S37.E12: We’re in Miami Baby!

[chitowngirl]

Finale. Teams race to Miami where, after nine countries, 18 cities and more than 29,000 miles, one team is crowned the winners and receive the $1 million prize.
 

Airdate May 15, 2025 on CBS.

[anniebird]

Good season, good finish.

[dancingdreamer]

Omg, I had goosebumps  when Jack and Carson  won. I've been  cheering  for them for a long time. They are such good friends,  and they are smart. I was so happy  they won, so happy. Han and Holden  did a good job as well, coming in 2nd, well done.
Wtg Ana, I enjoyed  half of your team.

[rr2911]

Disappointed that the nerds won.  I was rooting for Han/Holden.

Great that Jonathan and Ana didn't win!!

[TheRabbi]

Sad that Alyssa and Josiah were eliminated. Brutal loss to get eliminated after that train equalizer. Jon/Ana just flew through that mosaic puzzle.

As for the final leg, the leg design was fine and I really like the scramble as a finale twist, but the editors have to do a better job of trying to disguise the results and use less confessionals/voiceovers, as it was painfully obvious Jack and Carson were winning it about 20 minutes in. 

Great job by Ana on the water challenge. Brutal way to deal with a phobia to repeatedly have to fall into it. 

Season was fine overall. I thought the first 5 episodes or so were pretty dull, which caused some cranky posts from me, but once they got to Dubai and then Europe there was a pretty good run of episodes. Looking forward to season 39. 38....not so much.

[chaifan]

Copying over my comment from the live thread:

While I thought the "twist" schtick was sort of stupid, and way overhyped, I really enjoyed this season.  If CBS wants to make some money, they'd release a version of this season with every scene of Jonathan being an ass to Ana replaced by a basket of puppies.  

I liked the scramble challenges, but I thought the rest of the episode was a little blah.  Just having to find the domino park and do nothing there?  Boring.  The final puzzle?  Seemed pretty easy, to be honest.  I miss the really challenging final tasks.  

I really don't know if I'll be watching TAR 38.  I have hated almost every single BB team that has appeared on TAR.  The only exception is Derek & Claire.  I really hate the whole reality whore career path these people take, and I hate that TAR has sold out to this idea.  The thing I really like about TAR is that, for the most part, the teams are normal people.  Yeah, we've had a few other reality show crossovers, and that horrible "influencer" season.  But TAR is a show that you don't have to be a reality whore to get on.  

 

[TheRabbi]

10 minutes ago, chaifan said:

 

I really don't know if I'll be watching TAR 38.  I have hated almost every single BB team that has appeared on TAR.  The only exception is Derek & Claire.  I really hate the whole reality whore career path these people take, and I hate that TAR has sold out to this idea.  The thing I really like about TAR is that, for the most part, the teams are normal people.  Yeah, we've had a few other reality show crossovers, and that horrible "influencer" season.  But TAR is a show that you don't have to be a reality whore to get on.  

 

I'm sure I will end up watching it because I've been watching this show almost my entire life at this point, but man am I dreading it. Look at teams like Alyssa and Josiah, Han and Holden, and Nick and Mike who were all overjoyed to be there and you can tell the passion they have for the show. Meanwhile, 38's cast is dependent on who is willing to accept and negotiate their appearance fees. It really is sickening. I was really hoping the CBS schedule reveal would have 39 scheduled for the spring so we could get back to the good teams, but we're going to be waiting a while for that.

Edited May 16 by TheRabbi

[tvfanatic13]

I seriously hope for Ana’s sake that Jonathan gets some intense therapy if they are going to stay together. It was uncomfortable to watch. 
Congrats to Jack and Carson. Was really hoping for Josiah and Alyssa. 

[Skooma]

Congrats, Team Green.  You were my favorites from episode 1.  Great attitude and comeback when you were last.  Wonderful enthusiasm and appreciation to race around the world.  Best winners in years!

May your future games be many though this real life quest may top all of them.  And you truly deserved it.

GAME ON!

[katalizt]

As a South Floridian... Why was Holden trying to go to the Palmetto expressway? That's on the complete opposite side of the county from where they were. And I don't envy the teams having to deal with Miami traffic while trying to race. Good thing they didn't actually need to take the Palmetto or they'd still be there now stuck in traffic.

