Tabbygirl521 November 16, 2019 Share November 16, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 12:14 PM, Sokokei said: If Kody only sees Robyn now, then Christine and Janelle must be seething with resentment. With all the miles between them now, Kody would have more excuses not to see them, like, he's too tired to drive all that distance. If he ignores their calls, Christine and Janelle would have to drive all the way over to Robyn's house to see what's up, which is much more awkward and stalker-like than running next door in the cul-de-sac and demanding their turns. They probably got the message soon after the move. I don't think any of them are good enough actors to hide this kind of resentment and it will be readily apparent when the new season starts, if indeed he is not seeing them much anymore. Leave it to him, though, to manipulate them into thinking he's all into them again when filming starts, so they will feel happy, project that on camera, and won't sabotage the show's future. One thing I never understood is why Meri is not angry at Robin for stealing her #1 legal wife position. Meri's not a good actor, and she appears as if she's genuinely fond of Robyn and at least three of her kids. If Robyn is the stealth witch she appears to be, then why does Meri still like her? I think Meri does resent Robyn, but since she’s not “allowed” to be angry (various reasons but mainly not to annoy Kody), her anger has turned inward and become depression. I am not a psychiatrist but I play one on my phone. 15 Link to comment
Sofa Sloth November 22, 2019 Share November 22, 2019 (edited) Not sure where this belongs but as @AZChristian and @Kohola3 I think suggested in the Mariah thread, some of these thread titles could use an update. Here are my picks for the ones that need an update (just for fun but seriously can we make this happen?) :- Meri Brown - Dethroned catfished queen living the pyramid scheme dream Robyn Brown - She’s got the man by the balls and the certificate to prove it Janelle Brown- She’s only mildly smarter than your average Brown, with way worse gastrointestinal issues Mariah Brown - Faux activist extraordinarie, she’s woke, she’s queer and she doesn’t wash her hair Mykelti - Taco belle who ‘quite her job’ to be an ‘entrepreneur’ Maddie Brush - College dropout, teen bride, and proud mom of two questionably-named crotch goblins Join in! Edited November 22, 2019 by Sofa Sloth 15 4 Link to comment
DakotaJustice November 22, 2019 Share November 22, 2019 How about "Meri Brown, queen of resting bitch face"? 😂 5 Link to comment
Kohola3 November 22, 2019 Share November 22, 2019 @ Sloth Sofa, you are the queen of titles in my book. 2 5 Link to comment
xwordfanatik November 23, 2019 Share November 23, 2019 @Sofa Sloth, you should write comedy. Those headings are pure gold! 3 3 Link to comment
b2H December 4, 2019 Share December 4, 2019 Has there been any discussion anywhere about another season or has Kodyfinally used up what little goodwill he had left at TLC? Link to comment
DakotaJustice December 4, 2019 Share December 4, 2019 January. I think it was Janelle who said Jan. 4 Link to comment
Joan of Argh December 4, 2019 Share December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, b2H said: Has there been any discussion anywhere about another season or has Kodyfinally used up what little goodwill he had left at TLC? Janelle was asked when the new season starts on instagram and she said January 3 Link to comment
Gramto6 December 4, 2019 Share December 4, 2019 So I guess Sister Wives and Twitney will premier both early Jan? Looking forward to the snark to come! 2 4 Link to comment
Teafortwo December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 (edited) This just in! https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a30196358/sister-wives-season-14-kody-robyn-meri-brown-clip/ It has a clip of the upcoming season! Fingers crossed that we are going to get a more honest picture of the Browns this time around. Looks like TLC may have made a deal with them that to stay on air, they have to allow a more real picture of their lives to be shown. Edited December 11, 2019 by Teafortwo 2 7 Link to comment
Sandy W December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Teafortwo said: This just in! https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a30196358/sister-wives-season-14-kody-robyn-meri-brown-clip/ It has a clip of the upcoming season! Fingers crossed that we are going to get a more honest picture of the Browns this time around. Looks like TLC may have made a deal with them that to stay on air, they have to allow a more real picture of their lives to be shown. Finally, closer to reality, the cracks are showing but Robyn, with the fake crying that they were all SO happy in LV? Wasn't she the motivating factor for the move? Worth the price of admission for the snark value of Kody in a Speedo and those brave souls plunging into the muddy drainage swale. 4 6 Link to comment
