Christine Brown Woolley: Nacho Sister Wife Anymore

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Maybe that’s why Mykelti isn’t so anti Robyn….she may know things about all of the wives that isn’t so Christian like.  

I only quoted a bit of your post but I can see this. Children SEE their parents. Yes of course children love their parents, and can be bias because of that, but children see their parents day in and day out, when no one else is watching, and behind closed doors. They see their "true" behavior and not the mask adults put on for other adults (and parents are often blind to what their children see because they are children).

If the child says xyz was going on in the home, I tend to believe them, because they were there!

I also think it's possible Mykelti just likes Robyn as a person, and thats just that. That doesn't mean she doesn't know why Christine can't stand her, doesn't mean that she thinks Christine should've stayed with Kody, she's just doing her own thing. I don't think Christine has a problem with Mykelti liking Robyn. Its not like Christine has to see Robyn all the time or anything like that.

[Tuxcat]

3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

So, I found it totally ridiculous that even after all that counseling, two of the wives couldn’t be bothered to mumble a polite hello when meeting at the mailbox.

The wives, and Kody, all have such emotional immaturity and poor coping skills. Add that to an already ridiculous ideology and it's basically a recipe for disaster.

I always think back to that scene where the grandmothers are talking about polygamy. Kody's mom and Janelle's mom were outright sobbing as they discussed the tremendous pain they dealt with for a lot of years. Sheryl (Janelle's mom) said "it was hell."  Kody's mom had trouble accepting Janelle's mom. She said she was "extremely jealous." She sobs and says "it had to come from me changing and not expecting everything around me to change." She said she was "too self centered and too selfish." Janelle's mom says you have to be firmly committed that this is where you want to be and this is what you want to do as you lay brick by brick and develop unconditional love for one another and accept one another as you are."

The comments baffle me because its the wives who buy into this ideology. That in some way this pain, and these awful times are worth it in some way.

Willing to bet a lot of money that those sister wives didn't become close until AFTER Kody's dad was already becoming ill and therefore out of the equation.

[xwordfanatik]

24 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

The wives, and Kody, all have such emotional immaturity and poor coping skills. Add that to an already ridiculous ideology and it's basically a recipe for disaster.

I always think back to that scene where the grandmothers are talking about polygamy. Kody's mom and Janelle's mom were outright sobbing as they discussed the tremendous pain they dealt with for a lot of years. Sheryl (Janelle's mom) said "it was hell."  Kody's mom had trouble accepting Janelle's mom. She said she was "extremely jealous." She sobs and says "it had to come from me changing and not expecting everything around me to change." She said she was "too self centered and too selfish." Janelle's mom says you have to be firmly committed that this is where you want to be and this is what you want to do as you lay brick by brick and develop unconditional love for one another and accept one another as you are."

The comments baffle me because its the wives who buy into this ideology. That in some way this pain, and these awful times are worth it in some way.

Willing to bet a lot of money that those sister wives didn't become close until AFTER Kody's dad was already becoming ill and therefore out of the equation.

I also remember Kootie's mom saying (paraphrasing) "she (meaning Sheryl) took care of Winn, and I took care of the kids."

Kind of the way Christine and Sobbyn ended up, except Christine was not OK with having nothing from Kootie, for herself or for her kids.  "Keeping sweet" did Christine or her children no favors.  ☹️

[Joan of Argh]

I wanted to hit Christine over the head with a baseball bat when she said  “when Kody looks at you you’re the MOST loved woman in the universe!!” Or however she worded it, she sounded like a damn fool!

especially since Kody has said he never loved Christine and even found her repulsive at times and only married her for her royal polygamy pedigree!

I mean for Christ sake Christine, listen to the dumb shit that flows out of your mouth!!!

meanwhile Robyn and Kody are making up lies to bury her and stupid bloody Christine is gushing about Kody and having heart palpitations!

that’s the thing about Christine that annoys me, she’s like a 13 yr old girl talking about her dreamboat boyfriend…. She just doesn’t get it, any guy can do that shit but REAL DEEP LOVE is something completely different, REAL LOVE is how he has looked at and treated Robyn since Day 1…. Not some silly googly eyes for 5 minutes before he gets his rocks off!