Holden's Spanish: "We are in a mail for a million pains". 

I wanted Alyssa and Josiah in the finale but I'm happy with Jack and Carson winning. Great season!

[Red Bridey]

I am not watching another season of reality show fame whores on my favorite competition. Nope, not going to do it. I have never seen one episode of Big Brother and I'm not starting now. Sometimes I watch Survivor, but it's not a must see show for me. So at least I'll have some free time in the fall (?).

[iMonrey]

I spent the entire episode terrified that Jonathan and Ana might win. It wasn't until about the last 25 minutes I started to relax.

Still, I feel like the show knew the audience was going to be really mad that Ana and Jonathan beat Alyssa and Josiah which is why they didn't reveal it at the end of the previous episode. They really leaned hard into juxtaposing the supportive relationship of Alyssa and Josiah against the toxicity of Jonathan towards Ana. Hence the "to be continued" in the penultimate leg so insure we tuned into this one.

I'm happy for Jack and Carson. They were a strong team all along and had a great attitude. I never really warmed up to them for some reason but I'm just so grateful Jonathan and Ana didn't win.

I think the show did an outstanding job designing challenges this season, for the most part. A lot of them were so grueling it reminded me of old school, earlier seasons. The finale challenges were killer. Those three teams woke up the next day with really sore arms. 

Where it sort of fell short was in casting. They really try for diversity in terms of ages and relationships but clearly there are teams that have no business being there. Out of fourteen teams there were realistically maybe six or seven that had any real chance of winning.

Which is why I'm on the fence about this Big Brother thing. There are doubtless more capable teams from that lot than what we usually see, and I'll know most of them I think. I'm afraid I'll be rooting against more of them than rooting for them but I'll have to wait and see. 

I'd rather see a "best of" with previous Amazing Race teams given how far both Big Brother and Survivor have fallen in terms of quality. I don't think I've watched an entire season of Big Brother in years, and "new era" Survivor is terrible. 

[Irlandesa]

I liked Alyssa and Josiah and Jack and Carson. I would have been happy with either of them winning.

I liked Han and Holden earlier on but I have to admit the overuse of "race brain" did me in.  I didn't hate them, though.  Others just became more likable to me.

I liked Ana but I felt sorry for her.  And I think they've already done therapy?  Ooof.

[Artsda]

So happy for Jack and Carson, deserving fun winners. 

Ana said they did well working together? This built his tolerance?  They needed an abuse trigger warning, that wasn't good. 

[Lantern7]

Well, Jonathan & Ana finished in third. Our long national nightmare is over. I really hope Jonathan can improve himself as a person in the future. I don't know if I want them back, though. Then again, Colin & Christie came back and they were cool to watch. Jonathan didn't curse out an ox, though. That would've been funny, maybe.

Carson & Jack run a great race throughout the season, at least in terms of maintaining stability. Not a swipe at Han & Holden . . . I just figure that D&D handled frustration better. They also got lucky that those two brothers whose names I've forgotten threw in the towel on that Detour. I'm glad they got the win. I never got into LARP or Dungeons & Dragons, but I still consider them to be "my people."

Tasks were okay. Scramble format was a disappointment because the teams hit the tasks in the same order. The flyboard looked scary, and the degree of difficulty looked to be insane. Naturally, Ana took that Roadblock and she sucked at it. I want to believe that Jonathan would have been sympathetic if he had saw her try her best. I really want to believe that.

Next season: Big Brother people! Ugh. I mean, I've had little trouble watching Da'vonne and Kaycee on The Challenge, I’m sure "The Cookout" alliance are nice people, and yeah, Derek & Claire were decent to watch. But still . . . Big Brother. A show that doesn't need or deserve any additional promotion. You cannot tell me differently.

Here is Jack Walworth's website. I guess he's done as a producer for the show. I had to look him up because I thought he had passed away.

Edited May 17 by Lantern7

[mertensia]

I did love that all three teams ended up paddling around the island.

I have a poor sense of balance so cannot imagine having to stand on that for a minute.

