S05.E16: Amster-Damn

[mbaywife123]

Me thinks someone (Bravo/production) told Kim she needed to make apologies to LisaR or get on the next flight home.

[Umbelina]

Lipsa just sat there and lied.  "I haven't talked about you!"  "I come from a good place!"

 

So Brandi and Kim are picking glass out of their skin and hair, and Lipsa is getting the sympathy, oh, and of course Kyle the sainted martyr?  Is this an alternate universe?  No one calls Lipsa on her appalling and dangerous behavior?  She's sickening.

 

Meanwhile, Kim is the one to go to HER room and apologize and remind her of the many times she asked Lipsa to stop, and STILL, not even a "I'm sorry I threw that glass at you, that was wrong." 

 

Screw that. 

[TexasGal]

Does Brandi really not see the difference between saying on camera that Kyle was smoking pot, which is, oh I dunno, ILLEGAL in California and anyone saying she drinks too much?

That said, they were all being ridiculous at the cafe. Eat the cake or don't. Smoke something or don't.

[charming]

I honestly can't believe Kim manages to make anyone questioning her sobriety as coming after her kids. She uses them as a shield while attacking others. She's the lowest of the low. Brandi is standing there listening to her rant on the street knowing full well that what she said about Kim is worse than anything Lisa R said!

 

Lisa lost her shit and realized she shouldn't have done it. I like how she handled Kim the next day. That was an ugly argument and Eileen seemed very shook up about it. Welcome to the Housewives! Kim never apologized to Eileen for all the nasty things she said about her. Typical bitter self centered Kim.

 

Holland looks gorgeous!

 

Nice seeing Yolanda's Mom looking healthy. I'm still puzzled with Yolanda acting like she can't control how often she sees her family. If you wanted to visit them every month you could.

 

Why is Brandi always getting angry over nothing. If everyone is laughing about whether or not to eat the cake, just let them.  She's just so offended by Kyle not wanting to appear high on camera? Oh the horror!!! Her pissy attitude is tired. Did she really think she was going to win this season? How delusional.

 

The two addicts on the show hate when people notice their behavior.

[motorcitymom65]

If I have this straight, Brandi didn't want to get high. Kyle didn't either (on camera). Kyle seemed to have no issue with Brandi saying no, but Brandi not only took great offense to Kyle saying no, she outed the fact that the last time she did it was with Kyle. Wow. Just fucking wow.

Have you considered that she might not be?  I can't think of another explanation for her behavior....can you?

Speaking only for myself, it is easier to believe she is not sober than to believe she is really such a horrible human being.

[LotusFlower]

Ok, I'll be obnoxious and say I told you so! There was no Harry Hamlin secret. Kim was just being her usual mean, deflecting self. Witch.

[The Mighty Peanut]

Have you considered that she might not be? I can't think of another explanation for her behavior....can you?

Yeah, I think she's batshit fucking crazy. I'm just not sure if alcohol exacerbates it or, in hindsight, tones it down...or if there's even a difference. Then again there's Lisa R throwing a glass and screaming at a table and I can't let that go anymore than when Porsha went bonkers. The slow-mo rise to a stand while dramatically intoning "don't go after my husband" seemed so hokey to me. Brandi got her soap scene.

This episode falls squarely under I CANT EVEN.

ETA: Caughtontape, I didn't mean that first sentence in a dismissive way, in case it came across as such. I genuinely think she's batshit fucking crazy.

Edited March 4, 2015 by The Mighty Peanut

[Higgins]

Brandi is spot on....they are all a bunch of hypocrites.

[Cranky One]

I love Lisa Rinna!

https://twitter.com/lisarinna/status/572953289894965248

[SwordQueen]

Brandi likes to pick just to watch the scab bleed.  She can't just leave Kyle alone, even when they aren't on opposing sides.

[zoeysmom]

If I have this straight, Brandi didn't want to get high. Kyle didn't either (on camera). Kyle seemed to have no issue with Brandi saying no, but Brandi not only took great offense to Kyle saying no, she outed the fact that the last time she did it was with Kyle. Wow. Just fucking wow.

Speaking only for myself, it is easier to believe she is not sober than to believe she is really such a horrible human being.