Meowwww December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 Oh noooo another Maddie home birth episode! I can’t take it. 7 Link to comment
Sandy W December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Meowwww said: Oh noooo another Maddie home birth episode! I can’t take it. I am shocked that they even considered another home birth considering that they knew beforehand that there were irregularities in Evie's bone formation. Turns out, it was far more extensive than anticipated, they ran a calculated risk and lucked out. 6 Link to comment
Meowwww December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sandy W said: I am shocked that they even considered another home birth considering that they knew beforehand that there were irregularities in Evie's bone formation. Turns out, it was far more extensive than anticipated, they ran a calculated risk and lucked out. Watched it again. It looks like maybe a birthing suite somewhere, unless one of the homes has a big ugly room with a bed, giant tub, and kitchen cabinets. 3 3 Link to comment
DakotaJustice December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 So I interpreted Meri's statement as "I haven't had sex since 2014." And Kody ain't gonna put out. 3 4 Link to comment
deirdra December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 (edited) Did their quack therapist move to Flagstaff with them? Do they have to show the moving of the marital mattresses with every move? Edited December 11, 2019 by deirdra 5 2 Link to comment
laurakaye December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 What prompted these numbskulls to leap into a sinkhole full of muddy water, anyway? Marking their territory again? And SIGN ME UP for the Powerpoint presentation of Prairie Plyg Palace, y'all! Hahahahaha! 7 3 Link to comment
Sandy W December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, laurakaye said: What prompted these numbskulls to leap into a sinkhole full of muddy water, anyway? Marking their territory again? And SIGN ME UP for the Powerpoint presentation of Prairie Plyg Palace, y'all! Hahahahaha! Did you catch Kody proudly proclaiming something like "This is ours!!! We own this!!!" And then Christine worried that they would be "drownding" in debt. 6 1 Link to comment
Kohola3 December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 So, to recap... If the houses didn't get sold by spring, it would break them. Last one didn't sell until, what, this summer? A new baby Brushlette. Old news. The neighbors didn't want them around (cue troubled looks, inferences of persecution) and they have all already moved from the original neighborhoods except Christine. BTW, it's not the polygamy they probably objected to, it was the film crew vans cluttering up the neighborhoods. "I want the Plyg Palace". Not happening. Kootie hates Meri. Also old news. Robyn can still turn on the waterworks for the camera. What a talent. Nothing here to see folks, move on. All of the trumpeting about "major ups and downs" is pure tabloid BS. I thought Good Housekeeping was better than that. A question - when was that picture taken? Robyn is pretty clearly pregnant using the classic "look at me, I'm holding my belly" pose. 8 Link to comment
xwordfanatik December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 I can't wait to snark the dickens out of SW, with all of you! That didn't look like Numskull Nancy in the therapist's chair. So Kootie is pretending to be hell-bent on a giant plyg house, with all the trimmings? Good luck with that, you selfish prick. Robyn and her fake cryingk? Total crap. She's the reason they moved, and since she hates snow, I hope Flagstaff has a record bumper crop of snow. 1 7 Link to comment
Roslyn December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said: I can't wait to snark the dickens out of SW, with all of you! That didn't look like Numskull Nancy in the therapist's chair. So Kootie is pretending to be hell-bent on a giant plyg house, with all the trimmings? Good luck with that, you selfish prick. Robyn and her fake cryingk? Total crap. She's the reason they moved, and since she hates snow, I hope Flagstaff has a record bumper crop of snow. Yup, that was Nancy. Her hair is very different and she is older but the same pottery pots are on the table just over their shoulder...🙄 ...I like those pottery pots... 4 2 Link to comment
