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Mabinogia

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For me, personally, Buffy will always be Sarah Michelle Gellar. I know she wasn't the first Buffy but that movie was abysmal so I don't count it as real Buffy. So unless they did a Buffy is now a soccer mom trying to keep her family safe from all the Big Bads that come her way, oh, or trying to prevent her daughter from being chosen as the next slayer... I have no interest in a new Buffy. I do think that a lot of the magic of the show was the cast, so IDK that a new Buffy would be as successful, unless lightning strikes again re: casting. 

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Reading the description above, the fresh take is the story is not going to be all black trauma all of the time. We need to see black joy as well as the pain.  Middle class and above black families hav

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46 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

For me, personally, Buffy will always be Sarah Michelle Gellar. I know she wasn't the first Buffy but that movie was abysmal so I don't count it as real Buffy. So unless they did a Buffy is now a soccer mom trying to keep her family safe from all the Big Bads that come her way, oh, or trying to prevent her daughter from being chosen as the next slayer... I have no interest in a new Buffy. I do think that a lot of the magic of the show was the cast, so IDK that a new Buffy would be as successful, unless lightning strikes again re: casting. 

I'm not interested in a Buffy reboot with a different actress.  But that sounds like the thing I'd like to see least in the world.  Probably because we already saw in and it was the downfall of the show to me.  I wasn't thrilled with Buffy the abbreviated college years.  But poof Buffy has a sister.  Then her mother dies.  Now Buffy is basically a single mother figure trying to balance that and slaying.  Maybe I could have liked it if it was a series that happened years later.  But it was to too much of a transition for the original run and left a bad taste for me.

methodwriter85

methodwriter85

On 9/2/2022 at 3:20 AM, kathyk24 said:

I like the new Fantasy Island reboot. The show doesn't forget the original series but has new characters and plotlines. The main character Elena is Mr. Roarke's niece and she has a more friendly relationship with her assistant than Mr. Roarke had with Tattoo.

It flopped though, like the first reboot from 1998. Kind of interesting they just can't really get anything to stick. The movie didn't do that well, either.

Twilight Man

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On 8/13/2015 at 4:20 PM, Kromm said:

The Latest: Will Smith wants to ruin his own legacy by rebooting "Fresh Prince of Bel Air"

On 8/13/2015 at 6:36 PM, bmasters9 said:

In my opinion, both the remakes of Dallas and Hawaii Five-O (today's version called Hawaii Five-0; notice the difference) are far inferior to the original-recipe versions of those same shows.

On 8/15/2015 at 6:26 PM, BW Manilowe said:

From TVLine.com:

Stars & Producers Pick the Shows They'd Like to Revive

http://tvline.com/2015/08/15/tv-show-revival-reboot-actors-producers-wish-list/

Reboot it, renew it, reshoot it, redo it......................

OK, so, this has been my big "nit-pick" question all along.................

Just what is a reboot???   What is a remake?????   What is a revival??????

and all of these other names (sequel????    sequel series???)

Asking Hollywood to clarify is impossible, since Hollywood likes to take

that six letter "buzzword" and declare everything to be a reboot-----

so I'm asking all of you...........

As far as I can tell, there are three (or four??)  different types of "nostalgia" projects------

Type one:     A whole new group of actors and actresses are pretending to be the characters that the original group of actors and actresses portrayed 25-40 years ago

(Dynasty TV show, Fresh Prince TV show, Starsky and Hutch movie, Get Smart movie, hell, many (but not all --- see below) of the "nostalgia" movies, the "new" Star Trek movies)

Type two:   It's just like Type One, but they are actually "redoing" the exact (90 - 95%) script that the original group did as well.