Brandi needs to know when and when not to share.  This sharing was done out of spite.  Much like Lisav announcing at the Reunion,  Kyle peed her pants in Ojai when they were having fun in the room doing gymnastics.  Those aren't good shares.  Brandi tries too hard.

[WireWrap]

It all boils down to something so simple. Kim is afraid of losing her kids if they even suspect she's not clean and sober, they'll abandon her. What's more important than protecting that?  Kim gets a pass from me, and I hope LisaR has learned a lesson. If she wants to help someone, speak to them directly and not beat around the bushes.

She needs to get sober and stay sober then, We all saw her high as a kite, under the influence of something 3 different time this season alone. Her kids will watch the show and see it for themselves even if they mute their TVs. This is just her way of justifying her aggression/attack on Lisa R and I am not buying it. She needs to apologize to Eileen, Yolanda and beg Kyle for forgiveness after her ugly comment to her IMO.

[hypnotoad]

 

It all boils down to something so simple. Kim is afraid of losing her kids if they even suspect she's not clean and sober, they'll abandon her.

 

Lisa R is not lying about Kim. Kim can parse her words all she likes. Notice how she mentions alcohol over and over. Hey Kim no one is talking about drinking.

 

 

Has anyone considered that she really might be?

 

Kim took a pill or pills subscribed to someone else. She admitted it on camera and acted like a mess on camera. No she isn't sober - not by any known definition.

 

I wish Brandi and Kim would go away. Far away.

 

Brandi sits there on camera and says Kyle smoked pot. That isn't her place to talk about. The idea that the others commenting on Brandi's behavior is the same as blabbing about drug use on camera is ridiculous. Brandi logic I guess. Also? If Kyle doesn't want to talk about drug use on camera or try the pot in the coffee place in Amsterdam - that's pretty much her choice.

 

So basically Kim just gets away with calling Eileen a beast and being dreadful to Kyle? Awesome.

 

OMG did you see the look on Yo's face and Lisa V's when Kim was blabbing about how her friends would talk to her if they thought she wasn't sober? Absolutely hilarious. No one at that table and I mean no one believes Kim is sober. The looks said it all.

 

Kim/Brandi = disgusting.  I'd be perfectly happy watching a show with the Lisa's, Kyle and Eileen. Add Yo's mom and the cast would be perfect.

[charming]

Oh, poor Kim had glass in her pants. Brandi had glass in her throat, hair and over every inch of her body. Did they run out to the nearest clinic to get their pain patches?

[Persnickety1]

It was so obviously an intervention, Kim ( or even a blind woman) could have spotted that.  Bullshit on the "apologies" they were once again making KIM their storyline.  Kim tried in every way possible to get them to stop talking about her struggles with addiction.   Nothing about doing that AGAIN, on camera, in a public place was intended to help Kim.  You really care?  You really want to help?  Do it privately. 

 

So she turned the tables and made the lead instigator, Lipsa, the subject of the conversation.  Apparently Lipsa is hiding a secret about her home life, and Lipsa is all about getting "secrets" out.  I hope that it's just that Harry is bi, or gay, or a cheater, and not that he has cancer or AIDS. 

 

Lipsa was the one out of control, and violent.  Shockingly so.

 

Kim gave them her lack of sobriety as a storyline as soon as she made the decision to take an illicit drug and show up on camera under the influence.

 

No one "made" Kim and her lack of sobriety their storyline.

 

Kim handed all of them a storyline on a silver platter.  

Edited March 4, 2015 by Persnickety1

[JennyMominFL]

So many wrongs here.  

Kim was wrong wrong wrong, in just about every move.

Lisa was totally wrong to go for the throat and break a glass. I'm sorry, but as much as I think Kim was wrong Lisa was way out of line

Brandy ,She was reasonably OK until the end with her yelling in the streets

The other 3 ladies were fine. I feel for Kyle 

 

[AnnA]

Brandi is spot on....they are all a bunch of hypocrites.

 

I agree with you.  Brandi wasn't wrong about that.  It's not something they'll ever face or admit so they brush it off as another Brandism.  

[qtpi75]

Last but not least, my thoughts and prayers to ub40fan, RIP hon

Did a poster pass away?

Edited March 4, 2015 by qtpi75

[SnarkKitty]

RAGE.