Christine needs to grow up and think before she speaks! Ugh!

[Cetacean]

Christine is a total airhead and always has been.  Just because she left doesn't win her any points.  I mean if you get treated like crap for 25 years and finally decides, duh, that's not a good thing is a pretty slow learner.

The whole "I'm not meeeeannnn" thing had me rolling my eyes.  I can totally see how she would come across that way.  She's another drama queen.

[SunnyBeBe]

I wonder if Christine made the comment about how Kody could look at you and make you feel so loved, in order to explain that even in bad marriages, the person who is so hurtful usually has some good traits too.  There’s often some positive things that cause you to stay.  In the end, maybe all the good things are gone, but for a while you keep hoping they”ll return. Obviously, she’s past that now.  

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I wonder if Christine made the comment about how Kody could look at you and make you feel so loved, in order to explain that even in bad marriages, the person who is so hurtful usually has some good traits too.  There’s often some positive things that cause you to stay.  In the end, maybe all the good things are gone, but for a while you keep hoping they”ll return. Obviously, she’s past that now.  

That makes sense to me. Rarely is someone 100% a monster and awful from the early days. I can believe Christine had a lot of good times with Kody and was attached to the memory of that. I can also see how someone can have "blindness" to what is not a "rough patch" but the person not caring any more. Emotions are complex.

I mentioned in this forum (either here or another thread) that the breakdown of my relationship with my cousin last year reminded me of a divorce. (I have never been partnered) The years of happy memories, and the joy, and the deep love, and the feelings of betrayal and distrust in the face of someone you love so much is like a cognitive dissonance. That someone you love could hurt you so deeply is like "woah". You start to think "am I in a movie??" I could see the extra layer of Christine growing up in the AUB, her lower expectations of Kody ANYWAY, her losing her role as a caregiver etc taking her a long time to see that "her Kody" wasnt coming back.

[SunnyBeBe]

Bringing my question about Christine from Kody thread here.  There was discussion a bout some of her pronunciations.  What kind of accent does she have?  It doesn’t sound like the other adults to me.  It’s sort of overly stated to me.  As if she’s in front of the English class and being graded, so she’s trying to stick every consonant.  Lol. I like it though.  

[Tuxcat]

11 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I like it though.  

I find it incredibly annoyingk

She has a lot vocal fry and she also goes from yell talking to dramatic whispering. But I also have misophonia which means I get hung up (and sometimes enraged) by sound. 

I don't know where it's from but it probably contributed to Janelle calling her a princess lol

Edited January 5, 2023 by Tuxcat
changed a word

[Absolom]

I think it may be a southern Utah thing.  My granddaughter started picking it up after they started going to Bryan Head after stopping in St George or Parowan on the way in and out.  I've been working with her to drop it.  Obviously not everyone there has it.

My daughter started saying fir instead of for after the trips began.  I can't correct her any more, but I'd like to.

Edited January 5, 2023 by Absolom

[Art Of Noiz]

11 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Bringing my question about Christine from Kody thread here.  There was discussion a bout some of her pronunciations.  What kind of accent does she have?  It doesn’t sound like the other adults to me.  It’s sort of overly stated to me.  As if she’s in front of the English class and being graded, so she’s trying to stick every consonant.  Lol. I like it though.  

I think it's German. Iirc, Gma Annie's mom, Anna Waltraut was an immigrant from Germany when she married Gma Annie's biodad, Floren LeBaron. She left Floren, and married Owen Allred. Gma Annie has the same accent. The ink for ing reminds me of ZsaZsa Gabor. 😃.  Dahlink.

 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157959307/waltraut-anna-allred

This pic reminds me of Ysabel. 

P.s. I'm not Mormon, but I love genealogy. I have scottish ancestors. It explains to me the pronunciations of my hillbilly ancestors. 

[Just Wondering]

I just watched a clip of Christine discussing how her current hairstyle  makes her look like a “frickin’ polygamist”.  I’m wondering if her necklace is from MSWC. Any thoughts?

[ginger90]

14 hours ago, Just Wondering said:

I just watched a clip of Christine discussing how her current hairstyle  makes her look like a “frickin’ polygamist”.  I’m wondering if her necklace is from MSWC. Any thoughts?