(Musicals like "The Producers" and "The Music Man", That "new" Psycho )

Type Three:   A whole new group of actors and actresses are portraying new characters (mostly), but the show/movie has a "connection" to the original show/movie

(Quantum Leap, Chucky, Charmed, Charlie's Angels, Mission: Impossible)

Type Four:   It's the same group of actors and actresses (mostly) twenty - forty years later, still portraying the same characters

(Dallas, Mad About You, Will and Grace, Punky Brewster, Saved By The Bell, the "old" Star Trek movies)

It is like apples and oranges  ----  yes, they are both fruit, but they are not the same.

(and not all apples are the same ---  red delicious, granny smith, macintosh)

They all can't be the same,  so which one is which??????

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18 hours ago, Twilight Man said:

OK, so, this has been my big "nit-pick" question all along.................

Just what is a reboot???   What is a remake?????   What is a revival??????

and all of these other names (sequel????    sequel series???)

To answer your question:

A remake is just that, remaking a series from years ago.  They generally try to remain faithful to the spirit of the original, but will rework things that were accepted then, but are more problematic now (casual racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.) ex. Charmed, MacGuyver

The dividing line between a remake and a reboot is often blurry, and reboot is often just a fancy buzzword for remake, but a reboot often takes a different tone than the original, usually darker and edgier. ex. Battlestar Galactica

A revival is when they bring back a series with the original characters (usually) played by original actors, often mentoring the new younger characters.  The focus can vary between the original and new characters depending on how old they were in the original and how long between it and the revival. ex. Cobra Kai, Saved by the Bell

It's a sliding scale between a revival and a sequel but in a sequel, while set in the same continuity of an older show, it focuses almost entirely on newer characters. ex. Quantum Leap

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On 11/23/2022 at 2:12 AM, Lugal said:

The dividing line between a remake and a reboot is often blurry, and reboot is often just a fancy buzzword for remake, but a reboot often takes a different tone than the original, usually darker and edgier. ex. Battlestar Galactica

Huh. I've always figured that a reboot is like a cross between a remake and a revival - set in the same universe but with different "new generation" characters, sometimes mentioning or referencing the original characters, but mostly disregarding the original continuity/characters. Or is that a requel/legacyquel? Ugh, these terms get so blurry. But thanks for clearing it up, Lugal.

I feel like the "gritty" part of reboots was incidental, being that most reboots were resurrected corpses of classic TV shows for the more modern, and therefore presumably, "cynical" audiences. For example, technically speaking, Spider-Man: Homecoming is a reboot of sorts, but it's definitely far lighter than the gritty Amazing Spider-Man films.

I also looked up on the definition of reboot on Google, and it gave me this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reboot_(fiction)

"In serial fiction, the term "reboot" signifies a new start to an established fictional universe, work, or series. A reboot discards continuity to re-create its characters, plotlines and backstory from the beginning."

Which got me thinking... what about continuity reboots? Because there have been "soft reboots" that do acknowledge continuity. Ugh. Like I said, such a mess.

I'm not keen on the Buffy reboot either, but to be fair, since there was already a Buffy remake that kinda became super-popular in the '90s, a "reimagining" being good isn't impossible. Remakes and reboots are like tropes: they're not bad when used well. For a recent example: The Batman.

janie jones

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17 hours ago, JustHereForFood said:

Type 2 is basically any theatre production, so there is a way where it works. Maybe it could work for some sitcom that was very theatre-like.

Yeah, plays are intended to be able to be produced multiple times, so it doesn't bother me if they make multiple movie versions of them. The ski lodge episode of Frasier strikes me as something that might be interesting to see made with different people, kind of like what they did with the episode of All in the Family and the other shows.

To be honest, I think it would be cool to get four directors with very different styles creating short films with the exact same script, and package it as one movie. Like, the Vagina Monologue "The Flood" was presented as sad the first time I saw it and as funny the second time I saw it, so I think the same could be done with a short film. Now that I think about it, I feel like this has been done before. Has it?

