Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[emma675]

54 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

 

That is quite the 80s truck stop hooker look she's rocking. 

I also hate that they treat God like he's some magic genie and if they just pray hard enough all of their wishes will be granted. That's not how any of this works.

[Sew Sumi]

I was totally thinking of that Pris/Meech video when I saw Prissy "speak" this morning. 😂

Edited April 27, 2020 by Sew Sumi
Clarity bc a post snuck in between the one I referenced but didn't quote

[galaxygirl76]

Close or close-ish pictures of Jill should come with a warning, especially right before bedtime.

[Zella]

I cannot watch videos of Pris because I feel so profoundly uncomfortable trying to listen to her prattle on. She is the only fundie that has broken me in this way. 

[awaken]

Oh my goodness poor Priscilla. Her eyebrows and eyes as she talks. It’s hypnotic and disturbing. I wonder if anyone else in her world notices how bizarre her manner of speaking is, or just those of us outside the cult. 

[andromeda331]

Yes, Jill, you certainly never chase around a certain family dying to fit in. Or does that mean all Duggars except for Anna and her kids have told her their not coming to her Nurie's wedding. And she's going on social media trying to show she's totally okay with it. 

[Zella]

12 minutes ago, andromeda331 said:

Yes, Jill, you certainly never chase around a certain family dying to fit in. Or does that mean all Duggars except for Anna and her kids have told her their not coming to her Nurie's wedding. And she's going on social media trying to show she's totally okay with it. 

Maybe the threat of a Rodrigues wedding is the only thing that can get them to social distance. 🤣

[Oldernowiser]

1 hour ago, louannems said:

This is my gateway to Princilla!  Enjoy!

Holy shit. 

Literally.

[the-grey-lady]

On 4/2/2020 at 4:02 PM, ginger90 said:

2 pictures:

 

 

2 more:

 

 

Wow, "prayer is not preparation for the work, it is the work." Nathan is a silver-tongued devil. I bet he has to fight the women off with a stick.

[GeeGolly]

Does anyone else think that pic of JillR looks off? Not sure what it is about the photo, but something seems different to me.

I know it's wishful thinking, but I would love it if behind closed doors Prissy was totally in charge, swearing like a sailor, while David is in the kitchen making dinner and rubbing her pregnant feet every night.

[Portia]

Just curious...how many of you are taking grocery store selfies these days? I've stopped taking my phone in at all because that's just one more thing for me to have to sanitize afterward. And I'm busy the whole time trying to dodge knuckleheads like the Rods who are apparently swanning around like it's business as usual. 

[farmgal4]

19 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

New baby will be 5.

She dreads the pain of labor and delivery so much that she gets emotional about it.  Has it ever crossed her mind that she can have a hospital birth with an epidural for the pain?  What’s wrong with these women?  Are they forced to have an unmedicated home birth?

Edited April 27, 2020 by farmgal4
I’m referring to Priscilla BTW.

[AryasMum]

43 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

She dreads the pain of labor and delivery so much that she gets emotional about it.  Has it ever crossed her mind that she can have a hospital birth with an epidural for the pain?  What’s wrong with these women?  Are they forced to have an unmedicated home birth?

And David gives her about fifteen minutes before she has to pull herself together and make a video. 

[GeeGolly]

I never considered having a home birth and I know most hospitals are doing everything they can to keep covid out of the maternity wards, but Prissy should be happy that she's done this before and can do it now, during a time when entering a hospital for any reason is a bit scary.

[Tasya]

Priscilla easily looks mid 30s/early 40s. That's unbearably sad for some reason.

[Sew Sumi]

Seewalds failing to socially distance. With an infant! I don't know what else to say, but they're asking for trouble.

 

[Zella]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Seewalds failing to socially distance. With an infant! I don't know what else to say, but they're asking for trouble.

 

And if as the tag indicates, they are in Little Rock, that's pretty much the center of the biggest outbreak here in Arkansas, though NWA is adding more cases by the day. 😞 

[GeeGolly]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Seewalds failing to socially distance. With an infant! I don't know what else to say, but they're asking for trouble.

 

Isn't she a cop? Cops are getting hit with corona worse than medical providers in some states.

[Sew Sumi]

Jessica is the cop. I think Danielle does hair.

[Temperance]

46 minutes ago, Tasya said:

Priscilla easily looks mid 30s/early 40s. That's unbearably sad for some reason.