I’m thinking Etsy.

[Elizzikra]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I’m thinking Etsy.

I actually like that.

[MaddyMaeboxerbabe]

That necklace is much nicer than anything Kody and Robyn created for the closet!

[ginger90]

[Pickleinthemiddle]

I think Christine did the best she could in a situation that was never going to get better.  I think she finally realized that and that's when Janelle told her you have to have a way to support yourself if you are leaving.  I don't think she got everyone over to her side.  I think they all saw how the moms were being treated before they even left home.

Not saying Christine doesn't have faults, we all do.  But all three of the original families didn't stand a chance once Kody fell in love with Robyn.  

[Libby]

Truley in the background!!!🤣

 

[ginger90]

Posted by Christine:

 

Edited January 18, 2023 by ginger90

[HoneyBeach]

On 12/5/2022 at 3:56 PM, Irate Panda said:

Meanwhile the sporadic $200/hr probably comes from him hiding in an overly stuffed closet filming Cameos while his kid is screaming and his wife is spending $300/hr online ordering crystals and She-Ra dolls.

Christine should get an order for child support and it has to be in the form of actual money not unpurchased goods from MSWC. 

And is Kody, as Truely's father, hampered down with any of the hospital debt?

[Tuxcat]

TLC planning a single life spin off? I would not enjoy at all - though I hope she finds happiness.

[LilyD]

On 1/8/2023 at 1:26 AM, ginger90 said:

This picture...have they ever heard of SIDS and how to keep the chances of this happening as small as possible? 

1. You do not put babies to sleep on their stomachs! It goes against all health guidelines and researches as there is a huge chance it will affect their breathing through carbon dioxide build-up or suffocating.

2. Always make sure a baby cannot be suffocated by something in their cribs, whether it's stuffed toys or in this case a sibling that is literally shoved in their faces.

Sorry, this whole picture makes me nervous (and yes, a little angry). I know there were guidelines in the past about letting babies sleep on their stomachs but since then, there has been so many research into crib deaths and how to let your baby sleep safely. You'd think that's common knowledge by now, or at least one of the first things they tell you when you have a newborn?

 

[Elizzikra]

2 hours ago, LilyD said:

This picture...have they ever heard of SIDS and how to keep the chances of this happening as small as possible? 

1. You do not put babies to sleep on their stomachs! It goes against all health guidelines and researches as there is a huge chance it will affect their breathing through carbon dioxide build-up or suffocating.

2. Always make sure a baby cannot be suffocated by something in their cribs, whether it's stuffed toys or in this case a sibling that is literally shoved in their faces.

Sorry, this whole picture makes me nervous (and yes, a little angry). I know there were guidelines in the past about letting babies sleep on their stomachs but since then, there has been so many research into crib deaths and how to let your baby sleep safely. You'd think that's common knowledge by now, or at least one of the first things they tell you when you have a newborn?

 

It may depend on the state, or even the hospital, but when I worked in a maternity ward a million years ago we 1) taught safe sleep in the new parents' class offered every day to every new parent and family member who wanted to attend and 2) we included information on safe sleep in the materials sent home with parents. 

[RazzleberryPie]

Welp hate to defend them, but they are standing right over top of the napping babies, not like they’ve left them alone all night. My twins also always ended up wadded up in each others faces, even if swaddled next to each other. 

[TurtlePower]

14 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

TLC planning a single life spin off? I would not enjoy at all - though I hope she finds happiness.

I sure hope not. I’m happy for her but would not watch this. I worry about suitors only in it for the reality TV money not wanting to get to know the real Christine.

But if that’s the case I bet Meri is fuming. First Christine gets a small cooking show, and now (maybe) this. I’m always tickled to see Meri green with envy, all while pretending she is a powerful “boss babe”. Christine’s happy? Dating? Cue the filtered “I’m awesome” Meri Brown IG posts 😂.

Edited to add: obviously speculating, no evidence to suggest any of this. 

Edited January 30, 2023 by TurtlePower

[Cetacean]

50 minutes ago, TurtlePower said:

I sure hope not. I’m happy for her but would not watch this. I worry about suitors only in it for the reality TV money not wanting to get to know the real Christine.