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45 minutes ago, BetterButter said:

The Avengers reboot in the works with Industry and Sex Education talent

I wish I had high hopes that we'd get something worthy of the original 60s series, but I fear it'll be closer to the 1998 Ralph Fiennes/Uma Thurman travesty of a film. It is not encouraging that the article refers to Patrick Macnee, Honor Blackman and Dame Diana Rigg (Steed, Cathy Gale and Emma Peel) as "a trio." The focus was always on the duo of Steed and his female partner, with Rigg stepping in when Blackman left after Season/Series 3, and then Linda Thorson (Tara King) replacing Rigg after Season/Series 6. I do find it encouraging news that the reboot will be helmed by Brits, who hopefully have the vision to recapture the cool, classy, understated style of the original. 🤞

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giovannif7

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7 hours ago, Trini said:

'‘Bewitched’ Series Reboot In Works From Judalina Neira'

Sounds like they are going in a more dramatic rather than comedic direction?

JFC - have they learned nothing from the vitriol aimed at the idiots who think they can just throw in edgy twists when updating classics without pissing people off? Just call it something else and change the names of the characters - there's no reason to desecrate the collective memories of fans of the original. Or maybe they think that any buzz is good buzz, and the endless pummeling that plagued the atrocious movie updates of The Avengers, The Wild Wild West and, yes, Bewitched, will wind up bringing tons of attention to their ill-conceived project? 😠😖

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On 2/14/2024 at 3:41 PM, Trini said:

'‘Bewitched’ Series Reboot In Works From Judalina Neira'

Sounds like they are going in a more dramatic rather than comedic direction?

Someone with the power of a god, preferring to be a housewife isn’t a really modern, timely idea. I hope, anyway. Maybe she will be the executive and Darrin will stay at home, fielding weird relatives. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the original, but it was rooted in some series 1950s tropes. They would have to play with those. I wonder if they can get Kate McKinnon for Samantha? Actually, can we do it as a spinoff of the movie “Barbie”?.

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Mabinogia

Mabinogia

Well that looks...awful. And like another "reboot" in name only that bares only the shallowest of connections to the source material. Good Times had heart, at it's core was a family you (well, me anyway) loved and cared about. Not whatever this is meant to be. 

On the plus side, Netflix continues to confirm that I made the right choice in cancelling my subscription.

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GHScorpiosRule

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1 hour ago, Browncoat said:

Did Norman Lear know about this before he died?  

I don't have Netflix, and this does not make me want to rush out and sign up.

According to the article, this was supposed to be released in 2020? Or Seth was in talks back then? I can’t imagine Lear agreeing if he saw what my eyes cannot now unsee.

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On 3/29/2024 at 3:45 PM, Mabinogia said:

Well that looks...awful. And like another "reboot" in name only that bares only the shallowest of connections to the source material. Good Times had heart, at it's core was a family you (well, me anyway) loved and cared about. Not whatever this is meant to be. 

It's a show which definitely could be updated to our time in a funny and sensitive manner.  This, however, is not that.

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7 hours ago, Quof said:

Now off to find the tea, given Stacey and Clinton's public feud.

There feud always struck me as strange.  It sounds like it was about Stacey not liking how frank Kelly was in his book about the fact they sometimes had tension filming the show together and the headlines got to her.  But it doesn't sound like there was some major event, just more like she's on the sensitive side and he's more on the blunt side.  I always felt that they'd eventually put it to bed.

 

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proserpina65

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On 8/27/2024 at 4:40 AM, Quof said:

What Not to Wear

is coming back in a new iteration, Wear Whatever the F You Want.

I woke up to this.  Now off to find the tea, given Stacey and Clinton's public feud.

I always hated the American version, for a lot of reasons mostly involving Stacey and Clinton and their shitty attitudes towards their victims.  And I already mostly wear whatever the fuck I want (within my job's dress code) so why the hell would I watch this?

A reboot with Trinny and Susannah from the vastly superior original would be on my "must watch" list however.  Hell, I've even applied some of their advice to my own wardrobe over the years, and now describe my shoulders as sloping Victorian shoulders.

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