Sandy W December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Roslyn said: Yup, that was Nancy. Her hair is very different and she is older but the same pottery pots are on the table just over their shoulder...🙄 ...I like those pottery pots... Assuming Nancy is located in Salt Lake City, that's and 8 hour trip from Flagstaff - each way. Since Meri seems to be bemoaning her lack of nooky, I assume they would have taken separate rooms or maybe they crashed at Meri's BnB. When Meri and Janelle continue their never-ending counselling sessions, I wonder if they will force themselves to travel in the same car. Nancy has it made! I want to be her when I grow up. 5 Link to comment
Stefphill December 11, 2019 Share December 11, 2019 Finally they are calling a spade a spade. I was actually happy to see kody say mare was acting like a victim. FINALLY. She needs to hear it. 8 Link to comment
Kbo December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Teafortwo said: This just in! https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a30196358/sister-wives-season-14-kody-robyn-meri-brown-clip/ It has a clip of the upcoming season! Fingers crossed that we are going to get a more honest picture of the Browns this time around. Looks like TLC may have made a deal with them that to stay on air, they have to allow a more real picture of their lives to be shown. I’m embarrassed to admit how much I’m lookingk forward to this 😙. Robyn snapping at Meri? I’m so there. Can’t wait to snark with all of you awesome COLs. 13 Link to comment
deirdra December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 Mare does play the victim, but so does Kootie. He was the one pressuring them to move on short notice and somehow they are all to blame when things go bad. On this clip even Sobbyn was saying that they had a great situation on the LV cult-de-sac. 2 7 Link to comment
Rabbit Hutch December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 11 hours ago, deirdra said: Mare does play the victim, but so does Kootie. Agreed. Not only that, but he blew off trying to have another child with Meri, but stepped right up with the newbie wife and got her pregnant. That had to hurt Meri's heart. Granted, Meri kept him hanging on with the baby question far longer than i was comfortable watching, but there's no doubt in my mind that Kody, for all intent and purposes, abandoned poor Meri after he got what he wanted. On this level I do feel somewhat sorry for Meri, but then again she herself introduced Kody to the Mistress of Darkness. Karma and all of that, eh? 9 Link to comment
Adiba December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 (edited) I really didn't understand the "table scraps" comment from Kody without any context. He surely doesn't mean Robyn has been getting the short end of the stick, does he 😦? As for "victimhood"--Kody, Meri, and Robyn have all got the game down pat, imo. Kody is playing games, too. As if all Meri has to do is admit her part in the catfish fiasco for him to work things out with her--not gonna happen either way. As much as I would love to see brutal honesty from both of them, they would both have to say things about polygamy that would ruin their whole party line/image. Edited December 12, 2019 by Adiba Wrong word 13 Link to comment
Natalie68 December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Adiba said: I really didn't understand the "table scraps" comment from Kody without any context. He surely doesn't mean Robyn has been getting the short end of the stick, does he 😦? As for "victimhood"--Kody, Meri, and Robyn have all got the game down pat, imo. Kody is playing games, too. As if all Meri has to do is admit her part in the catfish fiasco for him to work things out with her--not gonna happen either way. As much as I would love to see brutal honesty from both of them, they would both have to say things about polygamy that would ruin their whole party line/image. I going to say something a bit mean but Robyn looks like the last 10 years marched over her face repeatedly. Not aging well at all. 11 7 Link to comment
laurakaye December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, Adiba said: Kody is playing games, too. As if all Meri has to do is admit her part in the catfish fiasco for him to work things out with her--not gonna happen either way. As much as I would love to see brutal honesty from both of them, they would both have to say things about polygamy that would ruin their whole party line/image. This is what I LOVE about this trainwreck of a show - all the underlying subtext, the plotting, the scheming, the master plans gone awry...all under the guise of one big happy family that shoulda been together from Day One! Sign me right on up! You're so right, Kody is also playing games, and now that he's teamed up with the Underworld Mistress of Dark Magic, he'd better hold on tight to his hair weave because it's gonna get bumpy. If Mere does go to him and say that she went looking because Kody's nights were so full of Victoria's Secret fashion shows, she doesn't have a banana to stand on because she's the one who signed up for this. Lest we not forget, Kody told Meri in season one that the thought of her being with another man "sickened him." The irony, it is thicker than the coating of peanut butter on Janelle's Fritos, but Meri knew the consequences and went for it anyway. So either she admits her role in the catfish fiasco and Kody freezes her out, or she doesn't and he freezes her out anyway. 17 Link to comment