OMG I thought my eyeballs would roll right the fuck out of my head when Kim said "I forgive her." FUCK THAT NOISE. And not once could that bitch apologize, as she sat there so fucking smugly right while Lisa apologized multiple times. What kind of Nene/Phaedra/Porsha fuckery is this?? I wish Lisa would have stuck to her "I'm never speaking to your sister again but I guess she wanted to smooth things for the trip's sake. She's better than me though 'cause I might have taken the opportunity to finish that throat choke. I'm with Eileen, oh HELL no we aren't sweeping this under the rug.

 

She's so insistent that Lisa is "lying on her," and fucking her over with her kids by being suspicious. Are you effin' kidding me? It's your crackhead behavior that's going to let them know you're relapsing, taking Monty's medicine is going to let them know you're relapsing, it's YouTube videos of you scrabbling over pills and being denied entry onto planes because you've been overserved that's going to let them know you're relapsing. But BY ALL MEANS, blame Lisar, which sane people can see while possibly annoying and intrusive, isn't what's going to make people think you're still a fucking low-life addict. It's because you're a fucking LOW-LIFE ADDICT.    

 

Fuck you and your "Go with your new friend, Kyle." WTF do you call your friend Brandi?

 

FUCK YOU, KIM. I *almost* said something along the lines of Kingsley, overdose, and feasting on her ass. But I'm better than that.

 

And just for good measure: FUCK YOU, BRANDI. Can you just never, you know, be fucking decent?? Just because Kyle smoked, doesn't mean she wants the world - or her kids - to know. She didn't bring it up on camera, why should you? I smoked cigarettes at one point. My kids never knew, until they were adults. It wasn't illegal, but it certainly wasn't a behavior I wanted them to emulate. So I didn't do that shit in front of them, just like Kyle didn't smoke weed in front of hers. Get it?

 

Point that hypocrite finger at yourself. You had a fucking MELTDOWN because you claimed Kyle called you a bully and ohmahgod! My kids will hear that!! But you had no qualms whatsoever about putting Kyle on blast for doing some shit that really could cause problems at home. The difference, you dumb bitch is that they're talking about behaviors you (and Kim) exhibit ON SCREEN. You two doppleganging bitch-asses talk about stuff that took place behind closed doors. You're not using truth to deal with what's happening, you're using so-called "truth" AS A WEAPON. You're both mean drunks, but equally mean sobers when you're jonesing. And you were BOTH jonesing, make no mistake. Nothing about either of your intentions are good. There's no place to even argue they are - which at least one can do with the others. You're both full of spite and bile, no wonder you have the lives you do - envying everyone else their happiness (and sobriety and ability to be in fucking public without ruining everything, constantly.) I wish she'd gotten hit with a windmill while there was a chance.
 
God, I spent too much of my energy on this shit tonight! But it's infuriating. At least it wasn't needless anger, it IS useful research for the London-Paris-Amsterdam excursion I'm in the midst of planning for this summer. Space cakes, plus bicyles on cobblestone streets sound like must-haves. :)

[Mozelle]

I agree with you.  Brandi wasn't wrong about that.  It's not something they'll ever face or admit so they brush it off as another Brandism.

So Kyle not wanting to try the pot pastry on camera makes her a hypocrite? If she objected to having sex on camera with Mauricio, would that be hypocritical as well?

[BlackMamba]

Kyle is better than me, her sister keeps her crying on continual loop.

Oh hell, to THE NO!

Brandi sitting there, silently enjoying the train wreck.

 

It's time to go to family court so Kyle can turn over all rights to Kathy.

 

I will be laughing at this forever........

 

 

LMFAO!

 

Does Brandi really not see the difference between saying on camera that Kyle was smoking pot, which is, oh I dunno, ILLEGAL in California and anyone saying she drinks too much?

That said, they were all being ridiculous at the cafe. Eat the cake or don't. Smoke something or don't.

 

She was sure hinting that Kyle and her might have smoked a time or two.  But for real Brandi!  Brandi is trying to make Kyle into a hypocrite because of Kim.  Or point her the direction of being a "bad parent."  I don't see how Brandi hasn't escaped a smack to the mouth.

 

If I have this straight, Brandi didn't want to get high. Kyle didn't either (on camera). Kyle seemed to have no issue with Brandi saying no, but Brandi not only took great offense to Kyle saying no, she outed the fact that the last time she did it was with Kyle. Wow. Just fucking wow.