She is 33.  She'll be 34 in July.  If she looks mid-thirties, she is in her midthirties. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by Temperance
accuracy

[DangerousMinds]

53 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Seewalds failing to socially distance. With an infant! I don't know what else to say, but they're asking for trouble.

 

Idiots.

[Nysha]

Oh, look! The Seewald Family has "dear" friends, too. I have friends, even a couple I love like sisters, but I've never described them as "dear friends". Of course, I'd never put my dear friend's newborn at risk by breaking quarantine, either. 

[Tasya]

29 minutes ago, Temperance said:

She is 33.  She'll be 34 in July.  If she looks mid-thirties, she is in her midthirties. 

Oh I apologize then; I thought she was in her 20s based on her overall...presence.

[Temperance]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I never considered having a home birth and I know most hospitals are doing everything they can to keep covid out of the maternity wards, but Prissy should be happy that she's done this before and can do it now, during a time when entering a hospital for any reason is a bit scary.

I think she'd be better off having the baby in the hospital. As the Duggars and other fundies we follow prove, there are so many things that can go wrong during childbirth. And it would probably be safer (these days) to start in the maternity ward than to need to be transferred in an ambulance!

Unfortunately I think a lot of women will be tempted to try homebirth and that will lead them endangering themselves. Also just because the births have safe so far doesn't mean they will continue to be safe. A fundie I know in real life started hemorrhaging after 4th baby and this had never before with the previous three births. 

I hope Priscilla gets a say in where she gives birth. Of course they probably don't have benefits/health insurance with his job. I hope she has a safe and uneventful labor. 

[Albanyguy]

23 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Of course they probably don't have benefits/health insurance with his job.

I'll bet they do. David is the Director of IBLP's Advanced Training Institute and Family Conferences. I'm sure that the boys who run IBLP take very good care of themselves. David probably insists that Priscilla have her babies at home without drugs or non-Christian medical personnel, not because they can't afford it, but because it helps project the image of the perfect Gothardite family.

[ginger90]

 

[sixlets]

Hey Jill, if you "appreciate their values" so much, don't be taking photos of them.  It's inappropriate, rude, and downright disrespectful.  Twat waffle.

[GeeGolly]

29 minutes ago, sixlets said:

Hey Jill, if you "appreciate their values" so much, don't be taking photos of them.  It's inappropriate, rude, and downright disrespectful.  Twat waffle.

And maybe not use a wink emoji, if you really mean it.

[Zella]

I'm puzzled by her use of the word "refresh" in that context. Like, do they drink the Amish? Do the Amish spritz them with water on a hot day? So many questions. 

[lianau]

Or cake your face with  10 pounds of make up .

[wilsie]

The refreshing amish wink emoji is because Jill R is a pretentious humble braggart.  And it also helps that she's an idiot.

[FizzyPuff]

I bet Jill is secretly jealous of the Amish people. Maybe she should join them, then we’ll never have to hear about her or family again. 
I wonder what the Duggars think about the Amish? Maybe jealousy too? Or are they all going to hell unless they follow the great Bill Gothard 🤮

[Sew Sumi]

Behind the scenes at Embassy Live. I can't make heads or tails of what the kids were supposed to be drawing.

 

[GeeGolly]

Looking at the screen in the background makes me wonder if Jessa's mommy-and-daddy-are-great posts on IG were prep for whatever she talked about with JB and M.

I have no idea what those coloring pages are either.

[FizzyPuff]

On 4/27/2020 at 2:52 AM, louannems said:

This is my gateway to Princilla!  Enjoy!

I’ve seen that video before those two are insane. Michelle is medicated what’s Priscilla's excuse?  

[crazy8s]

8 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Behind the scenes at Embassy Live. I can't make heads or tails of what the kids were supposed to be drawing.

 

I believe the coloring page is titled "The lie of a greedy servant"  - I think it is from the story of Naaman visiting Elisha. Naaman is cured of leprosy, offers Elisha gifts, Elisha refuses because Jehovah cured Naaman. The Greedy servant, Gehazi follows Naaman as he leaves town, tells a lie saying Elisha wants the gifts. Upon returning home Elisha knows what he has done and he is told the leprosy Naaman had will come upon him and it does immediately.

 

Now there's a story I always wished was in my kids coloring books

Edited April 28, 2020 by crazy8s

[doodlebug]

11 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I believe the coloring page is titled "The lie of a greedy servant"  - I think it is from the story of Naaman visiting Elisha. Naaman is cured of leprosy, offers Elisha a gift, Elisha refuses because Jehovah cured Naaman. The Greedy servant Gehazi follows Naaman as he leaves town, tells a lie saying Elisha wants the gifts. Upon returning home Elisha knows what he has done and he is told the leprosy Naaman had will come upon him and it does immediately.