DakotaJustice December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 I think they're ALL playing the Victim Card. And keeping in mind this is all done for TV and they're basing their reactions on going for ratings - I still interpreted the Table Scraps comment as saying Robyn is getting extra attention/time. 5 Link to comment
Adiba December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said: I think they're ALL playing the Victim Card. And keeping in mind this is all done for TV and they're basing their reactions on going for ratings - I still interpreted the Table Scraps comment as saying Robyn is getting extra attention/time. That would make the most sense, but without hearing the whole thing I wasn't sure--I guess I'll have to watch--although I really, really don't want to see more packing and moving in episodes or Maddie giving birth, either. 7 Link to comment
Teafortwo December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, laurakaye said: The irony, it is thicker than the coating of peanut butter on Janelle's Fritos You win the forum for today! Love this metaphor! 11 Link to comment
Juliegirlj December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 I still can’t figure out if Robyn is pregnant or in ill health...... Janelle’s girth appears to have eclipsed her height. Mary~ meet karma. 4 5 Link to comment
laurakaye December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said: I still can’t figure out if Robyn is pregnant or in ill health...... Janelle’s girth appears to have eclipsed her height. Mary~ meet karma. And now, could Christine - the least-loved wife of the Kodester, the one who committed the sin of eating nachos in front of His Highness, the one who had to pay for vacation/therapy out of her "grocery" money - potentially rise to the top of the Hierarchy of Wives as the one Kody Temporarily Loves Best? I mean - she's lost weight, she never went shopping for a banana unless it was for making a fruit salad, she has an actual personality and she doesn't use Kody's balls for target practice! Could the least of the wives finally become the favorite?? Edited December 12, 2019 by laurakaye 7 5 Link to comment
Natalie68 December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, laurakaye said: This is what I LOVE about this trainwreck of a show - all the underlying subtext, the plotting, the scheming, the master plans gone awry...all under the guise of one big happy family that shoulda been together from Day One! Sign me right on up! You're so right, Kody is also playing games, and now that he's teamed up with the Underworld Mistress of Dark Magic, he'd better hold on tight to his hair weave because it's gonna get bumpy. If Mere does go to him and say that she went looking because Kody's nights were so full of Victoria's Secret fashion shows, she doesn't have a banana to stand on because she's the one who signed up for this. Lest we not forget, Kody told Meri in season one that the thought of her being with another man "sickened him." The irony, it is thicker than the coating of peanut butter on Janelle's Fritos, but Meri knew the consequences and went for it anyway. So either she admits her role in the catfish fiasco and Kody freezes her out, or she doesn't and he freezes her out anyway. As much as I loathe Meri. I would like to see her stay until TLC is done with them. Then she can tell Kody to kiss her ample ass. Stomp away with her B&B and money made from horrible fashions and dashed dreams of other home retailers in her downline. Because I am petty this way, tell Kody that he is looking more bald and she if off to find someone who doesn't have a micro dick. Too much? 10 4 Link to comment