It sure seemed that way!  Brandi was trying to say Kyle maybe isn't no better than Kim possibly.  Ok smoking grass vs doing alcohol, pain pills, and patches!  Granted it might be "illegal" but if Kyle smokes weed every once in a while it sure doesn't do her in like Kim and her pill poppin/patch/alcohol now does it, Brandi.

[Straycat80]

I loved all the shots of Amsterdam. I'd love to go there.

I didn't know they put pot in a cake and then you eat. That was interesting.

What a trainwreck these house ho's are! I was surprised nobody made a huge deal about Lisa R. Smashing the glass on the table. Somebody could have gotten a glass shard in the eye. But, whatever, nobody did.

[Found A Peanut]

Brandi was the beneficiary of all of the other women's discretion in opting to keep talk of her impromptu Tampax commercial off the show for the sake of Brandi's children, but it won't keep her from putting their business in the street whenever a bitter mood strikes her. Because Truth, Justice, and it's just Brandi's way.

[charmed1]

Eileen shut Kim down in that restaurant without her voice going above a whisper. I guess that's what happens when you're "married" to Victor Newman for so long. It was reminiscent of my mom bending down and threatening to "embarrass me in front of all these people in this restaurant" when I was misbehaving.

Speaking of moms, it was hilarious how Yolanda was going on about how none of them had ever tried weed and then her mom corrected her. Gigi does favor Yolanda's mother. And her brother seemed so happy to be hanging with all the ladies. And Brandi.

[cooksdelight]

Dear Holland:

I am so very sorry that you were subjected to a bunch of crazyass women from America, breaking glass and causing a scene in your lovely city of Amsterdamn. Lord only knows what the hotel was like once they left. We really are not all like that, I promise you. 99.9% of us will come to visit and be very pleasant and grateful to enjoy your countryside.

Sincerely,

A sane, non-cussing, non-fit-throwing American

[missyb]

but Brandi not only took great offense to Kyle saying no, she outed the fact that the last time she did it was with Kyle. Wow. Just fucking wow.

 

And this is why Kyle fears for Kim's friendship with Brandi. Kim is so vulnerable and will share anything and everything to a "sympathetic ear:. Until she is not.

 

I also think that Kim may well be sober and her problems are much deeper. The way she lets Brandi influence her every thought and opinion is scary.

Edited March 4, 2015 by missyb

[AnnA]

So Kyle not wanting to try the pot pastry on camera makes her a hypocrite? If she objected to having sex on camera with Mauricio, would that be hypocritical as well?

 

I didn't mean to imply that it was because of the pot pastry but it is because of almost everything else.  

[Otherkate]

Amsterdam is so gorgeous, now I desperately need to go there. Really, really beautiful. Take me next time, Yolanda! I know how to eat the cake and behave like an adult!

 

 

I honestly can't believe Kim manages to make anyone questioning her sobriety as coming after her kids. She uses them as a shield while attacking others. 

 

Why is Brandi always getting angry over nothing. If everyone is laughing about whether or not to eat the cake, just let them.  She's just so offended by Kyle not wanting to appear high on camera? Oh the horror!!! Her pissy attitude is tired. Did she really think she was going to win this season? How delusional.

 

It seemed to me like Kim didn't bring up her kids as her issue until Yolanda put it out there as a reason why what Kim was doing to Lisar was so offensive. Kim seemed to seize on it at that point as something she too should be touting. Not that I don't believe that she loves her kids, of course she does. Just saying that she didn't seem to go around saying it until after Yo brought it up about Lisar.

 

Re: Brandi, there seems to be a real psychological issue at play with her. She has major anger and resentment issues and I hope she's in therapy. She can be relatively okay sometimes but it never lasts. She needs help.

[SwordQueen]

Damn, all of the beautiful scenery and secondhand cake has mellowed my rage.  I need to channel some Kim to get this out because I'm tired of her Veruca Salt act. 