 

Now there's a story I always wished was in my kids coloring books

They couldn’t color Noah’s ark?  Or Jesus telling the apostles to let the children come to him? Or walking on water? 
 

They just love the scary God stories, don’t they?  ‘Behave yourselves, kids, or God will give you an ugly skin infection’

[AryasMum]

31 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

They couldn’t color Noah’s ark?  Or Jesus telling the apostles to let the children come to him? Or walking on water? 
 

They just love the scary God stories, don’t they?  ‘Behave yourselves, kids, or God will give you an ugly skin infection’

For bible beating Christians, it’s shocking how Old Testament they are. They totally miss what Jesus’s messages are. 

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

 

I have no idea what those coloring pages are either.

There's a title at the top of the page that says "The Life of a ^*(&^(*&^(*^  ??Peasant?? (maybe?)"

The picture is a guy walking up to a king-looking guy in a chariot who seems to have some soldiers or guards behind him. 

It smacks loudly of the Wisdom-Book "concepts" and artists to me. Looks to me as if it may be something they just reproduced from there, both the drawing and whatever obscure, convoluted "idea" they imagine they're getting at.....

Which would show exactly how much they've moved on from Gothard's nutso garbage (as the Bateses love to claim that they have).

He's their guru. And while the lawsuits mean they have to pretend they've abandoned him, he's still all they've got. (Plus, his shit worked for all these diehards, including by getting JB, M and Pop-and-Lolli's little girl J on the TeeVee.)

NOTE per Crazy8s' informative post above: So "life" is "lie" and "peasant" is "servant"! .... Definitely a Gothard-type concept....or more likely something they dug right out of the old man's books. That''s his kind of song-and-dance all the way. 

Edited April 28, 2020 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

I've never understood the fear God aspects of Christianity. Apparently the Duggars and others want their children to fear everything else as well.

As many of us are getting a taste of living with fear during this health crisis, I'm guessing many would agree it's not a pleasant or healthy way to live temporarily, nevermind long term. 

[Churchhoney]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I've never understood the fear God aspects of Christianity. Apparently the Duggars and others want their children to fear everything else as well.

As many of us are getting a taste of living with fear during this health crisis, I'm guessing many would agree it's not a pleasant or healthy way to live temporarily, nevermind long term. 

Well, Gothard's original shtick -- as a quite young evangelizer, cult builder, and genius-advisor to anxious Christians -- was aimed at giving parents his secrets for shutting down the supposedly terrifying wave of young-people-on-the-rampage that was occurring in the late 60s/early 70s. .... You know, those horrible hippies smoking dope and growing long (male) hair or wearing miniskirts and having sex and the protesters against the war and for civil rights, women's rights, gay rights.....All that awful stuff.

He was still kind of branding it "juvenile delinquency" and attributing to it sort of the vibe of The Fonz or the gangs in West Side Story (well, their vibe if you were the sort of person that those folks made really really nervous -- and apparently pretty many anxious suburbanites fell into this category).......And ranting about all these supposedly new-under-the-sun "revolts" of young people as if they were terribly dangerous. 

At an amazingly early stage (to me, anyway) of his life as a savior of nervous Christians, he was literally filling stadium after stadium full of people -- primarily parents, to whom he advertised --  who were horrified by these rampaging out-of-control, ungodly young people and who were apparently desperate to hear about ways to shut such activity down in their own families before it could even happen......And Gothard's answer to that -- though multipronged -- was mainly "isolate your kids and make 'em fearful of you and of burning in hell." 

People wanted to hear the message that "you can link yourself to the terrifying god who'll provide hideous payback for eternity to your rebellious teenagers" and paid Gothard well for giving this tip and inspiring them to use it. 

And I think that program is pretty similar to the way the "fear of God" has been used from time immemorial, really..... People in charge figure out they can link their own authority to God's authority and then play up the ability of God to torment you for eternity if you cross them, the people in charge.

In this case, Gothard (unfortunately, no dummy) taught middle-class Christian parents how to do this to control their teenage children because the thought of their teenage children going another way from the way the parents chose scared a lot of these people witless. And, of course, for millennia, kings and such have used this ploy to maintain their personal power over "their" people. Worldwide. 