xwordfanatik December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, laurakaye said: And now, could Christine - the least-loved wife of the Kodester, the one who committed the sin of eating nachos in front of His Highness, the one who had to pay for vacation/therapy out of her "grocery" money - potentially rise to the top of the Hierarchy of Wives as the one Kody Temporarily Loves Best? I mean - she's lost weight, she never went shopping for a banana unless it was for making a fruit salad, she has an actual personality and she doesn't use Kody's balls for target practice! Could the least of the wives finally become the favorite?? I rilly rilly hope so. I think being Kootie's favorite would mean much more to Christine, than it ever meant to Meri and Robyn. Janelle's too apathetic to care, whether the reason is depression, or some other cause. Meri and Robyn are complete control freak types. I worked for people like that, and it sucked! Those two just love/loved the filling of power that it gave them, more than anything Kootie does/did. Just my take on it. 8 Link to comment
Stefphill December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, laurakaye said: And now, could Christine - the least-loved wife of the Kodester, the one who committed the sin of eating nachos in front of His Highness, the one who had to pay for vacation/therapy out of her "grocery" money - potentially rise to the top of the Hierarchy of Wives as the one Kody Temporarily Loves Best? I mean - she's lost weight, she never went shopping for a banana unless it was for making a fruit salad, she has an actual personality and she doesn't use Kody's balls for target practice! Could the least of the wives finally become the favorite?? This!!!! If if anyone gets the short end of the stick it’s Christine and Janelle. the nacho incident, also when Janelle ran that marathon, Kody was horrible to her. Didn’t even want to run with her. 7 Link to comment
riverblue22 December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 Kody, is that rilly the kind of bathing suit a good plyg Mormon man wears? On television? <can't unsee that~> 2 5 Link to comment
deirdra December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, riverblue22 said: Kody, is that rilly the kind of bathing suit a good plyg Mormon man wears? On television? <can't unsee that~> It is interesting that he follows the principal of polygamy, but not the principle of modesty. Do the AUBs normally wear Mormon garments (magic underwear) and clothes to hide them? If the idea of Meri being with another man "disgusts" Kody, how does he feel about the reality of Janelle & Robyn having been with their first husbands? 8 Link to comment
Kohola3 December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 (edited) And back to the table scraps comment - does Doofus even know what that means? It's normally used to call out someone who only gets leftovers, that is at the bottom of the totem pole. Everybody eats first then the loser gets what is left. Does he seriously think that we don't know the Princess of Darkness is the chosen one? She rules the roost and gets the best of the best (see: 7000 foot home) and the others get zip We see the pictures, we read the SM, we hear the stores. Come on, table scraps? My Aunt Fannie's ass. And am I the only one that thinks Madame la Weeper is pregnant in the picture? Edited December 13, 2019 by Kohola3 jpg 4 Link to comment
Stefphill December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 Kody jumping in the brown pond scum is the equivalent of him running the perimeter of the cul-de-sac, as he so eloquently put it ‘to put his stink on it!’ 2 8 Link to comment
riverblue22 December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Kohola3 said: And back to the table scraps comment - does Doofus even know what that means? It's normally used to call out someone who only gets leftovers, that is at the bottom of the totem pole. Everybody eats first then the loser gets what is left. Does he seriously think that we don't know the Princess of Darkness is the chosen one? She rules the roost and gets the best of the best (see: 7000 foot home) and the others get zip We see the pictures, we read the SM, we hear the stores. Come on, table scraps? My Aunt Fannie's ass. And am I the only one that thinks Madame la Weeper is pregnant in the picture? Definitely looks pregnant to me...probably wants provide 6 Brown kids to the group to keep up with Janelle and Christine. 3 Link to comment
Kohola3 December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, riverblue22 said: Definitely looks pregnant to me...probably wants provide 6 Brown kids to the group to keep up with Janelle and Christine. I have no idea when that picture was taken but Christine was definitely skinny and that didn't happen until Flagstaff. 2 Link to comment
deirdra December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 (edited) The only way "table scraps" could be considered a good thing is if the other wives get dog kibble. Meri looked too thin for Flagstaff, so I searched a bit - apparently the photo is from 2015, so Sobbyn was pregnant with Areola: https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/sister-wives-stars-celebrate-hard-rock-cafe-las-vegas-25th-anniv/ Edited December 13, 2019 by deirdra 3 7 Link to comment