 

 

Hate to break it to you, Kim, but you’re an addict and you’re not a special one.  You’re an ordinary one.  Many people’s lives have been hurt by substance abuse.  Take Yo for example.  Her father died because of a drunk driver and her underage daughter drove drunk.  Then there’s Lisa R.  Her own sister died from substance abuse and both of her brothers-in-law, as well. And even Lisa V.’s son had a substance abuse problem that she briefly reflected on, at the table.   

 

But no, no empathy, no compassion, no forgiveness.

 

It’s all about HER PAIN, HER NIGHTS, HER REASONS. 

 

Who cares whom she’s brought pain to with her misplaced anger. 
Who cares whose nights she’s ruined by calling them while drunk and high.
Who cares how many times she’s been granted forgiveness for her delusional behavior.

 

But no, it’s all about Kim.  Gimme, gimme, gimme, says Kimmie.

 

I’m so done with giving a shit about her.  No more bottles of beer on the wall

[motorcitymom65]

RAGE.

OMG I thought my eyeballs would roll right the fuck out of my head when Kim said "I forgive her." FUCK THAT NOISE. And not once could that bitch apologize, as she sat there so fucking smugly right while Lisa apologized multiple times. What kind of Nene/Phaedra/Porsha fuckery is this?? I wish Lisa would have stuck to her "I'm never speaking to your sister again but I guess she wanted to smooth things for the trip's sake. She's better than me though 'cause I might have taken the opportunity to finish that throat choke. I'm with Eileen, oh HELL no we aren't sweeping this under the rug.

 

She's so insistent that Lisa is "lying on her," and fucking her over with her kids by being suspicious. Are you effin' kidding me? It's your crackhead behavior that's going to let them know you're relapsing, taking Monty's medicine is going to let them know you're relapsing, it's YouTube videos of you scrabbling over pills and being denied entry onto planes because you've been overserved that's going to let them know you're relapsing. But BY ALL MEANS, blame Lisar, which sane people can see while possibly annoying and intrusive, isn't what's going to make people think you're still a fucking low-life addict. It's because you're a fucking LOW-LIFE ADDICT.    

 

Fuck you and your "Go with your new friend, Kyle." WTF do you call your friend Brandi?

 

FUCK YOU, KIM. I *almost* said something along the lines of Kingsley, overdose, and feasting on her ass. But I'm better than that.

 

And just for good measure: FUCK YOU, BRANDI. Can you just never, you know, be fucking decent?? Just because Kyle smoked, doesn't mean she wants the world - or her kids - to know. She didn't bring it up on camera, why should you? I smoked cigarettes at one point. My kids never knew, until they were adults. It wasn't illegal, but it certainly wasn't a behavior I wanted them to emulate. So I didn't do that shit in front of them, just like Kyle didn't smoke weed in front of hers. Get it, thot?

 

Point that hypocrite finger at yourself. You had a fucking MELTDOWN because you claimed Kyle called you a bully and ohmahgod! My kids will hear that!! But you had no qualms whatsoever about putting Kyle on blast for doing some shit that really could cause problems at home. The difference, you dumb bitch is that they're talking about behaviors you (and Kim) exhibit ON SCREEN. You two doppleganging bitch-asses talk about stuff that took place behind closed doors. You're not using truth to deal with what's happening, you're using so-called "truth" AS A WEAPON. You're both mean drunks, but equally mean sobers when you're jonesing. And you were BOTH jonesing, make no mistake. Nothing about either of your intentions are good. There's no place to even argue they are - which at least one can do with the others. You're both full of spite and bile, no wonder you have the lives you do - envying everyone else their happiness (and sobriety and ability to be in fucking public without ruining everything, constantly.) I wish she'd gotten hit with a windmill while there was a chance.

 

God, I spent too much of my energy on this shit tonight! But it's infuriating. At least it wasn't needless anger, it IS useful research for the London-Paris-Amsterdam excursion I'm in the midst of planning for this summer. Space cakes, plus bicyles on cobblestone streets sound like must-haves. :)

I just want to say that I think I love you. Brilliant all the way around.

[Watermelon]

No, Rinna did.  She looked over at Kim and asked, "are you okay?"  And that was NOT an innocent question.  She was really saying have you taken anything.  

 

Kim said, "drop it, no more talking about my sobriety"  Rinna did not stop and off Kim went.  

I thought Lisa asked Kim that because Kim was giving her a death stare, not because she thought Kim was high.