I'm happy that Carson and Jack won.

[ApprenticeFan]

The finale was delayed filming by two days due to severe weather happened in Miami/South Florida area at the same time.

Credit: RealityTV_Fan/Instagram

[Demian]

3 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Well, Jonathan & Ana finished in third. Our long national nightmare is over.

Our long national nightmare would've been over if they'd finished fourth in Portugal.  God, he's hateful.  I felt so sorry for the entirely appealing dork couple who ended up behind him.

Wow.  It suddenly occurs to me the top four were like this:

Winners:  Fantasy Dorks.

Second Place:  Sibling Dorks.

Third Place:  Absolute Asshole and His Long-Suffering Wife.

Fourth Place:  Married Dorks.

Too bad The Dorks didn't take all three top spots, and That Asshole managed to slip through.

Sorry, missed this:

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Still, I feel like the show knew the audience was going to be really mad that Ana and Jonathan beat Alyssa and Josiah which is why they didn't reveal it at the end of the previous episode. They really leaned hard into juxtaposing the supportive relationship of Alyssa and Josiah against the toxicity of Jonathan towards Ana.

100% completely agree.

Edited May 16 by Demian

[Fake Jan Brady]

6 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Still, I feel like the show knew the audience was going to be really mad that Ana and Jonathan beat Alyssa and Josiah which is why they didn't reveal it at the end of the previous episode. They really leaned hard into juxtaposing the supportive relationship of Alyssa and Josiah against the toxicity of Jonathan towards Ana. Hence the "to be continued" in the penultimate leg so insure we tuned into this one.

I would've preferred 24 hours to get over it rather than being annoyed for the first twenty minutes of the finale.

[Haleth]

I forgot this was on until 9:20 so I missed Josiah & Alyssa’s expulsion. First thing I saw when I tuned in was Jonathan and Ana on a jet ski and my heart dropped. Blech.
Overall a good season but not a whole lot of drama with the finale once Jack finished the um, water jet thing, whatever it’s called. Good for the boys for winning. They were usually good racers and were truly delighted by the experience. Happy for them.

So the next race is reality show “stars” or just BB? I’ve never watched BB (or any reality show for that matter other than TAR and survivor) so I won’t be familiar with any of the racers. 

[Pebbles]

So glad that Carson and Jack won!  I thought they were a fun team from the very beginning and kept a great attitude the whole way through.

I also loved Pops and Jeff and Alyssa and Josiah.  And appreciated how the editors kept showing the comparison between Jonathan's absolutely abusive behavior towards Ana and Josiah and Alyssa's support of each other.  I hope Ana sees that and gets herself and her kids out of that situation.  I also don't buy for a minute that ASD is the cause.   He's just an abusive asshole who may or may not have ASD as well.

I liked Han quite a bit, but Holden kept projecting his feelings onto her and being whiny about it - dude, she was calm pretty much every time you bleated "calm down".  I know he's young, so I'll give him a pass.

Other than the abusive jerk though, it was a good season!  Not looking forward to the BB teams - but I know I'll watch anyway.

[tv echo]

I am happy with Carson and Jack winning. They ran a good race, looked like they were having fun along the way, and didn't browbeat their teammate.

[proserpina65]

Despite the presence of the heinous Jonathan, that was a pretty good final and a great ending.  That water lift thingy task was a beast, and good for Ana for being able to finish it despite her fear.  But no way in hell did they work together well when things weren't going their way.  Jonathan was fine when things were working out for them, but she basically had to carry him when they weren't.

I was rooting for Carson & Jack so I was very happy with their win.  They, and Alyssa & Josiah as well, approached this race the way it should be, with joy and excitement at the incredible opportunity they've been given, even when they were struggling.  I want to see more contestants like them, not shitty reality show whores.

[lilysmom]

When I watch this AMAZING show, I try to give the racers a pass, sometimes, for their behavior. My husband and I traveled a lot and even though we did cruises or tours (in which every detail was planned for us) we had some arguments every time! We never had to scramble to find a train station or an obscure location while trying to stay ahead of other racers for a $million, or build a violin, yet still we managed to find something to quarrel about. I guess what I am getting at is that frayed nerves can cause behavior that we may not be proud of. 