xwordfanatik December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Kohola3 said: And back to the table scraps comment - does Doofus even know what that means? It's normally used to call out someone who only gets leftovers, that is at the bottom of the totem pole. Everybody eats first then the loser gets what is left. Does he seriously think that we don't know the Princess of Darkness is the chosen one? She rules the roost and gets the best of the best (see: 7000 foot home) and the others get zip We see the pictures, we read the SM, we hear the stores. Come on, table scraps? My Aunt Fannie's ass. And am I the only one that thinks Madame la Weeper is pregnant in the picture? I recognized this as an old picture. I'm not sure when I saw it, but it's probably been a couple of years ago. Princess of Darkness, love that! 3 Link to comment
xwordfanatik December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, deirdra said: The only way "table scraps" could be considered a good thing is if the other wives get dog kibble. Meri looked too thin for Flagstaff, so I searched a bit - apparently the photo is from 2015, so Sobbyn was pregnant with Areola: https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/sister-wives-stars-celebrate-hard-rock-cafe-las-vegas-25th-anniv/ Just saw your post. I didn't read all of them before responding, sorry! 2 Link to comment
Joan of Argh December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Kohola3 said: And back to the table scraps comment - does Doofus even know what that means? It's normally used to call out someone who only gets leftovers, that is at the bottom of the totem pole. Everybody eats first then the loser gets what is left. Does he seriously think that we don't know the Princess of Darkness is the chosen one? She rules the roost and gets the best of the best (see: 7000 foot home) and the others get zip We see the pictures, we read the SM, we hear the stores. Come on, table scraps? My Aunt Fannie's ass. And am I the only one that thinks Madame la Weeper is pregnant in the picture? I think he knows damn well that it's the opposite... The other 3 get the table scraps JMO but there's something rotten in Denmark.... I think Kootie and Robyn are trying to paint Robyn as the long suffering wife with a heart of gold who has put up with table scraps while the others got everything... They're also demonizing Meri together.... I think this was all set up to improve Robyn's public personal. They probably think we'll eat it up with a spoon. 🙄 4 10 Link to comment
laurakaye December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 12 hours ago, deirdra said: If the idea of Meri being with another man "disgusts" Kody, how does he feel about the reality of Janelle & Robyn having been with their first husbands? I think he LOVES it. Janelle dumped Kody's brother-in-law for him, so he gets to lord that over Adam's head when/if their paths ever cross (although I think Adam got the better end of that particular deal). As for Robyn - well, don't you know, he rescued Robyn's kids from the grips of that evil, cookie-stealing first husband of hers, so he could be her knight in shining armor and hair gel. So I think Kody's disgust is circumstantial - another man while his women are already "married" to him is disgusting. Kody taking those same women from another man? That's hot. 2 9 Link to comment
Mahamid Frauded Me December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 I watched the trailer, here we go again with Sobyn Robyn, yet not a tear falls. They were happier in Vegas is maybe true for the other sludges but she got what she wanted, she pushed for Flag and she got the man 90% of the time and the big house. She is full of it. I can't believe, well yes I can the stupid idiotic idea to all jump in the sewage dump called Plyg Pond. With the rain and snow, all the prairie dogs and other critters waste goes in there. They are lucky none of them wound up with some bacterial infection 12 Link to comment
Rabbit Hutch December 13, 2019 Share December 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Joan of Argh said: JMO but there's something rotten in Denmark.... I think Kootie and Robyn are trying to paint Robyn as the long suffering wife with a heart of gold who has put up with table scraps while the others got everything... They're also demonizing Meri together.... I think this was all set up to improve Robyn's public personal. They probably think we'll eat it up with a spoon. 🙄 They would be wrong... 12 Link to comment
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