Right there with you. What self-respecting man wants to have his every move documented whilst listening to the whispery voice simpering about dating at 50.

Hard pass on watching any of that.

[Ms.Lulu]

8 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

Right there with you. What self-respecting man wants to have his every move documented whilst listening to the whispery voice simpering about dating at 50.

Hard pass on watching any of that.

Chris Marek found love with Amy Roloff after 50 on another TLC show. And audiences loved it.

I think there would be an audience. Maybe just not any of us.

Edited January 30, 2023 by Ms.Lulu

[Irate Panda]

I think people would watch a dating show with Christine, but I personally don’t care about her dating life.  Honestly, I think for me Christine was pretty tolerable on Sister Wives because I was always comparing her to Kody, Robyn, and Meri. I also felt bad because it seemed like her kids got shafted a lot of the time.  However, there were times she was overly dramatic and really irritating to me, so I’d probably have a harder time watching a show where she is the main focus.  

[RazzleberryPie]

I’d anticipate a lot of breath talk and gushing about how she’s only ever dated one man, doesn’t know how to navigate dating, acting shocked, setting her up with some ethnicities and lifestyles that are far from AUB types, no real intention of finding Mr Right. Christine is dramatic and knows how to put on a show. She may get a season or two of a starting over dating show. 

Meri - she can’t string a convo together or answer anything directly, and she’s smug or defensive. No show for her that anyone will watch. 

Janelle is steady but boring. Maybe a fun side bar to Christine’s show, but not enough to carry her own.

Nobody wants to watch just Robyn and Kody unless they start looking for another victim and that victim ends up playing them for fools. I can’t imagine what it would take for them to redeem themselves with the hole they’ve dug. 

[General Days]

2 hours ago, Cetacean said:

Right there with you. What self-respecting man wants to have his every move documented whilst listening to the whispery voice simpering about dating at 50.

Hard pass on watching any of that.

Yeah. If she finds a guy ready to have their fledgling relationship documented on a TLC reality TV series, she is probably going to end up with something not that different from that which she just fled — maybe not a polygamist, but an attention vampire? Probably.

[ginger90]

A comment I saw on Christine’s Instagram post:

“Run away if they think love should be multiplied not divided “

[nosedive]

19 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

 

 

Yes, Christine, I have some advice. Thanks for asking. Don't post every jot or tittle of your personal life on social media. 1. It will attract the wrong kind of guy and scare off the right kind and 2. Nobody cares.  Hope this helps.  Happy to oblige.

[Rabbit Hutch]

I really wish Christine the best, but I'm pretty much done with this whole family.  After the original show wraps I may tune into a 5 or 10 year "Where Are They Now" eppies, but I'm over these people.  

[xwordfanatik]

Well, if Kootie is done with 3 out of 4 wives, why shouldn't we be done, too?

I have no interest in the Kootie and Sobbyn show.  

1 hour ago, nosedive said:

Yes, Christine, I have some advice. Thanks for asking. Don't post every jot or tittle of your personal life on social media. 1. It will attract the wrong kind of guy and scare off the right kind and 2. Nobody cares.  Hope this helps.  Happy to oblige.

I totally agree.  Social Media has become a gigantic PITA.

[Natalie68]

On 12/31/2022 at 9:01 AM, Celia Rubenstein said:

Meri wouldn't let the kids cross through her space to get back and forth between Janelle's and Christine's homes when they lived in Lehi (to be honest, I'm not sure I would have cared for that either). So I don't know if it was that it was because they don't get along or that she just doesn't want anyone else (not her own kid) in her house.  Maybe it's both. This is Meri we are talking about, after all.

I wonder if she ever regrets being such a hardass about everything with the kids now that she is so isolated.  She could have had them gathering around her the way Christine does.  She always talked about having everyone at her house (to enjoy pastries on the wetbar, lol) but she did so little to actually encourage it.  Looking back, it now seems rather insincere. 

What I want to know, is WHY didn't Kody make it so Janelle and Christine didn't have to go outside to get into each others homes? Like cut a door in a wall?  Enclose the outside path? Nah, let's just leave it a bad situation.  