[njbchlover]

Does Brandi really not see the difference between saying on camera that Kyle was smoking pot, which is, oh I dunno, ILLEGAL in California and anyone saying she drinks too much?

That said, they were all being ridiculous at the cafe. Eat the cake or don't. Smoke something or don't.

 

I think that Yolanda's brother was looking to party with a bunch of beautiful American women, and they all shattered his dream....poor guy - can you imagine what he had to say to his friends and co-workers the next day?  "Damn American uptight women--they could have used some space cake and a few tokes...they proceeded to scream and yell at each other in the middle of the road...that wouldn't have happened if they had just eaten some "MELLOW-mar cookies".....LOL!!!  :-)

[Umbelina]

Kyle acting all surprised that Kim was not going to the pot place with them.  Really Kyle?  Really?  Was the wine tasting not enough for you?

Edited March 4, 2015 by Umbelina

[LotusFlower]

If I have this straight, Brandi didn't want to get high. Kyle didn't either (on camera). Kyle seemed to have no issue with Brandi saying no, but Brandi not only took great offense to Kyle saying no, she outed the fact that the last time she did it was with Kyle. Wow. Just fucking wow.

Brandi is a parent - how does she not understand that sometimes a parent does something (like smoke pot), but doesn't want their kids to know? Stupid question - this is Brandi we're talking about. To be technical about it - sure it can be considered hipocritical, but come on. Kyle realizes the cameras are turned on, and she doesn't want her kids to see her light up when she tries hard to give them the opposite message.

From what I've read here, it was Kyle who tried to do the decent and kind thing by shielding Brandi from Tampon-gate. Look how Brandi repays her.

[njbchlover]

Me thinks someone (Bravo/production) told Kim she needed to make apologies to LisaR or get on the next flight home.

 

I agree - unfortunately, I don't really recall Kim ACTUALLY apologizing - did she actually say the words "I'm sorry"???  

[Persnickety1]

It all boils down to something so simple. Kim is afraid of losing her kids if they even suspect she's not clean and sober, they'll abandon her. What's more important than protecting that?  Kim gets a pass from me, and I hope LisaR has learned a lesson. If she wants to help someone, speak to them directly and not beat around the bushes.

 

Pretty sure they'll figure that out on their own (if they haven't already) when they watch this shitstorm.

 

And her druggie behavior is all over the internet.  Rumors of her epic relapse this season were out months ago.  

 

If she really cared about her kids abandoning her, her stank ass would go into rehab and get serious about getting sober.  

Edited March 4, 2015 by Persnickety1

[Otherkate]

Yeah, I felt sorry for Yo's brother. He seemed so nice and everything got so insane. Poor guy. If there was ever a table of women who could use a good toke or two, it's that table of women.  That said, I bet Eileen would be really fun to get stoned with and Kyle would be a PIA while stoned because she's so uptight. And I actually like her.

[Umbelina]

A woman throws a glass at me?  She better damn well be the one to try to apologize to me, not the other way around.  I feel like we are in some alternate universe where physical violence is better than words.  What?

[imjagain]

Ok, I'll be obnoxious and say I told you so! There was no Harry Hamlin secret. Kim was just being her usual mean, deflecting self. Witch.

Yes! I also posted in god knows what thread now. If Kim knew a secret about HH she would have spilled it right then and there.

[cooksdelight]

I thought Lisa asked Kim that because Kim was giving her a death stare, not because she thought Kim was high.

That's what I thought, too. Kim was staring daggers at Lisa R., I would have asked the same question.

[bagger]

This is unbearable. Kim goes to LisaR's room for an apology? And then pats herself on the back for being big enough to accept the apology? And LisaR goes along with this?

Kim Richards truly is a master manipulator.

Sometimes you're just better off rolling with the crazy and Kim Richards sure is that, crazy!

[AnnA]

I thought Lisa asked Kim that because Kim was giving her a death stare, not because she thought Kim was high.

 

That truly was a death stare.......straight out of a horror movie.  

 

Why even look at her?   I wouldn't have and sure as hell wouldn't have spoken to her.