In Jonathan and Ana's situation, however, the most disturbing part of all of it to me is that Ana justifies his behavior every time. It makes me sad to think that she thinks this is normal husband/wife interaction and accepts his cruelty as the norm. Never once did she react to anything he said. That makes me think that she has learned to never question what he says for fear of increased aggression. Get out, Ana!

[iMonrey]

10 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Tasks were okay. Scramble format was a disappointment because the teams hit the tasks in the same order. The flyboard looked scary, and the degree of difficulty looked to be insane.

At least the flyboard (or whatever it's called) offered the opportunity for placement shake-ups. So did all the self-driving. Too often, the finales have been badly planned where whoever starts in first place stays there. I know Carson and Jack pretty much stayed in first place the whole leg, but that was due to their skill and a little luck rather than poor leg design.

[Browncoat]

Jonathan and Ana left the first task in first, but wandered around a bit before arriving at the second.  And if Ana hadn't taken Soar, we would likely have had a very different outcome last night.

[Colorado David]

Poor Han, i thought she would have done better at the soaring given she is a surfer. It did look like fun tho. I'd redesign those boards tho so you had like handlebars to help you stabilize your upright.

I forget, what are the payouts for places 2 and 3?

[Lovecat]

That was a most satisfying outcome.  I am married to a D&D nerd, so I was delighted that two of his people won.  

That flyboard thing looked tough!  I think the secret was all in fighting your natural instinct to balance, though.  The guys kept yelling "life jacket! life jacket! life jacket!" presumably to keep the riders from flailing their arms around (also possibly to prevent them from strangling themselves when they inevitably ate it).  It looked like once everyone (including Ana) calmed down and focused on keeping their legs strong and their arms still, everything worked out.  More like yoga than surfing!

[proserpina65]

44 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

Jonathan and Ana left the first task in first, but wandered around a bit before arriving at the second.  And if Ana hadn't taken Soar, we would likely have had a very different outcome last night.

Maybe.  Assuming Jonathan could do it better.  Probably faster than her, but his performance of the wake board task in Dubai wasn't particularly good, so he might not have been enough faster to gain them enough time.

 

[Guigoaoshi]

Really good season and a great ending. I really liked D&D from the beginning but see them at the last couple legs, specially the last one, made me know how much I was rooting for them (I was worried with the three water based challenges to be a big advantage for the brothers, glad It wasnt the case). Their only weak moment was at that leg where they went hours in the wrong direction. The fact that they kept It going and proved that was a fluke by be the best ones on navegation at the upcoming legs, with a good set of skills and determination on different challenges, add their personality, their friendship, working so well together, they are great winners. Han and Holden had their moments (specially Holden) but as brothers that didnt spend as much time together, they really improved and got themselves together. I was expecting Alyssa and Josiah to be in the final 3/ probably winning based on how much edit showed them, but guess sometimes it was a way to show the difference between them and Jonathan and Ana. Nothing much more to say about them other that I hope he can learn from this. Surprised he handled himself better at the last leg (its like someone went to him and told: Man, you are at finale, we have to show alot of you and most of It is not good... Try to chill and respect your wife for this finish)

Edited May 16 by Guigoaoshi

[MerBearHou]

13 minutes ago, Guigoaoshi said:

Han and Holden had their moments (specially Holden) but as brothers that didnt spend as much time together, they really improved and got themselves together.

Han is Holden's sister!  

I would be willing to bet that someone spoke to Jonathan when he was waiting for Ana to finish the hoverboard and they were in last place -- reminding him he's on TV and it would be wise for him to speak to her positively.  It was a completely different vibe from him than we have seen numerous times throughout the race.

[Colorado David]

Jonathan is competing with Jonny Fairplay as most despicable contestant ever.

[Netfoot]

I didn't want Jonathan even in the final leg, so I am happy they got 3rd if they had to be in at the finish at all.

I was all for Han & Holden winning and I regret that they didn't.

I didn't want the green team in the final either. But they raced better than the others, they got into the final, and they won fair and square. 

13 hours ago, TheRabbi said:

I'm sure I will end up watching it because I've been watching this show almost my entire life at this point, but man am I dreading it.