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

I think people would watch a dating show with Christine, but I personally don’t care about her dating life.  Honestly, I think for me Christine was pretty tolerable on Sister Wives because I was always comparing her to Kody, Robyn, and Meri. I also felt bad because it seemed like her kids got shafted a lot of the time.  However, there were times she was overly dramatic and really irritating to me, so I’d probably have a harder time watching a show where she is the main focus.  

I would watch it.  Especially if there was a scene of her stopping at a gas station for full serve and telling new employee Robyn not to scratch her car.

[GeeGolly]

46 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I would watch it.  Especially if there was a scene of her stopping at a gas station for full serve and telling new employee Robyn not to scratch her car.

While Kody brings her some cheese nachos.

[Celia Rubenstein]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

While Kody brings hand feeds her some cheese nachos.

FIFY! 

[Art Of Noiz]

On 1/29/2023 at 3:34 PM, Tuxcat said:

TLC planning a single life spin off? I would not enjoy at all - though I hope she finds happiness.

I would loathe, hate, abhor, despise a dating show. Some things should be private. 

[Joan of Argh]

On 12/31/2022 at 9:01 AM, Celia Rubenstein said:

Meri wouldn't let the kids cross through her space to get back and forth between Janelle's and Christine's homes when they lived in Lehi (to be honest, I'm not sure I would have cared for that either). So I don't know if it was that it was because they don't get along or that she just doesn't want anyone else (not her own kid) in her house.  Maybe it's both. This is Meri we are talking about, after all.

I wonder if she ever regrets being such a hardass about everything with the kids now that she is so isolated.  She could have had them gathering around her the way Christine does.  She always talked about having everyone at her house (to enjoy pastries on the wetbar, lol) but she did so little to actually encourage it.  Looking back, it now seems rather insincere. 

Maybe if Meri ever thought beyond her own preference she might have wondered if Christine who already had 5-6 kids of her own wanted Meri’s kid plunked at her dinner table on a regular basis.

IIRC Christine let Leon have dinner at her table with the other kids because Christine is nice that way but Meri didn’t want kids walking through her suite so they can just walk outside in the cold rather than bother Queen Meri by walking through her suite.

Leon wasn’t the nicest kid to be around and I’m sure Christine would have liked a break from all the kids at her place sometimes.

HBIC Meri was so selfish and petty.

[Adiba]

7 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

What I want to know, is WHY didn't Kody make it so Janelle and Christine didn't have to go outside to get into each others homes? Like cut a door in a wall?  Enclose the outside path? Nah, let's just leave it a bad situation.  

Right? Couldn’t Kody at least have built a covered paved pathway so that the kids would be somewhat protected in bad weather? Or Kody could’ve decreed that the kids would be permitted once a day to go back at forth thru Meri’s at set times?

It seems thatMeri wanted it both ways—to be listened to and respected as a “bonus mom” but not the inconvenience, noise, mess, etc. of actually being a mother to all of those kids.

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, Adiba said:

Right? Couldn’t Kody at least have built a covered paved pathway so that the kids would be somewhat protected in bad weather? Or Kody could’ve decreed that the kids would be permitted once a day to go back at forth thru Meri’s at set times?

It seems thatMeri wanted it both ways—to be listened to and respected as a “bonus mom” but not the inconvenience, noise, mess, etc. of actually being a mother to all of those kids.

Kody should have stepped in as the “head” of the family and set some standards so Meri wouldn’t have kids in and out if her suite 10 times a day but still allow for reasonable use by the kids, like you said… allowing them access to walk through Meri’s suite a couple times a day, no roughhousing, screaming, running etc… just walk through quietly.

Problem is he never cared enough about any of the original wives to bother he also let Meri bully Janelle and Christine and now says that he should have nipped that in the bud.

I think he enjoyed the original wives jealously fighting with each other over him.

Kody only began to “care” when Robyn came along and he’s made sure to step in and protect Robyn from any inconvenience by the other wives or kids.

[Tuxcat]

36 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

I think he enjoyed the original wives jealously fighting with each other over him

Definitely. That's why we've had to hear a thirty year old kitchen story about six billion times.

