (especially in the season finale), and being spitting mad at her.  Look, especially on this Mother’s Day, I have to say woman, if you don’t respect and love yourself enough to get away from that piece of shit man you call a (1/4) husband, at least love and respect your children enough to get them out of there!  I mean damn!  Not only do they see that he doesn’t care about or know them, they have to watch other children in another household have a real dad relationship with him, and bonus - they get to watch the mom they love cry and be treated like poo on the bottom of his shoe.  Christine, what exactly do you think that is doing to your children?  If a stranger like me feels murderous about Kootie, imagine what your babies are feeling.  Maybe you are willing to accept 3rd rate garbage in your life, but what mother wants 3rd rate garbage for her children?  And no, you can’t make up for their lack of a father by being funny and fun.  If they didn’t have a dad in the picture it would be better than having their noses rubbed into their dad’s distain and neglect.  And yet, after all we’ve seen and heard this last season, there she still sits.  Unbelievable.  Sorry, just unbelievable.