[hypnotoad]

 

She's so insistent that Lisa is "lying on her," and fucking her over with her kids by being suspicious. Are you effin' kidding me? It's your crackhead behavior that's going to let them know you're relapsing, taking Monty's medicine is going to let them know you're relapsing, it's YouTube videos of you scrabbling over pills and being denied entry onto planes because you've been overserved that's going to let them know you're relapsing. But BY ALL MEANS, blame Lisar, which sane people can see while possibly annoying and intrusive, isn't what's going to make people think you're still a fucking low-life addict. It's because you're a fucking LOW-LIFE ADDICT.

 

THIS! I mean seriously. Kim is standing up for herself? About what? Lisa R isn't telling some terrible lie about Kim. What has she said that isn't true? She didn't tell the other ladies that Kim was snorting coke in the limo on poker night. All she has said is that she is concerned about Kim's behavior. She didn't say that only behind Kim's back - she said it to her face. Furthermore, if Kim didn't show up on camera messed up no one would talk about it! She's at fault for this entire mess.

 

Plus, Lisa R didn't start the conversation at the restaurant - Yolanda did! For gosh sakes how did that get turned into Lisa R and Eileen brought up her precious sobriety?

 

Kim forgives Lisa R? That's hilarious. Again for what?

 

Oddly enough, I doubt Kim will say anything to Eileen about calling her a beast and so forth. She acted like a complete idiot at Eileen's house and just walked away from it and now she thinks she's going to ignore this too. I sure hope Eileen goes after her.

 

Brandi bringing up the homewrecker thing again in the preview? Brandi, since you have no idea what was going on in either marriage you should probably keep your big fat ignorant mouth shut.

 

Lisa V, Eileen and Kyle still look pretty put out by Kim. I hope it stays that way.

[Leroux]

Kim gave them her lack of sobriety as a storyline as soon as she made the decision to take an illicit drug and show up on camera under the influence.

 

No one "made" Kim and her lack of sobriety their storyline.

 

Kim handed all of them a storyline on a silver platter.

Add to that that Kim's best friend helped quite a bit too

Brandi talked about the phone calls, talked about the suspicious patches, talk about Kim falling off the wagon, talked about how Kim is so fragile, how Kim has suciidal tendencies, how Kim's situation is "worse than you could ever imagine"

Brandi right along with Kim are the ones who have made a whole story out of this sobriety because that is the only thing that is really happening in their lives,do they have fabulous house? Throw amazing parties? Shop in amazing places?

Nope, all they have contributed to this season is their horrible behavior when they are intoxicated, the funny thing is that they act like animals and then are offended when the others comment on their behavior, how about you act your age, don't use substances that make you aggressive and try to be civilized.

Brandi hates that she is not part of the cool group, last season she was part of the all powerful dream team and she harassed joyce with no mercy and got away with it, this season she is the one out and she is resentful and irritated, so her intentions IMO are very clear, she probably thinks" if these bitches are not going to play with me then I am going to ruin it for them" so she fuels the fires of Kim's craziness and sits back to enjoy the show.

Guess what Brandi? How does it feel that you are now saddled with your BFFS Kim?

Now you got what you wanted, the rift between kyle and Kim has never been greater, you can have Kim all to yourself, good luck with that, LMAO

Couldn't have happened to a better person. Brandi deserves Kim and Kim deserves Brandi. Karma at its finest.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

@ charming...

In regard to Yolanda's infrequent visits to her family.

My guess, King David.

[AnnA]

Brandi is a parent - how does she not understand that sometimes a parent does something (like smoke pot), but doesn't want their kids to know? Stupid question - this is Brandi we're talking about. To be technical about it - sure it can be considered hipocritical, but come on. Kyle realizes the cameras are turned on, and she doesn't want her kids to see her light up when she tries hard to give them the opposite message.

From what I've read here, it was Kyle who tried to do the decent and kind thing by shielding Brandi from Tampon-gate. Look how Brandi repays her.

 

 

I agree with this 100%.   Kyle did the right thing for her children, herself and Mauricio's business.

[Persnickety1]

RAGE.

OMG I thought my eyeballs would roll right the fuck out of my head when Kim said "I forgive her." FUCK THAT NOISE. And not once could that bitch apologize, as she sat there so fucking smugly right while Lisa apologized multiple times. What kind of Nene/Phaedra/Porsha fuckery is this?? I wish Lisa would have stuck to her "I'm never speaking to your sister again but I guess she wanted to smooth things for the trip's sake. She's better than me though 'cause I might have taken the opportunity to finish that throat choke. I'm with Eileen, oh HELL no we aren't sweeping this under the rug.