Ditto. Never missed yet, so I doubt I'll miss now.  The racers these days are mostly insufferable children who give new meaning to the term "entitled." But if I can tolerate racers who want to win so they can finance their career of playing Dungeons & Dragons, I guess I can tolerate anything.

13 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I'd rather see a "best of" with previous Amazing Race teams given how far both Big Brother and Survivor have fallen in terms of quality.

I know what you mean and if only! But in reality, TAR has been running for 24+ years.  Colin & Christie are in their mid 40's with kids.  They raced again in S31 but it would be increasingly difficult to get a field of "best of" teams together today, unless you limited yourself to recent races.

10 hours ago, mertensia said:

I did love that all three teams ended up paddling around the island.

It was silly. There was clear signs that ther was wind for at least part of the route, so why did they not use the sail?

 

 

[aghst]

14 hours ago, TheRabbi said:

Sad that Alyssa and Josiah were eliminated. Brutal loss to get eliminated after that train equalizer. Jon/Ana just flew through that mosaic puzzle.

As for the final leg, the leg design was fine and I really like the scramble as a finale twist, but the editors have to do a better job of trying to disguise the results and use less confessionals/voiceovers, as it was painfully obvious Jack and Carson were winning it about 20 minutes in. 

Great job by Ana on the water challenge. Brutal way to deal with a phobia to repeatedly have to fall into it. 

Season was fine overall. I thought the first 5 episodes or so were pretty dull, which caused some cranky posts from me, but once they got to Dubai and then Europe there was a pretty good run of episodes. Looking forward to season 39. 38....not so much.

Yeah Alyssa and Josiah got to the tile puzzle just a bit before Ana and Jon.

It sucks for them that the train was delayed but Jon and Ana were bickering through the whole train ride.

Yet when it came to the puzzle, they blew past Alyssa and Josiah.  You can't tell from the editing but if they finished the puzzle just a couple of minutes afterwards, they would probably outrun them to the mat.  But they were probably more than a few minutes behind.

That bridge is cool.  I visited there a couple of years ago and the lower section that the racers crossed was closed mostly.  You could walk through a lot of construction barriers and there was no car traffic allowed.

The upper span is insane for the views.  And you can climb up to it from the Ribiera, which is the part of the riverfront they were in doing the puzzles.

That area is full of porto wines tasting places.  The north side of the river is Porto and the south side, which is where the pit stop was, is Vila de Gaia.  

[Ilovepie]

I am happy with the outcome, other than the fact that I was really hoping that dropping that tile would slow down J&A enough to let Alyssa & Josiah to catch up and pass them. Oh well.

I really like the scramble idea, but it's not as effective when they all do the same order. Watching Ana do that water challenge was brutal. I can't imagine how hard that was for her, but she did it! She really deserved a better partner. I hope Jonathan can learn from this when he sees what he sounds like. And God help them, I hope they don't look at social media because it's not going to feel great knowing everyone was rooting for your failure.

Very happy for Carson and Jack - they were so thrilled to be there and were positive the whole time.

As far as Big Brother Season, I've never watched that show, so it's not very different for me aside from these people being "extra" and hammy because they are "tv personalities". 

Things I don't ever want to see again are the Intersection and the U-turn vote. I do like having at least one non-elimination leg, and I think Valet Roulette would work better earlier in the season where there's more chance that one or more teams won't be able to drive a stick. I like the Express Pass, although it seems it's never used to advantage. I would like more things like the head to head jousting which produced a true stagger start, especially since the air travel is not a factor anymore and is really an equalizer these days.

Overall, a decent season challenge and location-wise, but J&A were terrible and everyone else was pretty forgettable.

[anniebird]

5 hours ago, lilysmom said:

 

In Jonathan and Ana's situation, however, the most disturbing part of all of it to me is that Ana justifies his behavior every time. It makes me sad to think that she thinks this is normal husband/wife interaction and accepts his cruelty as the norm. Never once did she react to anything he said. That makes me think that she has learned to never question what he says for fear of increased aggression. Get out, Ana!

I made a similar comment in the live thread discussion - she is so very careful when she talks to him that it makes me think she has found out there are consequences for not being careful.