It pretends to be about a god or gods. But when you look at what's really going on, it's about the people with the power convincing the people they intend to control that god's on the side of the leader's power and can use his infinite might to squash you eternally if you mess with the king and queen Gothardy parents like JB and M. .....That's just harnessing other people's fears of god/gods to fend off what you fear which is -- first and foremost for people who want to be in charge -- the specter of people you intend to control flouting your rule. 

This is why I always insist that people like JB who have been deeply attracted to Gothard of their own accord have control-freak personalities.  And that this -- not anything about Jesus or actual Jesus-related ideas -- is the true lure of Gothardism for them. They really really really want to control every detail in little kingdoms all their own --

But of course people are individuals with their own wills and very hard to control completely......So if you want this, you'll be quite strongly drawn to someone who promises you an apparently effective secret for doing it and you'll pay him for giving you that secret and, even better, props to help you carry out your control program. And the Gothard stuff provided all kinds of props and systems to help you maintain your control-freak fantasy world. 

Being drawn to Gothard never had a damn thing to do with a love of Christ or the gospel or anything related to that. That's all window dressing to hide the fact that he's just offering control tools for control freaks.

He's recycled a vile but common historical/political role of religion for use in individual homes by control-freak dads (and husbands as well, actually -- BG began his "work" in the early days of women's lib, we should remember......And in Gothard land, of course, adult women aren't supposed to hang with their own group of friends either, just like kids aren't...They're to stay glued to the husband because -- to say the quiet part out loud -- if they don't they might get ideas that are different from his!! Can't have that! "Under his protection" -- a three-syllable word for "thumb." Patriarchy for moderns, as we often say around here. }

Gothard knew how to find his audience and give them what they wanted. 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2020 by Churchhoney

[crazy8s]

if i am right on the story for the coloring page, they couldn't have went with naaman was miffed elisha's servant told him to dip in the river 7 times , but did it anyway and thus was obedient and cured from leprosy??

waiting for a coloring page titled "the wrongful pecan thief" haha

[Albanyguy]

14 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

waiting for a coloring page titled "the wrongful pecan thief" haha

Or "The Girl Who Mowed her Lawn in a Bikini".

[crazy8s]

4 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

Or "The Girl Who Mowed her Lawn in a Bikini".

so many possibilities for coloring pages for duggar sweet friends -

10 pounds of makeup at aldi's during a pandemic selfie coloring would need a lot of crayons

[questionfear]

3 hours ago, crazy8s said:

I believe the coloring page is titled "The lie of a greedy servant"  - I think it is from the story of Naaman visiting Elisha. Naaman is cured of leprosy, offers Elisha gifts, Elisha refuses because Jehovah cured Naaman. The Greedy servant, Gehazi follows Naaman as he leaves town, tells a lie saying Elisha wants the gifts. Upon returning home Elisha knows what he has done and he is told the leprosy Naaman had will come upon him and it does immediately.

 

Now there's a story I always wished was in my kids coloring books

Isn't this more of a lesson in epidemiology? Hang out too close to a leper, get leprosy?

[Churchhoney]

7 minutes ago, questionfear said:

Isn't this more of a lesson in epidemiology? Hang out too close to a leper, get leprosy?

Not if you don't believe in science, it isn't. 😈

[crazy8s]

41 minutes ago, questionfear said:

Isn't this more of a lesson in epidemiology? Hang out too close to a leper, get leprosy?

no bible scholar here, but i know the story but will have to re read the crazy

2 Kings Chapter 5

I don't believe the servant who lied was the same servant who gave Naaman Elisha's message to bathe in the river 7x.  He seems to be a servant who overheard the offering of gifts after Naaman was cured, came back to offer gifts, left town for home and servant chased him down, lied, wanted the gifts and was thus cursed by Elisha to immediate leprosy

Edited April 28, 2020 by crazy8s

[Natalie68]

On 4/26/2020 at 6:52 PM, louannems said:

This is my gateway to Princilla!  Enjoy!

Michelle looks like she is the next heroin addicted person highlighted on Intervention.  MeeMaw does Smack.  For those my age, yes it IS a take off on Dinky Hocker Shoots Smack.  

[crazy8s]

In other news - per Lawson Bates' instagram and twitter April 25, he finally got a pilot's license.

daddy will probably gift him a plane or helicopter to fly to disaster areas to cut down trees

 

Edited April 28, 2020 by crazy8s

[madpsych78]

21 hours ago, Tasya said:

Oh I apologize then; I thought she was in her 20s based on her overall...presence.

If I hadn't seen a picture of Priscilla I would have thought she was 10 based on voice alone.