 

She's so insistent that Lisa is "lying on her," and fucking her over with her kids by being suspicious. Are you effin' kidding me? It's your crackhead behavior that's going to let them know you're relapsing, taking Monty's medicine is going to let them know you're relapsing, it's YouTube videos of you scrabbling over pills and being denied entry onto planes because you've been overserved that's going to let them know you're relapsing. But BY ALL MEANS, blame Lisar, which sane people can see while possibly annoying and intrusive, isn't what's going to make people think you're still a fucking low-life addict. It's because you're a fucking LOW-LIFE ADDICT.    

 

Fuck you and your "Go with your new friend, Kyle." WTF do you call your friend Brandi?

 

FUCK YOU, KIM. I *almost* said something along the lines of Kingsley, overdose, and feasting on her ass. But I'm better than that.

 

And just for good measure: FUCK YOU, BRANDI. Can you just never, you know, be fucking decent?? Just because Kyle smoked, doesn't mean she wants the world - or her kids - to know. She didn't bring it up on camera, why should you? I smoked cigarettes at one point. My kids never knew, until they were adults. It wasn't illegal, but it certainly wasn't a behavior I wanted them to emulate. So I didn't do that shit in front of them, just like Kyle didn't smoke weed in front of hers. Get it?

 

Point that hypocrite finger at yourself. You had a fucking MELTDOWN because you claimed Kyle called you a bully and ohmahgod! My kids will hear that!! But you had no qualms whatsoever about putting Kyle on blast for doing some shit that really could cause problems at home. The difference, you dumb bitch is that they're talking about behaviors you (and Kim) exhibit ON SCREEN. You two doppleganging bitch-asses talk about stuff that took place behind closed doors. You're not using truth to deal with what's happening, you're using so-called "truth" AS A WEAPON. You're both mean drunks, but equally mean sobers when you're jonesing. And you were BOTH jonesing, make no mistake. Nothing about either of your intentions are good. There's no place to even argue they are - which at least one can do with the others. You're both full of spite and bile, no wonder you have the lives you do - envying everyone else their happiness (and sobriety and ability to be in fucking public without ruining everything, constantly.) I wish she'd gotten hit with a windmill while there was a chance.

 

God, I spent too much of my energy on this shit tonight! But it's infuriating. At least it wasn't needless anger, it IS useful research for the London-Paris-Amsterdam excursion I'm in the midst of planning for this summer. Space cakes, plus bicyles on cobblestone streets sound like must-haves. :)

 

I desperately wish there were a gigantic heart icon I could put here.

 

Instead, I'll just express my usual...

 

I love you.  

Edited March 4, 2015 by Persnickety1

[rehoboth]

The funniest part of the show tonight for me was the fact that they captioned Kyle's 'cry-talking'.  Maybe it's another language that only she and Kim understand.

[Morbs]

It's so insane to me that we live in a country where binge drinking is so socially acceptable that it's almost expected at all football games and concerts but then a group of adult woman fret about eating a weed cake because they are parents.

 

I didn't think the dinner was an invention.  I thought Kim could have deflected Lisa easily with just accepting her apology and moved things on.  No doubt Kim has had enough interventions to be wary of any organized dinner parties at this point though; Also I think she drinks before any filming.  Her bizarre excuses, reasoning, and outrage make me think things are much much worse than her sloppy behavior initially made me think.  I think Kim really needs strong medication, and it seems like she has a severe anxiety disorder just the way she sometimes talks, I'm not sure how easy it is to get benzos in CA, it's impossible for me in OH, but I'm sure she finds a way and thinks theres nothing wrong with her abusing those.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Morbs

[parisprincess]

Kim is the one who brought up her sobriety with Lisar on the plane.

 

No, Rinna did.  She looked over at Kim and asked, "are you okay?"  And that was NOT an innocent question.  She was really saying have you taken anything.

 

If someone had ignored me and then sat staring daggers at me in the plane, making it obvious they had a problem with me, I'd be asking them if they were okay too.  On second thought, I'd probably ask "What the fuck is your problem?"  No pussyfooting around for me!