2 hours ago, Adiba said:

Right? Couldn’t Kody at least have built a covered paved pathway so that the kids would be somewhat protected in bad weather? Or Kody could’ve decreed that the kids would be permitted once a day to go back at forth thru Meri’s at set times?

I often wonder what the set up was prior to Lehi. (and prior to Janelle living separately for two years). Janelle, Meri and Kody shared a house and Christine had an apartment next door. I am imagining those kids trashing both places. 

I can see a case for not wanting the kids to be allowed in my space untethered. Even in Vegas, Janelle and Christine's stuff was torn apart. Meri did say that her "off limits" thing wasn't all the time- but whatever the rules, it upset Janelle.

But An easy arrangement could have been made. The kids are supervised going from one house to another. There is a schedule. There is a canopy out back that connects the five feet between Christine's door and Janelles. Something.

But no, Kody and his wives let all this fester - for decades. 

Idk - If I were forced to live polygamy I'd want my own separate house (preferably far away). None of this "one house/one family" crap.

[Joan of Argh]

30 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Definitely. That's why we've had to hear a thirty year old kitchen story about six billion times.

I often wonder what the set up was prior to Lehi. (and prior to Janelle living separately for two years). Janelle, Meri and Kody shared a house and Christine had an apartment next door. I am imagining those kids trashing both places. 

I can see a case for not wanting the kids to be allowed in my space untethered. Even in Vegas, Janelle and Christine's stuff was torn apart. Meri did say that her "off limits" thing wasn't all the time- but whatever the rules, it upset Janelle.

But An easy arrangement could have been made. The kids are supervised going from one house to another. There is a schedule. There is a canopy out back that connects the five feet between Christine's door and Janelles. Something.

But no, Kody and his wives let all this fester - for decades. 

Idk - If I were forced to live polygamy I'd want my own separate house (preferably far away). None of this "one house/one family" crap.

Ya it’s shocking that with all those adults they couldn’t solve something as simple as access between the living areas without it festering for years and still being a bone of contention all these years later.

I think part of the problem is that none of them just speak the truth and face the issues head on, there’s a whole lot of double talk, walls going up and complaints of certain conversations not being “safe”. 🙄

maybe it’s just me but I’d never heard of such ridiculous shit until I started watching the Browns and it only got worse with the addition of Nancy the supposed therapist.

[laurakaye]

11 hours ago, Adiba said:

It seems that Meri wanted it both ways—to be listened to and respected as a “bonus mom” but not the inconvenience, noise, mess, etc. of actually being a mother to all of those kids.

Perfect.  I think she assumed that as the legal first wife of Big Daddy Kody, respect and authority was part of her title.  And when she saw that Kody wasn't stopping her reign of terror, she went on doing it.

I also think that Kody 100% let Meri run unchecked because if there was drama amongst his wives, the focus was off of him and he could pop on his sun visor and jump into his convertible any time he wanted and leave the drama behind.  He wanted the wives, he just didn't want their silly messy fillings.

[sheshark]

Is no one curious enough to look up her online dating profile?  I mean she has to have a picture up and some content.  

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, sheshark said:

Is no one curious enough to look up her online dating profile?  I mean she has to have a picture up and some content.  

Someone more computer-able than I am, would have to do that.  I'm too technologically impaired to try.

[Cetacean]

5 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I'm too technologically impaired to try.

I am too emotinally uncaring to try.

[sheshark]

It made be made for tv dates.

[MamaMax]

On 1/31/2023 at 12:26 AM, Joan of Argh said:

Ya it’s shocking that with all those adults they couldn’t solve something as simple as access between the living areas without it festering for years and still being a bone of contention all these years later.

I think part of the problem is that none of them just speak the truth and face the issues head on, there’s a whole lot of double talk, walls going up and complaints of certain conversations not being “safe”. 🙄

maybe it’s just me but I’d never heard of such ridiculous shit until I started watching the Browns and it only got worse with the addition of Nancy the supposed therapist.

ALSO - I assume Meri wanted the middle unit because it was the best one, right? Cuz to my mind the easiest fix would be for merit o be top or bottom so that J and C kids could freely move between the 2 units.