[eel2178]

15 hours ago, Artsda said:

 Ana said they did well working together? This built his tolerance?  They needed an abuse trigger warning, that wasn't good. 

The level of denial from both of them is utterably unbelievable.

If they think they're soul mates and work well together, what would have to happen in order for them to really see the truth?

[eclectcmoi]

2 hours ago, anniebird said:

I made a similar comment in the live thread discussion - she is so very careful when she talks to him that it makes me think she has found out there are consequences for not being careful.

When dealing with an abuser, you learn to walk on eggshells so as not to trigger them.  Whatever happens, it's always your fault and you never know what will push buttons, like her stepping in front of him on the last episode. It's a terribly sad and dangerous way to live. 

[iMonrey]

6 hours ago, Lovecat said:

That flyboard thing looked tough!  I think the secret was all in fighting your natural instinct to balance, though.  The guys kept yelling "life jacket! life jacket! life jacket!" presumably to keep the riders from flailing their arms around (also possibly to prevent them from strangling themselves when they inevitably ate it).

I was confused by this. Han's coach kept yelling "life jacket" at her. I was under the impression they were required to hold onto their life jacket vests in order to complete the task. But Jack did not. He had his arms out wide on either side balancing himself and wasn't reprimanded so I guess it was just a suggestion. But given the choice I'd think Jack's method would have been more helpful.

5 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

I would be willing to bet that someone spoke to Jonathan when he was waiting for Ana to finish the hoverboard and they were in last place -- reminding him he's on TV and it would be wise for him to speak to her positively.  It was a completely different vibe from him than we have seen numerous times throughout the race.

Someone in the live chat thread suggested production might have taken him aside between legs and warned him how badly he was coming across. I know there was a 2-day delay in starting the final leg once they arrived in Miami because of the weather, so perhaps then. In any event, this episode proved that Jonathan can, in fact, control his behavior. He just chooses not to, most of the time.

5 hours ago, Netfoot said:

It was silly. There was clear signs that ther was wind for at least part of the route, so why did they not use the sail?

Carson and Jack (I think?) did try it once they were up close to the student sailors. They observed them tipping to one side in order to catch the wind. However, I just don't think there was enough wind to propel them quickly enough around the buoys. Hence the paddling. 

[Samwise979]

Aww I’m so happy they won! I was rooting for the couple that came in forth but once they were eliminated, this duo was my #1. I love how no matter what was thrown at them, even that episode they thought for sure they’d be last because they got so lost, they always treated each other with such kindness and respect and they always found the humour in the situation and stayed positive. I think one of them said they’ve only had 1 fight in their entire friendship and I believe it. Good for them!

[Netfoot]

The Amazing Race Around The World From One Borrowed Cellphone To The Next.

[Silver-hyren]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

I was confused by this. Han's coach kept yelling "life jacket" at her. I was under the impression they were required to hold onto their life jacket vests in order to complete the task. But Jack did not. He had his arms out wide on either side balancing himself and wasn't reprimanded so I guess it was just a suggestion. But given the choice I'd think Jack's method would have been more helpful.

I remember during one of the tutorials the instructor said to grab the life jacket when you feel like you're going to fall, so he might have been reminding her to do that when she was wobbling.  Or it could have been a trick to catch your balance again. 

[aghst]

1 hour ago, Samwise979 said:

Aww I’m so happy they won! I was rooting for the couple that came in forth but once they were eliminated, this duo was my #1. I love how no matter what was thrown at them, even that episode they thought for sure they’d be last because they got so lost, they always treated each other with such kindness and respect and they always found the humour in the situation and stayed positive. I think one of them said they’ve only had 1 fight in their entire friendship and I believe it. Good for them!

 

Josiah and Alyssa were likable.

Maybe they would be considered for an All Stars season.

But usually they invite back fan favorites, who tend to have big personalities.  Not sure they are that.

They both have demanding jobs so they may not be able to take weeks or a couple of months off again.

BTW, it's seems like it's been a long time since they've had an All Stars season.

Before the pandemic at least so around 8, maybe even 10 years?

[Hanahope]

Happy to see a couple of nerds winning.  They were very versatile.  I loved their enthusiasm.

[chaifan]

8 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

As far as Big Brother Season, I've never watched that show, so it's not very different for me aside from these people being "extra" and hammy because they are "tv personalities". 

The difference to me is racers who are there for the publicity & money* vs.  racers who are there because the truly love TAR.  We've had casted racers before, and in general, I think they are drudgery to watch.  No joy, unless they're winning. 

* I do not know this for sure, but just based on other things I've read I'm pretty sure the BB teams are being paid for their appearance on TAR.  

3 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Someone in the live chat thread suggested production might have taken him aside between legs and warned him how badly he was coming across. I know there was a 2-day delay in starting the final leg once they arrived in Miami because of the weather, so perhaps then.

I doubt production said anything to Jonathan.  But, a two day rest probably helped him reset.

Has TAR ever delayed a leg, let alone a final leg, due to weather?  I always assumed they had contingency plans for that type of thing.  Like if a hurricane was bearing down on Miami, then they had a B site already chosen and ready to go.  

Between the business class flight and a 2 day delay, these were the most rested TAR finalists ever!

 

 

[Seelouis]

1 hour ago, aghst said:

 

Josiah and Alyssa were likable.

Maybe they would be considered for an All Stars season.

But usually they invite back fan favorites, who tend to have big personalities.  Not sure they are that.

They both have demanding jobs so they may not be able to take weeks or a couple of months off again.

 

I have seen some news stories that Alyssa is pregnant, so unlikely they would come back any time soon 

[Auntie Anxiety]

7 hours ago, anniebird said:

she is so very careful when she talks to him that it makes me think she has found out there are consequences for not being careful

She knows from experience that you don’t poke the bear.

[ApprenticeFan]

On 5/17/2025 at 10:18 AM, chaifan said:

The difference to me is racers who are there for the publicity & money* vs.  racers who are there because the truly love TAR.  We've had casted racers before, and in general, I think they are drudgery to watch.  No joy, unless they're winning. 

* I do not know this for sure, but just based on other things I've read I'm pretty sure the BB teams are being paid for their appearance on TAR.  

I doubt production said anything to Jonathan.  But, a two day rest probably helped him reset.

Has TAR ever delayed a leg, let alone a final leg, due to weather?  I always assumed they had contingency plans for that type of thing.  Like if a hurricane was bearing down on Miami, then they had a B site already chosen and ready to go.  

Between the business class flight and a 2 day delay, these were the most rested TAR finalists ever!

 

 

Yes. Prior to this episode, it had only once before during the Pit Stop period of the second Tunisia leg in the inaugural season back in 2001 due to a sandstorm.

Edited May 18 by ApprenticeFan

[30 Helens]

The boys had been my favorites ever since that leg when they were so far behind they were sure it was hopeless, yet they continued to laugh and enjoy themselves rather than give in to panic or despair. THIS is how the race should be run. The ability to remain positive and joyful, no matter what, is kind of a superpower and I believe it’s why they won. It’s certainly why they deserved to win.

The less said about Jonathan the better, although he hope he gets some intensive therapy. That is one sad, screwed up man. I also hope Ana takes some inspiration from standing up to her fear of water (you go, girl!) and starts standing up for herself in other ways, as well. She also needs some therapy, and I hope she gets it.

Overall, I enjoyed this season and am looking forward to the next. From what I’ve read about the cast, it will be a mix of mostly likeable people and a few you want to poke in the eyes— just like every TAR season. And while each team has a BB cast member, their teammate is a family member or loved one, so there will still be that family dynamic. I hope people who are pre-judging will give it a shot. I think it will be fun.

[Netfoot]

8 hours ago, chaifan said:

Has TAR ever delayed a leg, let alone a final leg, due to weather?  I always assumed they had contingency plans for that type of thing.

I seem to recall in S5 a weather warning forced the race to delay 24 hours in Madagascar? Zanzibar? Charla & Snarla who had accumulated a very large lead at that point claimed that the delay was unnecessary because no bad weather ever materialized. They theorized that the delay was really to facilitate production issues and to close up the huge gap between them and the remaining teams.

Or maybe I am remembering it all wrong.....